I LOVED this video! Most of the surname rules used in your culture align with my beliefs and my cultural traditions, as well. It's very nice to hear someone eloquently and respectfully explain all that. I ADORE the way you speak! Not only your lovely accent but also the calm and respectful way you address both the subject and your listeners. You are very informative and also maintain a very courteous manner. Kudos to you! Thank you for making this video to educate others. 😊
Thokoza gogo. This topic hit home. I'm suffering the perils of using the wrong surname and it has challenged my life in so many ways. I am glad that there are ways to circumnavigate that, which I'm tending too. It has been a roller coaster ride and I pray that one day that the "umbango" the clash of the ancestors will soon cease. Thank you so much for your enlightening vlogs, they go a looong way. Stay blessed.💖👏🙌
I often have precognition dreams even in childhood. I started yoga and meditation my dreams got more intense . I started getting "confusions" autistic characteristics and mental disturbances as well as as strong pressure around my head
Thokoza Gogo, thank you for such an insightful and important subject that touches our identity. I grew up using my mother's surname (Vilakazi) because I was brought up there. Fortunately, when my father was still alive - the traditional ceremony of introducing us to my father's side was done. Both my grandparents, from my mother's side, gave their blessing for it to be done. In fact, my grandmother encouraged it to be done while she was still alive. The house (home) that I have built for my mother and siblings is now known as the KwaButhelezi home, my father's surname. Now here is the tricky part, Gogo - I would like to change the surname in my ID book from my mother's side (Vilakazi) to my father's surname (Buthelezi) before I get married so that my wife and kids can use my father's surname. The problem is, I am known both in business and academia world with my mother's surname, Vilakazi. Is it a problem to go through a hassle of changing the surname in the ID or should I leave it like that and carry on using my mother's surname (Vilakazi) while my wife and kids use my father's surname, Buthelezi?
Camagu makhosi, this is a very challenging and deep issue you are touching on. One can be from maternal side but ingulo(ubizo) be from paternal side and thats where reality hits us the most. You realise there ba umtwana ngokayise wow camagu kodwa. Sidedise ubumnyama kuvele ukukhaya in our families and abantsundu. 👏
Thokoza Gogo this was so enlightening, I have so many questions regarding my situation. I was married (court wedding) therefore "protocol was not observed". Now I'm happily divorced and my children (boys) use my surname. I'm wondering if this is going to be a problem for them in the future (Umbango)? Makhosi.
Makhosi, it is quite likely. What you need to do is check in with your kids and with the families and with your spirit for the truth. This is such a common issue that arises, what you don't want is to make a decision in haste that will be regretted in future. Consult with your elders and proceed with a consciousness of the gravity of your situation.
Wooh 2:00 - 2:39... I am in a perplexed state. I am brought up in a family where all my bloodline that married changed to their marital names incl. myself. 1. Is this African in entirety or limited to a tribe? 2. When and how did Africans inherit the practice of changing surnames then? 3. Does it then mean umbango will happen if a girl child marries and changes surnames?
I am definitely the reverse. My parents had me before wedlock. I was ten when they got married. My brother was 2 years old. We both have my mother's surname. We did both have imbeleko, on our dads side however - a few years later.
Thokoza Gogo. Eish i don't know where to start but here we go, so i was led to your channel and i love it. So the issue here is my understanding of ancestors are those who lived before connected to via blood lines and they become your guides when they pass ! Does that mean they don't incarnate back here ? And if they do can u still call out there name ?
Thokoza Here is ma story, my mother is not using his biological surname, that is because his father was not using his paternal surname too but he was using his maternal surname. My father is also not using his biological surname, but his uncle surname, that is because he never met his father. I met ma father last year on the 24 December 2018, that means that I personally had to use my mother's surname of which is also not her surname looking at how she got the surname. How do I go about fixing things if need be? Will that affect me or my children ? What do you think I can do ? Thokoza
Thokozo Gogo, mina my situation is a bit difficult. My grandmother (mother of my father) the time her parents passed away she was adopted and she changed her surname and took the surname yalana bamu adopt khona then her children (my father included) took their mother's surname (the one of adoption) then my grandmother got married they are left with this surname of adoption...then when I was born, I was born out of wedlock but still took lesbongo esisebenziswa ubaba. i Complimented indaba yami...ngicela usizo ukuth mele ngenze esiphi isbongo sam
It's a difficult one without knowing the details, please see the latest video if it can help. Otherwise a consultation to better hear from those who walk with you may be best.
Then you find a situation where ugogo dies without telling ubaba who his father was, what his real name is... and the children have to carry on the mystery. Thokoza Gogo. Thank you for sharing your wisdom
The surname issue confuses me deeply. Shaka was known as uShaka kaSenzangakhona. What was his surname? It seems like surnames didn’t exist during Shaka’s time... so what did they do during Shaka’s time? Cause when we talk about precolonial history then this is a pretty good timeframe to unpack (early 1800s)
@@TheEnergyHealingCoach I did a bit more research and unfortunately that's incorrect. Africans had last names but not surnames. There's a difference between a last name and a surname. For example: Osama Bin Laden does not have a surname. Bin Laden is not a surname, it's a dynamic last name. "Bin Laden" translates to "of Laden" or "son of Laden". Surnames are a European construct that's somehow become the foundation of African spirituality. Very worrying and confusing. Europeans themselves did not always have surnames, they invented them for tax purposes.
Thokoza Gogo, My father died not knowing his identical father, He was adopted by Nkosi, so as we grow the issue of surname starts affects us, as you've mention the issue of being jealous of the ancestors, so I was wondering how do we solve this problem as the family
Makhosi, that answer is not a formula. It requires a consultation. To speak privately or to book a consultation please use the link below. I currently only offer online consultation. There are two options available: Ukuhlola emoyeni & Ukuhlola ebunzimeni: this is only open to those whom are unemployed, black & currently living in SA. The offering here is a sliding scale of whatever you can afford at the time. Makwande okuhle kodwa🙏🏾 sangomasociety.simplybook.me/v2/#
Thokoza gogo. Your videos are always insightful, makwande. May you please do a video about reincarnation and tell us whether it exists or not. This is something i have been grappling with and the video about the termination of pregnancy had me thinking about how the spiritual contract could be a part of reincarnation.
Mom and dad got married at a young age, while ma was still in school. They did everything culturally, ilobola nemisebenzi . Dad passed away and then my mom got remarried in court, her husband insisted that we all use his surname. It caused a lot of friction with the Ancestors, they come in dreams saying they don't recognise the name we using. We in the process of changing our surname. Thank you Gogo for this vid
Thokoza Gogo. My parents were married and got devorced after some few years then we changed our surname to our mother's and moved back to her home. does that have any problem if i use her surname?
Thokoza Gogo... Ok my mom is using her fathers Surname which we all using as her Kids...the problem is we were told ukuthi sishintshe sibize her monthers surname coz her parents bashada ecourt abashadanga ngokwesintu...now we dont know kuth whag needs to be done ngokwesiko ukubuyela esbongweni saka Gogo please help me
I mean my innerstanding of reincarnation is that when ur soul has to relearn things you come back here on earth, so how do we know if a member has turned into a good or bad ancestor or stack somewhere in the realm of the spirit ?
My father's family line is causing so much confusion and pain in my life. I have been deciding on changing the name to my mother's maiden name because her father and stepmother and sister have done so much for me and my sister. I'm ready to cut the dead weight
Makhosi. This is something that would be specific to you and your ancestors. To speak privately or to book a consultation please use the link below. I currently only offer online consultation. There are two options available: Ukuhlola emoyeni & Ukuhlola ebunzimeni: this is only open to those whom are unemployed, black & currently living in SA. The offering here is a sliding scale of whatever you can afford at the time. Makwande okuhle kodwa🙏🏾 sangomasociety.simplybook.me/v2/#
I'm an illegitimate female , i.e- born out of wedlock and rejected while still in the womb! So naturally I use my mum's surname. So if i heard you correctly- it's not a big deal that I don't use my father's surname?
when you say becoming apart of the maternal family forever does that mean that you reincarnate only into your mothers line again? Meaning her forefathers become yours and Such?
Dogs often represent ancestors in the dream space. But can mean something different depending on your family's totems. To get more insight on specific dreams you can book a dream interpretation here sangomasociety.simplybook.me/v2/#
Camagu Makhosi, this is so interesting. I have been using my mother's surname because she and my father were not married but my father's family did imbeleko for me. Earlier this even I was talking with my mother and she asked if I don't want to change my surname to my dad's family, or my step father's because he's the one who brought me up and has been in my life since I was a year old. I felt very conflicted because I wondered how my step father would feel about me taking my biological father's surname when he's done so much for me, and I know how much this would mean to him. So I was left very conflicted. I did a midnight candle prayer for the first time tonight and after that I came to UA-cam and that's when I saw this video. I feel very much more enlightened now and I'm thankful I was lead to your page.
yonke impendulo isemsamo. mina nginokuthi umuntu maka ngene emsamo azilile ashaye isgubu ahlabelela kuze kuvele impendulo, u3 akuthole usemsamo umemeza idlozi lize likuphilele. this is the way I've found the deepest secrets hidden from me without anyone alive telling me. Ungumgoma manje, ikhiphe ngengoma Gogo, themba, Ungalilahli ithemba ekubeni idlozi liyakuphilela.
I LOVED this video! Most of the surname rules used in your culture align with my beliefs and my cultural traditions, as well. It's very nice to hear someone eloquently and respectfully explain all that.
I ADORE the way you speak! Not only your lovely accent but also the calm and respectful way you address both the subject and your listeners. You are very informative and also maintain a very courteous manner. Kudos to you!
Thank you for making this video to educate others. 😊
Thokoza gogo. This topic hit home. I'm suffering the perils of using the wrong surname and it has challenged my life in so many ways. I am glad that there are ways to circumnavigate that, which I'm tending too. It has been a roller coaster ride and I pray that one day that the "umbango" the clash of the ancestors will soon cease. Thank you so much for your enlightening vlogs, they go a looong way. Stay blessed.💖👏🙌
Makudede ubumnyama kuvele ukukhanya 🙌🏾 may your journey through this bring peace indeed.
I often have precognition dreams even in childhood. I started yoga and meditation my dreams got more intense . I started getting "confusions" autistic characteristics and mental disturbances as well as as strong pressure around my head
Am I the only one who always hits the like and save button even before the video ends?
Like and save PEPPA! 💕 I'm glad the series is bringing you something you want to revisit.
I am happy to watch this video because it gave me clue
Thokoza Gogo, thank you for such an insightful and important subject that touches our identity. I grew up using my mother's surname (Vilakazi) because I was brought up there. Fortunately, when my father was still alive - the traditional ceremony of introducing us to my father's side was done. Both my grandparents, from my mother's side, gave their blessing for it to be done. In fact, my grandmother encouraged it to be done while she was still alive. The house (home) that I have built for my mother and siblings is now known as the KwaButhelezi home, my father's surname. Now here is the tricky part, Gogo - I would like to change the surname in my ID book from my mother's side (Vilakazi) to my father's surname (Buthelezi) before I get married so that my wife and kids can use my father's surname. The problem is, I am known both in business and academia world with my mother's surname, Vilakazi. Is it a problem to go through a hassle of changing the surname in the ID or should I leave it like that and carry on using my mother's surname (Vilakazi) while my wife and kids use my father's surname, Buthelezi?
Camagu makhosi, this is a very challenging and deep issue you are touching on. One can be from maternal side but ingulo(ubizo) be from paternal side and thats where reality hits us the most. You realise there ba umtwana ngokayise wow camagu kodwa. Sidedise ubumnyama kuvele ukukhaya in our families and abantsundu. 👏
Makhosi 🙌🏾 makwande okuhle kodwa
Greeting my i am enlighten with your wisdom
thokoza gogo. my name is my power ,THANKS
Thokoza Gogo this was so enlightening, I have so many questions regarding my situation. I was married (court wedding) therefore "protocol was not observed". Now I'm happily divorced and my children (boys) use my surname. I'm wondering if this is going to be a problem for them in the future (Umbango)? Makhosi.
Makhosi, it is quite likely. What you need to do is check in with your kids and with the families and with your spirit for the truth. This is such a common issue that arises, what you don't want is to make a decision in haste that will be regretted in future. Consult with your elders and proceed with a consciousness of the gravity of your situation.
Wooh 2:00 - 2:39... I am in a perplexed state.
I am brought up in a family where all my bloodline that married changed to their marital names incl. myself.
1. Is this African in entirety or limited to a tribe?
2. When and how did Africans inherit the practice of changing surnames then?
3. Does it then mean umbango will happen if a girl child marries and changes surnames?
I am definitely the reverse. My parents had me before wedlock. I was ten when they got married. My brother was 2 years old. We both have my mother's surname. We did both have imbeleko, on our dads side however - a few years later.
Sounds like you are your father's children all protocol observed.
Thokoza Gogo. Eish i don't know where to start but here we go, so i was led to your channel and i love it. So the issue here is my understanding of ancestors are those who lived before connected to via blood lines and they become your guides when they pass ! Does that mean they don't incarnate back here ? And if they do can u still call out there name ?
An eye opener for sure 🙏🏾
Thokoza
Here is ma story, my mother is not using his biological surname, that is because his father was not using his paternal surname too but he was using his maternal surname. My father is also not using his biological surname, but his uncle surname, that is because he never met his father. I met ma father last year on the 24 December 2018, that means that I personally had to use my mother's surname of which is also not her surname looking at how she got the surname. How do I go about fixing things if need be? Will that affect me or my children ? What do you think I can do ?
Thokoza
Thokoza Gogo. This is so helpful🖤🖤🖤
Thank you honey. you are appreciated.
Love you Neo.
It makes sense for my son. He has both surnames but that’s always been a problem ...
Make sure that the neccesary ceremony is done for the surname to be aligned with the ancestors, whether it be maternal or paternal.
Thokozo Gogo, mina my situation is a bit difficult. My grandmother (mother of my father) the time her parents passed away she was adopted and she changed her surname and took the surname yalana bamu adopt khona then her children (my father included) took their mother's surname (the one of adoption) then my grandmother got married they are left with this surname of adoption...then when I was born, I was born out of wedlock but still took lesbongo esisebenziswa ubaba. i Complimented indaba yami...ngicela usizo ukuth mele ngenze esiphi isbongo sam
It's a difficult one without knowing the details, please see the latest video if it can help. Otherwise a consultation to better hear from those who walk with you may be best.
Then you find a situation where ugogo dies without telling ubaba who his father was, what his real name is... and the children have to carry on the mystery. Thokoza Gogo. Thank you for sharing your wisdom
Thengani bonke abantwana ngaohansi kwesibongo sika gogo. There's something there that doesn't need to be found. You have a surname, trust it.
The surname issue confuses me deeply.
Shaka was known as uShaka kaSenzangakhona.
What was his surname?
It seems like surnames didn’t exist during Shaka’s time... so what did they do during Shaka’s time?
Cause when we talk about precolonial history then this is a pretty good timeframe to unpack (early 1800s)
@@TheEnergyHealingCoach I did a bit more research and unfortunately that's incorrect.
Africans had last names but not surnames. There's a difference between a last name and a surname.
For example: Osama Bin Laden does not have a surname.
Bin Laden is not a surname, it's a dynamic last name. "Bin Laden" translates to "of Laden" or "son of Laden".
Surnames are a European construct that's somehow become the foundation of African spirituality. Very worrying and confusing.
Europeans themselves did not always have surnames, they invented them for tax purposes.
Ouch! This hit home 😪
Don't be saddened, now you have an idea of what may be happening in your life, you know the starting point of how you may be able to address it.
Thokoza Gogo, My father died not knowing his identical father, He was adopted by Nkosi, so as we grow the issue of surname starts affects us, as you've mention the issue of being jealous of the ancestors, so I was wondering how do we solve this problem as the family
Makhosi, that answer is not a formula. It requires a consultation. To speak privately or to book a consultation please use the link below.
I currently only offer online consultation.
There are two options available:
Ukuhlola emoyeni
&
Ukuhlola ebunzimeni: this is only open to those whom are unemployed, black & currently living in SA. The offering here is a sliding scale of whatever you can afford at the time.
Makwande okuhle kodwa🙏🏾
sangomasociety.simplybook.me/v2/#
Thokoza gogo. Your videos are always insightful, makwande.
May you please do a video about reincarnation and tell us whether it exists or not. This is something i have been grappling with and the video about the termination of pregnancy had me thinking about how the spiritual contract could be a part of reincarnation.
Reincarnation is our reality.
Mom and dad got married at a young age, while ma was still in school.
They did everything culturally, ilobola nemisebenzi .
Dad passed away and then my mom got remarried in court, her husband insisted that we all use his surname.
It caused a lot of friction with the Ancestors, they come in dreams saying they don't recognise the name we using.
We in the process of changing our surname.
Thank you Gogo for this vid
Makhosi 🙌🏾makukhanye!
your grandfather was totally wrong on that. We should be real when it comes to children's surname.
Thokoza Gogo. My parents were married and got devorced after some few years then we changed our surname to our mother's and moved back to her home. does that have any problem if i use her surname?
Thokoza Gogo...
Ok my mom is using her fathers Surname which we all using as her Kids...the problem is we were told ukuthi sishintshe sibize her monthers surname coz her parents bashada ecourt abashadanga ngokwesintu...now we dont know kuth whag needs to be done ngokwesiko ukubuyela esbongweni saka Gogo please help me
That requires a consultation
I mean my innerstanding of reincarnation is that when ur soul has to relearn things you come back here on earth, so how do we know if a member has turned into a good or bad ancestor or stack somewhere in the realm of the spirit ?
My father's family line is causing so much confusion and pain in my life. I have been deciding on changing the name to my mother's maiden name because her father and stepmother and sister have done so much for me and my sister. I'm ready to cut the dead weight
Observe all the rituals when doing this and you could come out alright 🙏🏾 kube kuhle!
@@SangomaSociety thank you for getting back to me! much blessings!
What if your given your stepfathers surname?
Makhosi. This is something that would be specific to you and your ancestors. To speak privately or to book a consultation please use the link below.
I currently only offer online consultation.
There are two options available: Ukuhlola emoyeni & Ukuhlola ebunzimeni: this is only open to those whom are unemployed, black & currently living in SA.
The offering here is a sliding scale of whatever you can afford at the time.
Makwande okuhle kodwa🙏🏾 sangomasociety.simplybook.me/v2/#
I need to see you😭😭😭
♥️
Is there anything about first names too?
All names carry meaning, but not all names require ceremony.
Akwande Makhosi
Uma ubaba enguNkosi bese abathathani benomama kodwa ikhishwe in Haley ko
Bese wena ukhuliswa ugogo kamama naye enguNkosi umama Nate enesakhe isibongo
esikabani isibongo
Esikababa?
Esikagogo kamama okukhulisile kusukela ebuncaneni?
Noma esikamama ?
Akwande Thokoza
Makhosi! Inzima lendaba! Ifuna ukuhlolwa ngoba iciniso lisedlozini. Isintu asibizi isbongo ngokuthi uzalwa ngubani kuphela, abadala abahamba nomtwana ngibona abakhona ukuthi bahlukanise iciniso, inzima imphela.
I'm an illegitimate female , i.e- born out of wedlock and rejected while still in the womb! So naturally I use my mum's surname. So if i heard you correctly- it's not a big deal that I don't use my father's surname?
Correct. Even fine if you don't call his ancestors because they may not even recognize you, being that their child made his choice.
when you say becoming apart of the maternal family forever does that mean that you reincarnate only into your mothers line again? Meaning her forefathers become yours and Such?
Not quite so simple. I speak specifically here of the spiritual counsel and the leadership structure pertaining them.
Does happen but mostly nope 🙅🏻. In my past life I came from India 🇮🇳. But in this life I'm born in Africa
Tokoza gogo. What does it mean to be bitten by a dog in your dream.
Dogs often represent ancestors in the dream space. But can mean something different depending on your family's totems. To get more insight on specific dreams you can book a dream interpretation here sangomasociety.simplybook.me/v2/#
Camagu Makhosi, this is so interesting. I have been using my mother's surname because she and my father were not married but my father's family did imbeleko for me. Earlier this even I was talking with my mother and she asked if I don't want to change my surname to my dad's family, or my step father's because he's the one who brought me up and has been in my life since I was a year old. I felt very conflicted because I wondered how my step father would feel about me taking my biological father's surname when he's done so much for me, and I know how much this would mean to him. So I was left very conflicted. I did a midnight candle prayer for the first time tonight and after that I came to UA-cam and that's when I saw this video. I feel very much more enlightened now and I'm thankful I was lead to your page.
Thokoza gogo Mina nginenkinga ngazalwa ngakhula ngingamazi ubaba wami umama se washona ngithwasile but still inhliziyo yami enokuba bohlungu ngesinye isekhathi ngifise ngathi ngabe ngimazi ubaba wami noma ngizazi ukuthi isibongo sami ngubani kodwa konke lokho ukuna montu uzongiphendula ngoba bashona bonke angazi ngenze njani ukuze inhliziyo yami exhole
yonke impendulo isemsamo. mina nginokuthi umuntu maka ngene emsamo azilile ashaye isgubu ahlabelela kuze kuvele impendulo, u3 akuthole usemsamo umemeza idlozi lize likuphilele. this is the way I've found the deepest secrets hidden from me without anyone alive telling me. Ungumgoma manje, ikhiphe ngengoma Gogo, themba, Ungalilahli ithemba ekubeni idlozi liyakuphilela.
@@SangomaSociety thokoza gogo ngiyabonga kakhulu kodwa inkinga yami angizwisisi ukuthi uma uthi emsamo ukhuluma ngani