The fanfic I wrote as an 11 year old boy for LotR because I didn‘t want it to end was closer the the source material of LotR than this game is to the other DA games.
What game were you playing? The writing was patronizingly awful. Enemies are sponges with the same repetitive move set. Awful game. Killed my enthusiasm for anymore Dragon Age.
Just gonna quote a reddit post that words this perfectly "This game may have worked as a standalone game, but a standalone game it is not. And I've judged it based on how it fits with the rest of the games in the series. Dragon Age series has never been afraid of delving into heavier topics such as racism, slavery or sexual violence. Veilguard, on the other hand, seems to have sanded down all heavier topics from the lore or has thrown them away entirely. It has done a disservice to the lore and fans of the lore. No longer does it feel like your choice of race matters that much. Sure you get unique dialog but outside of that, no one really reacts to it. You don't get the sense that you're in a world where Elves are almost entirely servants or slaves (only ones not are the nomadic dalish), where they lost nearly all their own culture through years of forced assimilation. Or where Qunari have been at war with Tevinter for hundreds of years, as if people forget the atrocities of war that quickly and let a random qunari just waltz about wherever they please. The game seems to take a very black and white approach of "good guys must be good, bad guys must be bad". They took a notorious assassin group and made them into glorified freedom fighters, who've never killed innocent people (despite being, you know, ASSASSINS). The treasure hunters apparently have experts on relics to tell them when something is culturally important so they can return it. Just so there's 0 chance of them being seen as problematic. The villains in this game are cartoonish. What's worse, they make their army out of people who, realistically, wouldn't be that happy to follow them. The only justification they give for this is "power hungry people follow those who promise them power :)", ignoring any nuance there would normally be for these decisions. Let's not forget the two groups who join the villains have notoriously been at war with each other until recently. And all of a sudden they're besties? I went into this game with an open mind, hoping they'd prove my apprehensions wrong. But they didn't. It's not just the lore they butchered either. It's how it treats you, the player, as well. Companions summarise what you saw only seconds ago, so you wouldn't possibly make your own interpretations. It tells you exactly how to solve each puzzle you come across, at least in the story and companion missions (don't remember if it also happened in free exploration). It felt like the devs were treating me like a child, or like I was stupid. It felt even worse to get to the end and only get a summary of the game you just played in the ending slides (where in previous games you found out what happened to companions and such after the game, where they went etc). And then I saw the secret ending. They just couldn't leave some of the villains of the previous 3 games be and just HAD to take away or diminish their agency. I wish I could recommend this. But I can't. It relies a lot on the Dragon Age series, without respecting it."
I wanted to play this so bad when it was announced, and finding out that you have to play about 60hrs before things start actually getting good with the story, and the gameplay is repetitive makes this game not for me......especially at full price. Maybe if Sony throws it on PSN Plus as one of the monthly free games is when I'll give it a try. But I'll just probably check out a UA-cam story recap, because I'm tired of grindy singleplayer games.
Whoever told you 60 hours was lying. You have a pretty solid idea of whether you will like it or not in the first 2-5 hours. The only thing playing 60 hours does is put you closer to completing the equipment catalog so that you have more choices in how to change your build but that's only a selling point if you are already investing into the combat and its progression. I like the game, but I'm not going to trick people into putting 60 hours into something may not like.
The fanfic I wrote as an 11 year old boy for LotR because I didn‘t want it to end was closer the the source material of LotR than this game is to the other DA games.
What game were you playing? The writing was patronizingly awful. Enemies are sponges with the same repetitive move set. Awful game. Killed my enthusiasm for anymore Dragon Age.
I agree with you 100%. Kind of hated it, I hate it even more that it made me not care about the franchise anymore.
Just gonna quote a reddit post that words this perfectly
"This game may have worked as a standalone game, but a standalone game it is not. And I've judged it based on how it fits with the rest of the games in the series.
Dragon Age series has never been afraid of delving into heavier topics such as racism, slavery or sexual violence. Veilguard, on the other hand, seems to have sanded down all heavier topics from the lore or has thrown them away entirely. It has done a disservice to the lore and fans of the lore.
No longer does it feel like your choice of race matters that much. Sure you get unique dialog but outside of that, no one really reacts to it. You don't get the sense that you're in a world where Elves are almost entirely servants or slaves (only ones not are the nomadic dalish), where they lost nearly all their own culture through years of forced assimilation. Or where Qunari have been at war with Tevinter for hundreds of years, as if people forget the atrocities of war that quickly and let a random qunari just waltz about wherever they please.
The game seems to take a very black and white approach of "good guys must be good, bad guys must be bad". They took a notorious assassin group and made them into glorified freedom fighters, who've never killed innocent people (despite being, you know, ASSASSINS). The treasure hunters apparently have experts on relics to tell them when something is culturally important so they can return it. Just so there's 0 chance of them being seen as problematic. The villains in this game are cartoonish. What's worse, they make their army out of people who, realistically, wouldn't be that happy to follow them. The only justification they give for this is "power hungry people follow those who promise them power :)", ignoring any nuance there would normally be for these decisions. Let's not forget the two groups who join the villains have notoriously been at war with each other until recently. And all of a sudden they're besties?
I went into this game with an open mind, hoping they'd prove my apprehensions wrong. But they didn't. It's not just the lore they butchered either. It's how it treats you, the player, as well. Companions summarise what you saw only seconds ago, so you wouldn't possibly make your own interpretations. It tells you exactly how to solve each puzzle you come across, at least in the story and companion missions (don't remember if it also happened in free exploration). It felt like the devs were treating me like a child, or like I was stupid. It felt even worse to get to the end and only get a summary of the game you just played in the ending slides (where in previous games you found out what happened to companions and such after the game, where they went etc). And then I saw the secret ending. They just couldn't leave some of the villains of the previous 3 games be and just HAD to take away or diminish their agency.
I wish I could recommend this. But I can't. It relies a lot on the Dragon Age series, without respecting it."
I bought all 3 dragon age games because of it, except veilguard, they are on sale
You should play because it'll remind you of how good Dragon Age Origins is, and you'll drop this crap and play that instead.
I wanted to play this so bad when it was announced, and finding out that you have to play about 60hrs before things start actually getting good with the story, and the gameplay is repetitive makes this game not for me......especially at full price. Maybe if Sony throws it on PSN Plus as one of the monthly free games is when I'll give it a try. But I'll just probably check out a UA-cam story recap, because I'm tired of grindy singleplayer games.
Whoever told you 60 hours was lying. You have a pretty solid idea of whether you will like it or not in the first 2-5 hours. The only thing playing 60 hours does is put you closer to completing the equipment catalog so that you have more choices in how to change your build but that's only a selling point if you are already investing into the combat and its progression. I like the game, but I'm not going to trick people into putting 60 hours into something may not like.
I can't play this game because of how they butchered the narrative of the Dragon Age universe.
Sure, send me a key and I'll play. Otherwise I will not be spending my money on dialogue that's gonna annoy me
Veil guard is a good game. Having a blast 60+ hours in on Noghtmare mode.