Pandas Aren't Bears (They're Closer To Walruses)
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Lions and tigers and bears and walruses! Oh my! If the Carnivora is not the coolest and most diverse clade of mammals on the planet, it is certainly the clade most likely to eat you! And the thing is that from the hyena to the skunk, the fossa to the seal, if there isn't something in this clade for you, you're on the wrong channel!
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Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a UA-cam Videos all about the 🐭🐹🦫🐁🐀🐿️ Phylogeny Group Of Rodents 🐭🐹🦫🐁🐀🐿️ on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a UA-cam Videos all about the 🦔 Phylogeny Group Of Insectivores 🦔 (Insectivora), such as Shrews, Moles, Hedgehogs, Solenodons, Gymnures, Moonrats, Desmans, the Extinct West Indian Shrews, Etc. on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Wait... so are you telling me that pinniped means "ear foot"⁉️ 👂🦶
It's even weirder that "true" seals are called earless in that case‼️ 🤔
GO WATERBEARS!
Can we start getting primary sources on the video comments for scientific videos? I'm not consistently able to find the sources with Google scholar searches the last few videos.
This entire group can be described as "if not friend, why friend shaped?"
:3
They simply need enough domestication.
We already did that to wolves, and are starting with foxes.
@@GygasDistruttore Good luck domesticating bears.
@@honourabledoctoredwinmoria3126 Russia
Can I preorder a teacup grizzly?
"High contrast Chinese bamboo Bears" is the best name ever!!
Yep, I laughed out loud at that 😂😂😂
Yes!!!
Oh wow I read it exactly as he said it! what are the chances for such a long video
Honestly I dislike high contrast Chinese bamboo bears even more after learning it's an imposter. With the true panda being way more cute.
bro got the casual geographic narration
NOT ALL FOXES ARE FOXES!!!
You’re telling me flying foxes are actually bats????? Smh get outta here
@@napoleon6221wait, napoleon is a lama? Nah your more crazy get outta here!!1!!1
NOT ALL FOXES ARE FOXES!!!!!!!!!
Not all Foxes are Foxes! (I'm told this is a magic formula to make more cool content appear❤)
All foxes are a type of fish 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Years ago I literally made a meme of the taxonomy of canines saying " Fox's most distant relative another fox"
This series is just Clint slowly going insane over confusing phylogeny. Quality content
I want a supercut of when Clint says "We'll talk about that in another video", but then it plays the entire video that actually talks about it up until the point he says that he will talk about another thing in another video where the video will then cut to the video talking about that thing. I imagine it will eventually loop through every single video on the channel.
I’m just confused that none of these are actually reptiles.
@@Reuben.Aotearoahe's expanded to Clint's zoo(logy?) now basically
@@Reuben.Aotearoa They're the hagfish of reptiles.
I assume this is roughly the plan with the phylogeny "films" they're planning to make. Like the snake supercut they made but on a larger scale. Eventually we'll have an 100 hour movie on all animals.
I'm sure the YTPs are already brewing lol
“Not all foxes are foxes” because I’m in to that kinda thing!
Oh and “DAA WATERBEARS”
I'm also into that Kind of Thing
Yes!!! I'm into that kind of thing! Bring on the Foxes, and other things.....!
I dont get it.. is this a sexual thing??@@SmallTownAngel86
@kaviyaneskandari2316 lol if you make it to the point in the video, he says to comment that if you want a breakdown of all the fox/not fox members of the family. I'm into learning about all the mammals, especially Canines 😊
I always thought of seals as ‘walking seals’ and ‘not-walking seals’ because that felt like a more obvious difference in movement instead of ears.
Walking seals and flopping seals?
Yes! Let's have a tardigrade vid.
My mate Dave first mentioned them to me.
He said they were an eight-legged mammal, blushed and said,
"Animal! I meant animal! It's 5:30 in the morning., I'm not awake yet."
Waterbears! Moss piglets! The cutest creature that can survive through exposure to the vacuum of space!
Poor Dave
Hey Clint.
My friend Ewan has a pet skunk. It "escaped" once (animal rights idiots cut through the skunks outdoor enclosure that was connected to the house).
While searching for the skunk he basically dive tackled a badger he mistook for his skunk.
It went as well as you would expect.
oh! Did he find his skunk? hope so!
@@antewaso8876 He did. Her name was Bindi and she died of old age in her comfortable bed years later.
@@21redwhiteblue thank you!
Your abuse of the phrase "hagfish of (group)" to describe most species is hilarious
At any given time, some lineages will have been expanded and others will have collapsed back down into one species resulting in a constant presence of outliers species intermixed with lots of closely related species. Give it enough time in many of the ones that are expanded currently will collapse back down and the ones that are narrowed currently will expand back out.
He abused the phrase so much that it sent me to an ad break of _two_ unskippable ads. 😅
@@darcieclements4880 The quantum hagfish hypothesis: All species are in a perpetual superposition of being hagfish and not being hagfish.
I like the one I came up witg to describe the opposite of being the hagfish of something. Being the snakes of a group. Like Humans are the snakes of monkies. You can't create a phylogeny of monkies without humans being there as the same way you can't create a lizard phylogeny without snakes being there.
@@bigkirbyhj666monitors aren't lizards, you can't pull that one on me. Their similarities are mostly shared by reptiles as a whole. I would be happy to call the group drakes or dragons, though.
Not all Foxes are Foxes, Da water bear!
Not all "foxes" are 'foxes'
All will be one!
Badgers and coyotes working together is the cutest thing ever. But not for the prairie dogs 💀
Probably the scariest thing my ever for prairie dogs
For Prairie dogs it's like Alien working with Predator
One of the things that most impresses me about the caniforms is the amount of convergent evolution that has occurred within the group. You can see anteaters, apes, spitting cobras, pleisiosaurs, snakes monkeys, ground sloths and even tyranosaurs mirrored at least in part in the caniforms.
Take a look at Ambulocetus while you're at it. They look like a cross between a crocodile, a mosasaur, an otter and a wolf
Meanwhile, they're the ancestors of whales
_and the descendants of deer_
Clint you started to overload my brain and all I started to hear was “seal seal seal seal!”
I feel the urge to make a joke about a seal that couldn't afford to get into a circus because it was pinnae-less, without a pinna to its name.
**slow clap of respect**
The end segment about mammals returning to the ocean was incredibly funny. I would highly recommend watching until the end.
I nearly clicked away until I saw this, glad I didn't 😂😂
Zoologist here, phylogeny on nematodes would amaze/trigger a lot of people lmao
I second this!
Let me guess
They're technically speaking not even really todes
And btw recent molecular analysis has shown that direwolves were more closely related to jackels than wolves, but convergently evolved with wolves.
NO! I WANT THEM TO BE WOLVES 😭😭😭 Why does this matter to me? Not 100% sure, but I do think dire wolves is cooler than dire jackels...
@@LouderThanLife7 It is, but we can make references to Anubis now, and that's also cool. We can call the American Anubis Wolf, or something
@TiggerIsMyCat, incorrect, the Aenocyon genus is not closely related to any extant member of the Canina subtribe, it is instead considered a basal offshoot of the subtribe.
Molecular analysis? Chemical composition of the bones or what?
@guyfawkes8873, it's shown on the cladogram that the Aenocyon genus is a basal offshoot of the Canina subtribe rather than being closely related to any of its modern members.
Watching this at higher speeds only emphasizes how Clint-like Clint is...
Pinnaed pinnipeds and pinnaeless pinnipeds? Preposterous proposition, professor.
Perfectly pronounced, pinnipeds are pretty precise
@@noivernblast3366 Absolutely astonishing aliteration
Pish Posh
The panda bear is a bear that resembles a panda. The red panda is, well, a red-colored panda.
All pandas are red 😉
@ClintsReptiles I disagree, an albino panda is a light brown colour.
Fair.
@@ClintsReptiles All extant ones; perhaps Simocyon was less vividly colored. ;)
@@ClintsReptilesIf you compare the Qinling Panda with the red panda I think the comparison makes more sense‼️
Since the Qinling panda used to be less rare than it is today, maybe that's the "panda" they originally thought looked like a red panda⁉️ 🤔
Take a drink every time "hagfish" is said and you will be waking up in the hospital 🤣
Petition to start calling Clint slim shady
I want videos on so many of these groups! All the foxes and their fox-like relatives, the seals (including walruses), the skunks, the badgers, and the raccoon-relatives.
The mustelid group fascinates me more than any mammal I can think of the american badger has been my favorite mammal since I was a child. Something about them amazes me.
Mustelids and corvids are mindblowingly special.
Man you had pretty good taste as a kid. My favorite mammal was probably a chicken
Ever since an 80s movie as a kid the ferret is my favorite animal the domesticated and the American Blackfooted Ferret. Mustelids are badass.
Mustelids are my favorite!! I have a pet mink and ferrets.
Sea lions used to gather for breeding on the beach where I went to university (Vancouver Island). One thing everyone learns really quickly: they're a lot more agile on land than people generally give credit for. The bulls are huge, angry, and surprisingly mobile.
As a sea lion i aprove this comment
Dead male Sea Elephants are quite possibly the biggest stink created by decomposition ever created.
There should be a Hagfestival. Where all hagfishes of all clades come together and celebrate!
actually, that particular manatee practices wizardry
you picked a bad day to record, sounds like there was a service vehicle parade
We should classify by wetness, cuteness, and adorableness. All seals are wet, and many are cute, but all are adorable (such as the walrus). Pandas are dry, cute and adorable.
I think walruses fall under "we all know they are adorable but we call them 'cool' or the like instead so they can maintain their image, which is very important to them" *_walrus chest bump_*
I love how Clint can talk about naming things based ears for 5 minutes and keep it interesting
I just love these videos! 🤩But also there is something tantalisingly mysterious about the bits of the clades we see and I am getting law key obsessed with mapping all the families, clades, genera etc 😂
Possible missed opportunity to not call them "pinnae-less pinnipeds"
Turns out Master Shifu is the main character of Kung Fu Panda
hahah nice!
@@rockfri Shifu is a panda. Po is a high contrast Chinese bamboo bear.
Well considering shifu means master, I wouldn't expect americans to get anything right where that franchise is concerned lmfao
“Hey Frank, you’re breedin’ a lot”
- Unsuccessful Seal Ancestor
YAY! PUPPIES! Not all foxes are foxes!
here in chile, the sea lions are called "lobo marino" marine wolf
They're bears. Stop messing with my mind, Clint.
Not all foxes are foxes.
Also, some seals in german are called "Seehund" which means Sea dog. Da water bears
See dog is still a term used for all of the members of that clade in English. It might not get used as often now but it's definitely a term that I've read before in reference to all three clades.
At least it's a little bit more systematic as the whole group is called "Robben", the group without the pinnae is called "Hundsrobben", because they include the "Seehund", the group with pinnae have the fitting name "Ohrenrobben" and the third group are the "Walrosse", so no discussion about the name of the group. ... although, I think that most Germans wouldn't name "Seelöwen/Seebären" as "Robben"...
they’re called sea wolves(atshikw) by the Innu/Naskapi of Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador, grey seals specifically(unuatshikw) are as when they call they look like they’re howling
edit: i found out grey seals will kill seals of other species and harbour porpoises, probably also why they’re called sea wolves then. brutal man.
Isn't the seal the "Robbe"? Same thing?😮
Isn't the seal the "Robbe"? Same thing?😮
"All foxes are fish!"
Wait what was I supposed to shout again?
Have you ever tried to grab a ground squirrel or prairie dog with your face? - Clint 2024
It’s always insane to me that this channel doesn’t have a million
I like watching Bull Walruses fight each other for dominance.
I think you should do a separate phylogeny video on the mustelids i.e. the “weasels” since the term “weasel” is often used as a polyphyletic term for the smaller mustelid species.
When I use my iPhone to take a picture of my ferrets if you go into the information panel it says Polecat lmao it’s always made me wonder about the phylogeny of mustelids and the domestication of ferrets.
@@davidgessin-mccully3919 I think that ferrets are actually a domesticated form of European Polecat and BTW I don't know about you, but I prefer considering *ALL* members of the Mustelidae clade "weasels" just like how all members of the Canidae clade are often considered "dogs" and all members of the Felidae clade are considered "cats" I mean "Mustelidae" literally means "weasel" in Latin after all.
Oh I use that term for the entire group. If I go multi phylogenetic, I say weasily type appearing things because there are other not very closely related groups that look similar in their body plan and behavior.
@@brfisher1123
So do you call all canines dogs? Like if you see a fox do you go “look it’s a dog” no you’re going to say “look it’s a fox” even though it’s a canine. The domesticated ferret is member of the weasel family yes but they aren’t actually a weasel neither is a polecat. A weasel is just one species of mustelid, polecats are another of which the domesticated ferret Mustela Putorious Furo (little thief in Latin) is a considered a subspecies of due to their ability to hybridize and survive in the wild.
@@davidgessin-mccully3919 What about lions and tigers? People often consider them a species of cat even though they are not domestic cats.
I actually really like the idea of naming every even-numbered large clade after its hagfish subclade. It is a really easy system and makes subsetting very clear.
new dysphoria drop: you're a plantigrade instead of a digitigrade
Was not expecting to get a colonoscopy cam of a skunk today but here we are
I was just researching canids for a worldbuilding project and it was such a pain to organize them because maned wolves aren't wolves and South American foxes aren't true foxes and then you have a bunch of animals called jackals... And trying to populate a fantasy world with real world animals, while finding a balance between sticking to how these animals are actually related and mapping their habitats onto my fantasy world, taking into account the climate, available food, and other competitors for similar niches, and making sure their distribution makes sense (as in, like, not having them on a continent that they couldn't conceivably have reached) is kinda tricky. But it's a lot of fun, and your videos always give me inspiration for my worldbuilding.
Do your world include dog mermaids a.k.a. seals?
I'm slowly building up a fantasy world as well and boy I am both dreading but also excited about making up little creatures and then putting them on a map. it's going to be difficult too bc a lot of them will be hybrids, so then I have to think about the habitat and habits of the creatures I'm putting into them, and I want to make sure I put creatures together that make sense.. so I won't have a gryphon-type creature made of a south american bird and a european mammal. though it could be fun trying to think of something to make that work... hmmmmm
my boyfriend tells me to just throw creatures together that look cool and not worry about it but I cannot!!
I need a skunk t-shirt that says "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stink"
That might need to happen!
“Speak softly and carry a big stink” really got me. 😂
Fun Fact! In Dutch seals are called zeehonden, meaning sea dogs!
Frank, the ancestor of all Seals, Sea Lions, and Walruses.
Frank, harbinger of carnivorans
Frank, just Frank
I respect the work you put into these videos. The origins of the English word "panda" are fascinating and i appreciate that you included that. Good reminder that the concept of naming is really about language and not about pure objective science, especially when you remember that evolution doesn't really categorize things in the way we want it to.
Watching Clint go off about earless seals for like 5 minutes straight made my day ❤❤
A nice thorough video on Scarabaeidae would be most welcome! 😁
Ancient wisdom: Everything is the hagfish of something
We only call Clint Slim Shady from now on. I need to hear a diss track on him!
Well, about earless seals, in Spanish you can easily say what you want, Clint: "focas sin orejas" means _exactly_ "pinnaless seals" (as opposed to "focas sin oído", "earless seals"). So there you have it: the deffective English language.
As a Spanish speaker, it still amazes me that English doesn't have a commonly used word for "oreja" and they have to resort to scientific terms like "pinnae".
Go tardigrades, go anythingforms, go Legos! Get my drift, Clint? Looking forward to all of it.
I know there is a lot to covered before you’re ever hurting for video ideas but I’d love to see an “outcast or outlier” episode where you talk about animals that have evolved either just bizarre features or traits that simply don’t fit in with there closest relatives. Even in a broad way like a video talking about carnivorous mammals that aren’t of the Carnivora family or something like that
Tusk made walrus's horrifying for me
"not all bad smells smell bad to all things" LOL Best quote ever!
I had a skunk friend at my old house. He lived in the neighborhood and I almost had him with enough trust to touch him before I moved. I could kinda just sit n chill with him around.
I love the fact that raccoons have a relative that looks like a cat-monkey hybrid.
Skunks actually tame pretty well.
What i really appreciate about clints videos is that they are also a stealth history of biology lesson. So many of our names come from outdated classification methods.
At first glance, Clints seemingly semantic obsession over naming convention is just silly. But it actually walks you through how classification has changed with newer, better information.
Seriously, i hope kids who watch this rewatch the videos every couple years, its the same energy as a family show that gets deeper and more layerd the older you get!
I gotta say the clade explanations are some of my favorites from Clint. Just the amount of data and surprising stuff gives a really good overview of how all this stuff links together. And it breaks my brain.
Speaking of walruses and their glory (because, agreed, who doesn't love a walrus?), I once saw one at a zoo during feeding time, and it came up to the glass, blasted all the masticated food in its mouth right against it, then sucked it back in. Big toddler "look what's in my mouth!" then opening wide to display a nauseating bolus of crackers and processed deli slices energy. And I loved it 🥰
Also I continue to be amazed that a (former) subscriber was not only shocked, but *appalled* to discover your weirdness?? I thought the adorkable charisma is why we're all here!! Aside from the high-tier educational content, of course. Nerds are weird! Either join us or get out of our way! 😤 we have hyperfocuses and/or special interests to attend to, and we've been looking forward to them all day. 'Scuse me, just gotta scootch on by ya, ope! Sorry, my controller is just right by ya, thanks. Gotta fight a dragon while listening to phylogeny videos.
I don't just _love_ walruses...
I AM THE WALRUS!
Goo goo g'joob
The Dingo and it's place in the Australian biosphere is a matter of some controversy. Whilst it's true that they were brought over ~6000 years ago by the First Australians, it's also fair to say that they've naturalised to Australian ecosystems and that conversely, Australian ecosystems have adapted to their presence as well, which brings into question if they can be considered 'feral', at least in ecological terms. There's also evidence to suggest they can suppress invasive predators like cats and foxes.
On the other side of the fence, there's a lot of political pressure to classify Dingos as 'feral' due to allegations they attack sheep or cattle, which the evidence of this happening is mainly anecdotal and suspect unto itself. But, if Dingos are treated as 'native', then they get protection under Australian law, which because of the above concerns would be political dynamite. It's a bit like the debate over wolf re-introduction in the US.
And yet they're more likely the culprit of those sheep and cattle attacks (on the mainland) than the Thylacine which was subsequently driven to extinction.
Dingos have naturalized to Australian ecosystems because they and humans (mostly the latter) outcompeted and extincted the Thylacine. Then, with their niche wide open, the Dingos just fit in as a replacement.
It's like if you went to rob a mansion, killed the butler, and because you killed that butler the head of the mansion hires you to replace them. You're doing well because now you have a steady paying job, and the mansion is doing well because someone is still inside working as a butler, but 100% the original butler is punching the air in the afterlife.
@@zecuse That was far more likely to be roaming/feral domestic dogs, as there's never been dingos in Tasmania.
They are (Canis familiaris) and they are feral as they was owned by humans, feral being of domesticated ancestry that reverted back to a wild state, but i'd refer to them as being a feral native land breed, rather than just feral (referring to the more modern feral dogs).
@@malusignatius Which is why I specified in parentheses "on the mainland". News of Thylacines (mistakenly) being the culprit making its way to Tasmania isn't out of the question. The humans then running on that assumption then drives them to extinction on the island as well.
I'm definitely stealing "Get a horse!" for being annoyed by motorcycles.
I know that seals are terrifying and could easily at least maime you, but so many of them are also frickin adorable.
Okay, I lost it at " The real panda please stand up" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So won’t the real panda please stand up, please stand up, please stand up!!? I loved this part of the video. Well done Clint!😂❤️
Not all foxes are foxes
I love how seals, sea lions, river otters and sea otters each have a different way of swimming. I live in Washington so we get to see all 4. It’s so cool.
I never thought I’d hear a biologist saying things like “trash panda.” 😂😂😂
The Mustelid Zoobook was my favorite issue,as a kid. Also, it included Skunks, as this was the 90s.
I know this comparison is ridiculous, but Clint always reminds me of David Tennant's Doctor Who. A little bit in terms of looks, but especially when it comes to the enthusiasm for their fields of interests (astrophysics vs zoology). 😝🪐💫 🐍🦎😝
Saying a panda is more closely related to a walrus than a bear is like saying a socket wrench is more closely related to a screwdriver than a hammer.
Yeah, what's wrong wit that analogy?
@@greensteve9307 It's deceptive
@@RipleySawzen But a socket wrench is more closely related to a screwdriver than a hammer. Also just because your mind reads panda and automatically assumes high contrast chinese bamboo bear doesn't mean that statement is deceptive.
I did try to look up why so many carnivorans have "mask patterns" on their faces and found a paper that concluded that warning colors were the most likely explanation, since the high contrast on their faces makes them stand out even at night.
Oh that's weird cuz the generally accepted reason is that it helps them see better in bright light which is why animals with eyes adapted to darker specially likely to have these masks as it adds some protection without needing to lose the eye working well at night. There's a reason why humans put the face mask on and it's probably the same reason why so many predators have face masks. The face mask is not unique to mammals either and I don't know that warning makes a lot of sense here because a lot of these animals are also prey items and completely defenseless against bigger critters. I can't imagine a paper saying that predators want to stand out at night would hold up very well to scientific scrutiny.
@@darcieclements4880 The paper addressed that and concluded it probably didn't fit since they weren't exclusively nocturnal or something like that. Smaller predators would want to be visible so that larger animals don't get too close to them.
You are absolutely amazing. I never leave your videos without a diverse range of animals facts that I must instantly text to all my friends and relatives. I hope you do more taxonomy videos.
Fun story I've made up a while back: When Carnivora was being handed out hunting traits, the ursines went with strength, the felines went with weapons, the canines went with social tactics, the pinnipeds went with swim speed, and the mustelids? the mustelids the Mustelids went with pure unadulterated badassery (aka madness) you have Honey Badgers who go for the nards, take snake venom like a tranquilizer and stand up to Lions, you have Wolverines that jump out of trees and act like angry backpacks to bears and moose, you have American Badgers who are like the roided out hulks of badgers, you have Least Weasels attacking creatures 3 times their size, you have Weasels like the Stoat who invented the weasel war dance to hypnotize their prey, you have 6 ft River Otters who hunt caimans and anaconda.... Mustelids are just badasses
The Dutch word for seal is zeehond. Means sea dog, seems appropriate!
20:06 Walruses are also documented hunting seals although it's definitely more rare than in leopard seals.
(Leopard seals are still the only seals that hunt other seals if the definition of seal applies only to members of the family Phocidae.)
Came here for that.
Also: Gray Seals out of all attack and kill Harbour Seals and Harbour Porpoises. Not regularly, but documented more than once.
@@davyjones2247 ah that’s probably why the innu and naskapi called them sea wolves then
Im literally kicking my feet with glee watching this I love learning about animals so much!!!
Clints delivery of information and the jokes keep me so engaged and excited to learn more. This style of content has been making me realize how much I truly love animals and phylogenies!!! :DD
Now I have to make art of a Coyote and a Badger being besties
Jim Halpert "Bears. beat. Battlestar Galactica!"
Yeah, I want a deep dive into the mustelids. The people need to know about the velociraptors of mammals, the giant otters. Those things are scary.
giant otter you say? velociraptor of mammals you say?
I didn't know I needed to know this, but I do now.
so I looked it up. that face is terrifying, I love it.
thank you.
Man this group is just amazing, we got the pinnepeds, usids, mustelids, canids, procyonids, Memphidids, just a group of goobys
Clints reptiles is now turning into clints phylogenies
🌈
"Have you ever tried to grab a ground squirrel or or a prairie dog with your face?" - Clint, 2024
People actually sometimes keep dingoes as pets. They haven't lost their friendly nature. Pretty cool
I feel like Clint probably does donuts in the parking lot with his windows down and his system up
I didn't realize I would be seeing a high def skunk prolapse today lmao
I did not have any specific interest into the ontology of animals but Clint’s passion is contagious and I can’t help watching the whole vids and feeling the lesser panda got slapped in the face.
Thank you sir for your beautiful contribution to humanity.
I expected Clint to explode while explaining the "eared-seals-dilemma".
I'm convinced. The big black and white bamboo eaters are now "hagfish bears".
Missed opportunity for Pinnae-less Pinnipeds
You lost me at seal seal sealing seal seals, but you got me at high contrast Chinese bamboo bears.