BAILEYYYY. Love to see you in my neck of the woods. Hope CLT courses have been treating you well! 🤝 Also glad you got to see Down4 disc golf, love being on the team there. Darrell is THE man!
Shoutout, Down4DiscGolf!!! 🤝 Interesting about the Envys. I also throw an Atom in Proton, so beefless won't bother me. I mainly wanted it because it was Proton. Thanks for sharing.
Nice film Brod, just a putting adjustment that helped me if you care to listen. Whenever I putted and let my hand/disc go below my hipline/bellybutton area I was never consistently on line or proper height of the disc on release. I started only bringing the disc into my body upper bellybutton area/core at the lowest and started my extension from there and worked on timing with my arm and body. Felt more athletic of a movement and helped me with accuracy and height control but everyone is different that's just what helped me. Love the vids 🤝
I noticed watching some pros like Simon and Eagle their hands may sink below their hipline at first but quickly pull into their core right before starting their extension.
This is what I do. I basically watched a Philo video a few years ago when I was starting to learn how to putt, and this and some of his other advice just stuck with me, and putting's been the best part of my game for years now. Underrated putting tip you gave - so I wanna make sure people see it.
Excited to try out both of these discs! Interested in the soft and medium electron Pixels. Never really gave Envys a shot so definitely will be trying it out as a sweet throwing putter for a slot that doesn't turn over and very workable
This is going to give me realistic expectations for the prism proton envy. I really like the prism plasma envy and assumed it’d be a little less stable but it looks like it’s much less stable. I’ll still buy one…
From my experience the prism rim stuff always flies a bit less stable. I think it has something to do with the proton prism rim having a bit less denisty than the neutron rim blend they usually use. I have a soft proton prism envy from the otb drop and it flies super straight like your eagle one. I bag that as my straight putter and a neutron soft for my OS putter.
I have a Prism Proton L2 and yeah it is pretty straight compared to a Prism Plasma or Eclipse but the gummy feel is so nice. I think mine is the Soft Version similar to the MVP Open Envy. It is the best feeling Envy I have. I would say it compares with the R2 Envy from the Gyro box in terms of flight or even the Fission Envy
First round with the pixel I had the same response of "It's so damn straight and glides for days". I don't see it replacing my putting putter but it's def making the bag as a thrower/approach putter.
The Pixel reminds me of my current Envy that's beat in enough to hyzer flip, but will still hyzer if you get the angle wrong...and I love throwing my Envy.
@@broderic Btw I owned a soft neutron Envy before, and that thing was darn near a Zone. At least mine was. 🤷♂ Just throwing that out there if you're looking for a beef cake Envy.
Beefiest Envy i've thrown is a prism plasma. that said, i've seen one from the same run that's super straight. hard to say if there is a consistently overstable version besides maybe eclipse.
I think MVP is banking on the entire world buying this first run of Eagle Envy, so they didn't want to make it too stable for the newbs like me. I can see future Eagle Envys being more stable. Also, seeing as how Eagle and Simon are in love, it is possible that Eagle wanted a Proxy-esque dicksc, but didn't want to encroach on Simon's thing, so MVP made him a Proxy-like Envy.
I always thought Proton would be one of the more overstable plastics until I started throwing them. Very neutral compared to MVPs other plastic. Best grip as well
My prism plasma was one of my straighter envys and I have like 20 different envys. All of the prism rim stuff I own flies straighter than the usual neutron rim counterpart.
@@pallgumundsson1677 considering I’ve only owned 13 with just 2 in prism plasma, I wouldn’t know as much as you so please tell me more about how envys fly🤝
@@natemaas1982 It was just an observation from mine, my prism plasma is very straight and my prism proton soft is even straighter. Could be my plasma is different from all of the other ones since discs aren’t exactly consistent. The prism rim Panics are also a good example of the prism rim making things less stable than the usual gyro rims. I saw somewhere the rim density is a bit less on prism rims than the usual rim which would affect the stability.
It's such an Eagle move to choose James Conrad's most famous disc for his first signature. Like, Bud, there are dozens of other good discs. Such a weirdly short-sighted business decision.
I am. That has been the one downfall I’ve seen with it so far. The auto focus is definitely not as good as my old lens. Gonna try messing around with it and see if I can improve it🤝
It took about two tournaments before Simon started putting good with the pixels. It actually hurt to watch at first. Dude sunk some wins because of the late-season switch.
Before you putt.. tell yourself these 3 things in order when you're putting. Balance backwards, use your legs and pop it out of your hand. You lean forward like crazy. It'll help your timing. That's what I did, it might help ya
Unless mvp has a machine shop on hand it makes it pretty much impossible to “tweak” a mold for a certain player. They basically have to make a complete new mold
Ppl just don't know MVP plastic. For most companies their champ or premium translucent is more over stable but MVP the proton is more neutral. I have found certain runs of neutron to be the most over stable.
Locals will roast you for pronouncing Concord (Con-CORD) as "conquered" like the Mass-holes. Another common mispronunciation: Raleigh (Rah-lee) as "Rally." Also it would be weird for MVP to make overstable Envies for Eagle if they've already got Tempos to produce?
BAILEYYYY. Love to see you in my neck of the woods. Hope CLT courses have been treating you well! 🤝 Also glad you got to see Down4 disc golf, love being on the team there. Darrell is THE man!
Been loving it here! Darrel is great🤝
He's the man!
The envy and proxy changed my game. Some great saucers
Shoutout, Down4DiscGolf!!! 🤝 Interesting about the Envys. I also throw an Atom in Proton, so beefless won't bother me. I mainly wanted it because it was Proton. Thanks for sharing.
I think these are just cool/ different because they have proton rims with glitter. Still p cool and I might get one
I think you’ll enjoy it🤝
I live around the corner from Down 4 Disc Golf. Its a great shop to check out plastic 🖤
Great shop for sure🤝
Love my Envy's (Fission and Eclipse Glow) and my Proxy(Electron) MVP for throwing putters all day 🤙
Nice film Brod, just a putting adjustment that helped me if you care to listen. Whenever I putted and let my hand/disc go below my hipline/bellybutton area I was never consistently on line or proper height of the disc on release. I started only bringing the disc into my body upper bellybutton area/core at the lowest and started my extension from there and worked on timing with my arm and body. Felt more athletic of a movement and helped me with accuracy and height control but everyone is different that's just what helped me. Love the vids 🤝
I noticed watching some pros like Simon and Eagle their hands may sink below their hipline at first but quickly pull into their core right before starting their extension.
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This is what I do. I basically watched a Philo video a few years ago when I was starting to learn how to putt, and this and some of his other advice just stuck with me, and putting's been the best part of my game for years now. Underrated putting tip you gave - so I wanna make sure people see it.
D4D is a great shop. Darrell knows his stuff man, hooks me up with whatever I need every time I walk in there.
Down 4 Disc golf is great, hugeeee used section 🤝 guy who owns it is chill
Masssssive used section 🤝
Great video as usual Brod! You're definitely not alone in thinking that Envy would be beef. Excited to add it to my bag!
I’m actually glad it’s not beef. Makes me more inclined to possibly throw it🤝
I fall more and more in love with you the more videos I watch.
i have the same exact envy. such a cool color combination with the red stamp. siccccc
My favourite player's channel. When Broderik is on, he's really on and so powerful when needs be. Great stuff. 😊😊
Appreciate that🤝 glad you enjoy
Hey, great video. There is something very validating about a disc golf youtuber with great form, i love to see it :)
Excited to try out both of these discs! Interested in the soft and medium electron Pixels. Never really gave Envys a shot so definitely will be trying it out as a sweet throwing putter for a slot that doesn't turn over and very workable
I really enjoyed both. Definitely gonna throw the pixel more 🤝
Keep up the overwhelmingly positive attitude, aka be you. 😁 It will do great things for you and your channel.
Literally played Bailey this morning and just got home from playing glow there tonight. Crazy that you were there lmfao
Great video man, honestly will be watching your content to learn more about making good disc golf content, love it
Appreciate that man🤝
Even I’m getting hyped when you’re ace running 😂 I had to get the pixel. Ordered like 4 of them lol😂
This is going to give me realistic expectations for the prism proton envy. I really like the prism plasma envy and assumed it’d be a little less stable but it looks like it’s much less stable. I’ll still buy one…
Laser beam straight when thrown flat🤝
From my experience the prism rim stuff always flies a bit less stable. I think it has something to do with the proton prism rim having a bit less denisty than the neutron rim blend they usually use.
I have a soft proton prism envy from the otb drop and it flies super straight like your eagle one.
I bag that as my straight putter and a neutron soft for my OS putter.
That’s what I’ve been told now lol. Good to know. Either way I enjoyed the disc🤝
Love bailey road park! Great vid!
Got my first ace on hole four lol
Sick vid Brod. Keep em comin!
I have a Prism Proton L2 and yeah it is pretty straight compared to a Prism Plasma or Eclipse but the gummy feel is so nice. I think mine is the Soft Version similar to the MVP Open Envy. It is the best feeling Envy I have. I would say it compares with the R2 Envy from the Gyro box in terms of flight or even the Fission Envy
All these MVP plastic name words give me an aneurysm 😂
@@broderic hey not as bad as DD. I rather read a term paper.
Nice!
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Great video!!
Thank you🤝
First round with the pixel I had the same response of "It's so damn straight and glides for days". I don't see it replacing my putting putter but it's def making the bag as a thrower/approach putter.
Same, really impressed with it as a thrower🤝
@@broderic first throw I overshot the hole by a good 30' with barely any fade at the end and I knew it was going in the bag haha.
My nomads look more stable at least they fade glide out way more especially on hyzer
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@@TheStrangerlol but I agree with 30ft my nomads go further than any of my 15 different putters. Stock Luna is close only bc it flips over.
that pin hit with the Pixel broke my heart!
I do love the idea of a straight envy.
My glow envy is just stable. Always fades left. I have eagles preordered so I’m excited to see if it’s like this one
Either way the eagle envy’s are beautiful so it’d probably kick whatever other envy out if I threw them🤷🏽♂️
The Pixel reminds me of my current Envy that's beat in enough to hyzer flip, but will still hyzer if you get the angle wrong...and I love throwing my Envy.
I’m excited to keep throwing this one and see how it beats in. I want that beat up Aviar flight🤝
I putt with Envys. They are also excellent throwers. ❤
My first ACE ever, hole 11 at Bailey Rd. Let's go!
Lets gooo🤝
You should have seen the MVP line day one of the Northeast disc expo, it was madness lmao
I bet it was insane🤝
I did not even try to wait in line
Bro, lemme get that Envy 😎😁
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@@broderic Btw I owned a soft neutron Envy before, and that thing was darn near a Zone. At least mine was. 🤷♂
Just throwing that out there if you're looking for a beef cake Envy.
Didnt know i'd wake up to an MVP vid. Nice.
Miles Morenerdies Beyond the Birdieverse
Eagle's stamp looks great
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Beefiest Envy i've thrown is a prism plasma. that said, i've seen one from the same run that's super straight. hard to say if there is a consistently overstable version besides maybe eclipse.
On hole 4 I think I heard the pixel saying “bag me baby” as it was flying down the fairway.
I think MVP is banking on the entire world buying this first run of Eagle Envy, so they didn't want to make it too stable for the newbs like me. I can see future Eagle Envys being more stable. Also, seeing as how Eagle and Simon are in love, it is possible that Eagle wanted a Proxy-esque dicksc, but didn't want to encroach on Simon's thing, so MVP made him a Proxy-like Envy.
The most documented near aces in all of disc golf
Great video dad
Appreciate it🤝
I always thought Proton would be one of the more overstable plastics until I started throwing them. Very neutral compared to MVPs other plastic. Best grip as well
Yeah I’m an AM when it comes to MVP plastics🤝
I am surprised that the prism proton plastic isn’t a bit more overstable. The prism PLASMA envy is the most OS version I’ve ever thrown.
My prism plasma was one of my straighter envys and I have like 20 different envys.
All of the prism rim stuff I own flies straighter than the usual neutron rim counterpart.
🤷🏽♂️ I got no clue what any MVP plastic is even called😂
@@broderic yeah not the easiest thing to learn 😂
@@pallgumundsson1677 considering I’ve only owned 13 with just 2 in prism plasma, I wouldn’t know as much as you so please tell me more about how envys fly🤝
@@natemaas1982 It was just an observation from mine, my prism plasma is very straight and my prism proton soft is even straighter. Could be my plasma is different from all of the other ones since discs aren’t exactly consistent.
The prism rim Panics are also a good example of the prism rim making things less stable than the usual gyro rims.
I saw somewhere the rim density is a bit less on prism rims than the usual rim which would affect the stability.
The prism rims i hear dont really have the same gyro effect so i couldnsee why its not as stable
Interesting. I’m kinda glad it’s a laser beam but I was just expecting beef because it’s for eagle🤷🏽♂️
prism proton is usually less stable from my experience so I'm not surprised (and happy) that the envy is straight
It's such an Eagle move to choose James Conrad's most famous disc for his first signature. Like, Bud, there are dozens of other good discs. Such a weirdly short-sighted business decision.
envy is an all time favorite. You can genuinely never outgrow this disc.
Very solid disc🤝
dunno if you're still using the new lens, but autofocus was goofing up on hole 12.
I am. That has been the one downfall I’ve seen with it so far. The auto focus is definitely not as good as my old lens. Gonna try messing around with it and see if I can improve it🤝
It took about two tournaments before Simon started putting good with the pixels. It actually hurt to watch at first. Dude sunk some wins because of the late-season switch.
I’ll admit I only really watched whatever tournament he was putting great with them😂
You should do a round at city lake or oakboro park while you’re in NC
I’ll checkm out if I get a chance🤝
Why did people think this Envy would be beefy when all the other Envys aren't?
I think because they thought Eagle would want a beefy run🤷🏽♂️
For them to have an excuse to buy a bunch of them haha
Down 4 disc golf, good people.
Where we playing this weekend?
envy has always been a laser beam disc. thats why i throw it with a tad hyzer it will go flat then ride a pushing hyzer.
I’ve only really thrown the JC ones and those are beef🤝
soft neutron envys are the best IMO. or if you get lucky the 2018 Halloween glow envys are money.
Is the pixel like the particle?
Putting form looking 10 times better. Actually looks like drew with that little kick
Prizm Proton tends to be a little straighter... at least, it was for the Prizm Proton Pyro.
Interesting. I’m far from an expert on MVP plastics but this thing is a laser beam 🤝
@broderic at least it maintained its torque-resistence. Seems to only have lost the late stability.🙃
Before you putt.. tell yourself these 3 things in order when you're putting. Balance backwards, use your legs and pop it out of your hand. You lean forward like crazy. It'll help your timing. That's what I did, it might help ya
And it helps make your putts more consistent in the flow
Unless mvp has a machine shop on hand it makes it pretty much impossible to “tweak” a mold for a certain player. They basically have to make a complete new mold
this is nice
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Ppl just don't know MVP plastic. For most companies their champ or premium translucent is more over stable but MVP the proton is more neutral. I have found certain runs of neutron to be the most over stable.
I have now learned that😂
You should start putting withe pixels your putts have never been better!😀
They felt great! Actually a very very similar depth and feel the the marvels I’ve been putting🤝
12 down would have happened easily with holes 19-21. 19 is an Envy hole for sure.
I thought about playing them but I didn’t even know they except until hole 18 lol
@@broderic Next time. It's the best Par 3 around.
It's all good. We dont want to see hyzers
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dude just risked his MVP wholesale agreement on 1 broderic video… insane he wanted you to say his name and shop…
He didn’t sell them, shop promotion 🤝
prism proton is less stable than regular proton, eclipse, or neurtron
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Damn, the side profile of that pixel is ugly😂 can't wait to receive mine in the mail to hate them too😂
Locals will roast you for pronouncing Concord (Con-CORD) as "conquered" like the Mass-holes.
Another common mispronunciation: Raleigh (Rah-lee) as "Rally."
Also it would be weird for MVP to make overstable Envies for Eagle if they've already got Tempos to produce?
Tempo is less stable than an envy and it’s a completely different mold🤷🏽♂️
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I like it🤝
@@broderic You the man Brod! Looks like that Pixel may have a spot in your bag the way you was throwing it
In this video you look like Taylor Lautner if he got hotter. 🔥
Stop playing and forehand the Envy bro. It ain’t no Pixel and don’t need to be going up any guts 😅
I can’t flick an envy. Feels so bad in my forehand grip😂
@@broderic dang it! Lol
foot fault
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Lol if you like the pixel look at the numbers on the proxy 🤔🫡