Is AP something a casino would ban someone for? Even though it's not illegal to finish playing out a game someone else left, but a casino would not like APs getting free money.
I've been warned at the Bellagio to not "bonus check" when I was checking machines. I think if you're more subtle, you should be okay, but most people aren't subtle
@@Tahngarth825 It's kind of ridiculous to install a game with a mechanic and then being mad when players consider the mechanic. They should just not put these type of games up then! Are they going to ban players that sit down at a must-hit jackpot that's closer now, too? To answer srenee though, I have seen people get banned for wandering around the casino in general without playing, and with AP games like this, there is competition which means you generally need to either circle these machines every 10 minutes or sit nearby and camp them, both things that are 'suspicious' and get attention from the staff. My guess is that if you're literally camping or circling for multiple hours a day continuously winning you'll get banned; if you casually check real quick once a day or play/lose on other games I doubt you'll have a problem, but then again you won't be winning very much if at all that way, either. Honestly, I kind of wish they didn't have slots like these in the first place, they bring out the absolute worst in people. These vultures don't have jobs and always stand behind the player and then they race to the slot, start yelling at each other, fight each other over who gets to obtain this small AP. Happened to me today. I casually see a AP so I sit down and this AP player tries to push me off the chair and stick their voucher in! Then they're mad I got the AP and start cussing at me and causing a scene. I've seen her cause multiple problems in the past too, and she's always circling the slots. There's always like 5-10 of these local scavengers at each casino, the ones that aren't as strict anyways. They usually end up getting in trouble in any decent place but this casino specifically is kinda sketchy. Anyways, recently I've taken a liking to trolling these parasites by telling the player that their next spin is a guaranteed win, the AP players waiting get so mad and walk away towards their next victim. Just annoying to see these innocent old folks that don't understand the game get taken advantage of.
OK. So do you live entirely off of advantage play? It sounds like you have been doing this for quite some time, and have gotten wiser and more experienced over the years. Would you say that this is a legitimate way to make a living?
I do not currently. But there have been times when I’ve been between jobs that I was fully able to support myself doing advantage play. It’s obscure & not as widely accepted/understood as telling people you’re a professional poker or blackjack player but I believe that it’s a legitimate & viable way to make a living. I run into semi-pro poker/bj players regularly in Vegas who either supplement their income or completely abandon tables because of advantage slot play.
@@advantageslots Thanks for the reply. I certainly agree that it is less understood compared to counting or poker. I trust the stories I hear about people being successful with counting and poker, but actually making a living with AP slots is still a new concept for me personally. So, it is very interesting to hear from people who have been successful. It sounds like it would be something great to add not only as beyond counting, but also as a far less confrontational way to make a go at it. Anyway, thanks again. Great videos.
@@ocpd23I play poker semi-professional and one of my poker buddies ran 2.4 million dollars through slots last year that many different casinos chasing progressives hammering Advantage plays and ended up ahead 300,000 so that's about 10% which is pretty good considering the slots are about 10% against you he was able to Buck the odds by only playing machines that have Progressive that must hit by a certain time other games where there's excessive wilds and people leaving spins where they're going to hit for sure on the next few spins Etc but he said you need a really deep bankroll and you can go through some large fluctuations
I never thought to look at the bubble coming up from the bottom. Thanks for info nugget.
Nice to see a AP SLOT on UA-cam that's open minded. It's not a secret anymore. Even ploppies know about it.
Gotta love the BIG bubble.
Do you have any data on column 4? I'm not sure bubbles there are +EV
any chance you’d be interested in coaching someone? i’d be willing to pay 😅
Is there an advance to change bet?
Is AP something a casino would ban someone for? Even though it's not illegal to finish playing out a game someone else left, but a casino would not like APs getting free money.
I've been warned at the Bellagio to not "bonus check" when I was checking machines. I think if you're more subtle, you should be okay, but most people aren't subtle
@@Tahngarth825 It's kind of ridiculous to install a game with a mechanic and then being mad when players consider the mechanic. They should just not put these type of games up then! Are they going to ban players that sit down at a must-hit jackpot that's closer now, too? To answer srenee though, I have seen people get banned for wandering around the casino in general without playing, and with AP games like this, there is competition which means you generally need to either circle these machines every 10 minutes or sit nearby and camp them, both things that are 'suspicious' and get attention from the staff. My guess is that if you're literally camping or circling for multiple hours a day continuously winning you'll get banned; if you casually check real quick once a day or play/lose on other games I doubt you'll have a problem, but then again you won't be winning very much if at all that way, either. Honestly, I kind of wish they didn't have slots like these in the first place, they bring out the absolute worst in people. These vultures don't have jobs and always stand behind the player and then they race to the slot, start yelling at each other, fight each other over who gets to obtain this small AP. Happened to me today. I casually see a AP so I sit down and this AP player tries to push me off the chair and stick their voucher in! Then they're mad I got the AP and start cussing at me and causing a scene. I've seen her cause multiple problems in the past too, and she's always circling the slots. There's always like 5-10 of these local scavengers at each casino, the ones that aren't as strict anyways. They usually end up getting in trouble in any decent place but this casino specifically is kinda sketchy. Anyways, recently I've taken a liking to trolling these parasites by telling the player that their next spin is a guaranteed win, the AP players waiting get so mad and walk away towards their next victim. Just annoying to see these innocent old folks that don't understand the game get taken advantage of.
where is that casino? las vegas?
Yes, this was recorded in Las Vegas
OK. So do you live entirely off of advantage play? It sounds like you have been doing this for quite some time, and have gotten wiser and more experienced over the years.
Would you say that this is a legitimate way to make a living?
I do not currently. But there have been times when I’ve been between jobs that I was fully able to support myself doing advantage play.
It’s obscure & not as widely accepted/understood as telling people you’re a professional poker or blackjack player but I believe that it’s a legitimate & viable way to make a living. I run into semi-pro poker/bj players regularly in Vegas who either supplement their income or completely abandon tables because of advantage slot play.
@@advantageslots Thanks for the reply. I certainly agree that it is less understood compared to counting or poker. I trust the stories I hear about people being successful with counting and poker, but actually making a living with AP slots is still a new concept for me personally.
So, it is very interesting to hear from people who have been successful. It sounds like it would be something great to add not only as beyond counting, but also as a far less confrontational way to make a go at it. Anyway, thanks again. Great videos.
@@ocpd23I play poker semi-professional and one of my poker buddies ran 2.4 million dollars through slots last year that many different casinos chasing progressives hammering Advantage plays and ended up ahead 300,000 so that's about 10% which is pretty good considering the slots are about 10% against you he was able to Buck the odds by only playing machines that have Progressive that must hit by a certain time other games where there's excessive wilds and people leaving spins where they're going to hit for sure on the next few spins Etc but he said you need a really deep bankroll and you can go through some large fluctuations