Did Germany Invent Vietnamese Coffee?

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • The fascinating and unexpected history behind Vietnamese coffee, a cultural icon that was saved by an unlikely hero: Communist East Germany. We dive deep into this untold story that brought together two nations and transformed the coffee industry forever.
    We go back in time as we explore the roots of Vietnamese coffee during French colonial rule, the devastating impact of the Vietnam War, and the surprising role East Germany played in revitalizing Vietnam's coffee industry. You'll learn how a shared love for coffee and political alliances led to one of the most ambitious foreign collaborations in history.
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  • @mynameisandong
    @mynameisandong  Рік тому +267

    Who‘s pumped for some food history? It‘s been a while 🥳🤩

    • @alysoffoxdale
      @alysoffoxdale Рік тому +1

      Hey, you forgot to pin your comment...meanwhile, most of the comments are already jumping with joy to see food history here again without even scrolling down enough to see yours! :)

    • @ThingsWeSaidToday
      @ThingsWeSaidToday Рік тому

      Me!!! I am! Wonderful video, I always love your food history forays!

    • @fabiancbarrio
      @fabiancbarrio Рік тому +2

      Your channel is a GEM

    • @pseenazloy6409
      @pseenazloy6409 Рік тому +1

      Не пропадай, we need you.

    • @MohammedGamal87
      @MohammedGamal87 Рік тому +1

      Meeeeeee

  • @phidesudesu
    @phidesudesu Рік тому +386

    Never thought a guy from Germany would be teaching me about my own ancestors LMAO

    • @reggievonramstein
      @reggievonramstein Рік тому +100

      Wait it gets better, a Russian guy from Germany, teaching a Vietnamese about his country. And I’m a French guy commenting…😅

    • @phidesudesu
      @phidesudesu Рік тому +19

      @@reggievonramstein we love diversity indeed

    • @Booklover138
      @Booklover138 Рік тому +54

      But it's a white-washed version of history lmao. He specifically skirted over the French part of coffee introduction into Vietnam. He said that coffee were grown by small time farmers for themselves and to make extra cash, but the reality is that all the coffee plantation at the time were owned by French colonists and produced for the European market. Vietnamese traditionally drank tea, which was why coffee never caught on until the early 2000s' urbanization among college kids and office workers. The French colonists were the plantation owners who were forced to hand over the land and kicked out in 1954, not 1945. During the Vietnam-American war, the coffee plantations never took off again because the region that grew coffee in Vietnam, the central highland, was part of the Ho Chi Minh trail and was being constantly bombed by the US during the war. After 1975, there were attempts to resurrect the coffee farming, just in the hands of coop instead of French colonists, but the production could not be shipped to the market in Europe and NA because Vietnam was under US sanction until 1995. In short, he purposely moved the timeline around and skirted over the French's role specifically to downplay the colonial ownership of the coffee plantations back before 1954 and to blame the current government for "taking the plantations away from those poor plantation owners", who were, in fact, French and quite well-known for their abuse of Vietnamese workers at the time.

    • @reggievonramstein
      @reggievonramstein Рік тому +12

      @@Booklover138 that’s all true, but the very basic storyline given in the video is quite intricate to start with. Besides this Ho Chi Min was not quite the angel he is portaient by the left either, the editorial choice to overlook that whole period is better if you just want to tell the coffee story while avoiding the old post-colonial/communist fight.

    • @Booklover138
      @Booklover138 Рік тому +39

      @@reggievonramstein Ho Chi Minh was our country's revolutionary leader, so dont insult him. Dont care which political spectrum you're in. He had nothing to do with coffee's initial lukewarm reception among the Vietnamese population, which, contrary to this video, had more to do with the French being the owners of the coffee plantations and Vietnam being a historically tea country. The history in this video is like completely wrong, doesnt get even a single thing right. Not even the fact that Vietnam was historically a tea country. It would only seem "intricate" to people who know nothing about Vietnamese culture and history, nor any knowledge of the French colonial history.

  • @joyjacobus
    @joyjacobus Рік тому +350

    This was so great, just came back from Vietnam and the coffee culture there is huge! Never thought Germany had a contribution, so much interesting facts! The more you know...

    • @MrHodoAstartes
      @MrHodoAstartes Рік тому +27

      East Germany actually had several Vietnam-themed postal stamps as part of an aid program between 1965 and 1979.
      The program was called "Unbesiegbares Vietnam", invincible Vietnam and the stamps showed the Vietnamese as brave revolutionaries.
      Buying those stamps meant a donation to the country, with the amount printed onto the stamp.
      There was a very deep connection to their Socialist brothers and coffee source.
      However, a great number of Vietnamese refugees from the South would be rescued from drifting in the Pacific and taken in by West Germany.
      So which part of one divided country you were from determined which part of another divided country would help you.

    • @liliammills
      @liliammills Рік тому

      so great,
      youtubeeem.com/6ZbD8H1G2gi
      admit I never heard of vietnamese coffee before. But I will

    • @alexanderfo3886
      @alexanderfo3886 Рік тому +8

      One wouldn't expect two countries with no obvious link to have any, and most Germans wouldn't know either, but here we are. There's that, and a common love for Maggi and kohlrabi.

    • @n_other_1604
      @n_other_1604 Рік тому +11

      The coffee filter was invented in east Germany... Saxony has a forgotten coffee culture as long & rich as Vienna, Italy, France & so on.

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Рік тому +2

      LandBack for the indigenous Montagnard peoples of Vietnam and STOP Vietnamese settler colonialism and global capitalism, STOP the coffee industry in Vietnam and Brazil NOW

  • @ducanhbui8471
    @ducanhbui8471 Рік тому +111

    Religious drinker of Vietnamese coffee here. Excellent historical video as always, but allow me to add on some context: The majority of Vietnam's "coffee industry" in the French Colonial Era was not produced by local farmers, but rather in massive French-owned plantations that rely heavily on low-skilled, indentured colonial labor. The living & working condition in those places were so horrible, that alongside peppers & rubber, coffee would be known as "the tree fertilized by Vietnamese blood".
    And the reason why coffee production plummeted, I mean, beside the obvious decades long war? As it turn out, most of the land suitable for coffee was too far from population centers and their related infrastructure (e.g: hospitals, schools...) and factor in the massive development & maintenance costs would make coffee unprofitable. So, then why did the French not think of it, and why did their coffee export brought them so much money? The reason is simple: The colonial workers were not expected to settle down in those areas. They're sent there to grow money tree for their masters, and would either wisen up and (attempt to) leave, or die.
    So the reason for Vietnamese coffee's period of decline is less "communist can't grow coffee" but more "without massive exploitation and human cruelty, colonialism-style coffee industry is impossible"

    • @ieptranphuc7167
      @ieptranphuc7167 Рік тому +6

      Great point, thanks!

    • @littlegreenclementine
      @littlegreenclementine Рік тому +8

      I wish I could boost your reply even more than just one like! other people need to see this one
      similarly I'd wager that East Germany's limited ability to secure coffee supply is... drumroll... also due to imperialism, as coffee is a tropical crop that doesn't grow well in north america or europe... well, it just so happens that the targets of western imperialism (and the horrible labor conditions and exploitation) are tropical countries. the prevalence of a lack of fair trade coffee is still a modern day issue, because imperialism as a system has adapted but is still in place. thanks, capitalism.

    • @Fridelain
      @Fridelain 2 місяці тому

      So what you are saying is the communists weren't capable of building basic infrastructure near the money making region. Gotcha.

  • @tristanwegner
    @tristanwegner Рік тому +235

    Not just Germany, but specifically EASTERN Germany. My parents actually told me that despite not earning much in Eastern Germany, since rent and food was cheap, and there was often nothing attractive available to spend their remaining money on. The flipside of capitalism. So they actually indulged in coffee, although it was roughly 10 times more expensive in ratio to the income than today.
    Also for a time you could study coffee production at university in Eastern Germany on a high level.

    • @gunterxvoices4101
      @gunterxvoices4101 Рік тому +43

      Yeah, that was the thing. The easy access to exotic things like coffee and chocolate was so easy in the West because they were able to steal it from everyone else. Life wasn't perfect in the East, but at least there weren't slave society to keep a small upper class happy😅

    • @bobdollaz3391
      @bobdollaz3391 Рік тому

      The DDR was exactly that, a slave state with an elite class!

    • @wheresmyeyebrow1608
      @wheresmyeyebrow1608 Рік тому +10

      @@gunterxvoices4101 Well...they were still that...work and hierachy didn't go away lmao

    • @gunterxvoices4101
      @gunterxvoices4101 Рік тому +1

      @@wheresmyeyebrow1608 I mean, the Junkers weren't in control of the government anymore. Fuck the Noble class and fuck the Nazis.

    • @user-rh3pe7um8d
      @user-rh3pe7um8d Рік тому

      @@gunterxvoices4101 What? You were literally shot at if you tried to leave and could be sent to forced labor camps. That's actual slavery. While the political elites enjoyed a life of luxury, the average worker had to make due with poor living standards. Socialism is much worse than Capitalism.

  • @testdasi
    @testdasi Рік тому +245

    I thought it's very funny that East Germany 50-50 mix was kinda similar to what the Vietnamese commoners were drinking back in the 90s. The Vietnamese 50-50 is 50% coffee and 50% roasted corn (and sorghum) - I was told that rice was actually cheaper as a filler but its being a staple in Vietnam means people can easily tell the flavour apart so corn then. 😅

    • @tongnguyenthien9057
      @tongnguyenthien9057 Рік тому +16

      I can't, really 🤣
      The only noticeable difference is the corn blend is significantly less sour (which I don't hate but don't like either)

    • @duongtieuta223
      @duongtieuta223 Рік тому +19

      Some said cheap places still sell that mix in vietnam these days 😂 Have to admit that it is really hard to tell it and the common robusta a part.
      People just too accustomed to the “strong” mix that anything less bitter like arabica mix be deemed lesser quality lol
      I personally cant stand the arabica coffee though even knowing all of these. Espresso shots taste like instant powdered coffee, cappuccino and latte seems to be the coffee flavored milk and iced americano is just like bland bitter water 😂

    • @danhobart4009
      @danhobart4009 Рік тому +6

      @@duongtieuta223 You sound the same as those fillipino's that defend their cuisine...

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Рік тому +5

      LandBack for the indigenous Montagnard peoples of Vietnam, LandBack for the indigenous Cham people of Central Vietnam, LandBack for the indigenous Hmong people in Northern Vietnam

    • @yoshilovesyoshi
      @yoshilovesyoshi Рік тому +6

      @@duongtieuta223 I'm a barrista at a coffee shop, and I can confirm a latte is coffee flavored milk, no matter how you look at it. A common latte is 2 shots of espresso(about 40 mL each, so around 75-90 mL of coffee) to about 14 oz(~420mL) of steamed milk, 20% of which is literally foam.

  • @ichsagnix4127
    @ichsagnix4127 Рік тому +116

    Calling the decline of coffee production in Vietnam a "mismanagement" is kinda very wrong. Think yourself in to the situation in Vietnam at the time. The whole country was basically bombed to oblivion by the US, no matter what kind of agriculture you wanted to do, it involved intense work in removing mines, duds and polluted earth from the Agent Orange flights.
    So what will your prioritized crop be, when you are a huge poulation who needs to eat every day? Definitly not coffee! And thanks to the fact that any country able to help with these shortcomings didn't want to cooperate with Vietnam for ideological reasons there was no other way than focusing exclusively on staple food at first.

    • @mynameisandong
      @mynameisandong  Рік тому +11

      They needed coffee as an export good because that‘s the only way to get their hands on hard currency they needed to import many goods crucial for the country that weren‘t available in socialist states - so it‘s a bit too easy to say coffee wasn’t essential

    • @ichsagnix4127
      @ichsagnix4127 Рік тому +70

      @@mynameisandong I think, we are talking debating past each other here. I was just trying to state that it's kinda misinterpreted to call it mismanagement if a country prefers staple foods over coffee. Vietnam is an agrarian country, of course they would focus on the feeding the people first.
      Yes, that coffee is wonderful to get some sweet foreign currency to for example acquire industrial machines can't be denied.
      Making sure that nobody starves is just a little more important.

    • @Krasnoye158
      @Krasnoye158 Рік тому +35

      @@mynameisandong this is just not true. Viet Nam at the time didn’t trade much with the outside so hard currency wasn’t a pressing issue. There was no need to export just to get currency.

    • @d.b.2215
      @d.b.2215 Рік тому

      "Mismanagement" refers to the Soviet-style planned economy that plunged a primary rice-growing country to the edge of famine. It's very much the communist party's wrong-headed, ideologically driven economic policies that brought our country to that point. Why do you feel the need to brush that off?

    • @juamu1132
      @juamu1132 11 місяців тому +3

      the real problem was their war in cambodia there were sanctions placed on them and allot of them was stationed in cambodia fighting the khmer rouge.

  • @TheNurseBetty0
    @TheNurseBetty0 Рік тому +68

    I swear that Vietnamese coffee culture and Greek coffee culture mixed in South Australia to make Farmers Union Iced Coffee, which tastes essentially like a Vietnamese coffee with milk. we love it so much here, that in 2008-9 it outsold Coca-Cola by 3:1 (they now own a milk drink company which is not as popular). For many, it is too sweet, but its the drink of choice for us, and one day I will find a way to get James Hoffman to try it just to see his expression.

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot Рік тому

      Do that!

    • @nameless_moon
      @nameless_moon Рік тому +1

      Vietnam do have milk coffee tho. And it is popular, too. I wonder if these 2 type of coffee have any relation...

    • @phunk8607
      @phunk8607 Рік тому +1

      yeahhh now i can see it... Also try Boss Vanilla coffee similar to VN coffee

  • @johnnychen9897
    @johnnychen9897 Рік тому +90

    It brings me joy to know that Bauhaus graphic design was still going strong in the GDR, those old packagings are beautiful!

    • @vincentperratore4395
      @vincentperratore4395 Рік тому

      Why?

    • @st0ox
      @st0ox Рік тому

      ​@@vincentperratore4395 because Mies Van der Rohe

    • @johnnychen9897
      @johnnychen9897 Рік тому +1

      ​@@vincentperratore4395 the Bauhaus school was established in the Weimar years in former East Germany, it was a hugely influential movement in western Europe, but after WWII, the abstract, heavily stylized forms were rejected by the USSR under the stalinist regime, because they were associated with the west and capitalism. Socialist Realism became the most widely accepted visual style for communist nations. (this is still the case in North Korea today) This shift in preferred graphic style in USSR was pretty interesting because pre-stalinist Russia actually developed their own brand of abstract, stylized visual style called "Constructivism". Constructivism had a strong following in the post-revolution Russia during the early 1900's because it was seen as a break from the visual norm of the Tsarist regime, therefore was closely associated the communist revolution in Russia, so much so that Lenin's tomb was built in this style.

  • @toaninh9120
    @toaninh9120 Рік тому +46

    As a local Vietnamese, I did NOT know about this. Now I know who to thanks for my daily anxiety juice. Thanks Andong.
    Oh beside, you really should try Vietnamese egg coffee sometimes, it's beyond delicious!

    • @DoCatTuong753
      @DoCatTuong753 Рік тому +4

      there are absolutely NO document or news about this in Vietnam =.=

    • @tovarishsus
      @tovarishsus Рік тому +3

      Đông Đức tài trợ cho Việt Nam , Đông Đức sụp đổ , không phải chia 50% sản lượng cho Đông Đức . adu vip

    • @prozbinh9858
      @prozbinh9858 Рік тому

      @@tovarishsus ngon :))))))))))))))

    • @ranjanbiswas3233
      @ranjanbiswas3233 11 місяців тому

      @@DoCatTuong753 Because East Germany doesn't exist

    • @lenn939
      @lenn939 10 місяців тому +1

      Is the egg raw? I’m kind of intrigued but eating raw eggs always comes with a slight health risk so I’m not sure it’s something that’s good to have as your daily coffee

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios Рік тому +47

    Not only that, Vietnam was also the biggest source for guest workers in the GDR. And condensed milk in coffee is also popular.

    • @lenn939
      @lenn939 10 місяців тому

      There are still a lot of people with a Vietnamese migration background going back to that time in Germany. Many have moved to the West since reunification but they also heavily cluster around Berlin.

  • @leapingkitties
    @leapingkitties Рік тому +29

    Now that's a piece of history I've never heard of before, fascinating stuff. Now I just want Vietnamese food, my absolute favorite. Thanks for sharing.

  • @LorenzoSpolaor
    @LorenzoSpolaor Рік тому +113

    Now THAT'S my boy Andong, the one I always loved. Lots of background research, great infos, neatly presented and truly enjoyable docu-style contents.
    Thanks for this interesting chapter of food history!

    • @liliammills
      @liliammills Рік тому

      vietnamese
      youtubeeem.com/QXBAMPQOgMZ
      deep dives connecting history and culture back in your food vi

    • @poisonivypornstar2268
      @poisonivypornstar2268 Рік тому

      郭富城算童顏,劉德華再畫個老妝還算無違和。
      youtubeeem.com/FVI7OJmmaHB
      人家制毒都卖国外赚外汇,😂😂😂这缉毒太悬浮了😂😂😂

    • @unserkatzenland8884
      @unserkatzenland8884 Рік тому +6

      The video is greatly biased towards Capitalism being better than Socialism, and didnt address the horrible human costs of the French plantations in Indochina for some reasons, otherwise, its a good video.

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Рік тому +1

      ​@@unserkatzenland8884 Franco-Vietnamese settler colonialism and the destruction of indigenous Montagnard peoples who earliest inhabitants of Southeast Asia

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Рік тому +1

      ​@@unserkatzenland8884 indigenous resistance against French colonialism: Jarai revolt 1887-1897, Mnong revolt 1894-1902 Rhade mutiny 1920 N'trang Lon revolt 1912-1935
      Indigenous resistance against Vietnamese-US colonialism: Y Bham Noei's civil right movement 1958-1962 Montagnard uprisings 1964-1965 FULRO insurgency against Kinh settler chauvinists 1967-1992

  • @blackwellcolin5538
    @blackwellcolin5538 Рік тому +14

    In the mid 1990s I helped in a project for the German aid agency GIZ, which helped take the old East German project and increase production and efficiency significantly. That was the take off point where Vietnam became the second largest global coffee exporter

  • @stefanklein7500
    @stefanklein7500 Рік тому +14

    Care packages with coffee packs, the metal foil packaging, where also a good way to hide the security metal strip of paper money. Chances the packages went through cargo scanning and didn't "get lost" were greatly increased when money was fixed to coffee packages, canned pineapple and similar.

  • @PaulV.
    @PaulV. Рік тому +4

    Well I would say if people went to protest because of the lack of quality coffee their lives were not as bad as others would try to convince you.

  • @emilyanhhoang6012
    @emilyanhhoang6012 Рік тому +12

    As a Vietnamese, this is incredibly fascinating to know 😄

  • @hay4101
    @hay4101 Рік тому +6

    I'm Vietnamese, I drink coffee everyday but never think about the coffee history, It is good to know where coffee come from

  • @CASIOF-91W
    @CASIOF-91W Рік тому +17

    Wow, this guy mentioned the Vietnam War like it was a natural disaster that just happened. He didn't even mention USA. for shame

    • @ernestkhalimov1007
      @ernestkhalimov1007 Рік тому +2

      A 30 year tragedy 😢

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 11 місяців тому

      The USA was only involved in it for 10 of the 30 years. It started off as a war against the French colonisers right after WW2 after Japanese occupation ceased - this happened in other Asian countries too like Indonesia against the Dutch. They were kicked out in 1954. Then it was a civil war between north and south until 1965 when the US entered the conflict. Hence it was called the ten thousand day war.

    • @ranjanbiswas3233
      @ranjanbiswas3233 11 місяців тому +1

      USA wasn't in fault of the age long Vietnam war happening in Vietnam. You don't know anything.

    • @ernestkhalimov1007
      @ernestkhalimov1007 11 місяців тому

      @@simonh6371 20 of the 30 years

    • @ernestkhalimov1007
      @ernestkhalimov1007 11 місяців тому

      @@ranjanbiswas3233 except the US supported France retaking its former colony with lethal aid

  • @PhongArtphotography
    @PhongArtphotography Рік тому +42

    😊 as Vietnamese from highland where coffee is cultivated, I didnt know about this history part, thank you Andong ❤❤❤

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Рік тому

      Vietnamese are recent settler colonists in the highland area brought by French colonials to genocide and replace the indigenous Montagnard peoples and take over their lands

  • @pakngah3715
    @pakngah3715 Рік тому +5

    In Malaysia and Singapore, we have a coffee mixture made by roasting together cheaper Robusta coffee beans, wheat flour, sugar and magarine. Known locally as kopi kampung (koepee karmpoong), it is popular especially among older people. Its creamy and caramalised taste coupled with higher levels of caffeine plus cheaper price are unrivalled. Served straight or with sugar or with sweetened condensed milk, it goes well with half boiled eggs (flavoured with soy sauce and white pepper powder) and toast with kaya (kar yar/egg coconut cream) jam for breakfast or tea.

  • @KonischOdipus
    @KonischOdipus Рік тому +59

    I have to admit I never heard of vietnamese coffee before. But I will definitely try it! And most importantly:
    Thanks for yet another amazing food history video. I laughed, I learned and I will definitely test my east german colleagues on their history knowledge tomorrow!

    • @liliammills
      @liliammills Рік тому

      Vietnam
      youtubeeem.com/9QJfjcreTW5
      st my east german colleagues on their history knowledge

    • @tonythong5352
      @tonythong5352 Рік тому +5

      A tip: Don't be fooled and do not drink too much at once because it tasted like a tasty dessert, the authentic drink is quite strong. I made that mistake way too many times...

    • @DFWTexan42
      @DFWTexan42 Рік тому +4

      I got hooked on Viet coffee a few years ago. My favorite is still a blend of 50/50% Robusta /Arabica, as I think they complement each other. Robusta has a rougher, more chocolaty flavor, wheres Arabica has an appealing floral taste, but can tend towed an unpleasant acidity. The blend tends to tame the excess of either alone. IMHO

  • @noob19087
    @noob19087 Рік тому +17

    These documentaries are some of your best videos, glad to see another one!

  • @enternalinferno
    @enternalinferno Рік тому +1

    This was such a fun story, glad to have you back!

  • @teachmotivaterepeat9712
    @teachmotivaterepeat9712 Рік тому +1

    LOVED the video!!! Thank you for investing the time in research and making of the video

  • @emulgatorx
    @emulgatorx Рік тому +14

    The subtitles "Hey, I know what you're thinking" for "Jetzt will ich aber nicht gehört haben, was Sie vielleicht gedacht haben" unfortunately does not capture the intricacies of that sentence. A more literal translation would have been "I chose to overhear what you might have thought" implying "because otherwise I would have to report you to the authorities and you'd be in big trouble". I know these subtitles were not created by Andong, so this is no criticism, I just thought it might be interesting to non-German speakers.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 11 місяців тому

      That's an incorrect translation, overheard means something different. The translation should be '' I chose not to hear what you might have thought. Overheard ist schwer zu uebersetzen, bedeutet so was wie zufaellig gehoert, aus einem Gespraech woran man nicht beteiligt war.

  • @tweefruit
    @tweefruit Рік тому +22

    i always love your food history videos, so happy to see this in my sub box

  • @yannsaint-germain4527
    @yannsaint-germain4527 Рік тому +1

    This is one of your best videos, Andong! A dozen minutes very well spent on my end.

  • @yippeyaio
    @yippeyaio Рік тому +2

    I know how much work these videos are, but you have a talent to tell this very interesting stories in a funny manner and this brings so muuuuch value to UA-cam. Please keep up with this! Kellogg’s was so far my favourite and still use this in smalltalk conversations 😅

  • @PovlKvols
    @PovlKvols Рік тому +4

    What a great story. Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @ReubenNinan
    @ReubenNinan Рік тому +2

    I absolutely love these videos! They’re so informative and entertaining, really well made my guy

  • @mrz4252
    @mrz4252 Рік тому +7

    As someone who is partially of Vietnamese ancestry, I greatly appreciate this video!

  • @CryptoMoonshots2024
    @CryptoMoonshots2024 Рік тому +1

    Your historical videos are next level, mega Alda!

  • @tsunekakou1275
    @tsunekakou1275 Рік тому +16

    It is weird to say "things started to look real good" during French colonial rule, maybe for the French rulers and coffee plantation owners, i guess. Saying the Vietnam War was devastating for coffee industry to some extent is true, but we had a lot of important stuff to worry about, fancy bean juice is not one of them. Honestly, if there were bombs exploding around you it wouldn't stop you from having your daily morning coffee enema. Tone deaf is the most i can say about this video.

    • @mynameisandong
      @mynameisandong  Рік тому +2

      There’s only so much information you can include in a 15 minute video. my priority is to share this under-told story. you can’t reasonably expect me to turn this into a discourse about colonialism and Socialism and still keep it watchable. I just like most recipe videos that includes meat will not discuss its consequences of climate change, and the unsustainability of the meat industry

    • @tsunekakou1275
      @tsunekakou1275 Рік тому +11

      @@mynameisandong Weak excuse, no one asking you to do that, i don't know what your bias are (anti-communist?) but the tone is completely wrong on that part, solely focus on coffee and ignore the suffering part of the people. There are youtube recipe videos that discuss sustainability of the ingredients. Completely ignore the Vietnamese farmer's suffer (at that point they didn't even know what communism were) but went great length to describe the Germans need their coffee like their life depends on it. It's not that hard to write a couple empathic lines of script. I think you should take this criticism and write a better script next time, or just forget about writing a history piece because this one is terrible.

  • @Wadser
    @Wadser Рік тому +9

    Back in 2018 I visited Hanoi and Saigon and in both cities I was able to get phin coffee while eating breakfast. In 2022 I visited Saigon again and phin coffee was nowhere to be found. Every coffee shop was using espresso machines like in the US. Life is getting faster there so small things like that have gone away.

    • @HoaTruong-km9rk
      @HoaTruong-km9rk Рік тому +3

      There still a lot of place use the phin. You just didn't know it. It's fine

    • @cuthomas4664
      @cuthomas4664 Рік тому +1

      Well you can ask for phin coffee and the shop will serve you though

    • @NR-fd9wv
      @NR-fd9wv Рік тому +2

      i don't know how this is even possible, i've been to vietnam in 2022 as well and i got phin coffee everwhere.

    • @tranthichinh6233
      @tranthichinh6233 Рік тому

      @@NR-fd9wv as Vietnamese, I confirm !!!

  • @reitsmacbkdw
    @reitsmacbkdw Рік тому +1

    This has got to be your best documentary yet! Well, maybe just the funniest! Thank you!

  • @SpiegelDasKaetzchen
    @SpiegelDasKaetzchen Рік тому +1

    Glad you're doing those kind of videos again, I missed that!

  • @annaknaifel
    @annaknaifel Рік тому +6

    Great video!!! Very interesting story and Andong‘s famous storytelling 😊 Thank you!

  • @n_other_1604
    @n_other_1604 Рік тому +6

    The coffee filter was invented in east Germany... Saxony has a forgotten coffee culture as long & rich as Vienna, Italy, France & so on.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 11 місяців тому

      Seriously? That was Melitta right? I thought it was a western German company. My pack of filters is labelled as being made in Minden.

    • @n_other_1604
      @n_other_1604 11 місяців тому

      @@simonh6371 Yes it was Melitta Bentz & she was born in Dresden where she also invented it & started her business... Wikipedia: "The fast-growing company eventually relocated in 1929 to Minden in eastern Westphalia as no more satisfactory production facilities could be found in Dresden."

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 11 місяців тому

      @@n_other_1604 Thanks I did look on wiki afterwards and found out she invented it in Dresden. I know Minden pretty well actually, I was stationed in Herford for 2 years. Used to go to some club there with German friends.

  • @Sassafrassassassa
    @Sassafrassassassa Рік тому +1

    Fascinating video! you’re the king of food history videos!

    • @mynameisandong
      @mynameisandong  Рік тому

      I believe that title will forever belong to Max from Tasting History, but thanks :D

  • @lilacdoodz
    @lilacdoodz Рік тому +3

    This was so cool to watch! I had no idea about the history of Vietnamese coffee!

  • @Skyliner04s
    @Skyliner04s Рік тому +9

    Heya Andong! (east) German viewer here! I was expecting something else from this video. As most of the "Chinese" restaurants where I live are managed by people with Vietnamese origin, I wondered if you could shine a light on why so many Vietnamese came to the GDR.
    Nevertheless, very interesting stuff!^^ Me likey!^^ Thank you!

    • @aznmochibunny
      @aznmochibunny Рік тому +2

      It is possible that the Chinese restaurants run by Vietnamese might have some traces of Chinese bloodline or are Chinese who lived in Vietnam before immigrating. In Vietnam, these people are referred to as the Hoa people and are an ethnic group in Vietnam.

    • @Ascania
      @Ascania Рік тому +5

      @@aznmochibunny Nope. It has to do with the Vietnamese guest workers in East Germany. After the wall of the Berlin Wall most of them were laid off when the factories they worked in closed down and (IIRC) Vietnam wouldn't take them back before their contracted term ended. The same time saw a large spike in demand for chinese-style cuisine.

    • @grundgesetzart.1463
      @grundgesetzart.1463 Рік тому +3

      they came to study and to work. The only type of immigration that Germany needs and also a beneficial arrangement for the migrants themselves. I would change the 100.000s of Afghans, Syrians etc for Vietnamese people, if it would be possible.

  • @greenleaf4127
    @greenleaf4127 Рік тому

    this was a very fun episode!

  • @swat3563
    @swat3563 Рік тому

    Your studio and the whole video asthetic is so relaxing and vibes. keep up the great work! from the netherlands.

  • @davidfuchs97
    @davidfuchs97 Рік тому +5

    What an interesting video! I loved the Vietnamese iced coffee. I had no idea about it‘s connection to German history. Thanks for this great content.

  • @moishemillerr
    @moishemillerr 10 місяців тому

    So interesting! Thanks for the little history lesson man

  • @bradbrisbane
    @bradbrisbane Рік тому

    I really enjoy food history. Thank you. I've never thought or heard about this.

  • @anitapaulsen3282
    @anitapaulsen3282 9 місяців тому

    Your entertaining and humorous presentation of this coffee history was most enjoyable.

  • @TomMannis
    @TomMannis 10 місяців тому

    I love your food history videos. Keep them coming!

  • @weltvonalex
    @weltvonalex Рік тому

    Thank you, that was a really good content and very interesting.

  • @MrTraveller.
    @MrTraveller. Рік тому

    Thanks for letting us know this information

  • @natefunk1
    @natefunk1 Рік тому +2

    These history videos are the reason I subbed. Keep it up ma dude.👍

  • @binhphan564
    @binhphan564 Рік тому +3

    During the planned economy period in Vietnam, which lasted until 1985-1986, the Government of Vietnam also limited people's access to coffee, and they did come up with the same thing that GDR did- mixing all kind of stuffs, from soy beans, corn,... to areca nut extraction to recreate the taste and smell of strong coffee. That very method was brought to a higher level by Trung Nguyên, the most well known Vietnamese coffee brand, which turns it into a million dollar business, and they still continue that "blending" until today. That's why people with coffee knowledge, or those who have access/tasted real coffee, are turning their back on Trung Nguyên, and show their support to smaller coffee producers/brands that offer the real deal.

    • @cuthomas4664
      @cuthomas4664 Рік тому +3

      Most of the audience of this video they don't bother understand the fact. East Germany coffee style almost destroyed our coffee heritage from the French.
      Tụi khán giả kênh này có hiểu gì về lịch sử phát triển của cafe Việt Nam mình đâu. Đa phần thông tin xàm

    • @Dima-je6hu
      @Dima-je6hu 9 місяців тому

      ​@@cuthomas4664 hello, Sir! im small YT blogger and now i'm making a video about Vietnam coffe, where are you leave can i ask you a few question about hostory of coffee?

  • @tudorgt
    @tudorgt Рік тому

    what a cool and engaging story teller and story :) tysm

  • @Xeqcme
    @Xeqcme Рік тому

    This was great!

  • @momolife1982
    @momolife1982 Рік тому +1

    GREAT VIDEO!!! KEEP THEM UP

  • @heroino89
    @heroino89 Рік тому +1

    Yeeeeeess!! More food history and the familiar Andong music!

  • @chrisholds1
    @chrisholds1 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for this food history Andong. It was really fascinating and I enjoyed it a great deal! 🙂 Please keep making these sort of episodes along with all of your other very enjoyable and informative videos. I always learn something when I watch your videos.

  • @NathanL
    @NathanL Рік тому +2

    I love your food history videos, please do more.

  • @fenyx2558
    @fenyx2558 Рік тому +4

    Need more food history docus from you!

  • @jankoch267
    @jankoch267 Рік тому +8

    I recently had some Vietnamese Specialty Coffee and it was quite enjoyable. I do enjoy Ethiopian and Columbian Coffee more but it had some nice deep flavours though not as complex as higher grown coffees

  • @zoltankaparthy9095
    @zoltankaparthy9095 8 місяців тому

    Very interesting. Your presentation was excellent.

  • @Uberlord1337
    @Uberlord1337 Рік тому +6

    Hell yeah been looking forward to the next Andong food history video

  • @meLo_orig
    @meLo_orig Рік тому +1

    I stopped for the coffee, went off having learned something new. Thanks for the video!

  • @fiatlux8828
    @fiatlux8828 Рік тому

    These are your best kinds of vids tbh

  • @mememoments2779
    @mememoments2779 11 місяців тому

    great story, great viddeo!

  • @mrmakhno3030
    @mrmakhno3030 Рік тому +3

    There is also a weird kind of coffee in Vietnam, mostly used by the Communist forces in South Vietnam during the war. They used rice, break them into powder, put on heated pan until gaining black or brown color, add some water and sugar then boil this mixture and serve. They won the war with some kind of weird drink like that.

    • @minhnguyenphanhoang4193
      @minhnguyenphanhoang4193 Рік тому

      It's the trick to spare coffee. People still do that but with soy bean and it is looked down upon.

  • @ephan6364
    @ephan6364 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the history of Vietnamese coffee. I couldn't believe it that Gẻmany actually helped Vietnam in the coffee industry. Good research.

  • @alysoffoxdale
    @alysoffoxdale Рік тому +33

    Putting deep dives connecting history and culture back in your food videos again? I am so here for it!

  • @RecipesOfHope
    @RecipesOfHope Рік тому

    Thanks for this great sip of history

  • @simonh6371
    @simonh6371 11 місяців тому

    Great vid, thanks for sourcing and squeezing in so much old footage, loved it! Actually I knew about the East German connection from a German documentary miniseries ''Mahlzeit DDR'' which has a whole episode about the coffee problem, but I didn't know it had been started under French colonial rule
    Liked and subscribed

  • @brutkastentv
    @brutkastentv 2 місяці тому

    Great Video Andong (: Still astounded by the complex colonial circumstances that brought Beverages like Tea, Coffee & Spirits around the World. Thanks for doing really needed educational work! Keep it coming!

  • @jacquespoulemer3577
    @jacquespoulemer3577 Рік тому +23

    Andong Wonderful. As a Teutonophile, foodie, and history nut this little gem escaped my notice before. It's one of those tiny details that gets lost in the shuffle. It was also fun seeing the old East German coffee packets. I've noticed that ex-colonies in the warmer parts of the world all use canned milk. Many famous drinks (the first I learned of was Thai Tea) use canned milk as an ingredient Tbank you for this. 🤓 all the best, Jim Oaxaca Mexico

    • @khoatran-pc6tb
      @khoatran-pc6tb Рік тому +3

      Speaking as a Vietnamese, I do think our use of condense milk is more of a result f wartime ration. In fact, here we do raise our own dairy cattle and have even started to experiment with cheese making

  • @rahulshivaram1510
    @rahulshivaram1510 Рік тому

    Love this!

  • @Poohze01
    @Poohze01 Рік тому

    Such a great video! I love me some good food-history!

  • @jimmyyu2184
    @jimmyyu2184 Рік тому +3

    So the Meika "Coffee" is the same as what American Civil War soldiers drank as "Coffee"... Fascinating connection/history.

  • @NoName-sb9tp
    @NoName-sb9tp Рік тому

    My friend, that’s some interesting facts about our coffee industry that most people will never know. Thank you for making a video about our country Vietnam. Can you make a video about Pho next? The origin of pho would be very interesting for you.

  • @gideonm.7425
    @gideonm.7425 Рік тому

    Great video! Also, I noticed the word "Melange" was written on the RONDO pack... "The Spice Must Flow.."

  • @TashJansson
    @TashJansson Рік тому +1

    YES! FOOD HISTORY EPISODE!!

  • @Philboh8
    @Philboh8 Рік тому +2

    1:05 that music had me thinking Mark Rober was about to join in and start explaining it

    • @DasIllu
      @DasIllu Рік тому +1

      Kevin McLeod and all the other musicians...
      Nowadays no one even seems to want to credit them anymore for their Creative Commons work that keeps youtube alive.

  • @saschakolb7102
    @saschakolb7102 Рік тому

    Great Video 👍

  • @julianbouquet3536
    @julianbouquet3536 Рік тому +1

    Sweet Video!

  • @andrejmucic5003
    @andrejmucic5003 Рік тому +3

    I don't think I can ever watch any of videos again.

  • @brucelee5576
    @brucelee5576 Рік тому +2

    Vietnam is the definition of bounce back , having to defend themselves against invaders not for decades but centuries. Not just Just mainland Vietnamese but all Vietnamese are just downright resilient people.

  • @c4li
    @c4li Рік тому +1

    never knew about this, super interesting! especially as a weird coffee person.

  • @lynnettejohns4733
    @lynnettejohns4733 Рік тому

    Wow! What a great education.

  • @wendyshoowaiching4161
    @wendyshoowaiching4161 Рік тому

    Yes I have it too. Very fascinating product

  • @david3549tw
    @david3549tw Рік тому

    It’s good coffee and a good repotting. Tks

  • @sdega315
    @sdega315 Рік тому

    Great video storytelling right here! This could be a segment on CBS Sunday Morning.

  • @t0mn8r35
    @t0mn8r35 Рік тому +1

    This was very enjoyable and brought back very old (65 years ago( memories when we escaped Hungary in 1956 with one imitation leather suitcase and in the suitcase was a packet of coffee because no coffee = no life..

  • @AlexanderHayorov
    @AlexanderHayorov Рік тому +4

    It’s actually Soviet Russian Truck - ZIL 130 that you used in video multiple times, but it doesn’t make the story bad.

  • @lindenlonstrup3326
    @lindenlonstrup3326 Рік тому +2

    Love these kind of history videos you do. I'd suggest swapping out the thumbnail with something a little more striking so that it catches the eye of more people as it deserves to.

  • @eh1496
    @eh1496 Рік тому +4

    I had the pleasure of tasting amazing arabica coffee in Dal Lat. So delicious...
    The classic vietnamese coffee is mostly 100% robusta and despite being super strong it's pretty boring taste wise. Didn't get used to the sweetened condensed milk though...

  • @brian5728
    @brian5728 8 місяців тому

    Great video. If you and Adam Ragusea did a colab video or project of somekind it would be an epic concoction of food history and science.

  •  Рік тому

    I used to live down the road from Röstfein coffee roastery in Magdeburg in (former) East Germany as a uni student. Great smells.

  • @tomeatshouston
    @tomeatshouston 10 місяців тому +1

    Fascinating. I'd always assumed that Vietnam's coffee had something to do with French colonialism (like their pastries and sandwiches).
    This was a very educational -- and entertaining -- video. Thanks Andong!

  • @boogey815
    @boogey815 Рік тому +5

    UA-cam: "so, do you support the left or right wing?"
    Andong: "I like food"

  • @tomasdo5667
    @tomasdo5667 7 місяців тому

    Thanks Andong, no text book, media or newspaper in Viet Nam has mentioned it.

  • @HumbertoRamosCosta
    @HumbertoRamosCosta Рік тому +1

    5:14 Those east germany packs looks great.

  • @muhaiminhakim1183
    @muhaiminhakim1183 Рік тому

    I love how andong make this food history video.. keep it up.. loving your contents..✨