Tewbre, I have a great video idea: FIRST TO WIN LOSES A challenge where both of you guys compete in. The winner is whoever beats round 20 the SLOWEST. You guys aren't allowed to pause the game or slow it down. The regrow rate will be set off or really low (In the challenge browser slide) to avoid regrow Farm. And if you lose all your life, you lose the challenge. You can ofc modify the rules like setting the round to 15 or 40 or increasing the bloon speed. It'll be really interesting seeing how you guys stall the bloons without popping them. This is day 4, so I would love to see you guys try this.
100X attack speed will always win in small money set-up, 100X damage will technically win in high money set-up, just because of lag - 100x attack speed will just lose because of limited towers to put down
That said, 100x speed will always win in a theoretical no-lag situation because it doesn’t waste as much damage on overkill and can immediately target the next bloon. If super cerams didn’t exist it could be different though.
@@alexanderzhou5561 for overflow you can just have the tower shoot several projectiles in a frame if it would shoot faster than what is capped by the fps
@alexanderzhou5561 not quite because 100x attack speed benefits significantly more more +damage buffs that apply last like glue storm and embittered ment. With these two 100x speed does 800x damage while 100x damage does 107x damage
In a hypothetical scenario within the game BTD6, where attack speed is fixed at 100x and the choice is between 100x attack speed or 100x damage, opting for the increased attack speed could prove advantageous in certain situations. For instance, in rounds where numerous low-health bloons flood the screen, high damage per hit might result in wasted damage, as a single shot could overkill a low-health bloon while allowing another to sneak past defenses. With 100x attack speed, however, players can quickly dispatch each bloon individually, ensuring that no bloons slip through due to excessive damage. This rapid-fire approach allows for better control over damage output, minimizing the risk of inefficiency and maximizing the effectiveness of tower defenses against swarms of weaker enemies. (ChatGPT Generated)
So talking about bleed damage. The problem is it aint a problem after the early, and maybe mid game, since the 100x damage one was struggling cause of not being able to POP, so just raw dps
He lost because he used terrible towers to use with 100x damage. It gets wasted in towers that don’t already have a fast firing rate. Should’ve just used a tack zone under MIB and primary expertise or an elite defender
@@biggamer2k No its not, its like saying 100x attack power is the same as 100x speed. They both have there strengths and weaknesses. 100x health would be much better against quick but weak monkeys then 100x balloons. Where as 100x balloons would be worse against more powerful but slow monkeys.
@@yarg104Lets Just assume its the speedforce from the DC Comics (flash Power If you didnt know) cus then you can actually survive using your Power but it has the downside of needing you to slow down your thinking so a second doesnt feel Like an eternity
Next time tewity needs to get hard hitting towers as well A moab eliminator can solo a BAD in about 5 uses of the ability Times the damage by 100 It could probs 1 shot round 200 Fortified BADs Its also INCREDIBLY CHEAP
I did the math. A MOAB Eliminator's ability assuming 100x damage would approximately two-shot a round 200 Fortified BAD. Because of the exponential scaling, that really won't amount to much in the end.
@@Combine_37 With 100x damage, you'd pretty much want to play normally. Without farms, it's difficult to do anything useful though. Just the highest-damage fast-firing towers, I guess. But their relative lack of benefiting from buffs would cause issues.
0:09 100 damage projectiles don’t pop multiple bloons tewtiy. That’s pierce. 100 damage would be able to pop a Moab and DDT quickly but have no pierce.
Hey Tewbre Can I Be Your Friends Because Im Hoping To Be A BTD 6 UA-camr! Anways Leme Get To The Real Point Paragon Idea:The Outcast...A Druid So Powerful That It Can Pop Zomgs In One Shot. I Think It Should Have Fire Tornados: Basically The Superstorm Tornados But They Are Red And Cause Fire Damage But Thats Just My Suggestion.
The divergence from eachother does make a lot if sense. I meen 100x attack speed and 100x damage are the same amount of damage but the speed causes that extra damage to be split among layers of hits rather then all at once. So the attack speed has the benefit of waisting less pops on overkills.
I’ve only been playing btd6 for a few weeks and I’m hooked. My little brother deleted my acc for revenge but I got a new one and am climbing the ranks again 💪
I think speed is just better, expecially if you buff towers, the damage upgrades are all additive so you get diminishing returns in the tower strenght increase whit every damage buff (a +1 whit a 1 damage tower is a ×2 while a +1 whit a 10 damage tower is just a ×1.1) while the speed is a percentage increase that always makes a tower that percentage stronger
I bet they're going to tie Again because it's the exact same thing unlike the was 100x balloons for Sonic's money the money obviously one because the money is all money made not just bl balloons but anyways so yeah
super speed “shakes my hand violently, and than punches” *QUANTUM PUNCHHHHHHHHHH* here is the explanation if you go at a fast velocity it will hit the target then after hitting the target it will turn that velocity in to kinetic energy making it hit very hard and if its not simple enough, there is a move the flash use’s that uses his speed to punch extremely hard.
the fact tewtiy didnt get an elite defender hurts my soul 😭😭🙏🙏
Same😭
Thank got im nor the only one
Crossbow master would one shot a B.A.D
Me too 😭😭
@@nataliahines2934he got one and it clearly didnt
Tewbre, I have a great video idea: FIRST TO WIN LOSES
A challenge where both of you guys compete in. The winner is whoever beats round 20 the SLOWEST. You guys aren't allowed to pause the game or slow it down. The regrow rate will be set off or really low (In the challenge browser slide) to avoid regrow Farm. And if you lose all your life, you lose the challenge. You can ofc modify the rules like setting the round to 15 or 40 or increasing the bloon speed. It'll be really interesting seeing how you guys stall the bloons without popping them.
This is day 4, so I would love to see you guys try this.
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i thought i was tweaking seeing this again. dont give up tho 😂😂😂
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100X attack speed will always win in small money set-up, 100X damage will technically win in high money set-up, just because of lag - 100x attack speed will just lose because of limited towers to put down
That said, 100x speed will always win in a theoretical no-lag situation because it doesn’t waste as much damage on overkill and can immediately target the next bloon. If super cerams didn’t exist it could be different though.
no 100 x damage will win hyper late game because there is an attack speed hardcap in the game
@@alexanderzhou5561 for overflow you can just have the tower shoot several projectiles in a frame if it would shoot faster than what is capped by the fps
@alexanderzhou5561 not quite because 100x attack speed benefits significantly more more +damage buffs that apply last like glue storm and embittered ment. With these two 100x speed does 800x damage while 100x damage does 107x damage
@@mherangelonunez7453 so right 😎
2:48 we know what he was actually thinking 🌚
Same 💀💀💀💀 keep it family friendly
It's what everyone names their Glue Gunner
also 8:00
LOL
4:14 also this clip
If speed isn't capped and there is no lag...speed is just better...
Nuh uh
@@yarg104yes...
nuh nah
lol
Yes
In a hypothetical scenario within the game BTD6, where attack speed is fixed at 100x and the choice is between 100x attack speed or 100x damage, opting for the increased attack speed could prove advantageous in certain situations. For instance, in rounds where numerous low-health bloons flood the screen, high damage per hit might result in wasted damage, as a single shot could overkill a low-health bloon while allowing another to sneak past defenses. With 100x attack speed, however, players can quickly dispatch each bloon individually, ensuring that no bloons slip through due to excessive damage. This rapid-fire approach allows for better control over damage output, minimizing the risk of inefficiency and maximizing the effectiveness of tower defenses against swarms of weaker enemies. (ChatGPT Generated)
So talking about bleed damage. The problem is it aint a problem after the early, and maybe mid game, since the 100x damage one was struggling cause of not being able to POP, so just raw dps
@@normalchannel2185the late rounds have a ton of bloons popping a bloon isn’t just damage since they make more smaller balloons
Chat GPT ahh😭
@@dedelink you got me
100x attack speed also has the same dips as damage along with the advantageous scenario, so it’s just better.
who’s ready for another INSANELY AWESOME challenge
Me
@@matthew_bowronNice
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@@CJ-won2 MISNGAO. WOW WE R THE SMAE 2 mins
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And this is to go even further beyond! 1000x damage vs 1000x attack speed
Then 10000×
@@joey2244THAT'S OVER NINE THOUSAANNNND
100x speed + 100x damage vs 10,000 damage. So it don't lag out
So true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then 1000000000X speed and 1000000000X damage
What if
Sabre:Places banana farm*Gets 100k*
Tewtiy:*Gets 80000*
its banned
0:07 speed, honestly it's without a doubt the best unless there's a hard cap in the game
A monkey can't attack more than once a frame
(Disclaimer: I have no idea if that's true)
Bro I’ve been watching tewtiy before this channel was even a thing
Shoot mb wrong comment 💀😭
2:28 bros shooting sand
4:15 I get what you're putting down
1:46 bottom path alchamest lead to gold
usually i would pick attack speed so damage buffs would add tons of DPS, but the lag makes it not worth it so i would take damage.
BMA would be insane tho, and also banana farms top path
2:35 ITS LIKE A WHAT GUN?
The fact that tewtiy isn’t putting down any buffs is really the only reason he struggled. If he had down buffs he wouldn’t be struggling pre 300
He lost because he used terrible towers to use with 100x damage. It gets wasted in towers that don’t already have a fast firing rate. Should’ve just used a tack zone under MIB and primary expertise or an elite defender
Tewty should have gotten bommerange middle path
1:11 okay yeah right, but I think speed should still be better, but yes I forgot about that lag, so yes you're more likely to go further
Ray of doom alone basically destroys 100x speed also mad may not seem good for it but it already does good damage
I’d assume that the damage is better than speed simply because damage benefits more from pierce buffs
And yeah, do 100x speed and 100x damage again, but you're also allowed the farm mod so you can have up to a T7 farm
1:49 yaaaa
Do 100x balloons vs 100x balloon health please
Its the same thing
@@biggamer2k No its not, its like saying 100x attack power is the same as 100x speed. They both have there strengths and weaknesses. 100x health would be much better against quick but weak monkeys then 100x balloons. Where as 100x balloons would be worse against more powerful but slow monkeys.
@@biggamer2kno, because 100x bloons is worse for high damage low pierce towers but better early game so you arent facing a MOAB instead of a yellow.
4:10 WHAT?!?!
DUDE ALL I WANTED TO SEE IS THE POPS ON THE BLOON MASTER ALCHEMIST WHYYYYYY
Fr
It makes money which is cheating
@@gubbalabalaji5693it actually loses you money because you’d get more for popping it normally
@@gubbalabalaji5693It does but only the small balloons and needed to be in range. In fact getting a BMA is bad cause you won't make money.
2:35 a 4 year old's 2 brain cells discussing on what his big Brother is doing in the bathroom
Sabre could have just placed an M.A.D and a Ray of doom and would have won instantly.
Amount wins against defense
1 attack of 100 dmg vr Armor 99% =1 dmg
100 attacks of 1 dmg vr Armor 99% =100
0:05 speed because then I could just carry anything and drop/throw it to create strong forces. Speed seems more convenient too tho.
Bozo forgot about abrasion and just bursting into flames if u go too fast
@@yarg104yea true
@@yarg104Lets Just assume its the speedforce from the DC Comics (flash Power If you didnt know) cus then you can actually survive using your Power but it has the downside of needing you to slow down your thinking so a second doesnt feel Like an eternity
@@yarg104If I'm going down, I'll take you with me, WITH THIS SACRED TREASURE I SUMMO-
*gets blitzed*
Me fr would pick super speed cuz inf dodge
And mor da kinetic nrg of an object the harder it hits fr fr no cap
Next time tewity needs to get hard hitting towers as well
A moab eliminator can solo a BAD in about 5 uses of the ability
Times the damage by 100
It could probs 1 shot round 200 Fortified BADs
Its also INCREDIBLY CHEAP
I did the math. A MOAB Eliminator's ability assuming 100x damage would approximately two-shot a round 200 Fortified BAD. Because of the exponential scaling, that really won't amount to much in the end.
@@memerminecraft585 wow but that is still extremely strong
@@Combine_37 Extremely strong, but not too useful against round 300 FortBADs
@@memerminecraft585 what do u think would be the best tower for 300
@@Combine_37 With 100x damage, you'd pretty much want to play normally. Without farms, it's difficult to do anything useful though. Just the highest-damage fast-firing towers, I guess. But their relative lack of benefiting from buffs would cause issues.
0:45 wdym bottom path never pops lead?
Engineer
Monkey ace
Heli pilot
Mortar
Ninja
Alchemist
Dart monkey
Boomerang
They all pop lead bottom path
Ninja monkey can… and a lot more 1:43
6:00 Tewtiy casually not knowing that Alchemists can see and hit through walls by default
Put links to your mods in the description
POV Tewty: are you ok Sabre
Sabre: ummmmmmmmm
Tewty: What?
Sabre: I bought Super Mines
Tewty: ...
Alchemist can naturally see through all walls as a 0-0-0
0:09 100 damage projectiles don’t pop multiple bloons tewtiy. That’s pierce. 100 damage would be able to pop a Moab and DDT quickly but have no pierce.
8:07 *disco ball apears from the roof and a dance floor is made*
😭🔫🤬💰
Guys don’t forget to use creator code trewbre its TEWBRE
Not including lag atk speed is way better in terms of scaleing bc of towers such as BMA or bloon crush
bads are the biggest problem neither are useful late game
@@nathanwilder2161MAD
Hey Tewbre Can I Be Your Friends Because Im Hoping To Be A BTD 6 UA-camr! Anways Leme Get To The Real Point Paragon Idea:The Outcast...A Druid So Powerful That It Can Pop Zomgs In One Shot. I Think It Should Have Fire Tornados: Basically The Superstorm Tornados But They Are Red And Cause Fire Damage But Thats Just My Suggestion.
Day 324 of asking Tewbre to make a Ssundee mod.
ok
hes legit
You gotta chill 💀 and youe not lying I see you on every video bro 💀
He doesn’t make the mods dumbo
Yesssssss
"Can buckshot pop leads though?"
"No"
0-3-0 villages:
Balloon master alchemist makes money😅😅Sabre had an advantage
no 005 makes less money, 003 and 004 make money
It makes money to make up for all the money lost from converting the moabs to a red balloon, and even still he makes you lose money by doing that
I might be wrong but if you attack 100x as fast aren't you doing 100x as much damage
Yeah that doesn't seem right to me.
Only if you have enough time to hit the Bloons
0:02 bro's jacked
Supa speed
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On any damage multiplyer ray of doom is op
100x damage
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100x speed
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100x S- JK DAMAGE
100x speed
The divergence from eachother does make a lot if sense. I meen 100x attack speed and 100x damage are the same amount of damage but the speed causes that extra damage to be split among layers of hits rather then all at once. So the attack speed has the benefit of waisting less pops on overkills.
BTD6 heavily favors fast attack speeds due to most buffs being flat damage buffs. So x100 attack speed generally benefits more.
100x strength: nothing gets past my bow!
100x speed: everything gets past my bow
Bro Tew Druid middle Path 100 DMG is OP
Its probably better to use a fast attacking tower when you get 100x attack speed, for example:1x100 is less than 9x100
I’ve only been playing btd6 for a few weeks and I’m hooked. My little brother deleted my acc for revenge but I got a new one and am climbing the ranks again 💪
Attack speed is far superior because damage buffs are additive while attack speed increases are multiplicative
Do super monkey x1000 speed next
Imagine the tack zone 2ith 100x speed
Sorry ment with
Plus elite defender 100x speed
Me absolutely dying because Tewtiy didn’t get elite defender 💀💀
People who know overclocking farms increase banana production 🍌
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Beggar
What if Sabre had 100x speed but 1/10 damage and Tewtiy had 100x damage but 1/10 speed?
the into got me for some reason 💀
Super speed win
1 sec-1 attack 100× speed 100 attack
You have 2 sec to attack
Bloon hp 150
Super speed need 1,5 sec
Super damage need 2 sec
Imagine this with cross pathing
thats litrly the same thing 😂
Dude MAD for attack speed would’ve been insane
tewtiy: bottom path NEVER is able to pop leads
me: erm actually, what about boomerang
10 min gang
Tewtiy: hmmmm i need a good tower.
Me instantly: anty bloon gunner
Tewdiy: hmmm i will get an MAD
Base alchemist can see through walls.
I think speed is just better, expecially if you buff towers, the damage upgrades are all additive so you get diminishing returns in the tower strenght increase whit every damage buff (a +1 whit a 1 damage tower is a ×2 while a +1 whit a 10 damage tower is just a ×1.1) while the speed is a percentage increase that always makes a tower that percentage stronger
BANANA FARM!
Here’s an idea you guys should do
100x attack speed + no cooldowns
vs
1000x attack damage
Are you guys brothers? If so that adds up. Me and my brother play world of Warcraft together, we get goofy sometimes like you guys lol
Tewtiy you said that bottom bath never has lead but actually boomerang money bottom path has lead detection… fun a fun fact…
0:14 "Pew pew pew pew pew! :3"
They were INCHES away from getting the video age restricted
How
Speed honestly is better because speed means more attacks and more attacks means more power and more power means more damage
finally my boy spike factory gets some spotlight
💀tewity was thinking of the secret whip cream💀
I started playing btd6 because of you guys
2-0-5 on plane would be crazy for both of them
I bet they're going to tie Again because it's the exact same thing unlike the was 100x balloons for Sonic's money the money obviously one because the money is all money made not just bl balloons but anyways so yeah
Will never forgive tewty for missing tackzone
super speed “shakes my hand violently, and than punches” *QUANTUM PUNCHHHHHHHHHH*
here is the explanation if you go at a fast velocity it will hit the target then after hitting the target it will turn that velocity in to kinetic energy making it hit very hard and if its not simple enough, there is a move the flash use’s that uses his speed to punch extremely hard.
In both scenarios, a single 0-0-0 dart monkey could easily beat a MOAB!
Sabre keeps staring into my soul!!! Good content man!
10:20
“If I get my hands on super mines, *which I will*”
The fact Sabre used sauda instead of psi gives me physical pain
Imagine a Elite defender with 100X speed💀💀💀☠️☠️
What about Perma charge? Tewiy
When you have 2x speed on sabre saying : "oohhhhh a super britlle" sounds normal
2:17 the super monkey is gonna be crazy bro
Do you guys remember when Tewtiy played plants versus zombies Garden warfare two?? those were the good days
I’m at 5:40 please tell me he did perma spike
No moneymaking they said
:Sabre putting down bloon master alchemist😂
1 hour gang
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Is it jus me or does it seem like half the time tewty and Sabre seem baked asf