The Reason Strange World Bombed At The Box Is Pretty Clear
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2022
- Holidays the Disney way. The entertainment mega-house usually finds a way to serve up some big-screen family fun during Thanksgiving week, and 2022 is no different. But what may surprise moviegoers is the holiday box office numbers coming in for "Strange World," Disney Studios' latest animated offering.
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What do you think contributed most to Strange World flopping?
I seriously just heard of this movie
You forgot to mention that the son was a LGBTQABCXYZ+-
Over wokeness at the expense of plot and character building.
@@batman3217 you forgot to add Disney first LGBT since the previous movie.
It's looks like something a fat mixed girl dreams about
I didn't even know this movie existed. Until now.
Exactly!!! 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
I had no idea either. Proving even Disney didn't care because if they did they would have marketed the movie.
History will make sure it never did. Thankfully.
Don't watch it
Same.
Y'all should be honest almost everything Disney released this year was a flop
Black panther / Thor/ Dr strange all came out
@Bzake spiderman is a Sony property
@Bzake that was 2021
🙌PREECH🙌.
@@mrallenwing All meh
It's really a shame that Disney doesn't seem to really have that much faith in their original stories that aren't tied to another source material. That and Treasure Planet is a movie that needs more love and attention. It just reached it's 20th anniversary this year.
Looooooved treasure planet growing up! What a cool world. I understand it’s kind of creepy/gross but that doesn’t make it a bad movie. Pirates were creepy and gross sometimes! They really should rerelease it but at least it’s on Disney plus.
Treasure Planet is tied to another source material... Treasure Island...
Damn you dumb
@@KenMabie Wow you really have a lot of time on your hands huh? Okay first of all I didn't say that Treasure Planet wasn't tied to another source material, I said that it was underrated and needed more attention since I haven't seen Disney say anything about it for its 20th anniversary. Second of all my first sentence about original films not connected to other sources was about Strange World and other films(examples: Turning Red, Encanto, etc). Maybe you should learn to *read and think* before you type. But then again given your record in this comment section, that's probably asking for too much. Happy Holidays.🤡
@@awkwardarie5419 "Disney didn't have faith in their ORIGINAL stories that aren't tired to another source material." Then you proceed to talk about Treasure Planet as if it's an original story not tired to other source material...
Yeah you did you implied
@@awkwardarie5419 no you implied. Learn better paragraph structure dickwad
I didn’t even know it released yet. I literally haven’t seen any promotion for it at all since it was announced
then watch more trailers
@@jimbo9208 Um Trailers don’t count the reason nobody knows abt this film is bcz there was barely any advertisements promotions marketing to this film u want people to know abt this Film than promote it get them hooked.
Because Disney knew if they promoted it people would not see it,here they hoped it would be seen a little at least.
@@jimbo9208 i watch trailers all the time. Haven’t seen one for this movie since the trailer was first released. But I’m glad you think it’s my fault somehow that Disney didn’t market their movie well enough for people to know it even released.
@@5325jslenk I think that’s partially true. I also don’t think Disney and Pixar have been getting along for a few years now and Disney may have done it on purpose to hurt Pixar
One thing that I noticed in these last movies is that the characters look all the same. It's like they used the same character model and only changed some snall traits.
yep I also miss voice actors who have distinctive rich interesting voices. Alan Tudyk is great and is a keeper. we (or I )need people like those working for Futurama, Disenchantment or The Simpsons and Bob's Burgers whose voices add so much.
disagree i don’t like the character design for this movie but compare it to raya and encanto it absolutely does not look the same.
I think thats something disney is growing out of, if anything.
Does Ariel, Jasmine, Belle, Jane, Tiana, Rapunzel, Anna or Elsa look different from one another? No - they are essentially the same drawing with some teensy little tweaks to hair colour or eye shape. I coupd see Ariel fitting right into Beauty and the Beasts world, or Tiana into Rapunzel's - or heck, the boy from Treasure Planet into Aladdin!
Could any of the strange world characters fit into Raya? Not really.
What about any characters from Encanto fitting in here? No way, this one is way more loose and squishy.
If you take Pixar into account (which I wouldnt because I consider them a quite different studio, but some would) - no character from Turning Red, Soul or Lightyear could intermingle with a disney cast.
The difference I think you are seeing is a growing freedom for 3d character animation to go off-model in the same way 2d animation does.
Programs are better at extreme movement, people are being paid to make far more alternate models of characters to allow better expression - and a cultural shift for animation has allowed them to be slightly less "male everything look stiff and perfect like the toys".
A very Sony Animation, loose, soft, squishy, clasically cartoony move.
I just made that same observation! 😉
@@lilac3266 They are the same, and the same expressions, that "im surprised but to dump to know it" expression in all the characters, also what's going on with the noses?
Disney no longer knows how to promote anything without an established fanbase. They've lost that skill. They spend a fortune on winning the approval of a small number of zealous people which results in a random chance of success. The Mouse House is in trouble and the weakness that needs to be resolved is the promotion of original content.
It also helps that they continue to push an agenda over telling a compelling and engaging story
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 bullshit. What agenda? Did you even see the movie? It’s like saying “Frozen” pushed the agenda of monarchy or whatever. It’s all BS because YOU don’t like the themes or characters.
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 I actually saw the movie and it is COMPELLING storytelling. People who comment on things without even watching it irk me to no end. It’s all just tiresome narrative. Oooh it’s “woke”. Ooh it grooms kids. What a bunch of ugly narratives.
🤡💀🧠⚰ Bob Iger 🤡💀🧠⚰
It's unfortunate cuz when they did score big with audiences with recent movies like Encanto and Soul, it's now basically them catching lightning in a bottle instead of the norm.
Lack of promotion? That's BS, this was advertised on every commercial break the NFL had this past month.😂😂
I only saw the commercial for this film once. So, where you are, Yes they promoted it. But, elsewhere it was not seen. There was no strong push for this film whatsoever.
i don't know anyone who knows this film exists so marketing was definitely an issue
Never saw a single commercial for this flick in my market.
Well they did in my area. Disney has seen numerous other products like this fail miserably, so they probably just cut their losses.
@@themouthofsauron6926 I think its a lack of promotion, coupled with expectation of disney movies being released quickly on streaming, and the story not seeming very interesting... also, i personally had no idea the film was coming out until there was drama surrounding it, which was strange as a big fan of animated movies, who tends to follow their releases pretty closely.
The fact that Disney hardly gave this movie much advertisement support tells me that they WANTED to sabotage this movie's success from the start.
I just watched it today, and honestly, I thought it was pretty decent.
Hopefully, things will change for the better now that some changes in leadership has been recently made.
meh i watched it today and i didn’t like it much. of course i’m not the target demographic as a teenager. but i have to say the dialogue and character development wasn’t very good. v pretty though! lol
It was ..meh so and so
I heard about it
It just flopped no excuses
There were ads
Literally had the movie put on for kids, aged 10 and 8 - parents don't care about the gay shit, so that wasn't the issue.
The kids were bored af.
The adults were bored af.
This movie just overall sucked.
I took a good healthy dump this morning and it looked so much better than anything Disney has pooped out lately that I almost hated to flush it away!
A) they didn't advertise it
B) it looked kinda boring
C) it's not part of an existing franchise
Right answere: its woke
lightyear underperformed too
@@geddoe316 that has nothing to do with the 3 reasons I listed for this movie. But since you mentioned it I've heard several people say light-year seemed boring or too dark for kids and it came out during a small COVID spike
@@shadowfoxx4 lightyear starred a known character that has been around since the mid 90's and should have been more than enough. Disney alienates a portion of the u.s. by focusing on specific character traits. So from a business standpoint they are working with a handicap. If they want gay characters at the forefront, they need to stop pushing it and let it be subtle, or this may happen every time since on paper, half this country wont see it.
@@shadowfoxx4 lightyear is part of pixar's toy story. On your original post answer = C)not part of a franchise
Wow, I was surprised... that I hadn't heard about this one until just yesterday.
Maybe that has something to do with it flopping?
or you don't know how to keep up with movie
@@jimbo9208 Its more that the film is not promoted as much. I only heard about Strange World because someone mention a gay main character in a Disney film and I had to check out the trailer, but by then the film was already released.
@@jimbo9208 it's not the consumers job to "keep up with movie".
@@jimbo9208do you know how marketing works?
@The mouth of Sauron Good movies generate hype on their own. It's a snow ball effect. A saw alot of ads on UA-cam for this movie. Tbh I thought it looked cool but I'm not big on movies.
After a trailer is released people talk and it spreads. People make plans to go see it. This is the snowball effect. It's sad that some can't accept that fact that alot of people disagree with their views. Movies which keep it tame do well because it's something we can all for the most part agree on.
I miss movies like Mulan, lion King etc. Those were solid movies even frozen. But people have spoken with their wallet.
Now Disney has moved to streaming where failures can be blunted. Like the release of Mulan or mrs marvel. The business that started it all is burning through money. It crazy to me that they can't accept reality. It's like most rotten tomatoes scores, critics rate all of these movies favorably however the audience score isn't the same at all. They are willing to purge user reviews to maintain the false narrative. Failure is good though, because you can learn from it
I had no idea this movie was coming out this year, let alone that it was already out. I vaguely remember seeing a teaser when it was announced forever ago.
Maybe because today was the first time I heard about this film? And I love animated films.
Same! I love all Disney and Pixar movies and I didn’t hear about this one at all!
If they advertised the movie then they would have lost twice the amount of money
WDAS should've focused on developing 2.5D and 2D films instead of giving up their niche.
Same here
The only thing I heard about this movie was its had Disney's first gay character...again...for like the 100th time.
If I know more about a characters sexuality, straight or otherwise, more than the general plot cause of how you advertised, that's a problem, and probably a major reason why it wasn't financially successful
yeah same. people are acting so crazy about there being a gay character in a disney movie when a) disney is a sinking ship in terms of quality and box office success and b) disney is about a decade late for anyone who’s gay to even care! conservatives need to shut up about one gay boy in a bad movie from a studio that’s past it’s prime! no one cares ben shapiro!!
When we watched The Rock in Rampage, after discussing the monsters and effects and gunshot to the gut plot holes, we spent a quite a lot of time debating whether or not the character was gay or a social misfit or went through a horrible divorce or widowed or whatever reason why he seemed to have no real interest in the ladies. Point is you can get people to talk about sexuality and other things without even trying to, so when they try so damned hard combined with the movie being average or far below average, it's really dumb to spend so much time promoting that one aspect of the film.
One of the thing that sucks the most about this failing is it's going to be used as an excuse to not make any original movies. "Oh, people didn't like Strange World, time to fart out more MCU trash and awful LA remakes."
Imagine how I felt after finding out about there being an LGBT character in the movie. Of course plenty are trying to blame it flopping on Disney Wokeness now...
Haven’t watched the MCU since the horrid 15 mins of time I wasted on Endgame.. literally only good thing from the MCU now is Blade and it’s gonna be a def hit or miss due to the major fact it’s gonna be PG-13
very true. pixar still seems brave enough to make something new. but disney has been doing remakes and 2s, 3s, and 4s for ages now. and this just solidifies that tactic i guess
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 When they brag about ticking a box, it's a sure sign that important decisions were being made by people who think ticking that box is the major accomplishment and every else that needs to be done to produce a great work was ignored. Also, sadly, it's often a sign of rampant nepotism which means some very important work that needed to be done was done by a friend of a friend or a cousin or an ex instead of hiring the right person for the job. This has happened in tv, games, and many other things several dozen times in the last 7 years or so. It's very predictable now.
A big part of why it's flopped is that there was virtually no promotion for the movie.
What? it was everywhere.
@@DarksidePride not really tbh. This movie wasn't promoted hard like some of their other films. The only thing that was making the news about this film was that the main character was a poc and gay, that is also in gay a relationship I believe. That's all I saw everyone was posting and talking about,didn't even see anyone mention if the film was good or not or what they liked or dislike about it. If your using something like that to be your marketing instead of the movie itself,the characters,the story then your pretty much putting out there you just trying to earn brownie points and nothing else. Focus on making a good film,with a good story and characters, everything else will fall into place and it always do. I haven't seen it yet but with the lack of marketing it seems like they didn't also have faith in it from the start to
@@DarksidePride Maybe in the US. This is the first time I ear about it...
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OF COURSE the "agenda" of Strange Worlds caused it's demise gang 🤔
They lost out on like 20 markets that would not play it (Middle Eastern countries and places like Malaysia/Indonesia etc)
So add THAT to the fact that Hollywood just can't understand that just because LGBTQ people are OVER REPRESENTED in their bubble MOST PEOPLE aren't "alphabet"
In fact, only about 5% of the population ON EARTH is even gay. And while that's STILL a large number that means like 95% of the almost 8 BILLION people aren't 🤙
I love how you explained the whole movie but the end hahahahaha
maybe he’s homophobic
Not just an ending with them side hugging, but a middle where the grandfather asks him an inappropriate question about breaking hearts or whatever, and then we go to a part of the beginning where he talks to a couple of friends and then he acts all weird around a guy, (that's not gay at all)
Never even heard of this flick until I started seeing videos about it show up on UA-cam. A total lack of promotional effort on Disney's part would explain why it bombed to me. It's almost like they wanted it to fail...
Wow, not even once mentioned gay teen romance... I don't know many parents who want to PAY for their young child watch gay teens, yet along talk with them about this stuff in their age. It can get quite confusing for 6 - 8 year old, don't you think? Its quite a no surprise if you will make niche movie for niche audience...
You think an 8 year old is gonna have an existential crisis if they learn that some boys like other boys instead of girls?
You know what WILL give them a crisis? Telling them that being like this or doing other oddly specific things will lead to an eternity of suffering after they die
It’s because they didn’t market this at all. I didn’t even know it existed till yesterday and didn’t know when it was coming out
yes they did
Yeah they did
EXACTLY, never even heard of it until it showed up in videos on UA-cam.
and the fact that their entire world was on a turtle's back just makes it feel like a ripoff of discworld lol
Parents voting with their wallets. Surprised Disney hasn’t made an animated film about the virtues of abortion.
Knock on wood
Not all parents actually hate children. If you're that afraid of a movie that acknowledges that not every parent is good, that says something about you and not the movie. Good parents *want* kids to feel like they can trust them and don't have any need to force them to pretend they do.
@@Enaronia LMAO thanks for the laugh!!!
@@christianconstitutionalist8653 Guess how I know you hate everything in the Bible and the Constitution.
Oh no! A kid having a crush on the same gender in like, 3 scenes! Those poor innocent child's minds! lol, what is up with you and this bull shit about children's innocence? You sound like a pedophile.
It did not failed because of lack of promotion, it failed because this movie doesn’t know its target audience. Also the characters design sucked they look like characters in a cover of a cereal box and what the hell are those noses.
Strange world should've went more with the old times exploration tv era style that they nodded to with the first reveal teaser
like they did with up?
@@matacurrei5665 Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but that is PRECISELY the comparison it should have chased. Exploring a vibrant colorful, well-animated fictional world with characters we care about should have been the easiest layup of the year. Not hard to see how they fumbled this though.
You did not just compare that trash heap of failed pandering to treasure planet
I hate to say this but I didn’t know this was even out yet. I thought it came out in December
It's not the wokeims nonsense, is the repetitive of the animation stylish, same dump faces and utterly over exploited expressions, same bulky "strong woman" same everything, weak plots and so on.
Pixar, in my opinion make just a few "good movies" (and toy story wasn't one of them) the rest rely on the marketing and the name build in the release of the initial good ones.
It's 100% the wokeims
@@theautumnwind8437 bullshit it was all over ESPN
Ah yes, the John Campea method of completely ignoring a touchy but highly significant factor for why this movie is a failure.
Maybe because it's not as significant as you make it sound?
Kid shows like Star vs. the Forces of Evil and Steven Universe and animated movies like The Mitchells vs. the Machines and Zootopia found commercial success despite having lgtb characters in it.
@@mappybc6097ait, I don’t recall any LGBTQ+ characters in Zootopia. What am I missing? I’m really curious now. (This isn’t a homophobic jab, by the way. XD)
@Mel The Second The antelope couple are both males.
@@mappybc6097 Ah, I thought they were brothers lol, thanks!
@@DragonflyMel Np.
So this Disney bombed at the box office Just like treasure, planet, chicken, Little, titan A.E, Home on the Range and 2003 dinosaur!
Actually Chicken Little and Dinosaur were box office success
Church goers boycott the movie because it’s gay theme
You put way to many commas there.
@@Alex-pj8nz why areyou only singling out one religion?
I'm not gonna mention that LGBTQ culture is all around us whether we agree or disagree. But this is a CHOICE that you can spend your money on and believe it or not, which is something I'm not trying to say, parents that are raising their children may WANT to not have their children watch an animated movie where the son is gay. But I didn't say that. 😐
Preach baby. Disney is about " work hard try to do right & dreams will come true"
Sexual orientation is NOT something that should reach a 5 or 6 year olds ears 😒. Shoving an agenda down people's throats. Political agenda is the issue
@@andreawilliams2693
Teaching kids about gay relationships is not at all different than teaching them about straight relationships. If anything, only teaching them about straight relationships would likely cause them to develop very heteronormative expectations of themselves.
Also don’t use “it’s a political agenda” as a way to veil your homophobia. A political agenda in a piece of media is no different than a theme, and much like a theme, you have to actually address the implications of it.
that’s fine to say. it’s true. lots of homophobic and transphobic people are protesting this movie and disney in general right now. disney doesn’t *deserve* money bc it put a gay character in a movie in *2022*. i think disney is gross if they feel like they did something remarkable by doing that. but as a gay person, it’s still sad to see how much hatred this movie is generating for something as small as a gay crush in a kids movie :(
and maybe that means disney is kind of right? conservatives seem to think it was a crazy decision. idk
You did say that. And you’re absolutely right.
@@zina2435 Hey now, they're not all homophobic. Some of them are cool with just being openly racist now, too. So there's that.
Maybe "This character is GAY!" just isn't an interesting concept.
I need to say this: I think so much of the problem begins with the title: _Strange World._ That’s about a generic of a title as you can get! It’s so generic, the movie poster might as well be a white plain with “Strange World” in big block letters printed on it, and nothing else. (I’m probably aging myself here; I remember generic grocery products sold a fair time ago!)
There’s also the show, _Strange New Worlds,_ that exists, and maybe there’s some confusion. I can defend that title because any _Star Trek_ fan knows the words “strange new worlds” figured prominently in the intros of two long-running shows.
But, I think _Strange Worlds_ is simply a terrible title! It would need a seriously strong story to offset that title, and I’ll leave others to decide that…
I have to ask, did they make the dog three-legged because they wanted to raise three legged dog awareness?
he had four legs
@@jimbo9208 Bruh, no he didn't. 3 legs. Look it up. The dog's name is Legend.
@@microphonejacket yes i know it name but what dose that have to do with it legs
@@jimbo9208 video even said that the dog was 3 legged.
@@jimbo9208 I gave you the dog's name so you can have an easy Google search just so you can know that you was wrong. Lol.
The majority of people don’t want to constantly have a sociology lesson in their entertainment. Kinda tiring already.
gay person existing = sociology lesson. maybe you need to get out more?
Agree
What sociology lesson did this movie have?
@@alexsiemers7898 Conservative's get triggered whenever they see POC or the LGBTQ and the movie had the nerve of having both.
Kids movie at that
And from what I can tell, this isn't a situation like Encanto where it didn't do that much in theaters, but was made more popular because of Disney Plus. So sad to see it not be the case.
I saw the movie in the theaters and it wasn't very good. But I think the lack of marketing is the main reason nobody knew about this. And the marketing it did receive gave no clear indication of what the movie was about other than these characters were going into a world they didn't know. Honestly, I would NOT recommend to see this movie in the theaters, its simply not worth it.
I thought it was pretty clear why it flopped too, the poster and trailers looked really boring and like we've seen it a thousand times. It also looks like it would give me a headache because it looks like cotton candy on the screen, or one never-ending sunset.
Thank you!! Finally someone said it. The color pallette for the backgrounds in this movie are atrocious. I can't stand looking at it for more than a few minutes before I need to look away and have my eyes readjust.
So did they give a clear reason? Besides Disney giving looper money?
I never even heard of it until I saw it on Disney plus. It’s really good! It’s a modern story with modern problems- very contemporary. People saying that “the whole stuff made it bad” - NO. Why is everything that’s inclusive and modern suddenly the only thing anyone sees? Let go of your bigotry and homophobia and look at the story it’s trying to tell. It’s a GOOD movie. The characters are all just people- doing their best. And they learn to find meaning in what makes them feel fulfilled rather than what other people want from them. They sacrifice a lot for the greater good but still make the best of it. I loved it. I’ve already rewatched it twice
Disney films are so visually uninteresting now. There's no way I could tell them apart from a glance.
Pretty much avoided the actual reason it bombed
Was thinking that
The LGBTQ stuff was harsh even a thing in it, it’s quite subtle and blink and you miss it
I didn't see any promotion for this movie
what about other movies do you see them promoted
@@jimbo9208 yes
I just learned about this movie today lol
Did they just blame Disney failed woke animation on a film focused on a black Marvel hero? Just admit that Disney hasn't learned that "go woke, go broke" has some truth behind it.
There is no go woke bs don't flatter yourselves
This picture has everything covered. Even the dog is disabled 🤣
Disney isnt allowed around my kids....they made their choice, I've made mine.
I hope you aren’t taking your kids to church either
Why is nobody talking about how ugly the characters are? Those eyes are so unsettling.
A Disney animated film hasn't received a Cinema Score of less than an A in 30 years!? Well, I guess we know who paid them off...
who?
Why dont you reply? Tell us who or delete this dumb comment.
Yeah, who?
Wow, 3 minutes long and missing the main reason why this film didn’t do well.
Well that's what happens when your target audience is not even 10% of the country lol 😆 🤣 😜
Disney didn't seem too excited about introducing an LGBT character. So strange that Disney isn't being called homophobic.
Believe me the thought has occurred to me that they intentionally underpromoted this in the hope that it would bomb so that they could both say they were inclusive and also not have to be inclusive again...
They legitimately didn’t promote the movie until a few weeks before its release.
Looks like a Looper don't want to talk about obvious reasons. Wonder why? 🤔
The marketing was atrocious
Does that mean we have a trilogy of flopped Disney animated movies
in fairness the other 2 were released during the height of the pandemic. This one has no excuse tho
@@lilac3266
And this one is a COMPLETE flop, the others were able to recoup.
I mean, if I was to guess
1) The marketing sucked, it basically doesn't exist.
2) It doesn't really look that great. The trailers are underwhelming, characters don't look very appealing.
3) Middling reviews
4) Controversy amongst certain groups
It bombed because parents SHOULD NOT have to explain sexuality to 5 year olds
i mean it’s an easy concept just say some people love men some love women but love is love regardless.
For the people complaining about the son’s interest on boys.
If a story has straight characters, that doesn’t mean its about being straight and does not alienate the LGBTQ community. We still watch movies with straight characters because of the story, characters, etc.,
But if it has a gay character who for one minute shows they are attracted to the same sex, now suddenly the entire movie is about being gay? Ignoring that the rest of the story, plot, etc., doesn’t even talk about it because the story is actually about something else.
Stop generalizing movies because of the sexuality of their characters. Most of this movies are about entirely different things, but the only thing that catches your attention is that a boy likes another boy. Something that in no regards can change someone’s sexuality, since a boy liking a girl hasn’t changed mine DESPITE the countless media i’ve watched.
I’m not saying this movie is a masterpiece. I’m not interested nor plan to watch it, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t possible to have a captivating story with gay characters that is targeted at a large audience. Look at Owl House, its success goes farther than just the main couple.
If that's not what the movie is about, why even mention it?
@@fredgarvinMP Because everyone in the comment section were first to mention it, and their responses have honestly tired me. I didn't even know about the character's sexuality until everyone started making a big fuss about it.
To explain why people are bringing it up so much with this specific movie.
The bulk of the marketing and publicity effort(laughably small as it may be) before the movie came out was "The first gay character to..."
Its like advertising your restaurant as a steakhouse and people getting mad that other people are talking about the steaks.
Nothing but double standards. We all know that if Ethan was crushing on a girl, the tools in the comments wouldn't be yelling "GrOoMeR, aGeNdA, wOkE, pRoTeCt ThE cHiLdReN" etc.
@@fredgarvinMP Why not?
Never heard about this movie. How the hell did disney not promote this??
they did don't you watch tv
@@jimbo9208 no one watches TV anymore.
Your telling me that a kids film that had LGBTQIA representation in it failed at the box office. I’m flabbergasted at this news. You would wouldn’t think Heterosexual parents wouldn’t want their kids their kids exposed to this or have anything to do with sexuality in a kids film.
or maybe it could do with the fact that Disney did virtually no promoting of the movie, didn't give it nearly the same amount of care as something in a pre-existing franchise (which for the record, Lightyear *was* and it still severely underperformed), and that most releases post-pandemic have struggled to find the right platforms to be released on?
No, it's definitely the two or so gay scenes in the entire movie. Right.
Yeah but every princess movie has kissing in it. If you were smart you’d know this movie bombed because of lack of promotion, but you’re not so.
@@TheSuperNats please... We know Disney's agenda. They are bleeding money yet they don't care. All about a social agenda.
Finally someone notices that elephant in the room... thank you.... The world does not exist in the twitter bubble... keep making movies for Niche audiences and you will get niche box offices numbers.
@@lordbraunschweiger7814 neither it exists in the conservative hive-mind, where a barely promoted, generic looking movie with a generic plot suddenly becomes a "niche movie" because of one character and fails because of it. Spoiler alert: You can have a visually stunning animated movie withe the most interesting plot, but if there's bad marketing it will inevitably flop. Treasure Planet docet.
Forgot to mention that it's commercially risky to put LGBT content in high budget films, let alone ones for families. There is a market for that stuff but it's smaller and has to be properly budgeted and targeted.
That means representation doesn’t always matter if a big budgeted film with representation fails, because you’re alienating another part of the audience that doesn’t support representation.
Yeah, I bet if they advertised the movie more for the story itself instead of again going "Hey we have a character who's gay!!! LGBTQ community, come watch our film and give us your money!!!" the movie might have done a little bit better in the box office. Disney advertising nowadays is all about ticking boxes to bait minorities into watching.
Small? No, it's about 50% and it's only getting bigger. You can't turn back the clock. You lose. Good day, sir.
@@rwrunning1813 Even if would be 50% (of what?) as you say, a $180 million budget is irresponsible. Cut down the budget to what can be made back from this 50% (or whatever the number is) and put as much gay content in it as they could handle bringing their kids to. This wasn't it. Who knows, maybe it could have a revival on Disney+, I'd be curious to know. (I'm speaking in terms of strategy and commercial performance, not artistic merit or ideals.)
To be fair it’s nice to see them taking that risk, but the movie was bound to fail anyways because of the advertising.
Shockingly, when you don’t advertise a movie at all, it doesn’t do very well
So apparently Disney sacrificed blue sky for strange world isn’t that sad.
It would help that it was marketed right... until it was out, hardly anyone knew that this was out, even then very few knew about it.
I don’t know this could be a encanto thing where it may blowup at Disney plus
Encanto was a hit before disney+
@@jimbo9208 No it wasn’t, it was underperforming until it reached streaming.
@@jimbo9208 it wasn’t due to covid and bad marketing although considering it was released during the pandemic it didn’t do too bad compared To this. I don’t know if Strange world has the encanto potential because people are saying it’s just generic. They apparently recycled the message of encanto and a couple other movies and the characters just don’t have an appealing design. Compare this to encanto and the character design speaks volumes
@Edwin not to mention isnt the grandfather an asshole! people were mad at abuela in encanto but this dude doesn’t even apologize for leaving for 25 years when he had the option to return home. He really prioritized “adventure” over his own damn family
I knew the movie was coming out but that is because I have been to the movies. They advertised it in the theaters. I just didn't want to see it.
How does the dog with 3 legs run faster than a dog with 4 legs ?
It's a movie! You should see how fast a one-legged dog can run!
I don't know why this flopped. It had all the trademarks of a great movie. Gay son, bi-racial parents, disabled dog... I mean, as far as identity politics quotas go, they NAILED it. And isn't that all that matters now?? Who the characters sleep with is WAY more important than their ethics and decision making abilities...
RIP Disney
from what I heard (except complains about wokism that i usually just ignore) the story just isn't good? I might watch it on Disney Plus, but it is very low on my priority list
Yeah, it’s quite boring. I tried.
Yes, the story isn't exactly good, forgettable even. the character designs didn't help as well.
It’s as simple as Disney didn’t care. The marketing was weak, it felt a lot like Treasure Planet in terms of weak marketing.
It was preachy, boring and barely promoted. Treasure planet was really good like Atlantis, but place at the death of 2D animation.
Doubt you even saw it
@@conorhealy2763 I'm sure she's real hung up over your doubts.
I saw this movie at the movie theatre on opening weekend. I actually enjoyed it. It just came out on iTunes and I'm thinking of buying it. However, I've gone to the movie theatre a lot this year and there's only once I actually saw previews for this movie and that was in September. They didn't really advertise it. Didn't do too good in theatres either I don't think. I was the only one in the theatre when I went to see it. Sucks that it didn't do good though as it's really good. It's weird but it's good.
Nobody talking about it being a gay teen romance for kids? That's why my family isn't going to see it. I thought all the thumbnails claiming it to be one were just click bait, but after seeing actual clips of Ethan and Diazo flirting and Ethans dad throwing Ethan at Diazo was enough for me. Not surprised it flopped at all. Saw plenty of ads on my streaming services for it.
Didn’t even know this thing existed
A "Family Film" that no parent would want their kids to see. Genius idea there Disney 😆
Not all parents are abusive.
@@Enaronia lmao, thankfully you're not an authority on what is abusive.
@@themouthofsauron6926 "Disney is a human right" --CEO of Disney, probably
@@Enaronia exactly. So many parents aren't into putting their kids on puberty blockers. I mean the nerve! 😂
And there it is folks...
People have no intrest in supporting "The Message"
What message?
I thought it was a new Disney attraction at one of their parks
I didn't know it was a movie until recently
🤭
i hate how this movie wasn’t advertised. i just finished the other day, and i thought it was really good. i heard about it a couple months ago, but didn’t watch it, because i thought it was a crappy netflix animated movie. it’s a literal disney movie and i didn’t know that until a couple weeks ago. i cant help but feel that the lgbtq+ rep is the reason why disney barely advertised this movie
We all know why it bombed. But, it seems that the official media critics can't quite mention it.....
The reason is because you're dumb and you're listening to incredibly dumb people are obsessed with "the culture war"
Idk I saw some clips and teasers for this movie but I didnt really dig the art style, kinda gave me some uncanny valley vibes.
I didn't like the artstyle of the teaser at all. The whacky character movements remind me of Sony animated movies and the humor reminded me of Dreamworks. And for some reason I don't want that in a Disney movie. If I want whacky animation, I watch Sony animated movies which excel at it, if I want weird humor I watch dreamworks. I watch Disney for "warm and fuzzy" and for "magical adventure". I don't know, maybe I just didn't like the trailer and am trying to find any reason as to why.
Disney...please do not make a movie like this again. Extreme cringe worthy.
Disney Co. put out TWO sci-fi animated movies this year, one from Pixar, one from WDAS. Both bombed. Disney toons and sci-fi do not mix.
I am all for educating my child about the different lives people lead, but I sure am tired of the media trying to push it so hard all the time. For a group that represents less than 10% of American citizens, it seems to be the prevailing narrative being pushed.
There was one very short scene of awkward teenage flirting in the beginning, one even shorter and very tame show of affection at the very end, and one brief discussion of the kid's feelings with parents in the middle.
How is that "pushing so hard"? Unless, of course, ANY positive portrail equals to "pushing hard all the time" to you, but that would just be hateful and bigoted and directly contradict your own statement about being all for educating your child about the subject, and that's not the case, right? Right?
@@Alknix stop trying to strawman me.
@@sneakyi Then answer how that is pushing so hard. As Alknix pointed out, the representations are very muted.
I watched it, there's barely an amount of time discussing that their son is gay to call it "shoehorning" or "pushing it too hard", the only mentionable time was that the MC's son likes this dude and it only happened twice with his dad and grandad. they didn't even mention the word GAY in the movie.
For being an animated gay movie by Disney, I'm shocked to only see people just now hearing about it. I knew the film was coming out, but I saw no promotion it. Disney is to heavily trying to promote their live action remakes that they're forgetting to promote their animations.
You mean the fact that this movie is about a gay teen who has biracial parents and a disabled dog trying to fight climate change? Aside from trying too hard on the whole agenda, I can’t think of a single thing why this movie flopped.
Walt Disney must be turning in his cryogenic chamber!
We all know why it actually flopped, looper trying to hide it 😂
I never heard of this movie or saw any trailers for it
It’s because it had things in it that didn’t need to be in it
A movie that promotes has no promotion?
Bring back real cartoons
Watched it yesterday, it was just ok. From the trailers, I was expecting an alien planet, so was surprised when it wasn't that. The messaging is blunt, the criticism of generations is sure to trigger some people, the characters are interesting but they drown out the exploration element. The female leader randomly being the bad guy for scenes then flipping back to good again was jarring.
I think the biggest issue for me was I was excited to see a new alien world and to learn about it, and what I got was journey to the centre of the earth squished in around a family drama. Like Raya and the last dragon, it would have been better as a series where there would be enough room to explore the land and develop the characters. Woke stuff doesn't bother me unless it throws me out of the story for being too forced, only once was that the case here for me, but everyone's mileage varies on that one!
Oh and the I think the art style didn't work for the story they were telling. And I would have liked a surprise angle on the 'grandson has to be like his dad or grandad' conflict - why couldn't he have found an affinity for piloting like his mother and still done his own thing with it? That would have shut the dad and grandad up and acknowledged the mother's role as an option a bit more while allowing him to be his own person.
I had no idea it was out
how did you not
Woke
how
I'm just not interested in ultra far left neo fascist ideology. At all.
Not sure what that has to do with this movie, but okay
So many people including me never heard of the film until people are talking about it flopping. Poor advertising?
Funny how you don't mention the elephant in the room which is Disney advertising it as a gay character heavy movie. All the articles were how about the kid was gay and it would focus on that. No one wants to take their kids to that. Everything was the first gay character but they have done this a million times in hopes it will help sell their movie when it has never happened. People want the story not politics and they advertised this as politics.
We all know why it bombed. It actually made the amount of money it should have based off of the the % of people it was for.
Only you and your clique believe that's the reason why it bombed 'cause it serves the purpose of confirming your bias, but feel free to believe whatever you want. After all we live in a time where personal opinions become facts.
@@staC-wh6ik so name a movie that succeeded when pushing said agenda....I'll wait.
@@aregusters what agenda? Wokeness? That word has become such a vague and nebulous vocab that could mean anything, from a historical show with a prominent female lead to an explicitly LGBT show. Define specifically what that agenda is and name me which movies failed because of that, since it's you who brought the topic of naming movies.
Isn't living your life based solely around avoiding media that has a character in it who isn't a straight white man BORING? Here's an interesting move and you're afraid to watch it because the words "he," "him," and "fella" show up a few times more than you'd prefer.
I mean, like yeah, it's evil and all. And super embarrassing for you and everything. But isn't it also just kind of bland and uninteresting to *be* that way? You can just... stop. At literally any time. Enjoy things.
@@Enaronia but Sky Daddy says enjoy those things will make him burn forever, even though there’s no proof it will