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Rod Barajas is the catcher who couldn't throw. It's not easy being the catcher who can't throw. The 2012 Pittsburgh Pirates were terrible at throwing out base stealers. In this episode of Baseball Bits, a Foolish Baseball production, stolen bases are our main focus. We'll talk discuss concepts like Catcher Pop Time, a tool used to measure the best catcher arm and worst catcher arm. I'll also be sure to talk about Ryan Doumit.
We'll discuss the 2012 Brewers, who ran all over the Pirates. This video features plenty of Ryan Braun steals and Carlos Gomez steals. Also featured is the wonderful basestealer Michael Bourn, who was rarely caught stealing. What happened to stolen bases? I tried my best to answer. It revolves around teams stealing less in search of greater efficiency.
In the end, there's a twist. We've thought of these steals as Rod Barajas stolen bases, but they're really AJ Burnett stolen bases, Jared Hughes stolen bases, and Pittsburgh Pirates stolen bases. Throwing out baserunners is a team activity, not something solely reliant on the catcher to do. As easy as it is to watch JT Realmuto throwing out runners or Yadier Molina throwing out runners, they need their teammates to effective as well.
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FB, I found the "missing clip" of Nate Schierholtz getting caught stealing. Actually a pretty good throw. 25:26 ua-cam.com/video/1TTTN630Uqk/v-deo.html
@@Whitsoxrule1 Thanks! They didn't format the video title like they normally do so I couldn't find it.
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Hi Major League Baseball how are you doing today
MLB that true listen to this person
thanks baseball
MLB so true
I heard your boyfriend got a home run robbed by Cody Bellinger, feels sad man
Imagine being Rod Barajas, your friend says” hey I saw you on UA-cam go check it out!” You watch the video about yourself, and you lean back in your chair, look up at the ceiling and just scream. Then you take a breath, sigh. And then say out loud “ Mother Fucker, I knew it wasn’t my fault!”
🤣🤣
I mean, the title is a bit clickbait-ish since Foolish Baseball explained why it wasn’t Barajas’s fault
Honestly that seems exactly how he would react
Before the mid-video revelation that it was actually the pitchers' fault, I was already seeing that. I'd watch Barajas get rid of the ball and was thinking, "It seems like he's getting rid of it quick enough." All those runners were getting HUGE jumps. Some pitchers do not like to slide-step and some pitching coaches don't emphasize slide-stepping because it often reduces the pitcher's effectiveness. That seems to have been the case with the Pirates pitching staff.
@@DavidEmerling79 yeah, his actual pop time seemed fine, at worst pretty mediocre the worst I could say was the throws being off but when the pitchers can't hold the runner you're rushing tryna make a play so that makes sense too
As a former catcher myself, early on in the video I kept noticing that many of the SBs were against the slowwwww delivery of AJ Burnett. Most people don’t realize that the majority of SBs are made off the pitcher and not the catcher. It takes both players to throw out base runners and if the pitcher doesn’t help out the catcher really has no chance
Former catcher and believe it or not a base stealer. Blessed with speed. for 12 years. Completely agree. I always stole off the picture. I measured scouted POP time against opponents and knew who had a chance and who didn’t. The ones with good POP time meant it was ALL on the picture. As a catcher with an average pop time, I would make sure my picture had a short stride given command and velocity. As always, we work on the out at the plate, but the runner in late inning with a close game can make a difference. Nice to hear from a former catcher.
BTW: How are your knees? Lol
This is very true. In today’s game I feel like many young pitchers have no idea what a slide step is and some have very bad deliveries from the stretch.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice the batter was already 60 feet away from first when the ball left the pitcher's hand.
I’ve never played a formal game of baseball or even tried to be a catcher but I play the show and every time I Throw a curveball they tend to get a steal even tho my catcher had 99 arm and 99 throwing
Former catcher/pitcher and stealer of bases. I can't as a true stealer say I once care about pitcher or catcher "pop" times it was about movement and power of both players. If one person is off on stance or power I am going no matter what. I knew if the catcher had the proper stance it is about the pitcher movement if i could steal, just like if the pitcher was fast but the catcher has a hop step to throw it is on the catcher. Many different reason to steal or not to steal.
Being from Pittsburgh I kept thinking, “Dude, AJ was terrible at holding runners and was slow as hell getting to the plate.” Glad you caught that.
Yeah but Martin didn't have a extremely hard time with aj.....and I wouldn't give aj away in that time for anything. Became a small legend for our little playoffs.
@@KT78387 oh for sure. That just came with him. Without him we wouldn’t of gotten as far as we did
@@KT78387 yeah but Russell Martin was a premier defensive catcher though
Made me smile to see that he's doing well as a coach.
Same
Same
He’s the real Goat to take the heat off the pitcher
Same
Just wait until you hear about Stephen Vogt
The plot twist was genuinely unexpected and cool. Very good story telling here, Foolish.
Great presentation as always. Good stuff.
Not just the pitcher either. The whole game plan.
He's not wrong. The Pirates' organization has been bad at teaching base runner management to the pitchers.
I mean not really. From the first clip they showed I noticed that the pitcher time to get to home was really slow. It doesn’t help that the catchers throws weren’t great, but he could have had way more outs had the pitchers been faster.
@@roanancason2408 the catcher's throw was probably bad because of the location of the pitch.
Spoiler.
@13:15 the “SPIDERS” at #3 with 140. 😂
I feel like I just lost at Clue when .... "it was the pitcher ... on the mound ... with the ball!!"
Me, a Pirates fan:
"Rod Barajas. Now thats a name I havent heard in a long time"
Hello there
@@FoolishBaseball General Baseball
And yet they were still better then than now
As a Twins fan, that's how I felt when Ryan Doumit and his really bad catching skills were brought up.
Me a dbacks fan.
Man. Rod Barajas. I hated that dude
Aahhh there’s nothing more exciting than a new baseball bits
The Yankees not making the World Series
Of course. I mean, ending world hunger would be exciting, but new baseball bits is easier to count on
Agreed
F a c t s
Facts
I've been a catcher all life. At the beginning of this video I noticed the runners were stealing from the pitchers and Barajas scooping up bad pitches. Nice video, good job.
The writing, the production value, everything, absolutely everything is flawless. What an incredible channel and thank you very much for your time and effort.
yes I just discover it and its amazing
"Arm Punt", now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
It's an older reference sir, but it checks out.
@@FoolishBaseball An elegant reference, for a more civilized age.
i think i've seen this in an SB nation video about football ...
@@jonathancote9372 yup, mostly referring to Joe Flacco I think 😁😁
this video just brings all of foolish baseball’s videos together: you see tim locastro, jeff mathis was in there, the worst call in baseball was referenced, and an arm punt reference? my god, it’s a foolish baseball smorgasbord!
A lot of lore here
@@FoolishBaseball To be fair, you have to have a *very* high IQ to understand Foolish Baseball. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of OPS+ most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Foolish's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from *Bill James* literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly *appreciate* the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about BASEBALL. As a consequence people who dislike Foolish Baseball truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Foolish's existencial catchphrase "Strikouts are for suckers," which itself is a cryptic reference to James' American epic *The Bill James Handbook* I'm smirking right now just *imagining* one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Foolish Baseball's unfolds itself on their UA-cam screens. What fools... how I *pity* them. 😂
And yes by the way, I DO have a Foolish Baseball tattoo. And no, you cannot see it.
It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
the only person not mentioned was Mr. Tantalizing Titanic himself
Ryan Maddigan ah yes... large attractive
He also snuck a Spiders reference in there.
Glad to see someone actually bring a bit of light towards this. A lot of runners have gotten bags off of me this year because of slow deliveries to the plate or even really bad pitches and it sucks.
I’m trying out for the freshman baseball team this week. It’s a 3 day try out. I’m playing catcher. This video is making me nervous.
Wish me luck and I will come back to tell you if I make it or not.
Edit: Fuck, I didn’t make it
aw im sorry you didnt make it :(. i hope you stick with it and try out again next year
Don’t worry, this idiot has no power whether you make it. Keep practicing, you’ll get there.
why encourage this young lad to waste precious time on something he clearly isn't talented at
@@patrickoconnor9577 hard work makes talent.
@@patrickoconnor9577 Classy Patty
I think it’s unfair to not credit him with the Michael Bourn one unless you go back and watch the 93 stolen bases he did give up and make sure there was no miss calls the other way. Missed calls were just a fact of the pre replay era. Love the videos!
Wasn't thinking about this, but very true. Bad calls usually even out over time.
except observation the observation needed is of what REALLY happened...not what the stat sheet in an old filing cabinet says...for the sake of accurate analysis, counting it would skew the data
The point in the end is that it wasn't really about the catcher the rewatch of the 6 CS's is just a fake out "he's actually worse than the stats even say"
@@jamisonfoglesong7172 Right, but the 93 stolen bases are also what the stat sheet in the old filing cabinet says.
@@jamisonfoglesong7172 What the fuck are you talking about? You can't have it both ways. Taking the 93 stolen bases "from the old filing cabinet" isn't necessarily what REALLY happened either. You either review ALL the stolen base attempts to make sure the umpire was right, or you don't review any.
Don't worry, we see the Cleveland Spiders
They snuck in there.
Lol...I was like??! 😂
@Kfir Shoham 13:13
What is the inside joke here? Is it just an easter egg?
@@jacobhelwig815 Its just because the Indians may change their team name soon, so yeah its pretty much just an easter egg.
Foolish I really appreciate these videos of the NL in the early 2010s. That was the era that made me fall in love with baseball and these videos really bring back great memories.
0:46 this is the funniest part lmao
Well, the position is called CATCHer not thrower
ROL4NDpkmnguide man beat me to it
I hadn't considered this.
Actually the catcher does far more. Far, far more. He directs the entire defense. He decides whether there is a cutoff. He decides what pitch to throw, and whether to go low or high or in or out, because he has to know all those details about _every single batter in the league._
Plus, in live play, he is in charge of defensively protecting the most important base of all.
Bill Woo then they should have called the position a “much morer” 🙄
This reply thread is my fave
How do you get the ideas for these obscure videos?
I love the fact you’re a baseball fan when I first started watching your channel I would’ve never thought it until you mentioned being a cubs fan
Is this Adam Egret?
He said in a patreon post he get his ideas from Ralphs
@@queirais the grocery store?
@@mikedup5399 I am not sure but I don’t think he gets them from a grocery store
come back to this one occasionally. really well done start to finish. I'm glad I found your channel those years ago, Thank You Bailey!
Wow. The research and just brilliance that went into this is crazy. Great watch, thank you.
2012 Pirates logic in a nutshell: let other teams always have a runner in scoring position.
What could possibly go wrong?
me as a pirates fan: "ahh here we go again..."
the pain never ends
Foolish Baseball IT NEVER DOES
you know its bad when we knew who he was talking about before even clicking on the video....
We were good.
That was 40 years aho
I just love that the MLB officially supports your channel. Hope you continue to grow (or maybe even outgrow youtube), you always have such solid and passionate content
Great job and investigative work!! It just goes to show that sometimes there's a lot more to stats. Barajas was part of the problem but not the entire problem. As a Mets fan, I remember Mike Piazza having trouble throwing out runners also.
What about Macky Sasser who never became an everyday player because of his throwing hitch
I demand Super Mario Sunshine or Star Fox in the next Baseball Bits
Can't. I don't use the full video game soundtracks anymore. Scared Nintendo will roundhouse kick my channel in the face.
@@FoolishBaseball roundhouse:Peter Griffin
Foolish Baseball is the centrepiece of Baseball on UA-cam, confirmed by the Cleveland Spiders fan himself
Fuzzy!!!!!
@@Drewcurtis13 roadhouse
Bro Imagine if Jeff Mathis hitting + his arm is the best catcher in baseball
$15 TO BUILD THE PERFECT CATCHER
Foolish Baseball thank you for commenting on my comment you’re my favorite UA-cam or I watch every video on your channel thank you
Foolish Baseball bro the defense is Gary Sanchez
this was brilliant. my favourite so far from you sir! amongst many
Great video. Awesome content. I loved how you kept digging & investigate each clue.
This should be textbook example in science & engineering classes on why-why analysis, trouble-shooting, data-gathering/analysis.
the "pain" tweet is the funniest goddamn thing I've seen in a good while, thanks foolish
pain
Video Idea: "Aroldis Chapman: The Yankee With No Brim"
O man yes 😂
Absolutely adore the aesthetic of this video man, great work. Subscribed
Your mix of video game music and baseball just makes me smile dude.
Ryan Doumit was a “prized” acquisition for the Twins.... So much pain....
Trystan Olbertson we’ve had so many “prized acquisitions” that have ended badly... so so so much pain. Nishioka. Park. Doumit. And that’s just the beginning
flij k john ryan murphy for aaron hicks.
Yankees286 god don’t remind me. We spent so much time developing Hicks then he finally gets good and we trade him for john ryan murphy. So much pain
Prized acquisition?? 🤦🏼♂️
Granted he was a catcher but the guy played 2 years in Minnesota & averaged:
.260 50R 16HR 60RBI .745 OPS
He the. played one final season in Atlanta & retired @ 34 years old. That’s above average offensive production @ the Catcher position but it was for 2 seasons & then he was basically retired. That’s not a prized acquisition, that’s an above average player for 2 seasons...
Rob Barajas : Can’t throw off base stealers
Tim Locastro : I’ll pretend that you don’t exist
Tim Locastro would be stealing home on AJ Burnett
@@FoolishBaseball AJ Burnett in 15 years, "There was this game I was pitching where Tim Locastro stole, first, second twice, home, my left cleat, the drain in center field, a sandwich from our locker room, and the hearts of our fans, but I made my pitches so I didnt care."
Great video! Great info ! I completely enjoyed it.
Great video. I love the research that went into this
Dude your videos are amazing, the way you measure statistics so effortlessly with jokes is really astounding. You also manage to format it in a video essay style, which works really well for baseball. Good on you man, I hope one day you can pass other greats like Jomboy.
Thanks for the kind words!
Oh god. I thought life as a Pirates fan couldn't get much worse with all that's been going on recently.
You just had to bring back memories of the even darker ages, didn't you foolishBB
Why do you do this to me?! I knew it was bad, but not this bad. And not this widespread
To be fair, I think it's more interesting than bad.
@@FoolishBaseball It was very interesting. I think you're right, especially after seeing the conclusion - but it does also harken back to a time where we were....very bad
2012 Pirates were not of a darker age. No where close to where they are now. Watching the team come together during the late 00s and eventually peak in 2013 was fantastic. In fact I'd go so far as to say 2012 was the Pirates on the precipice of a golden age.
Extraordinary video. Way to break it all down, see beyond initial appearances and explain it all with absolute clarity. Awesome stuff for a baseball anorak like me.
This is beautiful. Great use of facts and looking at things from your own perspective.
Foolish baseball, you forgot to mention how the Pirates organization doesn't teach pick off moves in the minors. I swear to God this one is true
Poor Barajas
@@FoolishBaseball LOL, so true.
I’ll ask one of the Altoona Curve player next time I see them.
Very thorough analysis. I enjoyed this.
This is the first video of yours I've seen, you have a new subscriber. This is excellent content. You dig deep to show the facts, not just the easy headlines.
Well, I don't think he could throw out Tim Locastro. He'd get FOT every time.
ya better hurry!
This is one of my favorite sports analysis videos ever. How you are able to vindicate an otherwise would be failure is the work of the Gods. Your work is most worthy of being labeld "Herculean"
very cool video. Well researched, processed, and presented.
I totally understand the slow delivery from pitchers. As a catcher with a decent arm and okay pop time, I’ve found that I will either completely hose a guy or be ran on all day depending on who was pitching for my team that day.
The amount of times I pause your videos to screenshot stats that I’ll never think about again is alarming. Great work FB
I did it once @13:13 just because I'm wondering who the hell the #3 team on the list is... Who the hell are the spiders
@@NateWrig92 lol they’re what he uses for Cleveland
@@NateWrig92 spiders were what Cleveland housed way back when, he just doesn't want to use the Indians name. Starting next season they'll be the Cleveland Guardians
Man
This is a special channel
Congrats, brother
Your channel rocks
Not just baseball stories (what are already incredible) but baseball stories and stats proving why that story is awesome
This is such a cool analysis. Awesome job dude.
very glad i ended up calling the plot twist before the end. all those clips i noticed how slow the pitchers were getting the ball out and how earlier the runners were able to steal the base. feels good man
All this talk about the Brewers made me remember that time Segura ran back to first after stealing second. Would love if you could figure out a way to work that into a Baseball Bits.
I love how you concluded this one, another example of a below average catcher going on to coaching success. That might make a good Baseball Bits.
Ryan doumit is a name I haven’t heard in like 10 years😂😂
Fantastic analysis. I love these videos
Beautiful coverage👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Clicked extremely fast!
That's cool. I made it extremely slowly.
I wasn't ready for this plot twist.
Love this clip!!! Great editing
Well done my friend. You’re videos are a must watch for baseball fans.
"Here's a catcher throwing out a baserunner in HD"
*suddenly Tony Wolters*
I am so glad Barajas had a small but happy arc is this anime series. I mean. He was old, and retired, but I bet he could’ve hung around the mlb for maybe 2-3 more years, bouncing around. So I’m happy for him, he took the high road.
Such a well done video man. Loved every bit. 😉 keep it up. 👍
Rod barajas finally retired and now spends all of his free time.........
EATING!!!!
great analysis as always!
Or as he was lovingly referred to by us Mets fans, "Bod Rarajas."
This video is so good that Blake Snell will stay in to watch it
Pop time! Lifelong GenX baseball fan here, & idk how many times I've learned something from watching your vids. Keep it up, they're genius!
All I know is that you are a incredible video editor. I pray that the world knows enough to make sure that you are doing this for a living. Great job!
I saw the Thumbnail and thought, "is that Rod Barajas?"
Your eyes did not deceive you
@@FoolishBaseball let me just say, that you are soo good at making those pixilated versions of MLB players, that if someone can name Rod freaking Barajas, you know you did a good job.
its pretty crazy hearing the names cole, morton, and glasnow in a rotation now, than cole, morton, and glasnow back then
As a former college catcher I was watching his form trying to see if I could find an issue and I genuinely didn’t see one and as the video went on, the plot twist of the pitcher giving problems made total sense. I also did notice him having to dig a lot of his throw downs
This is a great video. Well done Mr. Baseball
Today’s gonna be a good day, and here’s why. Foolish uploaded.
Also it's Saturday so that helps
I somehow stumbled on this page and I am glade I did. This was so informative and I am unsure if you are a one man team but excellent job cross checking facts and bringing your audience into baseball. Made it easy for me to understand too. “)
coo video man I respect you're hustle. very interesting
Never heard of Barajas before but this was really interesting, Thanks Bailey
Don't forget Rod Barajas was the interim manager of the padres when they fired Andy Green last year
rod barajas... I haven't heard that name in a long time... a long time.
Hello there
Love your content. Well done.
What a gem of a channel. Instant sub
Foolish Baseball: The 2012 pirates were a mess
Me, a pirates fan: Cause they aren’t a mess every other year
Hey, that’s Mets legend Rod Barajas to you...
Amazing work!!!
I haven't watched baseball since the Diamondbacks won the series with Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling, yet I still love this channel, and always watch it even though I have no idea who any of these players are. I think I enjoy it because of the presentation style, the 8-bit graphics, the humor and the fact that this is basically a show I would have absolutely loved while I was still watching baseball. So even though I don't know the players or the narratives or inside jokes and memes, I still enjoy it for it's quality and what it is.
Also, your videos on this Mike Trout guy have almost been enough to get me to start watching the game again. Still considering it.
7:15 Pirates fans practicing safe social distancing eight years ahead of time.
ouch
"Despite the organization's eventual failures with Morton, Cole, and Glasnow"
Morton does NOT belong in this sentence. He was arguably the worst pitcher in baseball in both 2008 (age 24) and 2010 (age 26). Morton's in-season 2010 ERA fell from 9.35 to 7.57 after Searage became pitching coach in midseason, and the rest of Morton's career with the Pirates could be described as "acceptably below-average." Getting a guy from awful to non-awful is a success, not a failure.
Morton wasn't a failure to develop a young pitcher in Pittsburgh, like Cole and Glasnow. Yet he wasn't exactly a veteran pitcher whose value was maximized in Pittsburgh, like AJ Burnett and Francisco Liriano. Morton's career was just really weird.
Correct me if I’m wrong (I was very young at this time) but I believe Morton’s first inning era was in the 10s most of his career with Pittsburgh
@@keithsmith9967 , I don't have the stats in front of me, but that sounds a lot more like Jeff Locke. He used to get blown up early in games a lot.
Morton's biggest problem was that if he didn't have a clean inning, he tended to spiral. That and he had trouble getting outs the third time through the lineup...which is really a problem for most non ace pitchers.
Jon S maybe. Like I said I was young
I just discovered this channel today. And I love it.
Wow way to dig deep on topic choice and the analysis!
I will hear none of this Ryan Doumit slander. He’s the most valuable player in modern baseball history based on my calculations
My thoughts exactly. He was the GOAT!!!
I wouldn't go that far, but will say that Ryan Doumit is a poster child for a guy who'd have a positive fWAR if he played with laser/robo umpiring for strikezones instead of framing.
Just me or was everybody dying when we saw every example of stealing was Tim Lacastro
Great video. Well researched. Good job dude. Thanks for the video. New subscriber.
this is the content and storytelling i didnt know i needed
Travis D’arnauld: *Am I a joke to you?*
Travis d'Arnaud can do whatever he likes on defense if he keeps raking like he did in the NLDS
Baseball dads thinking their son's the next Yadi made my day.
Wow, that was some great analysis!
Great video. Love the content