Rustival broke 2 of my cars! Mini ABS sensor & Alfa 145 thermostat (again)
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- I took 4 cars to Rustival last month, thats a total of over 1200 miles driven so no surprise there were casualties...the R50 Mini has more lights than Vegas on the dash and one was real (ABS warning) and the Alfa nearly dodnt make it home when the recently changed thermostat started coming apart...
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you have the best collection of cars of all the modern classic automotive youtubers
RE ABS, as with most cars its generally the wiring in the arch area. Particularly if there is a section of wire which moves up and down with the suspension. Eventually the copper snaps internally. Even though the wire may visibly look ok. So check wiring back using a multimeter on continuity. Cut out wire section and replace as needed.
Swap the front sensors first before buying one you know the other one works and see what happens same with a lot of other bits saves unnecessary expense.😊
Good to see you wearing PPE Matt. 😎🙏👍
Hey Matt, the reason you had a new tire pressure warning light on the Mini is it uses the ABS wheel speed sensor to measure if one wheel is spinning too fast, as low tire pressure will cause the wheel to be slightly smaller in circumference. So it’s basically two separate symptoms of the same problem 😅
Rolling radius 👌
That makes a lot of sense!
@@ianjenkins4641that’s the term I was looking for!
Could be the tone ring as you say or a wheel bearing. If the bearing has play, then the assembly could be spinning with a wobble on it and thus digging a groove into the ABS sensor.
I love your easy fixes 😉, keep up the good work ! 👍🏴
Crazy to think the “new” minis are becoming classics
Something something about the quality of parts.... I remember the recently replaced aftermarket thermostat on my 146 failing after a month.. Stuck closed(!) and nearly overheated, fun times...
It's another one of those 5 minute job thingies that just blow up into a whole 'right I need to get some new parts things rendering the car undrivable in some cases. I remember changing an 'A' series thermostat that the housing just would not budge in the late 80's that ended up with the housing needing to be replaced following eventual removal. The next time I had to replace a thermostat on a different 'A' series engine having bought a new housing at the same time as the thermostat (expecting a re-run of the previous fun) it took five minutes and I need not have got a new housing as it all came apart brilliantly. Anyway great progress on the Alfa. I've yet to experience the old Mini circus of doom fault light syndrome so I might just leave these to one side on possible future classic purchases. I'd like another classic Mini but my current want is a 2CV at some point. Many thanks for sharing.
Replacing the abs sensor was an easy job like you said! 😂😂😂 but sadly it wasn’t the problem! Probably the reading ring is corroded and damaged the old sensor as you noticed ! I don’t know if you can replace it separate from the wheel bearing!? Most of the time they are integrated in the wheel bearing! You can test the reading ring with a simple tool! It’s a little transparant card with metal dust in it ! When you lay the card on the ring you can see if the 0:20 tiny magnets are intact! You can see the magnets then because the metal dust collects itself above the magnets! Good luck Matt and 👍🏻👍🏻 🆙 like allways!
Good progress Matt 👍
Nice repair on the 145! Those cheap ABS sensors are crap, always get the OEM or A brand ones. Also check the wiring and the reluctor ring. Hope the garage can solve it. Nice tinkering video, always like these. I miss the weekly ''Going for a drive'' review videos, any coming up soon?
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Check out the ABS ring gear. May be rusty. The sensor generates pulses from this. Keep up the good work.
Yes, rust underneath it might crack the ring and mess up the sensor and also give bad signals! Turning the driveshaft to check the ring is a good advise.
I changed the thermostat on my 147 1.6 and I'm sure there was a bleed screw even if it was 8 years ago.
Yours may have gone pop because you didn't bleed it properly 3 years ago and only doing short journeys didn't bring the problem to the surface until now.
Also run your heater on hot when doing the bleed , just open the screw on the radiator to bleed .
The Rovers have a bleed screw but Im fairly sure these are self bleeding
What a good idea to have a aluminum housing with a plastic hose connection swaged into the end. What could possibly go wrong? I haven't done much work on Mini's but if the old sensor has that wear, then something is loose on the hub sensor ring and that's why the light is remaining on. Hopefully it hasn't damaged the new part.
It's a crap idea!
As yourself and others have said, check the reluctor ring, these seems to be a common issue with German cars. Great content as always Matt cheers. Steve.
Use paper clips to extend into shrouded connectors with your multi meter.
Great little tinkering video on the Alfa and the Mini, i think you jinxed yourself with having a banner saying congrats you have not broken down!! On the fence by the furious fleet.
Someone else posted a photo of their car being loaded on an AA truck in front of that banner!
Behr best thermostats put one on my 156 fantasy blue 8 years ago no problem:)
Have a look at the wiring loom up by the ABS pump - it has a habit of chaffing through and losing comms to the wheel sensors.
Cheap ABS sensors are a false economy on the R50 series Mini. Stick with branded ones - I used to use Delphi on mine when they died - cheap ones would never let the codes clear.
I don't know if that's how it works on a mini, but a lot of TPMS systems rather than using the tyre valves, they actually use the abs wheel speed sensors to determine if a tyre has lost pressure. So if an ABS sensor fails it could throw up the TPMS warning light as well as the ABS warning light.
could be the sensor ring, and that has broken the sensor, that happened on my old Seat Altea.
Often wondered what the difference between modern coolant and Ethylene Glycol antifreeze and water solution is apart from a good few quid.
corrosion inhibitors are a big part of it, engines can fur up internally with plain water
@@furiousdriving I didn't mean using plain H2O but the difference between an AF solution and the ready to use stuff. Ethylene Glycol does inhibit corrosion but is highly flammable and toxic (causes symptoms of being very drunk, then death). Many an RAF Pilot discovered the flammability when his Merlin engine erupted in flame from a coolant leak, 100% Ethylene Glycol.
Glad I noticed the tell tale puddle under the Alfa and glad I found you to tell you.
yes, that was a lucky spot!
Did you only paint the front half of the calipers? Currently for the F series mini we use a lil bit of grease for putting the sensor in.
Clean the ring ;) for the ABS issue.
I didnt paint any of the calipers!
Matt, as a mechanic in Australia the same rules apply. For critical parts such as ABS, coolant parts etc never ever use cheap and nasty parts. Always always buy the OEM or a higher quality branded product. I can tell you from my own experience of running a shop for the last 9 years.
I did a wheel speed sensor on my Mk1 Octavia a few months back (i had to drill and hammer it out, but thats another story) and recall i had to sort of reprogramme it in with my VAGCOM diagnostics to get the car systems to recognise the new sensor and get the warning light to go out, it was a bit more involved that just clearing the code. Im not sure if Minis would be the similar? 🤔 Also perhaps check the distance of the sensor tip from the reluctor ring, they can be quite sensitive to spacing on some cars. No experience with minis though!
I had a thermostat fail in the same place on my Spider, same engine but after only a month. That plastic bit came straight off, luckily on my driveway when I got back from a drive. Must be a bad batch out there
On the Alfa: I hate plastic parts that are exposed to hot coolant. I’ve had a lot of problems with that on my son’s Passat. On the Mini: At least the sensor didn’t break off in the knuckle/hub. That’s what I was expecting. Hondas are bad to do that, even if they don’t appear to be rusty. Good luck sorting that out.
For the Mini, depends on whether it's a hard code, or a soft one, Might just have to disconnect the Battery, and let it wait ten minutes, then reconnect...
Front left has always been position when sitting in drivers
Common BMW issue is those reluctor rings, I had exact same issue, thought it was the sensor replaced that and still no good, ended up having to replace the whole hub assembly on a 325d, and what a pain it was 😂
Check the abs ring it may be corroded reason why the original has worn away
Yipee i' here again and loving it.
Sounds a bit crazy but check the ABS pins on the car haven't bent, had that once when I wasn't concentrating and bent a pin put the plug together. Alternatively swap the OSF sensor for the NSF and see if the readings swap over, least then you can rule out a dodgy new sensor. Check for any broken wires on the car end loom, could be an electrical issue instead. Know the ABS rings can swell up and (sometimes) split on BMWs (mainly rwd not newer 1 series being fwd) and they give iffy readings causing ABS issues but never had it on a Mini (R50 or newer).
I dont think so, the sensor pins were fine when I took them out to check and the receiver on the car side is fully shrouded so cant bend
fab mate
the only non-wear and tear part to fail (at about 40,000 miles) on my 9yr old 90,000 mile Fiesta was a.... plastic thermostat housing. Plastic parts have no place on engines
Lo Matt, Re Mini, Just wondering how ye get it through MOT wae Xmas tree lights on the dash. Last time i did that ma tester went nuts and requested that i took the vehicle away and bring it back without the lights. Finally for now That replacement part for Alpha. When you think about it youv'e got a plastic feed pipe bonded to an aluminium base with a thermostat inside it. That's asking for trouble . If that car was a daily you would be out of pocket with replacements you would need to buy. Bonkers 😳 Laters
Can you buy just the toothed ring for the ABS? I suspect with my Daewoo you have to change the whole CV joint. I suppose if those teeth go rusty it could take up the clearance and start rubbing on the sensor.
yes, its not expensive
The Alfa fixed worked but the new Mini not quite fixed
Wire brush your ring 👍
Have currently got the same problem on 2002 cooper abs light comes but only occasionally at the moment. Agree totally most lights on early r50 just ignore lol the airbag I must have reset 12 times in 6 years of ownership. Also have a fault with window wipers coming on by themselves when weather is hot and not turning off when it's damp outside super annoying, any ideas?
Check the earth on the wipers, mine has a new one straight to the battery someone has made in the past! Also check the airbag wiring under the drivers seat, a common fix is to disconnect the airbag and fit an LED or resistor to the circuit so the car thinks its still there...and then dont crash!
@@furiousdriving Brilliant thank you so much
An OBD reader just points towards a fault. At college I cut one ABS sensor wire, the students have to find fault, so test sensor for resistance, then use either Oscilloscope, or DMM with high speed refresh. Never just replace a part without doing a two stage diagnosis!
The problem I found here is the pins are 5 or 6 cm down inside the plug so I cant get a tester onto them
Always a way to test, straighten a paper clip, need to be inventive.
I was always taught that you can't test the internal resistance of a hall effect ABS sensor, ie. a sensor that reads off of a magnetic reluctor wheel
If you do, you will destroy it.
However, you CAN test an analogue abs sensor, ie. A sensor that reads off of a toothed ring
Did you go for a drive after re-fitting the ABS sensor? It may need a few rotations at a certain rpm to reset and re-calibrate.
Yes, far enough to rotate it a few times
far enough to register it
Has your wheel bearing got excess play causing the wear on the abs sensor?
more likely furred up
who saw that coming ? LMAO.
Rustival wrecked my volvo 240, clutch is shot and can't put into gear while running. Drove to and from with no problems, until the next day
Well, Magneti Marelli does not realy manufacture termostats, they just rebagde them. Their thing is more electronics, headlights and such. I would chose some manufacturer that specilises in part that I need. For example EPS or Calorstat (Vernet) or similar.
Unfortunately no one else seems to sell them for this car
I had a similar problem with my Peugeot 3008 and the front wheel sensor. It turned out to be the EGR valve was gummed up and sent an error message to the computer which threw the fault code to reduce power!
thats a weird and very French problem!
@@furiousdriving That is why the car is sporting a HubNut sticker saying "Because French"!
Just done the abs sensor on my wifes 06 mini , bit of a pain as the sensor snapped , tryed the the screw a screw in and pull out , but it was in there so tight the screw snapped lol , had to take the hub off in the end pushed the drive shaft out drilled the old sensor out , cleaned up the sensor housing with a rotary tool so the sensor went in nice and easy. Lol funny enough my wife was looking at alfa mitos today for her new car , are alfa the same pain in the butt like mini can be i done a lot off work on her mini 😂😂😂 it might be the ring m8 when i changed my wifes one it worked straight away. It was also a cheap Ebay part as well
Blackpool illuminations 😂😂😂😂
Another good video Mr Furious. I hate the Alfa. It obviously hates you too. I'd be interested in a cost per mile table for all of your cars (excluding fuel). I suspect the Alfa would be at the very top.
The reluctor ring will be swollen with rust causing damage to the sensor.
looks like thats what Ill be doing in the next few days..
You may have scuffed up the new sensor now though. 😮
In other words, keep an extra thermostat, the tools needed and a can of antifreeze in the trunk of the Alfa all the time! ;)
left and right on a car is ALWAYS as you sit in the car
God Morning from Cologne Germany
It's your Mercedes W123 in your Garage?
Hello! Yes it is tucked away in there
Do alfa thermostats work. I thought that was part of the design
side of car is always from the drivers seat
good to double check though
Were those Alfa thermostat's originally an all metal construction ? 3 years and 1000 miles of use is terrible. Also should those bolts be that tight?
Good question, Ive not seen an original. I think its more corrosion on the threads than tightness
You might need to drive the Mini a bit to get that sensor to register with the computer.
possibly, but with no MOT thats a bit tricky...
@@furiousdriving Jack it up with both front wheels of the ground and put it in gear!
Can't believe you set yourself up for a fail. You've been around that Hubnut fellow too much lately!
You need a new wheel bearing comes has a hub
The Volvo could not manage 300 miles on a single tank? Either the 2 litre is dreadfully thirsty by nature or there is something very wrong. My guess is that the O² sensor is old and dirty and/or the catalytic converter is plugged. My 90 240 wagon, 2.3 litre and automatic gearbox, would do that and quite a bit more on a clean run like that. It would, at a pinch, do just over 450 miles on a single tank.
Here's hoping the Alpha is working properly now. It may be that it needed renewing early, but still easily done. As for the Mini, with that vintage of Bosch electrics, you may need to invest in the Mini original Bosch part, not an azin knock off Bosch or aftermarket piece. Multiplexing the electrics is a right daft idea!
Guess again - it has neither of those! Mechanical injection and no cat. They are just very thirsty cars
😮😮 5 minute job 😮 quick fix 😮 🤫🤫🤫😂😂
14:42 🐔
I've bought a Magneti Marelli part for my car. It said Made in China on the box. 'nuff said.
"How hard can it be?". Ha Ha Ha Ha. . .
The Alfa needs a good spanking on a long road trip 🇮🇹🍀😂
Ive been thinking the same thing..
@@furiousdriving maybe a fast dash to Wales or Yorkshire for a nice weekend in a romantic pub with Mrs F👌
Marelli is now owned by the Chinese therefore no longer purchased for my fleet
OMG Matt you have just been put on the official Lancashire Blackpool Hitlist for DIABOLICAL IMPERSONATIONS of the region accents 😂😂, are you nuts , Blackpool people have longer memories than the average elephant and woe betide you next time you book into a renowned Blackpool B&B 😁 you never learn lol 😂.
I thought a Blackpool B&B was the punishment (ducks and runs away!!)
@@furiousdriving Your on REALLY dangerous ground now Matt 😂
Parts missile operator
Volvo's forever 😊.