Tewbre, I have a great video idea: FIRST TO WIN LOSES A challenge where both of you guys compete in. The winner is whoever beats round 20 the SLOWEST. You guys aren't allowed to pause the game or slow it down. The regrow rate will be set off or really low (In the challenge browser slide) to avoid regrow Farm. And if you lose all your life, you lose the challenge. You can ofc modify the rules like setting the round to 15 or 40 or increasing the bloon speed. It'll be really interesting seeing how you guys stall the bloons without popping them. This is day 4, so I would love to see you guys try this.
100X attack speed will always win in small money set-up, 100X damage will technically win in high money set-up, just because of lag - 100x attack speed will just lose because of limited towers to put down
That said, 100x speed will always win in a theoretical no-lag situation because it doesn’t waste as much damage on overkill and can immediately target the next bloon. If super cerams didn’t exist it could be different though.
@@alexanderzhou5561 for overflow you can just have the tower shoot several projectiles in a frame if it would shoot faster than what is capped by the fps
@alexanderzhou5561 not quite because 100x attack speed benefits significantly more more +damage buffs that apply last like glue storm and embittered ment. With these two 100x speed does 800x damage while 100x damage does 107x damage
In a hypothetical scenario within the game BTD6, where attack speed is fixed at 100x and the choice is between 100x attack speed or 100x damage, opting for the increased attack speed could prove advantageous in certain situations. For instance, in rounds where numerous low-health bloons flood the screen, high damage per hit might result in wasted damage, as a single shot could overkill a low-health bloon while allowing another to sneak past defenses. With 100x attack speed, however, players can quickly dispatch each bloon individually, ensuring that no bloons slip through due to excessive damage. This rapid-fire approach allows for better control over damage output, minimizing the risk of inefficiency and maximizing the effectiveness of tower defenses against swarms of weaker enemies. (ChatGPT Generated)
So talking about bleed damage. The problem is it aint a problem after the early, and maybe mid game, since the 100x damage one was struggling cause of not being able to POP, so just raw dps
He lost because he used terrible towers to use with 100x damage. It gets wasted in towers that don’t already have a fast firing rate. Should’ve just used a tack zone under MIB and primary expertise or an elite defender
@@yarg104Lets Just assume its the speedforce from the DC Comics (flash Power If you didnt know) cus then you can actually survive using your Power but it has the downside of needing you to slow down your thinking so a second doesnt feel Like an eternity
I’ve only been playing btd6 for a few weeks and I’m hooked. My little brother deleted my acc for revenge but I got a new one and am climbing the ranks again 💪
Next time tewity needs to get hard hitting towers as well A moab eliminator can solo a BAD in about 5 uses of the ability Times the damage by 100 It could probs 1 shot round 200 Fortified BADs Its also INCREDIBLY CHEAP
I did the math. A MOAB Eliminator's ability assuming 100x damage would approximately two-shot a round 200 Fortified BAD. Because of the exponential scaling, that really won't amount to much in the end.
@@Combine_37 With 100x damage, you'd pretty much want to play normally. Without farms, it's difficult to do anything useful though. Just the highest-damage fast-firing towers, I guess. But their relative lack of benefiting from buffs would cause issues.
@@biggamer2k No its not, its like saying 100x attack power is the same as 100x speed. They both have there strengths and weaknesses. 100x health would be much better against quick but weak monkeys then 100x balloons. Where as 100x balloons would be worse against more powerful but slow monkeys.
0:09 100 damage projectiles don’t pop multiple bloons tewtiy. That’s pierce. 100 damage would be able to pop a Moab and DDT quickly but have no pierce.
The divergence from eachother does make a lot if sense. I meen 100x attack speed and 100x damage are the same amount of damage but the speed causes that extra damage to be split among layers of hits rather then all at once. So the attack speed has the benefit of waisting less pops on overkills.
You should do a challenge where instead of 100x you have half so half damage vs half attack speed it would be pretty cool I’ll use creator code tewbre😉
100x firing speed is better than 100x damage. You both have the same dps, BUT 100x firing speed gets more constant, and with something like tack shooter, any damage buff is absolutely op.
if your tower can hit a bloon 3 times in the map, however, and if there are no buffs then the 100x firing speed could hit it like ~250 times, meanwhile 100x damage could do 300 damage.
the fact tewtiy didnt get an elite defender hurts my soul 😭😭🙏🙏
Same😭
Thank got im nor the only one
Crossbow master would one shot a B.A.D
Me too 😭😭
@@nataliahines2934he got one and it clearly didnt
Tewbre, I have a great video idea: FIRST TO WIN LOSES
A challenge where both of you guys compete in. The winner is whoever beats round 20 the SLOWEST. You guys aren't allowed to pause the game or slow it down. The regrow rate will be set off or really low (In the challenge browser slide) to avoid regrow Farm. And if you lose all your life, you lose the challenge. You can ofc modify the rules like setting the round to 15 or 40 or increasing the bloon speed. It'll be really interesting seeing how you guys stall the bloons without popping them.
This is day 4, so I would love to see you guys try this.
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i thought i was tweaking seeing this again. dont give up tho 😂😂😂
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It's what everyone names their Glue Gunner
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4:14 also this clip
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100X attack speed will always win in small money set-up, 100X damage will technically win in high money set-up, just because of lag - 100x attack speed will just lose because of limited towers to put down
That said, 100x speed will always win in a theoretical no-lag situation because it doesn’t waste as much damage on overkill and can immediately target the next bloon. If super cerams didn’t exist it could be different though.
no 100 x damage will win hyper late game because there is an attack speed hardcap in the game
@@alexanderzhou5561 for overflow you can just have the tower shoot several projectiles in a frame if it would shoot faster than what is capped by the fps
@alexanderzhou5561 not quite because 100x attack speed benefits significantly more more +damage buffs that apply last like glue storm and embittered ment. With these two 100x speed does 800x damage while 100x damage does 107x damage
@@mherangelonunez7453 so right 😎
If speed isn't capped and there is no lag...speed is just better...
Nuh uh
@@yarg104yes...
nuh nah
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who’s ready for another INSANELY AWESOME challenge
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2:35 a 4 year old's 2 brain cells discussing on what his big Brother is doing in the bathroom
And this is to go even further beyond! 1000x damage vs 1000x attack speed
Then 10000×
@@joey2244THAT'S OVER NINE THOUSAANNNND
100x speed + 100x damage vs 10,000 damage. So it don't lag out
So true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then 1000000000X speed and 1000000000X damage
What if
Sabre:Places banana farm*Gets 100k*
Tewtiy:*Gets 80000*
its banned
0:07 speed, honestly it's without a doubt the best unless there's a hard cap in the game
A monkey can't attack more than once a frame
(Disclaimer: I have no idea if that's true)
Bro I’ve been watching tewtiy before this channel was even a thing
Shoot mb wrong comment 💀😭
In a hypothetical scenario within the game BTD6, where attack speed is fixed at 100x and the choice is between 100x attack speed or 100x damage, opting for the increased attack speed could prove advantageous in certain situations. For instance, in rounds where numerous low-health bloons flood the screen, high damage per hit might result in wasted damage, as a single shot could overkill a low-health bloon while allowing another to sneak past defenses. With 100x attack speed, however, players can quickly dispatch each bloon individually, ensuring that no bloons slip through due to excessive damage. This rapid-fire approach allows for better control over damage output, minimizing the risk of inefficiency and maximizing the effectiveness of tower defenses against swarms of weaker enemies. (ChatGPT Generated)
So talking about bleed damage. The problem is it aint a problem after the early, and maybe mid game, since the 100x damage one was struggling cause of not being able to POP, so just raw dps
@@normalchannel2185the late rounds have a ton of bloons popping a bloon isn’t just damage since they make more smaller balloons
Chat GPT ahh😭
@@dedelink you got me
100x attack speed also has the same dips as damage along with the advantageous scenario, so it’s just better.
The fact that tewtiy isn’t putting down any buffs is really the only reason he struggled. If he had down buffs he wouldn’t be struggling pre 300
He lost because he used terrible towers to use with 100x damage. It gets wasted in towers that don’t already have a fast firing rate. Should’ve just used a tack zone under MIB and primary expertise or an elite defender
1:11 okay yeah right, but I think speed should still be better, but yes I forgot about that lag, so yes you're more likely to go further
Ray of doom alone basically destroys 100x speed also mad may not seem good for it but it already does good damage
usually i would pick attack speed so damage buffs would add tons of DPS, but the lag makes it not worth it so i would take damage.
BMA would be insane tho, and also banana farms top path
0:05 speed because then I could just carry anything and drop/throw it to create strong forces. Speed seems more convenient too tho.
Bozo forgot about abrasion and just bursting into flames if u go too fast
@@yarg104yea true
@@yarg104Lets Just assume its the speedforce from the DC Comics (flash Power If you didnt know) cus then you can actually survive using your Power but it has the downside of needing you to slow down your thinking so a second doesnt feel Like an eternity
@@yarg104If I'm going down, I'll take you with me, WITH THIS SACRED TREASURE I SUMMO-
*gets blitzed*
4:15 I get what you're putting down
6:00 Tewtiy casually not knowing that Alchemists can see and hit through walls by default
And yeah, do 100x speed and 100x damage again, but you're also allowed the farm mod so you can have up to a T7 farm
I’ve only been playing btd6 for a few weeks and I’m hooked. My little brother deleted my acc for revenge but I got a new one and am climbing the ranks again 💪
Next time tewity needs to get hard hitting towers as well
A moab eliminator can solo a BAD in about 5 uses of the ability
Times the damage by 100
It could probs 1 shot round 200 Fortified BADs
Its also INCREDIBLY CHEAP
I did the math. A MOAB Eliminator's ability assuming 100x damage would approximately two-shot a round 200 Fortified BAD. Because of the exponential scaling, that really won't amount to much in the end.
@@memerminecraft585 wow but that is still extremely strong
@@Combine_37 Extremely strong, but not too useful against round 300 FortBADs
@@memerminecraft585 what do u think would be the best tower for 300
@@Combine_37 With 100x damage, you'd pretty much want to play normally. Without farms, it's difficult to do anything useful though. Just the highest-damage fast-firing towers, I guess. But their relative lack of benefiting from buffs would cause issues.
Go to 2:50 and tell me this guy isn't a creep
Day 324 of asking Tewbre to make a Ssundee mod.
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He doesn’t make the mods dumbo
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2:28 bros shooting sand
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Do 100x balloons vs 100x balloon health please
Its the same thing
@@biggamer2k No its not, its like saying 100x attack power is the same as 100x speed. They both have there strengths and weaknesses. 100x health would be much better against quick but weak monkeys then 100x balloons. Where as 100x balloons would be worse against more powerful but slow monkeys.
@@biggamer2kno, because 100x bloons is worse for high damage low pierce towers but better early game so you arent facing a MOAB instead of a yellow.
0:09 100 damage projectiles don’t pop multiple bloons tewtiy. That’s pierce. 100 damage would be able to pop a Moab and DDT quickly but have no pierce.
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DUDE ALL I WANTED TO SEE IS THE POPS ON THE BLOON MASTER ALCHEMIST WHYYYYYY
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It makes money which is cheating
@@gubbalabalaji5693it actually loses you money because you’d get more for popping it normally
@@gubbalabalaji5693It does but only the small balloons and needed to be in range. In fact getting a BMA is bad cause you won't make money.
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Sabre could have just placed an M.A.D and a Ray of doom and would have won instantly.
BTD6 heavily favors fast attack speeds due to most buffs being flat damage buffs. So x100 attack speed generally benefits more.
Ninja monkey can… and a lot more 1:43
Guys don’t forget to use creator code trewbre its TEWBRE
Not including lag atk speed is way better in terms of scaleing bc of towers such as BMA or bloon crush
bads are the biggest problem neither are useful late game
@@nathanwilder2161MAD
"Can buckshot pop leads though?"
"No"
0-3-0 villages:
Balloon master alchemist makes money😅😅Sabre had an advantage
no 005 makes less money, 003 and 004 make money
It makes money to make up for all the money lost from converting the moabs to a red balloon, and even still he makes you lose money by doing that
Me absolutely dying because Tewtiy didn’t get elite defender 💀💀
0:02 bro's jacked
It's awesome to see this back again. Keep up the awesome content.
Alchemist can naturally see through all walls as a 0-0-0
💀tewity was thinking of the secret whip cream💀
Put links to your mods in the description
I’d assume that the damage is better than speed simply because damage benefits more from pierce buffs
100x damage
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100x speed
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100x S- JK DAMAGE
100x speed
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Tewty: What?
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Tewty: ...
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2:35 ITS LIKE A WHAT GUN?
100x strength: nothing gets past my bow!
100x speed: everything gets past my bow
100x attack speed is better because not only does it have the same dps,but technically more peirce as theres so many projectiles. Also looks cool
0:45 wdym bottom path never pops lead?
Engineer
Monkey ace
Heli pilot
Mortar
Ninja
Alchemist
Dart monkey
Boomerang
They all pop lead bottom path
Sabre keeps staring into my soul!!! Good content man!
Are you guys brothers? If so that adds up. Me and my brother play world of Warcraft together, we get goofy sometimes like you guys lol
4:10 WHAT?!?!
the into got me for some reason 💀
Here’s an idea you guys should do
100x attack speed + no cooldowns
vs
1000x attack damage
Attack speed is far superior because damage buffs are additive while attack speed increases are multiplicative
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14:21 😂😂😂😂
Amount wins against defense
1 attack of 100 dmg vr Armor 99% =1 dmg
100 attacks of 1 dmg vr Armor 99% =100
The divergence from eachother does make a lot if sense. I meen 100x attack speed and 100x damage are the same amount of damage but the speed causes that extra damage to be split among layers of hits rather then all at once. So the attack speed has the benefit of waisting less pops on overkills.
Me fr would pick super speed cuz inf dodge
And mor da kinetic nrg of an object the harder it hits fr fr no cap
10:20
“If I get my hands on super mines, *which I will*”
1:46 bottom path alchamest lead to gold
0:14 "Pew pew pew pew pew! :3"
I've been watching you guys for 3 years now I've swapped devices but still continue to watch
Love your content keep it up! ❤❤
I started playing btd6 because of you guys
Do you guys remember when Tewtiy played plants versus zombies Garden warfare two?? those were the good days
What if Sabre had 100x speed but 1/10 damage and Tewtiy had 100x damage but 1/10 speed?
Imagine a Elite defender with 100X speed💀💀💀☠️☠️
finally my boy spike factory gets some spotlight
tewtiy: bottom path NEVER is able to pop leads
me: erm actually, what about boomerang
1:49 yaaaa
No moneymaking they said
:Sabre putting down bloon master alchemist😂
Imagine Elite Defender with 100X attack speed 💀💀💀
True
Sabre does singing with donkeys 😂❤❤❤
In both scenarios, a single 0-0-0 dart monkey could easily beat a MOAB!
2:17 the super monkey is gonna be crazy bro
Dude MAD for attack speed would’ve been insane
The Fact Sabre Using Inferno But Long Range Tacks😂
Its probably better to use a fast attacking tower when you get 100x attack speed, for example:1x100 is less than 9x100
The fact Sabre used sauda instead of psi gives me physical pain
Speed vs number of projectiles would be interesting to see if it makes any difference
You should do a challenge where instead of 100x you have half so half damage vs half attack speed it would be pretty cool I’ll use creator code tewbre😉
This is just what I needed after my adenoidectomy. Thank you so much tewbre!❤
how does sabre not realize he can turn vfx off in settings?
Speed is better because damage buffs add (ex: +2) while speed buffs multiply (ex: x1.2).
I might be wrong but if you attack 100x as fast aren't you doing 100x as much damage
Yeah that doesn't seem right to me.
Only if you have enough time to hit the Bloons
Imagine moab pushback with 100x speed💀☠️💀
2-0-5 on plane would be crazy for both of them
100x firing speed is better than 100x damage. You both have the same dps, BUT 100x firing speed gets more constant, and with something like tack shooter, any damage buff is absolutely op.
imagine ISAB playing with the 100x attack speed buff
if your tower can hit a bloon 3 times in the map, however, and if there are no buffs then the 100x firing speed could hit it like ~250 times, meanwhile 100x damage could do 300 damage.
@@evanhanchett893 but a +1 alch buff on a 100x speed 1 damage turns into 200x dps
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Is it jus me or does it seem like half the time tewty and Sabre seem baked asf
I've been watching Tewbre
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"Bottom path never gets lead popping."
The Necromancer and Legend of the Night (among others) has entered the chat.
4:09 😭😭😭💀💀💀💀
They were INCHES away from getting the video age restricted
How