Achenars torture chamber was the scariest thing ever. I remember playing these games with my dad and also by myself. It was just a creepy experience finding the downfall of the boys and I remember being so sure Sirrus was the worse brother and then finding their rooms
How do these masterpieces not have more views? They're epic. Thank you for explaining all of this. I was thinking about taking another shot at the game since I'm old now and can understand everything. 😂. Haven't played it since it came out back in the 90s. I remember me and a friend rode our bikes to Wendy's and this old guy had just bought a copy of Myst and had it with him while he ate. He started to tell us about it which is how I find out about it. This was sometime back in the 90s.
I know these are several years old by now, but with the myst remaster in 2021, and the riven remake in June of this year, 2024, I've been re emphatuated with the myst saga again. Part 1 ended up in my feed, and I subbed because that, and this one so far, are golden. Here's to hoping the rest of your content is as intriguing as the myst videos are.
Hey there! I have to say, your explanations of the lore of Myst is fascinating and very, very well put together. I have made sure to subscribe, and eagerly await what you come up with next!
oh really? I've been watching Myst Lore content for yrs and only now YT finally decides to present me with this channel? Of course. Great work! Obviosly deserves x1000 more views!💯
I just finished Myst for the first time and now I've found these videos. I'm so glad you've put together such helpful explainations of the story, and it looks like you'll be releasing them as I'm finishing each of the games, which is just perfect! While I'm more curious about the larger plot of these games to begin with, I would eventually love to see an in depth look at all the ages, as reading about them was a really fascinating part of the game for me. :) Thanks for making these videos!
Starting in the mid-'90s, I played the Myst series for years. I still have the binder of 70 pages of notes, sketches, and comments on my conjectures about plausibilities and my mental state about playing the games. I miss the euphoria of finally "connecting" clues and solving puzzles. I know other game producers (including Cyan) have similar games, but I hesitate to play them because I don't want to sully my memories of playing Myst with "but it's not Myst" feelings. On another point, Mr. Necrovarius, your videos' story arcs and editing fully engage me. I teach Premiere Pro at a local college and, dude, you've got chops! Okay. Time to snuff the candle on this comment. (Yes, I loved the tension ("Will he blow it out? Will he?")-and-release ("Yes! I was right!") effect with which you ended this video.)
I am glad you enjoyed the live action and the explanation! Surprisingly I use Vegas Pro 15, and not Premier. Although someday I might swap. I am nearing the end of lore for Riven, so hopefully that should be out in October!
@@necrovarius225 Unless you need features in P/Pro not in Sony Vegas Pro, Mr. N, I suggest sticking with what works (so beautifully) for you. "If it ain't broke..." right? And thank you for the quick reply and for teasing the Riven lore video. (Some Myst-ers say Riven is the best one of the bunch; but my heart belongs to the original one with which I lost my video gamer's virginity.)
There was a writing somewhere about the two trap books in the library and how they were created for greedy adventurers. Atrus knew that something suspicious was going on and decided to create them as part of a security measure. They were on display even when the brothers were around and Atrus told the boys never to use them as they were dangerous ages, but the boys suspected that they were ages filled with gold and riches. In not telling his son's the truth about them, he not only fueled their curiosity, but succeeded in catching the greedy adventurers he was so worried about to begin with.
Also like how the music you used over the start of the epilogue is what you hear if you lose the game. It probably wasn’t intentional, but I thought that was quite funny
Another quick note: I read that apparently the trap books are actually just "artistic license" and a retcon. The books were still being written when the first two games were made, so the lore wasn't fully set in stone, but sounds and sights do not transmit through a linking panel. The real canonical answer is that Sirrus and Achinar were in normal full ages, but simply did not have linking books to get back, nor the ability to make new ones. The "stuck in a void" mechanic was kept to keep things simple for the gameplay and story of the game.
Oh cool! Nice videos by the way! I kind of went down the Myst rabbit hole. Again. Again... Again. As an unrelated musing, every so often I wonder what's happened to the D'ni (earth) descriptive book. I guess it doesn't matter, but since people can still make linking books to earth, that would imply a functioning descriptive book. So... Where is it? A riddle for the ages. @@necrovarius225
I know this is pretty old now, but I would be all over an in-depth examination of each Myst Age. There's surprisingly few high-quality vids like this on the Myst series, hope you still have an interest in doing essay style vids on it.
My favrorite bit in the series is the rant Atrus gives you if you link to K'veer *without* the right page. That said..Myst 4 does kinda retcon some of this, especially with the 'prison' ages and the character of the brothers.
Fantastic video. I'm planning on doing a plot-driven sort of video review on the Myst series within the next few months and I was planning to have an outfit that is coincidentally exactly the same as the one on your thumbnail LOL guess we had a similar idea.
Just a really small detail: the Black Ships comic has the brothers' names interchanged. So Achenar is supposed to be Sirrus, and Sirrus is supposed to be Achenar.
You misspelled/mispronounced Selenitic. You missed an "I" vowel. In a recent playthrough with Rand and one of the programmers of the newest Myst, they pronounced it as "Sel-e-NIT-ic". I had always pronounced it with a different emphasis "Sel-EN-i-tic". You learn something new every day. :) But it's 4 syllables either way. Great videos!
13:45 It's interesting to note that the Myst comic isn't canon, because Cyan didn't approve of the final script. One of the things they were opposed to was the fact that Sirrus and Achenar had their names swapped. So even if you consider the comics as part of the lore, I think it's pretty safe to think it was Sirrus who strayed first from their father's teachings.
@@necrovarius225 Achenar redeemed himself by sacrificing himself for his sister's sake. Also, if you look at their personalities both brothers are malevolent but Sirrius is clearly the leader between the two and is a proud sociopath. It seems that Achenar is like his grandfather with enough Atrus mixed in to be redeemable later on while Sirrius takes after the grandfather.
4:55 you say "Spire and Haven" but if i remember correctly Haven is the red book on the left and Spire is the blue book on the right. Just a small thing..
"I will be using RealMyst: Masterpiece Edition for reference, as it is the most Canon." Care to elaborate? I've always assumed Masterpiece Edition was just an updated visual remaster of the 2000 RealMyst (which has texture-work/atmosphere more accurate to the 1993 original.) I wasn't aware there would be any lore differences to speak of.
Well this was a joy to watch and a video going into detail on the Ages themselves would be much appreciated. Truly, this seems to be a year of Myst for me as I've finally got around to replaying the first game, am about to start playing the second, & decided to find some lore videos, which apparently only started to come out recently. Oh, and while searching for Myst Games on Steam, I found out that they just recently announced this... ua-cam.com/video/mtkJkQ3JztY/v-deo.html
@@necrovarius225 Hey, two days ago, Cyan's Official UA-cam Channel released a trailer for the new Virtual Reality Myst. Check it out! ua-cam.com/video/mtkJkQ3JztY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=IGN
These kids are fools. Why did they betray their father to serve the Black Ship Armada to conquer other Ages? They could have just learned how to make their own and have all the wealth and power they wanted in the Ages they created for themselves.
Finally after almost 20 years, I actually understand what happened in the only point-and-click I ever enjoyed as a kid. Thank you.
God that OOOHMMMM-SH-SH-SH sound is violently nostalgic
It's actually an edited recording of the toilet flushing in Cyan's office. This is not a joke; the first game was very low-budget.
Achenars torture chamber was the scariest thing ever. I remember playing these games with my dad and also by myself. It was just a creepy experience finding the downfall of the boys and I remember being so sure Sirrus was the worse brother and then finding their rooms
I would love a in-depth look at all the ages, reading about them was my favorite part of the games!
ua-cam.com/video/q9WUXlJjZfc/v-deo.html
Big theatre kid energy in that opening
m'lady
Please dear god don't stop this series. So damn good.
If you think this is good, wait until Riven comes out. Im working on the lore and explanation right now, and damn is it in depth!
How do these masterpieces not have more views? They're epic. Thank you for explaining all of this. I was thinking about taking another shot at the game since I'm old now and can understand everything. 😂. Haven't played it since it came out back in the 90s.
I remember me and a friend rode our bikes to Wendy's and this old guy had just bought a copy of Myst and had it with him while he ate. He started to tell us about it which is how I find out about it. This was sometime back in the 90s.
I know these are several years old by now, but with the myst remaster in 2021, and the riven remake in June of this year, 2024, I've been re emphatuated with the myst saga again. Part 1 ended up in my feed, and I subbed because that, and this one so far, are golden. Here's to hoping the rest of your content is as intriguing as the myst videos are.
Hey there! I have to say, your explanations of the lore of Myst is fascinating and very, very well put together. I have made sure to subscribe, and eagerly await what you come up with next!
Thank you! Im excited to finish the Riven Lore!
Necrovarius Can’t wait to see it!
oh really? I've been watching Myst Lore content for yrs and only now YT finally decides to present me with this channel? Of course.
Great work! Obviosly deserves x1000 more views!💯
I am editing the one for Myst 4 right now.
This is an amazing series! I loved playing these games as a kid, it's great to learn the story.
I'd be super interested in any myst lore content
Damn man, this is hardcore. Good work. Somebody get this in front of Rand Miller.
I just finished Myst for the first time and now I've found these videos. I'm so glad you've put together such helpful explainations of the story, and it looks like you'll be releasing them as I'm finishing each of the games, which is just perfect!
While I'm more curious about the larger plot of these games to begin with, I would eventually love to see an in depth look at all the ages, as reading about them was a really fascinating part of the game for me. :) Thanks for making these videos!
As I write this, we are setting up for day 2 of filming for the intro to the Riven Lore Video
Starting in the mid-'90s, I played the Myst series for years. I still have the binder of 70 pages of notes, sketches, and comments on my conjectures about plausibilities and my mental state about playing the games. I miss the euphoria of finally "connecting" clues and solving puzzles. I know other game producers (including Cyan) have similar games, but I hesitate to play them because I don't want to sully my memories of playing Myst with "but it's not Myst" feelings.
On another point, Mr. Necrovarius, your videos' story arcs and editing fully engage me. I teach Premiere Pro at a local college and, dude, you've got chops!
Okay. Time to snuff the candle on this comment. (Yes, I loved the tension ("Will he blow it out? Will he?")-and-release ("Yes! I was right!") effect with which you ended this video.)
I am glad you enjoyed the live action and the explanation! Surprisingly I use Vegas Pro 15, and not Premier. Although someday I might swap. I am nearing the end of lore for Riven, so hopefully that should be out in October!
@@necrovarius225 Unless you need features in P/Pro not in Sony Vegas Pro, Mr. N, I suggest sticking with what works (so beautifully) for you. "If it ain't broke..." right?
And thank you for the quick reply and for teasing the Riven lore video. (Some Myst-ers say Riven is the best one of the bunch; but my heart belongs to the original one with which I lost my video gamer's virginity.)
There was a writing somewhere about the two trap books in the library and how they were created for greedy adventurers. Atrus knew that something suspicious was going on and decided to create them as part of a security measure. They were on display even when the brothers were around and Atrus told the boys never to use them as they were dangerous ages, but the boys suspected that they were ages filled with gold and riches. In not telling his son's the truth about them, he not only fueled their curiosity, but succeeded in catching the greedy adventurers he was so worried about to begin with.
Luckily Atrus is a very wise and virtuous man because he could have easily created death traps instead of prison books.
Props to you for using that newMYST video design on the book flybys, always thought those visuals were really creative. Fantastic work once again!
Also like how the music you used over the start of the epilogue is what you hear if you lose the game. It probably wasn’t intentional, but I thought that was quite funny
these are great man, hope you continue the series.
really enjoyed this, not thought about these games for many years! looking forward to more content
Individual age videos definitely interests me. From all of the games in the series. Please do this when you have time.
Another quick note: I read that apparently the trap books are actually just "artistic license" and a retcon. The books were still being written when the first two games were made, so the lore wasn't fully set in stone, but sounds and sights do not transmit through a linking panel. The real canonical answer is that Sirrus and Achinar were in normal full ages, but simply did not have linking books to get back, nor the ability to make new ones. The "stuck in a void" mechanic was kept to keep things simple for the gameplay and story of the game.
I actually talk about this in our next video. Since it was a hot topic when the game came out.
Oh cool! Nice videos by the way! I kind of went down the Myst rabbit hole. Again. Again... Again.
As an unrelated musing, every so often I wonder what's happened to the D'ni (earth) descriptive book. I guess it doesn't matter, but since people can still make linking books to earth, that would imply a functioning descriptive book. So... Where is it? A riddle for the ages. @@necrovarius225
Spire and Haven are pure retconning.
I know this is pretty old now, but I would be all over an in-depth examination of each Myst Age. There's surprisingly few high-quality vids like this on the Myst series, hope you still have an interest in doing essay style vids on it.
Thank you, I am still working on these types if videos. Slow progress
My favrorite bit in the series is the rant Atrus gives you if you link to K'veer *without* the right page. That said..Myst 4 does kinda retcon some of this, especially with the 'prison' ages and the character of the brothers.
Thank you so much for your amazing work!
Keep an eye out this summer for Myst 3 Exile lore!
@@necrovarius225 looking forward to it! 😍
Fantastic video. I'm planning on doing a plot-driven sort of video review on the Myst series within the next few months and I was planning to have an outfit that is coincidentally exactly the same as the one on your thumbnail LOL guess we had a similar idea.
Would love to watch videos about the individual ages. Really enjoyed this. Keep them coming!
We are starting to film the next short film today. With production and time constraints, Im optimistic for a 3 week turn around.
Just a really small detail: the Black Ships comic has the brothers' names interchanged. So Achenar is supposed to be Sirrus, and Sirrus is supposed to be Achenar.
Yeah, I found that out later, as I was called out for saying Achenar was the brother who started it all.
So when they create an age do they also create the people? How else would the people inhabit these ages?
You misspelled/mispronounced Selenitic. You missed an "I" vowel. In a recent playthrough with Rand and one of the programmers of the newest Myst, they pronounced it as "Sel-e-NIT-ic". I had always pronounced it with a different emphasis "Sel-EN-i-tic". You learn something new every day. :) But it's 4 syllables either way. Great videos!
13:45 It's interesting to note that the Myst comic isn't canon, because Cyan didn't approve of the final script. One of the things they were opposed to was the fact that Sirrus and Achenar had their names swapped. So even if you consider the comics as part of the lore, I think it's pretty safe to think it was Sirrus who strayed first from their father's teachings.
You are absolutely correct. Although I can believe that either of them started it for how evil they are.
@@necrovarius225 Achenar redeemed himself by sacrificing himself for his sister's sake. Also, if you look at their personalities both brothers are malevolent but Sirrius is clearly the leader between the two and is a proud sociopath.
It seems that Achenar is like his grandfather with enough Atrus mixed in to be redeemable later on while Sirrius takes after the grandfather.
Bro....spoilers...lol
Do you think you'll cover the other two novels as well? Book of Ti'ana would be quite a video!
Once I reread them probably...
@@necrovarius225
Bear in mind that the retconning of the location of the cleft changed the pronunciation of Tadjinar to "tahd-khee-NAHR".
It's too bad the most recent version of Myst for vr didn't include that bonus age of Rime.
Oh, I didnt know that. That is quite the problem
4:55 you say "Spire and Haven" but if i remember correctly Haven is the red book on the left and Spire is the blue book on the right. Just a small thing..
"I will be using RealMyst: Masterpiece Edition for reference, as it is the most Canon."
Care to elaborate? I've always assumed Masterpiece Edition was just an updated visual remaster of the 2000 RealMyst (which has texture-work/atmosphere more accurate to the 1993 original.) I wasn't aware there would be any lore differences to speak of.
There was a few things added such as Rime, and a plaque for Anna's grave
Well this was a joy to watch and a video going into detail on the Ages themselves would be much appreciated.
Truly, this seems to be a year of Myst for me as I've finally got around to replaying the first game, am about to start playing the second, & decided to find some lore videos, which apparently only started to come out recently.
Oh, and while searching for Myst Games on Steam, I found out that they just recently announced this...
ua-cam.com/video/mtkJkQ3JztY/v-deo.html
How did the pages get scattered throughout different places? Did Atrus rip them out and place them in their respective sons' rooms?
According to one theory, before Atrus went to kveer, he removed the pages and placed them in the other ages. Why he put them where he did, noone knows
@@necrovarius225 Hey, two days ago, Cyan's Official UA-cam Channel released a trailer for the new Virtual Reality Myst. Check it out!
ua-cam.com/video/mtkJkQ3JztY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=IGN
@6:13 It's actually Selenetic not Selentic.
It interests me
I thought these comics were no longer considered canon due to the cancellation since dark horse made errors with the brothers names?
You are correct, I mention that in the next video, which is in the editing phase right now. Hopefully out by december
Can you tell me where these closing remarks @20:46 appear in the game?
They don't. The live action segments are our interpretation of the stranger and his journey.
@@necrovarius225 thank you, I was confused :)
13:38 is that Brad Dourif?
Yes, he played Saavedro in Myst 3. We talk more about him in Part 4.
Has anyone here read Berserk? The leader of the black ships looks like Donovan 😬
new sub!
Glad to have you.
The steampunk metaverse
These kids are fools.
Why did they betray their father to serve the Black Ship Armada to conquer other Ages?
They could have just learned how to make their own and have all the wealth and power they wanted in the Ages they created for themselves.
Where did you find these comic books?
There is an archive of them online.
viewcomiconline.com/myst-the-book-of-the-black-ships-issue-1/
That's for this question. I added the link to the Video Description as well.
Selenitic, not Selentic.
Yup
Part 3?
We had some major setbacks. We are working through them.
@@necrovarius225 ETA?
As soon as we get our new equipment in we will start filming the live action scenes.
@@necrovarius225 they're a nice touch. I suggest you don't go overboard and only use them in intro and outro. Just my feedback.
Thats our plan. We wanted to have a separate narrative for into/outro and keep the main part of the video for lore and such.
🔴Trump and 🔵Biden as the brothers ?
Lol
Selenitic, not Selentic.
My bad.