Stand Out in Research (for Med School & Residency Apps)
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- Research is a unique extracurricular in that if you execute it effectively, it can truly set yourself apart from other medical school and residency candidates. And any research you do in college will still count and help your app when you apply to residency. Here's how to maximize research as a premed or medical student!
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0:17 Why is Research So Important?
0:44 Premed Roadmap Overview
2:04 Overview of Impressing PI and Portraying Research
2:50 How to Impress Your PI
4:50 How to Optimize For Publications
5:56 Creating Your Own Study from Scratch
8:20 Portraying Pubs, Abstracts, Presentations on Your Application
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BTW, I released this video as an example of what you can expect in the course. Some may say "you can find all this information for free online." The information you just watched in this video you won't anywhere else before the publish date (maybe people parrot it after it's released) because these are tactics and strategies that only a small minority of top performers even know about. Good luck.
You should do more videos on Residency Apps!
How many times did you dissect a cadaver when you were in Med school?
Hi I just found you and just asked for free consultation for today as I need to make deadline decisions. Also the coupon code doesn't work. Do you have a new one? Thanks
Still can't believe there's videos as such on the internet. One could tell the dedication and hard work that goes into all these videos you post from both your channels. A big thank you!
What's the other channel
@@agharu1837 Med School Insiders
My undergrad PI told me how frustrated she was that most pre-meds seem to just want to "box check" with research. Dr Jubbal, you said it perfectly here...outwork others, take initiative and being meticulous were my go-to's for undergrad lab/projects and they WILL set you apart!! ....Takes time but well worth it
That thumbnail is me when the MCAT in May was cancelled and I just spent months studying for it.
Too real
Kevin Jubbal, M.D. That day was ruined for me the minute I opened up the email and read it lol. I’m still moving along smooth though at least.
And you could've brought communism to the MCAT. Damn.
Josef Stalin, Sir, will you and your regime provide healthcare for everyone?
This was an excellent video for people in the first or second year of grad school as well. I have a research-based doctoral degree but I wish I had started on the research journey early and this would’ve been awesome to have seen
Hi Kevin! I really love how you took the time to make such a comprehensive toolkit for premeds, and I wish I had such a thing 4 years ago when I first entered undergrad. Now that I'm applying to med schools this cycle, can you next make a roadmap to residency? I feel like that aspect of becoming a doctor is less discussed in detail, and it would greatly help those who have made it to med school and want to make the most of it to get into dream/competitive residencies! :)
Your voice has such a calming quality to it.
Thank you for this video! Incoming M1 here and def need to hear this!
I’m not pre-med but I’m still watching!
Harleen R you’ll switch sooner or later
World+Savior what do you mean??
Congratulations
World+Savior, no it’s his choice. If he likes engineering let him do engineering. He’s doesn’t necessarily have to switch.
Because you are in medical school
Love your videos! Thank you for inspiring and helping me!
Just what I needed, looking into ortho/plastics and starting year 1 in 2 weeks!
hello brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You always motivate me to enter med school.........I'm grateful to you for such videos.....
Hey Dr. Jubbal! Im an incoming high school senior and have developed an interest in pursuing medicine. I would love to hear more about your high school or maybe even earlier life if you would be willing to talk about it. Thanks for helping everyone and stay safe ✌
Great idea. Will touch on it in a future AMA. Any specific questions from that period?
@@kevinjubbalmd I was thinking possibly your future career ideas from that time, lifestyle, hobbies, or any stories or events that changed you as a person. Thank you again!
@@kevinjubbalmd idea: how's your lifestyle in balance with work
Finally someone praising MENDELEY! I felt like I was the only one. It's amazing :)
Mendeley is great, although it's sometimes more buggy and breaks with Word more often than EndNote from my experience.
@@kevinjubbalmd that's interesting, as I've experienced the opposite. But nonetheless. Either reference manager is superior to the in built Word one 😅
Dr. Jubbal, can you please explain briefly how to search for specialty specific databases and how to use them to develop a study from the scratch?
Dr. Jubbal can you do "so you want to be genetic research doctor" or PhD student.
You are inspiration.
Thank you.
Thank you Kevin 🎯
I'd like to know how to actually get into research as a medical student in the first place. I don't live in the USA so I assume it works a bit different, but where I live no lab will let you use their facilities without actually being a titled professional.
same
Same
I think you have to email professors requesting them to give you a research position and if they do accept you, then you will be able to access the lab with them.
There's a separate video in the course about how to secure a research position, including the three most common avenues and the pros and cons of each, including how to pursue each one.
@@kevinjubbalmd Have you thought about selling each video separately? As a medical student in a country that's not the USA, I'd be very interested in learning about how to secure a research position, but not about most of the other stuff (which only applies to current or aspiring US medical students).
I really love your videos. Keep it up
As a statistical editor for several top journals, academic, and NIH PI, the only pubs that count in funding are first, second, or last. Last usually means you are the PI of the project, so it is an indication of how successful your lab is in publishing. First or second indicate scientific innovation. Letters to the editor, even in JAMA or NEJM where data is presented, do not count as peer-reviewed in many departments. One interesting thing we see on NIH review committees is a 1-year MPH claiming expertise in biostats, epidemiology, et cetera. There is just no substitute for focus! This can be a fatal flaw without having principal author publications in those specialty journals. The question I always pose to residents interested in the MPH--how exactly will it help you? What do you want to do? They are often surprised when I tell them that there is a difference between the MSPH and MPH...the difference is the "S" for science! The MPH exposes individuals, usually in an accelerated 12-18m format, to the disciplines that compose public health. The degree can be very useful in helping a medical professional become a more astute consumer of scientific research and its application to every-day clinical practice. Anyway, these are related random thoughts to your excellent channel. I've heard many students and residents discussing topics that have appeared on your channel!
Publications for medical school or residency admissions is very different than securing funding. No premed or med student is going to be PI (last author), but they can aim to be first, second, or third. Being third author is better than no publication, but obviously isn't as good as first or second.
@@kevinjubbalmd True, but we've seen a few med students opt for the PhD route first, then apply to med school. I argue there is a hierarchy. As an Ivy leaguer, I can say first hand that there is a distinction on authorship. But, at state-funded schools, publications aren't expected, but more of a bonus when candidates are up for scholarship funding. But I agree that on average, lack of publications really can't hurt you, but can only help. But, once you hit fellowship and asst. clinical professor, they can be huge assets to your cv! Thanks for your note.
The best ❤️
Awesome video!
Dr.Jubbal is the person I strive to be.
Nah friend aim much higher
Thank you so much 😷
Great video, I'm looking to implement the same strategy. Quick Question: how do you know what database you have access to before actually meeting with an attending/PI?
Great videos, extremely informative and very useful!! A few questions to ask:
-What about publishing narrative review articles especially if there aren't many lab research opportunities as an IMG (I'm from the UK btw)?
-Assuming that you are the first author in publishing narrative review articles, how does this compare to actual laboratory research articles when applying for residency?
-Are narrative review articles weighed less upon by residency directors?
We as IMGs need all the help we can get so that we have a more fair shot at applying for residency haha.
i totally agree with "free shot"
If you check Kevin Jubbal's web page you can see that many of his publications are in deed reviews. I don't know if that helps. I have the same question :(
Can you do a video on how to choose electives in Medical School if you’re not sure what specialty to apply for by your 3rd year?
Yes...the 1st question used to bother me a lott
I appreciate your videos
it's important to point out the research you do too. It is easy and highly likely to get many publications doing clinical research, whereas benchwork research in a lab can take years for a publication and dependent on how many projects you work on and if they stem into other papers or one. Lab research takes years to go through phases takes a slightly different tour before reaching the publication phase.
Yes I’ve done some bench research which I would agree is much slower. They’re two different animals with some commonalities
@@kevinjubbalmd I agree. Thanks for all your videos and insights tho!
@@kevinjubbalmd i see, which is more impressive on your C.V? also what is clinical research? It hard generating an idea for it, because i don't know what constitute a clinical research topic, where can i learn about it?
Dr. Jubbal, take a day off please. You are making me feel super inadequate. Can I borrow some of that drive please ?
I'm in highschool, but I might still buy it.
Comes with lifetime access!
This was a good video man. Wow.
I haven’t even taken the act but I already have such ridiculous dreams and I’m thinking wya too far ahead 💀 but let’s get it I wanna prove myself wrong
Thank you for posting this! I've been waiting for this video for a while, so I'm so happy you made this.
I'm starting med school soon - do mentors ever write letters for residency? Or will those just come from attendings we do rotations with during 3rd year?
Yes mentors write letters for residency, but the nature of the relationship is relevant
@@kevinjubbalmd Thank you! I'm trying to learn as much as I can about this stuff, so I really appreciate it.
Hello! Could you do a video on how to get into someone’s research project in the first place? This video was also very helpful
We have a video in the course about how to find and secure a research position
Thank you so much for this video Dr. Jubbal! It's good to realize that I have been using the same techniques and strategies as you recommend. I was just wondering what are your thoughts about including non-academic journal publications on your CV, given they are medicine or healthcare advocacy related? I am an MS3 aiming for OB/GYN residency in the future and wanted to publish an opinion piece on reproductive health in International Federation of Medical Students journal or The New Physician (AMSA's journal, that is also accepting pre-med publications for those interested!!!). Thank you for your time!
Did you know KELVIN sir, last night I was thinking of Reserch for medschool and In morning, your video caught my eyes
You are real genius sir
Love from India
Hey Kevin!
I know this question is nuanced due to the differences in individuals’ rate of knowledge acquisition and prior experience with a subject. Nevertheless, how many hours per day have you seen students who match into competitive specialties study per day/week during regular weeks (not cramming blocks prior to a midterm, final, or STEP)? I see individuals posting that they study for 65-70 hours per week. But, I have been studying for 4-5 hours per day for a while (tracking with Forrest) now and my cognitive abilities are fairly low at the end due to exhaustion. My sessions at the moment consist of Anki reviews, 1.5-3 hours of Khan/AK Lectures, and writing Anki cards. I’ve also read a few studies where the researchers concluded that four hours of intense concentration on deliberate practice per day seems to be a trained limit. So, hearing that these students study 8-11 hours per day both concusses and intimidates me. These stats are from The Student Doctor Network and Reddit, so they could be inflated. I have experienced that before.
As always, thank you.
Hi Kevin! I'm an M1 student who is currently in the process of looking for a research lab to join. Do you recommend choosing labs with PIs whose focus is on helping students carry out less time consuming studies such as using retrospective database studies as opposed to prospective studies that can sometimes take over a year to complete? Is there any advantage to having more time consuming projects? For example, the work could end up being published in a well-known journal.
Dr. Jubbal, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the current situation with MCAT testing. I’m here in south Florida where cases in COVID are surging, and CA just ordered new shutdowns. What do you think of standardized testing still being administered when AAMC is still randomly cancelling tests?
Too many unknowns at this point to speak definitively. I point my students to the official websites and we also have a page compiling updates from various resources during these uncertain times: medschoolinsiders.com/2020-medical-school-application-cycle-updates/
Hi. I'm not from the US, so I was wondering what constitutes as a "research item"? Are they still included even if they're not published in a peer-reviewed journal? If you assists in a research study that isn't published, do you include that as well? Also, if the attending is the PI, aren't they the primary author? Sorry for all the questions. Haven't med a young doctor with 65 research projects yet so I'm just a little surprised. Were you the main author for those 65 studies?
Thanks
When you say Create your own research you talk about a Systematic review or a Metaanalysis? Cause I see almost imposible to make a paper of other kind just with database
I'm speaking about just one example in this video, which would be retrospective analyses from databases. There are several types of studies you can pursue.
Now I understand, thank you so much Kevin you saved my career! Love to you
Just commenting for the algorithm 🧡
Can u do a video on how to type faster? Thanks
Question: because of the covid how I'm I able to get a good recommendation. When everything is online.
5:54 Dude I'm starting med school at unc this fall and this is definitely something I want to try doing - do you have any other resources that you recommend reading/watching to learn more about this independent research approach? I'd also love to hear a future video on this where you take a deep dive - that would be insanely helpful.
We are editing a research course currently. Stay tuned
@@kevinjubbalmd awesome excited for it!
@@kevinjubbalmd Has your course come out yet?
Hey, I’m a first year med student from India and looking forward to give USMLE, this video really helped though it’s different here. Thankyou❤️
I was curious. How long did it usually take you to execute the advanced technique (from coming up with hypothesis to showing a draft to PI)?
Highly variable. When I was well versed in the practice and new the database and the research landscape well, I was able to put something out in less than a week. I once did 2 over the course of a weekend, but it was only abstracts for presentation submission, not full papers. I think the full paper of each took another week or two total.
This isn't something that is easy or straightforward to do. It's definitely a more advanced technique for those who really want it.
writing articles and publishing them in a journal (is that what's included in research work ?
please advise) is the same publication that is a valuable asset to our cv for residency in highly competitive specialities?
I have never interested in research idk i think it is not me hahaha but i still like to watch this!
It's useful for premeds/med students to at least try out research to see if it's something they enjoy. Usually the initial stages are intimidating or less fun, but with a few weeks or months of continued effort, many find it rewarding. For me it only clicked a long while later.
Yesss i agreee, i mean some of my friends do research competition or join some researches but i just did experimental reserch once in a life time for my final task about liver fibrosis
@@kevinjubbalmd and yes it was intimidating me especially i got strict supervisor 😬😭
Can someone explain to me how can we get our research project published by a scientific journal!! (As premeds or undergrad studies)
Can someone explain what a "PI" is, and how does research actually go down, like is there a lab or something you go to during your freetime?
Do you recommend getting an associates in science while in high school.And then pursue a bachelor in a university. What would be your recommendation for high schools students. Love the vids!!
there’s nothing wrong with that, but you should definitely take a gap year or two after university. Just two years is not enough time to get your application beefed up (especially since most applicants have went to college for 4 years, and then proceeded to take a gap year). The average applicant is around 24 years old, so beware of that.
Dr. Jubbal, How did you get access to databases to do your research?
How to actually split findings into multiple smaller abstracts and it't that self plagiarism? I have my original research with me and have extra hypothesis so directly use that ?
I would like to start research
Hi Kevin :) I have a question. Would you recommend doing research in different fields or is it cleverer to specialize on one topic?
Usually going deep in a single area is more fruitful than trying to bounce around and staying surface level
I'm currently in a program in my department that helps to encourage undergrad students to participate in research by helping them contact profs in the department. Once I found a PI, I asked him if I could create and run my own study design using lab resources - he said yes, likely because most of the funding for the project would come from the undergrad research program that I just mentioned. Following approval, I basically evaluated a lot of primary literature with input from him on study purpose and design, and am currently in the data collection process. The only catch is that while I will be presenting my research in two separate forums before I graduate, my study is destined to simply be added to the university knowledge bank rather than be published.
My question is, does the lack of achieving a publication hurt the value of my project on my application, despite going through IRB approval, data collection, literature review, analysis, etc.?
Make sure you portray your presentations effectively in your app. Pub in peer reviewed journal would be more powerful but it’s not a dealbreaker. Make the most of the situation
@@kevinjubbalmd thanks Dr. Jubbal!
Hello
Can you please introduce some prestigious summer research programs for pre-med students?
Thank you
Once the independent research is done, who do you give the lit review to? In premed, it wouldn't be an attending physician.
“Ask not what your PI can do for you, but what you can do for your PI” JFK approves 👱🏻♂️
Does Dr. J heart comments?
luv u :)
😘
I’m pre Military I’m gonna go in as a combat medic and come out end than try to become a RN or go all the way and use my G.I. Bill to go the doctor route do you have any tips about military going into medical thank you your awesome
How important is what journal your paper is published in
How would you describe it in an application for AMCAS?
Like I have numerous publications abstracts and papers that I wrote as primary author and co-authored
I have the Dean's Excellence In Research Award
The research encompassed brain injury in athletes and multiple subtopics that tie the use of exercise to mitigate the risks associated with contact sports
As you can tell I am passionate about my research
It seems like a waste to use 3 activities to describe all of these, that are so important and dear to me
Any thoughts?
If any med student here, How many times do you dissect a cadaver in a year? In my college ive done it only once (1st Year)? Is that too less?
The medical school I had gone to had us take Anatomy in our first semester. We were in the anatomy lab about 3 times a week for 4+ hrs. Afterwards, if you liked being in the lab, you could apply to be an anatomy Lab TA during your second year and teach the year below you in the anatomy lab.
To answer your second question, you've done more dissection than I have before medical school (which was zero haha) so I think you're good!
Do medical schools prefer hard scientific research to public health research? Thank you!
I’m working on a meta analysis in orthopedics right now. I just downloaded the database program. I’m really interesting in making myself a competitive applicant for medical school. Do you know any you can link me with so I can churn out papers like you that will get published? I’m really willing to learn and do the work to earn my way in.
Hey Kevin! I’m a premed entering my freshman year of college at Pitt this fall (yay!), and I’m coming in with a little over 30 credits (1 year). I haven’t spoken to any premed advisors yet, but I was hoping I’d get your opinion if possible. Due to Covid 19, I won’t be able to do any sort of research my first year, when students normally just can’t do research their first semester at Pitt, so I was wondering what I can do to get a head start and set myself apart this year aside for the normal stuff like keeping a 4.0, exploring my interests, making connections, etc)? Also, because I have so many credits, it’s feasible that I could have a very light schedule later in college (since I’m planning on loading up lots of classes early). From your perspective, would it be better to spend that extra time pursuing a ton of research and extracurricular opportunities, or by completing a very extensive education (i.e. double major or even triple major plus a certificate, which Pitt has a conceptual foundations of medicine one that I plan of going for)? I hope you can see this and give some insight, thanks!
Are abstracts and presentations counted as publications too? If I see on the internet a resident has written 65 publications like you did, I find it hard to believe they are all papers, I am currently doing a retrospective research and it’s taking me months to write it! :(
I have 65 research items, including publications, abstracts, and presentations. Not just publications alone. Each research item holds weight in your application
Hey can u plzz make a video on how to get internship as high schooler?
I want to go to med school. I have forgotten how to research because I have been working for so long. Any highly recommended UA-cam channel for research or thesis for a beginner or refresher?
Thanks
Can you do a video about bs md program
I have a question, as a second year med student, is it too early for me to start working on a researche/ publication ????
Make a research guide sir
Every PI has a project or two in the back of his/her head that he/she has not been able to get to. Ask is there a project I can take on that to date you have not been able to get to that would be appropriate for me?
Hey, is your course also applicable for Canadian students?
no, optimized for the US. There may be some carry over but I cannot say that it’s designed for canadian students
Can u do a video for middle school students transitioning to high school?
his main audience is college/med school students, so i’d highly doubt he’d make that vid
Who came here from MED SCHOOL INSIDERS
But how do I get a research position? Could you elaborate more on that Kevin?
More details in the course
OMG I absolutely love this video! I tried to ask ppl about research experience and stuff like that but no one really knows it as detailed as you do. But I have a question though, for research experience as a pre-med, is it recommended to do summer student research with a physician scientist supervisor at hospitals affiliated to universities or continue doing research/volunteer in your professors' labs since my school is pretty far from where I come from while those hospitals are close? As always, thanks Dr Jubbal❤️
Doing research with a physician scientist at hospital vs at your university is not an easy question to answer, since there are other factors which are more important to address. Which PI is going to be a better mentor and advocate for you when you apply? Which lab provides ample experience and ability for independence/autonomy to prove yourself? If you're there only for the summer, are you able to do meaningful work (more likely with clinical versus bench work)? Which one do you find more interesting? These are just a few of the questions you should consider when making a decision.
@@kevinjubbalmd Thank you so much for the suggestions!!
I'm just wondering how he did all those articles and presentations while juggling med school rotations and studying...
Research year
Hi Dr. Jubbal!! I'm going to be a freshman this fall, and I am hoping to get my hands involved in research as soon as I adjust. Does the initial research need to be in the "hard science" field? I'm extremely interested in an experience involving children's comprehension of abstract words, but I want to know if research like this is beneficial to my premed background.
Absolutely beneficial
@@kevinjubbalmd Great, thank you!!
sorry am dominican, what is a PI (am a medical student but in spanish)
Hey,
I just started as a research specialist at a prominent surgery center.
Is there a way you could help me write up some studies so I can impress him during the meeting?
I want to have publications but I was told I may not be able to bc of my position. So I’m thinking if I do what you did and have a retrospective one already completed. He will sign off since the work will be done.
Please let me know if you can help.
Can you elaborate more on the spilt findings?
Thanks for this great clip.
How can I make abstracts?
I have to present my previous publications' abstract?
What about presentation?
Stay tuned we will be having more videos and resources on research later this year
@@kevinjubbalmd thank you ❤️
i’m going to be a freshman in hs and i want to do research as a extracurricular sometime in hs. however idk where to look for research opportunities
sun sun Usually the science teachers have some sort of research going on. I’d ask them if you haven’t, and the worst they can say is they aren’t doing any research.
Josef Stalin oh ok thank you!!
To be honest, most people don’t do research until their sophomore year of undergrad at the earliest. I went to a college that sends a high number of students to top PhD programs and they didn’t allow research until 2nd year. Don’t be disappointed if it doesn’t happen in hs.
swimman62197 true but i’ve heard that research can help with getting into a bsmd program which is what i’m aiming towards
sun sun Those are different circumstances-make sure you emphasize that in your cold calls. I went the traditional route to med school so anything I did in hs didn’t matter and didn’t go on my application.
Hi Kevin,
Already have my bachelors degree in psychology & did not take the premed route. However I have always wanted to be doctor. I would be the first in my family to do so.
Any advice for people like me? Is this course still tailored to and for those who are looking to get into medical school ? Or do you have any other recommendations on where & how to get started
Check out our services on medschoolinsiders.com/ as well as our blog filled with resources and guides about the medical school application process: medschoolinsiders.com/our-blog/
but how do you even get a research position? im so lost!
Talk all about it in the course
In undergrad, it was a lot of cold email sent. I would look up a researcher at my university or another university in the same area. I would then read some of their publications. In my cold email, I would introduce myself, talk about my interests, and mention what I found fascinating about there past publications. I was able to get two publications and work on 3 different projects in undergrad. It may be different in med school, but I think it’s a good start.
Just email or ask the PI, or somebody in the lab.
just ask professors or look for a summer research internship! don’t pay for premed advice that’s wack. there’s tons of free resources online :) good luck.
email all research profs at your uni
7:33 are you talking about meta analysis?
here i am going to med school without any reserach
What's a PI?
I'm from Zambia do I qualify?
how can I find google scholar
Is research necessary for getting into med school? I’m not really interested in research and I am planning on applying to med schools ranked for primary care rather than research.
Not required but certainly helpful, particularly for top ranked resesrch institutions
Kevin Jubbal, M.D. okay thank you so much !!
what do i do if my name is et. al
😂
What is your email please? I’d like to ask you a question.