+Aleš Nezbeda (SlouchyButton) Opposite, Chromium is Google's open source WebKit (now forked to be Blink) browser engine which Chrome is based upon. I would however expect their CPU and Memory efficiency to be fairly equal though.
+CreeperCraft137 pretty much all devices do that. they always say "more performance when you need it" but it's really "more performance whenever possible" and that can really fuck with your battery life/heat especially since you can turbo boost on all cores at the same time (which really kills battery life) thats why for times when im going to constantly have a load on my laptop (say watching a video in a web browser) I turn turbo boost off
+Aleš Nezbeda (SlouchyButton) only difference is it's open source, has less compatibility with formats and doesn't have a flash player. You should install it yourself. I don't think there is much difference between them unless you hate properiotary software and love google chrome apps and extesions.
Fun fact: the first so-called "turbo" CPUs were introduced around 1987, and they ran at a whopping 8 MHz, instead of the normal 4.77 MHz. And if you wanted to play games, you had to turn off turbo mode, otherwise they would run too fast! (Because most people didn't have the foresight that faster CPUs would be developed, so they programmed the game's timing to be based on the CPU's clock speed.)
Funnily enough, things like that still happen today. Some games change when played at a higher framerate. Most recent case would be Titanfall in which a lot of actions in-game happen faster if you're playing at 120hz vs 60hz. Your weapons will shoot with a slightly higher RoF which is quite nice if you have a 120hz monitor.
Mitchel Paulin It's not really a third of the video if it happens after the main part is done. I like these in-video ads, because they're (semi) relevant, non-annoying, and 100% goes to Linus Media Group instead of Google and whatever ad agency made it.
at 3:08, shouldn't it be Core 0, Core 1, Core 2, and Core 3? I'm just being picky since Linus usually likes making his video really accurate. I'm just suggesting improvement, so don't kill me XD
This is one of the best videos you have made, as it went through the timeline of changes in the CPU's. Could you make more Timeline videos, to see all the different components, where they started from to where we are now?
Love the videos linus. Im educating myself so that i can builad a custom pc for recording music. I have a basic knowledge, but your really helping me distinguish my actual needs vs unnecessary hype. THANK YOU for making these videos.
Fun fact: This is a rare sample of a Techquickie video without a sponsor that was created after Linus Media Group was made (actually it might be the only one)
Too bad I can't feed "likes" to my wife and son :p But seriously without additional advertisers, a show like Tech Quickie would be losing me hundreds of dollars PER EPISODE and I wouldn't be able to keep it going. Hopefully you understand.
LinusTechTips Sure, I get it :) If only youtube was placing its ads at the end of the video... Please continue keeping them at the end of your next episodes. That's the most neutral advertising which I respect Making people watch 15 seconds of BS against their will as youtube does isn't right... Good show by the way. Keep going.
RCTPAVUK if UA-cam put the ads at the end people would watch the video, then the as would come on, then they would quickly leave and go watch other videos(maybe porn)
underpantcockroach That's exactly the point. NOBODY has ever had a thought "ah, let me follow this advice" during watching these ads. On the other hand, EVERYONE is annoyed (and it's an understatement) by the ads. If people are passive about it, somebody (veryverybadword marketers) may one day decide that a mandatory 60 seconds of advertisement is ok... Well, anyways it's not the place to debate about ads :)
AMD does 4 cores boost slightly, 2 cores boosted more than 4 and 1 boosted more than 2 - only one can be active at any given time and it'll automatically pick based on the workload
I went form a hot running AMD quad core running at 3.2GHz max (AMD Phenom II X4 955). It seemed to turn off cores it wasnt using either, while during idle. However, ive never seen it throttle its speed during idle. Now i got a i7 4770K and its a world of difference... i should mention i also have a Asus Z87-Pro motherboard, that comes with auto-overclocking features. single and dual core run at 4.3GHz and triple and quad at 4.2GHz. However, getting it so far to go all the way up, ive only ever seen it use 4.2GHz. During idle that thing will drop down to 800MHz and use 0.1V or less across the cores. Its so good i sometimes miss my AMD heater lol.
... AMD, heater? you have no idea what you're talking about, the old Phenom 2 X4 955 had a heat cap of 62c, I had mine OCed to 3.9ghz with FSB 182mhz or 282mhz (cant remember) running at 56c max load. Heaters? you must be talking about Intel my i5 3570k oced to 4.7ghz runs 85c-90c why lie?
you may look at the raw numbers and think its the opposite, but im talking from experience. Perhaps you were thinking of full load situations, in which case you may be right. But im talking regular use across the day: internet, gaming, word, movies, music, etc. At least in my personal experience and situation - and ofc, yours may be different - my tiny game room was constantly hot with the AMD core + a GTS 250. Now with the i7 and a GTX 780Ti; both supposedly running hotter than the previous pc, my room just doesnt get that hot anymore. During winter i didnt need a heater, literally no need, when my old pc was on. The current one doesnt heat up the room as much at all. The reason behind it, i think, is due to the decreased power consumption during low load tasks - where AMD would be revving up the CPU to get the job done asap and only slow the CPU while idle.
***** woot, dodged that one. I7-4770K doesnt have Intel V-Pro on it. i do take away from it that we should look deeper into the 'special features' of the hardware we buy.
Really informative video, I thought I knew how boost clock worked - I was wrong, nice with that history lesson as well, overall great video, and... I gotta love the 'Speaking of pretty cool - my CPU in idle' made my day ;)
niCe, lots of useful information presented in a way i can understand it, quite refreshing. after watching just a few videos i'm gonna have to give this guy thumbs up and 4 and 3/4 stars.
Damn Linus did you really have to fuel fanboys by only talking about Intel/Nvidea? AMD cpus have a turbo clock and AMD Powertune (might have that name wrong) adjusts graphics card clocks. As well as I, for one, do not know exactly how AMDs solution for CPU turbo works. It would have been nice if it were in the video.
andybruintje Considering the video was not on multicore cpus, thats not a big deal. When the video is on turbo frequencies however, he should have mentioned AMD does it as well as Intel/Nvidea.
I just discovered by experience that if you produce music, you should deactivate intel speedstep because it causes cracks in the sound when it changes frequencies and the sequencer becomes instable. I didn't find any post in forums talking about it but when I deactivated mine (i6700) my workstation stoped the cracks and bugs and I got a lot of headroom to ad virtually as many plugins as I wanted :)
I love this ''as Fast As Possible'' series so much if you do a build guide i dont understand some things cuz. (my language because you explain things differently in more american english). but this makes it so easy coincidentally. I already knew what was turbo booster! Thanks very hard for these videos Linus ill be happy if you make more!!!!! (this text is transelated)
Fantastic videos. You are very well spoken and communicate things very clearly in an easy to understand way. I will be using your channel to learn and better understand computing from a laymen's perspective and to help me purchase my next pc.
Yes, at least on my 3770k you can select if you want a single core to increase or keep them all at the same clock speed and boost all together (but heat builds up really quick...) 95C on stock cooler at 4.3ghz (normal turbo is 3.9 on a single core)
Unfortunately I believe the answer is NO. There is a set limit for each core during a certain usage case. For instance when only one core is used you can get the full boost clock (like 3.9ghz in this video) on that one core, there is then a speed (something like 3.7ghz for the processor in this video but I don't know the exact number off the top of my head) for 2 core use while the other 2 cores sleep. If you are using all the cores then the "normal" frequency (3.5ghz in this case) is all you get. However as bogellenong has pointed out, if you have a intel K series processor (or most AMD ones) and your temperatures are fine, you can increase the clock speeds manually via the bios to "overclock" the processor to higher speeds. there is a lot of information available on this topic but if you accept that you many need to increase the voltage and you keep max voltage and temperatures within safe limits then you can effectively achieve the exact same result as having all the cores "boosted" by the cpu. With a good cooler most (not all, see silicon lottery) i7 4770k chips will reach at least 4.2ghz stable, a full 300mhz faster than the one core boost speed. Some chips even get 4.5 or even as high as 4.8 on custom loop water cooling systems. However bear in mind it can take a lot of time and mucking round to get there, its not a case of change 3 settings to the same levels as everybody else and you done.
Thanx for the info guys, I already know how to overclock but until I saw this video, I thought the boost clock was able to boost all cores at the same time as long as the temps were good. What can I say, learn something new everyday.
if you have your cool and quiet (or whatever it's called with intel) enabled, the cpu will only be as powerfull, as it needs to be. so if you overclock, you kind of set a turbo for all cores, cause it only will be at that speed, if it needs to be.
That outro was very nice and much better than the usual ads. I don't mind them but it's nice having a break from seeing u be some companies b**** and see u beg us to buy their products. I already buy cooler master products if that helps to decrease the ads overall lol.
no need to beg Linus, I _always_ like your videos before I even start watching them! I just know it's gonna be good even if I already know about the subject!! :-P :-D
Gf said "aaw hes cute ,give him a like" not like i was gona argue, you are pretty cool, and quite funny, really enjoy these videos, keep making em, i do learn alot from them :D
"Remind you to subscribe if you haven't already" is so much better than "and as always don't forget to subscribe". "As always" implies linus is addressing viewers who's been here before, who probably already subscribed. To new viewers as always doesn't make any sense since they are new. Either way wouldn't work. So glad Linus finally changed it up so it's not conflicting.
I enjoyed the background on the industry that led up to the point of the video. I'd like to see some more of it. It might work well as another show on the channel. :)
I WANT AN "AS FAST AS POSSIBLE" EPISODE ABOUT THE 7,1 SURROUND HEADSETS AND NORMAL STEREO HEADSETS AND HOW THEY INFLUENCE THE QUALITY OF SOUND IN A SHOOTER GAME
Yeah I was about to cancel my order of a Dell Inspiron 15 5000, 2019 Flagship, because the stats said 1.6GHz processing speed "up to 3.9GHz". I've always been used to just one speed so thought this would be slower than my current 2.3GHz processor. I thought I'd have to buy new hardware to get up to this 3.9GHz or whatever speed I wanted higher than the 1.6GHz. After doing some research online I found what you say is the case now. You can control your processor max output now and the computer will use the speed that's needed. Crazy. Glad I canceled the cancel LOL.. cuz it's a nice computer with 12GB RAM and 1TB hard drive. It also has a number keypad which I've been missing in all but my 1st laptop. That'll be great because sometimes I have to take tests and will also use the computer for some work functions. Thanks for your info here just proving more how things work now. This one has an i5 Intel processor.
I noticed, Linus, that you are the only youtuber who gives us an option to dislike your videos, which makes you come across as more focused on delivering better content and that you want honest feedback rather than the most likes. This makes me more inclined to up vote your videos, even though I usually never rate videos (and these are well deserved up votes).
You are changing the normal running speed of the CPU, not the turbo boost speed. Some mobos have the ability to change the turbo multiplier but most people turn off turbo boost to prevent instability during overclocking and normal use ( the normal clock speed will be higher than turbo speed after overclocking anyway)
It all depands really on how you did your overclock and if you turned off the Turbo Boost. I run an FX-8320 at a fair stable everyday OC of 4.4 GHz. I use no Turbo Boost, No Cool N' Quiet, No C6, No modifier to any of the CPU stuff so mine ALWAYS runs at 4.4 which means that unless I turn the machine off I have more power consumption overall.
Sooo, Linus said that one core gets boosted during Turbo Boost. I just checked the Intel website and it said that (at least the turbo boost 2.0 technology) can boost ALL cores dynamically. Soooooo...uhh...yeah?
Didn't say that only one gets boosted. It's an example of how it works. Sometimes all cores will get boosted, sometimes a couple get boosted, but to reach the maximum turbo frequency only one core gets boosted.
I didn't no that turbo boost was for 1 core only. I thought it was for the whole CPU. A little more power when you need it. That's why Intel's CPU's are much better for gaming :D
It does but the other cores are inactive (and slightly lower clocked; for instance, my computer shows 2 cores (due to hyperthreading) running at 2.9 and the other 6 at 2.6 and 2.7. Those 6 cores are mostly inactive anyway and consume almost nothing (when a cpu is doing nothing it idles and consumes very little). However, if other cores are needed, the frequency on the top cpus is dropped and other cpus join in the processing. It's seems complicated at times but it works very well.
***** no, it's stock and doesn't require going into the bios. Overclocking would be when you force it out of it's factory settings for a higher clock speed regularly with overvolting for stability and/or sometimes saving power.(there's a difference between voltage and power consumption that some people just don't get.)
Aren't all the consumer grade processors "Symmetric Multi-Core Processor" designs? Which means that the oscillator, and a few other expensive parts (float point arithmetic unit, encryption acceleration etc.), are shared between all the cores. This finally boils down to all of the cores running at the exact same speed at all times. This is done to prevent one core from accessing the cache/ram at a frequency which is different from the other cores. Basically prevents the processor from tripping and falling on itself. There is this other thing called "Asymmetric Multi-Processing" which is usually found in the more expensive server counter parts. These processors have cores which are all separate processors in themselves and can run at different clocks independent of their sibling cores. ARM recently announced that they will be designing the next gen mobile processors on this design but we'll probably see those coming in quiet a few years down the road. Now coming to the turbo boost, keeping the marketing gibberish aside, what it really does is prevents the computer from chocking when given a very heavy load ;-) . It's very similar to how youtube pushes the start of a video at a very fast speed then slows it down as the video progresses, all this while figuring out the optimal rate at which they should push the video to you and somewhere through the middle it transfers exactly at the rate that's required to stream the video smoothly on your computer+internet. The processor power management is very similar to this. The video is the program you are running, the speed is the thermal limit. The processor boosts the clock speeds in the start of a a series of heavy instructions so that it can slow down later while it calculates how to manage the next bunch of instructions in the most efficient way possible. GPUs on the other hand work exactly how Linus explains. They boost up if they are running cool and clock down if they are heating up. That's why it's recommended to run high end GPUs in a well ventilated chassis.
Hey Linus, great video. Will you make a video or settle the debate between overclocking the turbo boost vs full-time overclocking? Is overclocking turbo boost really less stable?
Interesting note.... Often the AMD 486 often didnt have a heatsink at all. I had never seen one with a heatsink on it. Back then they just ran open and naked. Used to have a dual socket 486 system back back in the day.
Could've sworn that the turbo did not ramp up further when only using 25% of a quad core CPU on 4670k, unless I turn the core affinity of the task to 1 core or 2 cores.
Great video! Best reference for someone new to purchasing CPUs! Good Job! Can you make a video explaining the pros and cons of DSLR and MIrrorless Cameras with some examples? Please!
best outro ever so natural so clean much outro
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coulter914 So Linus. LINUS IS LIFE.
Hi_Im_Lee I'll start the story. you add on: *I was only 9 years old* discuss
My laptop fan goes into TURBOBOOST when I open google chrome.
+Nano Boyut CHromium is EXACTLY same thing as Google Chrome, Chromium uses google chrome´s core made by google.
+Aleš Nezbeda (SlouchyButton) Opposite, Chromium is Google's open source WebKit (now forked to be Blink) browser engine which Chrome is based upon. I would however expect their CPU and Memory efficiency to be fairly equal though.
+CreeperCraft137 pretty much all devices do that.
they always say "more performance when you need it" but it's really "more performance whenever possible" and that can really fuck with your battery life/heat especially since you can turbo boost on all cores at the same time (which really kills battery life)
thats why for times when im going to constantly have a load on my laptop (say watching a video in a web browser) I turn turbo boost off
+Aleš Nezbeda (SlouchyButton) only difference is it's open source, has less compatibility with formats and doesn't have a flash player. You should install it yourself. I don't think there is much difference between them unless you hate properiotary software and love google chrome apps and extesions.
+SecretPotatoChip I use Google Ultron.
Fun fact: the first so-called "turbo" CPUs were introduced around 1987, and they ran at a whopping 8 MHz, instead of the normal 4.77 MHz. And if you wanted to play games, you had to turn off turbo mode, otherwise they would run too fast! (Because most people didn't have the foresight that faster CPUs would be developed, so they programmed the game's timing to be based on the CPU's clock speed.)
***** Asians play it at 120fps. Yea it sucks.
same thing on emulator.
interesting...
I remeber having to press the Turbo Button, in order to play somehting.
Funnily enough, things like that still happen today. Some games change when played at a higher framerate. Most recent case would be Titanfall in which a lot of actions in-game happen faster if you're playing at 120hz vs 60hz. Your weapons will shoot with a slightly higher RoF which is quite nice if you have a 120hz monitor.
No ADS?, Who are you, and what did you do with Linus.
@RectalDiscourse xD
@@MuhammadAli-jd2ut eat coconut
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Was a lot more in detail than I expected. Good job, Linus!
Were is my end video AD Linus!!??? RIOTT!!!
Mitchel Paulin hehe
Mitchel Paulin
At that point the real content of the video is over so you can stop watching it at that point.
dollar shave club is awesome
Mitchel Paulin It's not really a third of the video if it happens after the main part is done. I like these in-video ads, because they're (semi) relevant, non-annoying, and 100% goes to Linus Media Group instead of Google and whatever ad agency made it.
Mitchel Paulin you are free to stop watching.People are so sensible nowdays. facepalm
at 3:08, shouldn't it be Core 0, Core 1, Core 2, and Core 3?
I'm just being picky since Linus usually likes making his video really accurate. I'm just suggesting improvement, so don't kill me XD
yes
you disliked the video? Even me! ""
This is one of the best videos you have made, as it went through the timeline of changes in the CPU's.
Could you make more Timeline videos, to see all the different components, where they started from to where we are now?
Thank you!!
I just got back into PC, upgrading from a Phenom II X4 965 to a Ryzen 5800x and I was a little confused on how Turbo Boost worked.
You know what else is cool? Linus
"My CPU when it's idle..."
Sometimes you just make me laugh Linus xD
Love the videos linus. Im educating myself so that i can builad a custom pc for recording music. I have a basic knowledge, but your really helping me distinguish my actual needs vs unnecessary hype. THANK YOU for making these videos.
The first ever Linus video I've seen without a segue to our sponsor.😅😁
aw men
you explained this like an absolute legend. thanks, man!!!
HE SAID EH!!!!!!!!
of course he said "eh" eh!
Mitchel Paulin Good = Good?
Radazeon V Good + Good x eh = Canadian (mind explosion with crazy sound effects)
good eh?
Mitchel Paulin
Canadian = Bacon
Fun fact: This is a rare sample of a Techquickie video without a sponsor that was created after Linus Media Group was made (actually it might be the only one)
I'm going to like EVERY next video that's without any ads.
Too bad I can't feed "likes" to my wife and son :p
But seriously without additional advertisers, a show like Tech Quickie would be losing me hundreds of dollars PER EPISODE and I wouldn't be able to keep it going.
Hopefully you understand.
LinusTechTips
Sure, I get it :)
If only youtube was placing its ads at the end of the video...
Please continue keeping them at the end of your next episodes. That's the most neutral advertising which I respect
Making people watch 15 seconds of BS against their will as youtube does isn't right...
Good show by the way. Keep going.
RCTPAVUK if UA-cam put the ads at the end people would watch the video, then the as would come on, then they would quickly leave and go watch other videos(maybe porn)
underpantcockroach
That's exactly the point. NOBODY has ever had a thought "ah, let me follow this advice" during watching these ads. On the other hand, EVERYONE is annoyed (and it's an understatement) by the ads.
If people are passive about it, somebody (veryverybadword marketers) may one day decide that a mandatory 60 seconds of advertisement is ok...
Well, anyways it's not the place to debate about ads :)
Some of the best video/audio quality on youtube. GG
Yeesss! A video without integrated ads! Like in the good old days. Keep it real like that!
see linus? 0 advertisements/ 0 dislikes! ;)
Nope, 2 dislikes.
0/ ads less money
Sponsored by Intel and nVidia.
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I like the view because your didn't sell me anything (ad) and didn't say a stupid intro... Direct to the point... Thanks
1:06 Well, guess what, now we're back to the good old days
Super good! Everyone into tech should watch these to learn. Explained perfectly!
AMD Turbo Core boost all cores or what? You didn't cover that.
AMD, is that a brand?
RemX405 um...yes...it was in the video...
AMD does 4 cores boost slightly, 2 cores boosted more than 4 and 1 boosted more than 2 - only one can be active at any given time and it'll automatically pick based on the workload
RemX405 Ignorance is great to have, huh?
RemX405 fanboy
3:44 This bit got me to like the video
I absolutely loath ads. I block them regardless, but can understand and tolerate the shameless plugs... but man, That was hilarious! xD
One of my favorite tech quickies .. Didn't know to much about processor history
I went form a hot running AMD quad core running at 3.2GHz max (AMD Phenom II X4 955). It seemed to turn off cores it wasnt using either, while during idle. However, ive never seen it throttle its speed during idle.
Now i got a i7 4770K and its a world of difference... i should mention i also have a Asus Z87-Pro motherboard, that comes with auto-overclocking features.
single and dual core run at 4.3GHz and triple and quad at 4.2GHz. However, getting it so far to go all the way up, ive only ever seen it use 4.2GHz.
During idle that thing will drop down to 800MHz and use 0.1V or less across the cores.
Its so good i sometimes miss my AMD heater lol.
... AMD, heater? you have no idea what you're talking about, the old Phenom 2 X4 955 had a heat cap of 62c, I had mine OCed to 3.9ghz with FSB 182mhz or 282mhz (cant remember) running at 56c max load.
Heaters? you must be talking about Intel
my i5 3570k oced to 4.7ghz runs 85c-90c
why lie?
you may look at the raw numbers and think its the opposite, but im talking from experience. Perhaps you were thinking of full load situations, in which case you may be right. But im talking regular use across the day: internet, gaming, word, movies, music, etc.
At least in my personal experience and situation - and ofc, yours may be different - my tiny game room was constantly hot with the AMD core + a GTS 250. Now with the i7 and a GTX 780Ti; both supposedly running hotter than the previous pc, my room just doesnt get that hot anymore.
During winter i didnt need a heater, literally no need, when my old pc was on. The current one doesnt heat up the room as much at all.
The reason behind it, i think, is due to the decreased power consumption during low load tasks - where AMD would be revving up the CPU to get the job done asap and only slow the CPU while idle.
*****
thank fuck I have 3rd gen xD
***** woot, dodged that one. I7-4770K doesnt have Intel V-Pro on it.
i do take away from it that we should look deeper into the 'special features' of the hardware we buy.
Weird. Im using an AMD CPU and it throttles my frequency down to 1.7 GHZ when im not using it and has a non OC-d max at round 3.9 GHz ish.
Really informative video, I thought I knew how boost clock worked - I was wrong, nice with that history lesson as well, overall great video, and... I gotta love the 'Speaking of pretty cool - my CPU in idle' made my day ;)
Great video, Linus! I like the look into history.
niCe, lots of useful information presented in a way i can understand it, quite refreshing. after watching just a few videos i'm gonna have to give this guy thumbs up and 4 and 3/4 stars.
@techquickie - I think that you got your pictures inverted at 1:32!
Yeah!
Achievement :saw a techquickie video ending with no ads !
Damn Linus did you really have to fuel fanboys by only talking about Intel/Nvidea? AMD cpus have a turbo clock and AMD Powertune (might have that name wrong) adjusts graphics card clocks. As well as I, for one, do not know exactly how AMDs solution for CPU turbo works. It would have been nice if it were in the video.
It works basically the same way.
Techquickie Oh well okay then haha, thanks. I figured there would be some kind of difference.
He also forgot to say that the first multi core CPu was from AMD...
andybruintje
hes paid by Intel, so he can't reveal that information XD
andybruintje Considering the video was not on multicore cpus, thats not a big deal. When the video is on turbo frequencies however, he should have mentioned AMD does it as well as Intel/Nvidea.
I just discovered by experience that if you produce music, you should deactivate intel speedstep because it causes cracks in the sound when it changes frequencies and the sequencer becomes instable. I didn't find any post in forums talking about it but when I deactivated mine (i6700) my workstation stoped the cracks and bugs and I got a lot of headroom to ad virtually as many plugins as I wanted :)
Linus you have made a mistake at 1:30 you need to inverse them LOl
I love this ''as Fast As Possible'' series so much if you do a build guide i dont understand some things cuz. (my language because you explain things differently in more american english).
but this makes it so easy coincidentally. I already knew what was turbo booster! Thanks very hard for these videos Linus ill be happy if you make more!!!!! (this text is transelated)
thanks mate, im learning all this stuff to see what i need in my own desktop. your videos are really helping
after seeing this, even my gramma could understand dynamic clocks, great job
Haha not me lol
Best non-ad ending ever. Love you :D
first time watching ur videos and they r awesome dude😀
ikr
finally a video with no spam
i am impressed this was even uploaded
no add was actually very refreshing. i think i will like this video :)
I know that this video was made almost 5 years ago but thank you!
Fantastic videos. You are very well spoken and communicate things very clearly in an easy to understand way. I will be using your channel to learn and better understand computing from a laymen's perspective and to help me purchase my next pc.
Quick quick question guys, if the temps allow it, call multiple cores (maybe even all of them) reach the boost clock?
Yes, at least on my 3770k you can select if you want a single core to increase or keep them all at the same clock speed and boost all together (but heat builds up really quick...) 95C on stock cooler at 4.3ghz (normal turbo is 3.9 on a single core)
Tomás Jarsun that's called overclocking. completely irrelevant.
Unfortunately I believe the answer is NO.
There is a set limit for each core during a certain usage case. For instance when only one core is used you can get the full boost clock (like 3.9ghz in this video) on that one core, there is then a speed (something like 3.7ghz for the processor in this video but I don't know the exact number off the top of my head) for 2 core use while the other 2 cores sleep. If you are using all the cores then the "normal" frequency (3.5ghz in this case) is all you get.
However as bogellenong has pointed out, if you have a intel K series processor (or most AMD ones) and your temperatures are fine, you can increase the clock speeds manually via the bios to "overclock" the processor to higher speeds. there is a lot of information available on this topic but if you accept that you many need to increase the voltage and you keep max voltage and temperatures within safe limits then you can effectively achieve the exact same result as having all the cores "boosted" by the cpu.
With a good cooler most (not all, see silicon lottery) i7 4770k chips will reach at least 4.2ghz stable, a full 300mhz faster than the one core boost speed. Some chips even get 4.5 or even as high as 4.8 on custom loop water cooling systems. However bear in mind it can take a lot of time and mucking round to get there, its not a case of change 3 settings to the same levels as everybody else and you done.
Thanx for the info guys, I already know how to overclock but until I saw this video, I thought the boost clock was able to boost all cores at the same time as long as the temps were good. What can I say, learn something new everyday.
if you have your cool and quiet (or whatever it's called with intel) enabled, the cpu will only be as powerfull, as it needs to be. so if you overclock, you kind of set a turbo for all cores, cause it only will be at that speed, if it needs to be.
Thanks Linus, I did not understand what Turbo Boost & Processor Efficency means! Thanks & keep it up sir!
That outro was very nice and much better than the usual ads. I don't mind them but it's nice having a break from seeing u be some companies b**** and see u beg us to buy their products. I already buy cooler master products if that helps to decrease the ads overall lol.
Great Job, the best PC Hardware youtube ever
no need to beg Linus, I _always_ like your videos before I even start watching them! I just know it's gonna be good even if I already know about the subject!! :-P :-D
Well explained.
I am now tempted to enable my turbo boost and give it a try.
You're a king, dude. Awesome videos.
Gf said "aaw hes cute ,give him a like" not like i was gona argue, you are pretty cool, and quite funny, really enjoy these videos, keep making em, i do learn alot from them :D
Best computer channel ever thank you.
"Remind you to subscribe if you haven't already" is so much better than "and as always don't forget to subscribe". "As always" implies linus is addressing viewers who's been here before, who probably already subscribed. To new viewers as always doesn't make any sense since they are new. Either way wouldn't work. So glad Linus finally changed it up so it's not conflicting.
I enjoyed the background on the industry that led up to the point of the video. I'd like to see some more of it. It might work well as another show on the channel. :)
I WANT AN "AS FAST AS POSSIBLE" EPISODE ABOUT THE 7,1 SURROUND HEADSETS AND NORMAL STEREO HEADSETS AND HOW THEY INFLUENCE THE QUALITY OF SOUND IN A SHOOTER GAME
Yeah I was about to cancel my order of a Dell Inspiron 15 5000, 2019 Flagship, because the stats said 1.6GHz processing speed "up to 3.9GHz". I've always been used to just one speed so thought this would be slower than my current 2.3GHz processor. I thought I'd have to buy new hardware to get up to this 3.9GHz or whatever speed I wanted higher than the 1.6GHz. After doing some research online I found what you say is the case now. You can control your processor max output now and the computer will use the speed that's needed. Crazy. Glad I canceled the cancel LOL.. cuz it's a nice computer with 12GB RAM and 1TB hard drive. It also has a number keypad which I've been missing in all but my 1st laptop. That'll be great because sometimes I have to take tests and will also use the computer for some work functions. Thanks for your info here just proving more how things work now. This one has an i5 Intel processor.
I noticed, Linus, that you are the only youtuber who gives us an option to dislike your videos, which makes you come across as more focused on delivering better content and that you want honest feedback rather than the most likes. This makes me more inclined to up vote your videos, even though I usually never rate videos (and these are well deserved up votes).
Super cool videos TechQuickie! great UA-cam channel
Then what does overclocking do? Does it just change the maximum speed for one core able to reach or a clock all cores can reach at the same time?
You are changing the normal running speed of the CPU, not the turbo boost speed. Some mobos have the ability to change the turbo multiplier but most people turn off turbo boost to prevent instability during overclocking and normal use ( the normal clock speed will be higher than turbo speed after overclocking anyway)
patx35 OH, thanks! That clears up a lot of my assumptions!
It all depands really on how you did your overclock and if you turned off the Turbo Boost. I run an FX-8320 at a fair stable everyday OC of 4.4 GHz. I use no Turbo Boost, No Cool N' Quiet, No C6, No modifier to any of the CPU stuff so mine ALWAYS runs at 4.4 which means that unless I turn the machine off I have more power consumption overall.
i want to oc single thread performance, could i just have as in the video the 3.4ghz on all 4 cores and oc the boost to 4.6ghz
Plusthinking Iq I don't think so unless you can OC the turbo boost
Awesome, No Ad!!!!!! Great video.
the whole video is an ad....
even 8 year later.... linus teaches me things
God I must say LTT (LGM now) is in my opinion the definitive ideal in news broadcasting, keep up the good work & diverse content 💓👌🙌
Linus, Its Really this for the mobile market:
1st: Cooling and thickness
2nd: Power Consumption and battery life
3rd: Performance
For some reason , i thought turbo meant that all cores go to that number . Good thing with Linus ! (keep rocking bro)
Sooo, Linus said that one core gets boosted during Turbo Boost. I just checked the Intel website and it said that (at least the turbo boost 2.0 technology) can boost ALL cores dynamically. Soooooo...uhh...yeah?
Didn't say that only one gets boosted. It's an example of how it works. Sometimes all cores will get boosted, sometimes a couple get boosted, but to reach the maximum turbo frequency only one core gets boosted.
I'm glad you asked this Question man. TechQuickie's response just made it ALL clear for me. Thanks Techquickie, you guys rock.
Nice presentation broo🔥
this was the most succint and complete explanation I've heard. thank you
AMD: Higher Base clock
Intel on steroids (high performance on): Oh hi fck ur electric bill
I didn't no that turbo boost was for 1 core only. I thought it was for the whole CPU. A little more power when you need it.
That's why Intel's CPU's are much better for gaming :D
I thought Turbo changes frequency of all cores.
It does but the other cores are inactive (and slightly lower clocked; for instance, my computer shows 2 cores (due to hyperthreading) running at 2.9 and the other 6 at 2.6 and 2.7. Those 6 cores are mostly inactive anyway and consume almost nothing (when a cpu is doing nothing it idles and consumes very little). However, if other cores are needed, the frequency on the top cpus is dropped and other cpus join in the processing. It's seems complicated at times but it works very well.
Me too, that was really important info.
If you boost all cores, that's overclocking.
***** no, it's stock and doesn't require going into the bios. Overclocking would be when you force it out of it's factory settings for a higher clock speed regularly with overvolting for stability and/or sometimes saving power.(there's a difference between voltage and power consumption that some people just don't get.)
Alexander Pavel You mean twelve cores not 2 right?
AMD and Intel in a tank? more like, Intel in a tank and AMD in a rusty bathtub with wheels holding a shotgun.
Fanboys suck, stop being a fanboy (If you continue, then you're such a waste of flesh). Fuck fanboys and fuck brands.
Xavier Lim I ain't a fanboy I'm stating it how it is. But, AMD GPU's, now that would be a tank.
+Chubby Kid Nvidia or AMD for your preferred GPU?
DularaW AMD. Unless it's something like a 750 TI, 760, 950 or a Titan.
ok I don't care who is better this comment is hilarious
way to go to ignore AMD while AMD has a similar technology..not forgetting that AMD made the first multi CPU.
Google "IBM Power4".
Noh, steeve jubs did, duh...
AMD Cool and Quiet was introduced 3 years before Intel Speed Step. Linus being a shill as usual.
@@goku445 Did you mean Linus?
@@electronichaircut8801 yea
I like how Linus does "but" in a different shot.
I love this guy. Great job bud
Thanks as always Linus great vid.
Aren't all the consumer grade processors "Symmetric Multi-Core Processor" designs?
Which means that the oscillator, and a few other expensive parts (float point arithmetic unit, encryption acceleration etc.), are shared between all the cores. This finally boils down to all of the cores running at the exact same speed at all times. This is done to prevent one core from accessing the cache/ram at a frequency which is different from the other cores. Basically prevents the processor from tripping and falling on itself.
There is this other thing called "Asymmetric Multi-Processing" which is usually found in the more expensive server counter parts. These processors have cores which are all separate processors in themselves and can run at different clocks independent of their sibling cores. ARM recently announced that they will be designing the next gen mobile processors on this design but we'll probably see those coming in quiet a few years down the road.
Now coming to the turbo boost, keeping the marketing gibberish aside, what it really does is prevents the computer from chocking when given a very heavy load ;-) . It's very similar to how youtube pushes the start of a video at a very fast speed then slows it down as the video progresses, all this while figuring out the optimal rate at which they should push the video to you and somewhere through the middle it transfers exactly at the rate that's required to stream the video smoothly on your computer+internet. The processor power management is very similar to this. The video is the program you are running, the speed is the thermal limit. The processor boosts the clock speeds in the start of a a series of heavy instructions so that it can slow down later while it calculates how to manage the next bunch of instructions in the most efficient way possible.
GPUs on the other hand work exactly how Linus explains. They boost up if they are running cool and clock down if they are heating up. That's why it's recommended to run high end GPUs in a well ventilated chassis.
no massive single core performance? 2:20 , should I remind you how much are scores for SINGLE core processor for iPhone/iPad and MacBooks ?
Commenting because I love Linus.
EXCELLENT Video Linus!! Thank you :o)
I'm jealous of your on-camera talent. LoL!
0:27 CPUs from 2100 will run at 60.000mhz? 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Hey Linus, great video. Will you make a video or settle the debate between overclocking the turbo boost vs full-time overclocking? Is overclocking turbo boost really less stable?
This video had no sponsor and now we get 2 sponsors and sometimes the whole video is also sponsored. That's an impressive feat LTT.
I love this channel, Learn new things everyday quick and easy! Thanks very much! ^^
Interesting note....
Often the AMD 486 often didnt have a heatsink at all. I had never seen one with a heatsink on it. Back then they just ran open and naked. Used to have a dual socket 486 system back back in the day.
Didn't know Linus Torvalds did videos. I must have been living in a rock. :(
Linus, how about doing a tech quickie on how turbo boost and power saving should be while overclocking.
Thank you Sales Team™ for not selling the ad integration. Was kind of a shocker.
Thank you for your fast & direct information so I do not have to read the manual and fall a sleep.
Just so happy there isn't that supid add. I'm enjoying this video much more than others ;)
you do know you don't have to watch the ads on the other videos right? xD
Could've sworn that the turbo did not ramp up further when only using 25% of a quad core CPU on 4670k, unless I turn the core affinity of the task to 1 core or 2 cores.
Great video! Best reference for someone new to purchasing CPUs! Good Job!
Can you make a video explaining the pros and cons of DSLR and MIrrorless Cameras with some examples? Please!
Trying to buy a new laptop. I knew I could depend on you to make it make sense.
you sir are a bit of a guru :) thank you for all your information
Great video!
that one liner was way better that an ad!!! lol
0:35 was my 1st pc to :D with a turbo button that made the 33 into 66 :D
those hands if properly harnessed can power a small town