I got married the day this released in theaters on August 1st 2014. On our honeymoon we went to Hawaii. On August 2nd, The wife and I ate a Hawaiian breakfast and right after we took a cab and the driver is like “you come to Hawaii and wanna go see a movie?” I said “yes sir” it was a good time.
I feel like when you get to the top tier of MCU movies, it's just a matter of personal preference because they're all really great movies. There's so many that come close to being my favorite.
The fact that everyone just nodded and acknowledged Tim when he said "Tim Gunn" instead of "Sean Gunn" is really funny to me. They're just so different, and thinking of Tim Gunn as a Ravager is kind of amazing.
Seriously. He used to talk directing and camerawork and shit like that. But basically his entire argument for Iron Man & Avengers is that they're "more awesome" than the others.
Nick, as much as i enjoy your opinion, a few of your arguments just don't make sense or lack logic^^ How does Avenger do the "everyone comes together" arc better than GotG, when you already know every character in Avengers through their origin movies, while GotG made us care about a WHOLE CAST of NEW characters coming together, which is WAY more difficult. Kevin and Andy made great points, while you just vented a bit too much without giving solid reasons except for the endfight comparison ;) Anyway great review everyone ! :D
My favorite part is Andy zoning out in order to work on a theme song for Nick's new ab podcast. Dude is always working, no time to get caught up in the fun bits!
I love this series overall, but nitpicking about points like the Nova's force field defences really slows down the discussion for me and doesn't add a lot.
Great episode!! I love when you guys have different opinions on where to rank a movie. It makes for a very cool discussion. That is what makes the MCU movies very cool, people can have very different opinions on there favorites. There is no one movie that is way better than the rest, but most are a least good. Here is my new ranking so far: 1. Avengers 2. Captain America: the Winter Soldier 3. Guardians of the Galaxy 4. Ironman 5. Black Panther 6. Ironman 2 7. Captain America: The First Avenger 8. Ironman 3 9. Thor the Dark World 10. Thor 11. Hulk Guardians of the Galaxy is an amazing MCU movie. It of course has great action and hilarious moments, but this movie also has some emotional moments with the beginning scene and the end with Star Lord reaching out for Gamora. Ranking this was really hard. I almost put GotG at 4, but I ended up putting it ahead of Ironman. - Zanfare
Kevin is right, of the movies covered thus far. This is number 1, I love the guardian movies, I think they’re so much better than the avengers. I often forget these movies are even marvel movies they stand alone so well!
Regarding Groot: in the comics there is a version of Groot that can talk and is actually very dark and brooding. I think we may see Baby Groot's personality diverge from Groot's as he grows up.
1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 9.5/10 2. The Avengers 9.5/10 3. Guardians of the Galaxy 9.5/10 4. Iron Man 9.0/10 5. Captain America: The First Avenger 8.5/10 6. Black Panther 8.0/10 7. Iron Man 3 8.0/10 8. The Incredible Hulk 7.0/10 9. Thor 7.0/10 10. Iron Man 2 6.0/10 11. Thor: The Dark World 6.0/10
You can see that blue frog in Yondu's ship. And after it crashes it is the only thing he picks out of the dirt. You can also see this crystal frog in Guardians 2 in the funeral scene. So don't miss it.
I just throw this out there, the 12% of a plan thing, Tim mentioned that it gets used other times, and on twitter at one point James Gunn said that a lot of writers use the number 12 for stuff like that because it's the highest one syllable number.
Nick seriously needs to re-watch Iron Man again... Somehow he's already delusional about it, I don't know how he could possibly say it's more "fun" than Guardians.
I think you're looking at fun from a different perspective than Nick may be. Without putting anything in Nick's mouth (words, heh) i'd imagine he just gets behind the vibe of Iron Man more. I mean, one of my favorite scenes in Iron Man is when they are testing out the "jericho" missile in the desert and it just blows up ridiculously, and he's all nonchalant about it. It's not a scene that's "funny" or fun, but it sets up the character and what he's about. There's not a lot of character development in Guardians. I dunno, I rewatched Iron Man recently and loved it. It's just good. It's highly entertaining, it's witty, it's well acted. Guardians is more jokey, Iron Man is more of a ride. Both great movies. Edit: Also, we agree on Guardians 2 being trash. I was so disappointed in that movied. Where I'd say 80% of the jokes were pretty good in Guardians, I'd say that like 20% worked in Guardians 2. So many forced bad jokes--and without Yondu's sacrifice (which was a little cheap), that movie isn't even remotely memorable to me.
We have moved past my top three MCU movies at this point, which are... 1.Captain America: Civil War (77%) 2.Guardians of the Galaxy (75%) 3.Black Panther (71%) I'll reiterate that Avengers sits rightfully near the bottom of my list. The only ones that I haven't rewatched, rated and ranked yet are Spiderman Homecoming and Thor Ragnarok. Looking forward to those two (the first MCU movies that I'll be watching in 4K with Dolby Vision), but I feel confident that they won't break top 3. edit: wait, nah I got mixed up between Winter Soldier and Civil War. KF hasn't hit Civil War yet. THAT should be interesting, especially considering Nicks fixation on ensemble stuff. So my ranking, discounting Civil War would be... 1.Guardians of the Galaxy (75%) 2.Black Panther (71%) 3.Iron Man 3 (69%)
Shout out to the tv edited version of this movie. Durring the scene where they are booking the Guardians and Starlord does the wind up middle finger, a small info box covers the finger for censorship, and i actually think that is funnier than the uncensored version
I recommend diving back into the Telltale game *Greg.* It really turns up after the first episode. Plus every episode is out now so you just cruise through it and it's of course an easy platinum.
I love how good the consistency is with MCU movies that Age of Ultron is the only movie that has the potential to rank lower than the current #5. I don't know how they are still doing it.
Oli Jackson the gap between black panther and iron man 2 is going to grow big time. Crazy they're only one spot apart but aren't even close in quality.
Tim didn't like that Rocket needed to explain that Groot would die doing the "We are Groot" thing because the audience wouldn't think that he'd die. Then it changed too "It's not earned that he sacrificed himself" but then it became "Oh yeah it's weird that they survived that so the other points now make sense" Also didn't Gamora, Drax and Rocket all sacrifice themselves by touching the Power Stone? They didn't know it would work. Didn't Starlord sacrifice himself for Gamora in space? Why were those earned by Groot's death wasn't?
Controversial opinion: This film hasn't aged as well as Avengers and has little depth aside from being a comedy. The sequel blows it away as a more character driven film.
I'm glad that Nick is there as a counter weight. I mean I love Guardians, but it's not the best MCU movie, which is basically what they're arguing right now...because besides homecoming it's not going to have much competition. I like do like the list though, for the most part, but i'd probably throw iron man ahead of avengers and I feel like guardians is on par with Avengers as far as my enjoyment is concerned. They're all fantastic movies, so it's not a big deal! I also agree with Nick that the sequence with the "net" was just silly. Also, I'd say that they aren't giving Iron Man enough credit either. It's a damned entertaining movie. The one problem I have with Guardians is that they try and throw jokes in where they do not belong at times, or they tell a joke that feels half baked and could probably have been improved upon! Do love the movie, but that would be a critique.
I feel like Groot had to die in GotG 1 because he was essentially their Get Out Of Anything card. Deus Ex Arboria, if you will. Giant badguy giving you shit? Groot. Thing you need is out of reach? Groot. Too dark to see? Groot. Two dozen bad guys come out of nowhere? Groot. Falling ship is going to pancake you and your new friends? Groot. As for the 'not earned' thing... I feel like it is very much earned, but it's not really overtly apparent. Groot is Rocket's humanity, in a way. He's a 'freak', like Rocket, his one true friend before all of this but he doesn't pander or acquiesce to Rocket. He's fiercely loyal, watches out for Rocket and sometimes steers him in the right direction when Rocket becomes overly chaotic or nihilistic. He's a partner. All of that is pretty well telegraphed from a character who only communicates in a three word phrase. Maybe it's a plot contrivance and Groot didn't need to die, but it delivered pathos in a way I don't think many of these movies have done, certainly not so effectively in a self contained movie. Like, I really enjoy a lot of these MCU movies, but Rocket mourning Groot after Ronan's defeat, openly weeping over the charred remains of the only thing that ever cared for or understood him?? I felt full on sympathy for Rocket. An animated raccoon that I didn't know shit one about before walking into the theater. That is CRAZY. I wouldn't change that series of events at all.
I was so excited to rewatch this movie, and then after I did I think I came to the realization the Guardians movies might just not be for me. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but especially the first act, just slogs and I don’t think everything quite works as well as I remember
If I had $1,000, I would take over the RaGuBaGu Twitter, and just spam it with the Dark Elves. Talking about how they're the best Bad Guys in the MCU, and that's a Rad Guys Fact! So, if someone DOES have an extra $1,000, please do that.
Nick. If the entire iron man movie was as good as the first 2/3, it would probably be the best movie in the whole MCU. But the final act is BAD. That weighs down the movie quite a bit.
10. Thor: The Dark World 9. The Incredible Hulk 8. Iron Man 2 7. Iron Man 3 6. Thor 5. Captain America: The First Avenger 4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3. The Avengers 2. Iron Man 1. Guardians of the Galaxy
I'll have to admit... in the last 6 years since Avengers came out, I have always been in the camp of saying, it's my favorite MCU movie of the entire saga. However, now that I have rewatched Guardians, I'm kinda switching to the side of "It's better than Avengers" (even by only a fraction). The thing is... The Avengers has a strong start, but the movie has a huge chunk where nothing is happening, like getting the Avengers on the helicarrier, flying around the helicarrier until the attack of brainwashed Hawkeye. Of course, the last half of the movie is god-like and it still has the most satisfying scenes of the entire MCU. Also due to the fact that this is the culmination of 5 movies that were shown before it. Guardians on the other side... also has some dragging parts, but they are gone quicker than in Avengers. And James Gunn actually managed to compress basically the entire first Phase of the MCU together and distilled it into this gem of a movie. Also 10cc's I'm not in love beats Eiffel 65's Blue (Da Ba Dee) by a mile as the best cold open intro song. (that subpodcast somehow is missing... rank the best pop & rock songs within the soundtracks).
My rankings so far 1) Winter Soldier 2) Avengers 3) Guardians of the Galaxy 4) Iron Man 5) Iron Man 3 6) Captain America: The First Avenger 7) Black Panther 8) Thor 9) Hulk 10) Iron Man 2 11) Thor The Dark World
Finally, watched Black Panther, here is the updated ranking. Movies 1) The Avengers 2) Black Panther 3) Captain America Winter Soldier 4) Guardians of the Galaxy 5) Iron Man II 6) Iron Man 7) Captain America 8) Iron Man III 9) Thor 10) Incredible Hulk 11) Thor II Villains S-Tier 1) Loki 2) Erik Killmonger 3) Justin Hammer A-Tier 4) Abomination 5) Red Skull 6) Arnim Zola 7) Whiplash B-Tier 8) Iron Monger 9) Aldrich Killian 10) Ronan C-Tier 11) Frost Giants 12) Dark Elves 13) Chitauri
I disagree. It’s much more than merely a comedy. There’s a large variation of emotions that play out through the Guardians- the film opens and ends with very heartbreaking scenes. Without the emotion and depth of the characters the film wouldn’t have resonated as much despite how funny it is. James Gunn balanced humor, heart, and pathos exceptionally well.
Osterman to me it feels more like he did what he had to to make a the movie work. And even with that quill and gamora fell flat. With gotg 2 they really shined but in this movie they were entirely one dimensional. Not to mention that every emotional moment in the movie was undercut by a comedic prattfall. Like groot died like 5 minutes ago and then starlord dances to distract ronan and ronan stops his overdramatic villain monologue to point out that he thinks that its weird that he's dancing. Yeah it's funny but it took the sails out of the emotional moment. It's a james gunn thing i think. He did the same thing in scooby doo, but there it worked because it wasn't also in the same universe as black panther winter soldier and iron man.
Considering he pitched the film to Marvel himself rather than them searching for a director to helm the property, he already knew how to make the film work and it did. I disagree with you in regards to Peter. He had depth and the emotional through-line and pathos in the story was largely connected to him and his relationship to others such as his mom, Yondu, and the guardians. The last scene is one of the most heartbreaking and satisfying scenes in the MCU because of Peter’s growth. Him finally opening the tape his mother gifted him after her death and listening to it as a single tear rolls down his cheek, gets me each time- And like a few other serious scenes in the film, it wasn’t undercut by a misplaced joke. The dance moment actually never distracted me from Groots death. I always felt the pathos and stakes remained intact as stopping Ronan by any means was imperative, despite how humorously ridiculous it was in doing so. It would’ve been jarring if Rocket was the one doing it, since he has a far deeper connection to Groot and his death clearly impacted him greatly. I think this was mostly Peter’s film, Vol. 2 is much more of an ensemble because they really did shine as a whole.
Osterman you made a lot of great points. I guess it just feels like it's insignificant to me because it feels out of place with the rest of the mcu, again to me. I'm really looking forward to infinity war for that reason though, to see them in a more serious environment, will they adapt or will everything else around them bend and be more comedic? Ya know?
Thanks. Even though we disagree I can kind of see where you’re coming from. Happy to have a civil and thoughtful discussion on youtube. Oh, and a clip from Infinity War involving the Guardians leaked a while ago. In it they’re taking the situation seriously as Peter is stealthily leading the team through an area I won’t spoil, and there’s a very subtle humorous moment where he commands the team to stop walking by putting his fist in the air followed up with them completely ignoring him. I find that great, since it’s in nature of the guardians without overtly being a joke that can potentially ruin the suspenseful tone of the scene. Hoping they’re portrayed just as appropriately as that in the film.
My rankings so far 1. Iron Man 2. Black Panther 3. Winter Soldier 4.Avengers 5. Iron Man 3 6. Guardians of the Galaxy 7. Iron Man 2 8. Capetian America 9. Thor 10. Hulk 11. Thor 2
Guardians is my favorite mcu movie. So good. The tone the pacing the comedy and the action are done just perfect. Did Tim forget about a huge ass ship crashing and blowing up? Pretty sure groot took a lot of damage. Come on Tim don't be dumb.
My ranking is so different from the KF ranking. Happy that Avengers was ranked higher than Guardians, but i lose sleep thinking about how Winter Soldier is ranked NUMBER ONE and Black Panther is getting pushed lower and lower.
Sigh,Obviously relying on the presence of a Nova,and his or her abilities, is the Novacore’s offensive measure for invading forces or whatever (The Nova core is the police force of the galaxy)..that’s why fans were hoping that Nathan Fillion was cast as Nova🤷🏾♂️
1) Black Panther 2) Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3) Iron Man 3 4) The Avengers 5) Iron Man 6) Captain America: The First Avenger 7) Guardians of the Galaxy 8) Iron Man 2 9) The Incredible Hulk 10) Thor 11) Thor: The Dark World
Guardians is the best overall film of all. Stands on its own as a great movie, introduces and gets you to care about a wacky group of characters, has incredible sense of style, the retro music isn't just inserted into the movie unlike in Suicide Squad it actually has a narrative purpose. It's incredibly funny but also has moments of sincerity and heart (Starlord seeing Rocket's back where he was tested on helps him understand why he's so standoffish, the "take my hand" moment at the end always has me tearing up). Endlessly rewatchable, heartfelt and fun while giving every character a moment for a cast of characters nobody cared about hasn't been done by any other Marvel movie this well in a single movie so I respecctfully disagree with the boys and it should be number 1 quite comfortably.
I agree with Nick, you guys are crazy if you think this is a better movie than Avengers. I feel like there's some leeway against Iron Man, but it's just not as well executed as Iron Man. Guardians is great, but it's too into itself.
Zephyr iron man would be the best movie in the MCU if the third act was as good as the first 2. But it wasn't. The third act falls apart. Guardians is great throughout, the ranking is sold.
I saw Guardians last year with my girlfriend, who is the biggest fan of that franchise ever as she was into it when it was just a comic. That being said, I didn't enjoy it that much. It felt like it was trying way too hard to be cool, and it had the characters become buddies far too quickly. I also found Draxx to be another "look he has Autism" trope character. There were certain points here where I just couldn't understand where these guys were coming from in why this movie was so good.
I feel we should get Kinda Funny Doodles for some of these plots... just saying.
maddoggnick96 It's called the movie.
Nicks laugh as 1:16:10 sounds like Iron Mans repulsor blast
LMAO someone actually dubbed it over iron Man, I think it was on the new show KF internet explorerz
Omg this makes me laugh so hard every time
Omg it does 😂😂😂😂
Winter Soldier is my number 1 in what i think is the best made MCU movie. GOTG is my personal favorite!
Joran Overvelde respect
Its crazy how excited I am for these shows now. The highlight of every Tuesday for me!
I got married the day this released in theaters on August 1st 2014. On our honeymoon we went to Hawaii. On August 2nd, The wife and I ate a Hawaiian breakfast and right after we took a cab and the driver is like “you come to Hawaii and wanna go see a movie?” I said “yes sir” it was a good time.
Life highlights
President C4 when I think back I wonder if I made the best use of my time in Hawaii. I think I made the right choice haha
I proposed to my girl after we watch Gradians!
I like Guardians way more than Avengers, it's probably favorite MCU movie. Great episode!
I have to say, Guardians is a better movie than Avengers for sure. It might even be better crafter that Winter S. too.
John M it's a close 2nd for me. Well now 3rd behind black panther. 1. Avengers 2. Black Panther 3. Guardians
I feel like when you get to the top tier of MCU movies, it's just a matter of personal preference because they're all really great movies. There's so many that come close to being my favorite.
The fact that everyone just nodded and acknowledged Tim when he said "Tim Gunn" instead of "Sean Gunn" is really funny to me. They're just so different, and thinking of Tim Gunn as a Ravager is kind of amazing.
He’s the tailor
I appreciate how Tim's coat matches the movie
The Sh!t Hole I honestly was wondering if he did that on purpose. I hope so
Nathan Farmer he knows what he's doing
The more of these I watch the less I trust Nicks opinions on film in general haha
Seriously. He used to talk directing and camerawork and shit like that. But basically his entire argument for Iron Man & Avengers is that they're "more awesome" than the others.
Nick, as much as i enjoy your opinion, a few of your arguments just don't make sense or lack logic^^
How does Avenger do the "everyone comes together" arc better than GotG, when you already know every character in Avengers through their origin movies, while GotG made us care about a WHOLE CAST of NEW characters coming together, which is WAY more difficult.
Kevin and Andy made great points, while you just vented a bit too much without giving solid reasons except for the endfight comparison ;)
Anyway great review everyone ! :D
Love this podcast!! 🤟🏽
I personally loved GoTG more than Avengers.
My favorite part is Andy zoning out in order to work on a theme song for Nick's new ab podcast. Dude is always working, no time to get caught up in the fun bits!
I love this series overall, but nitpicking about points like the Nova's force field defences really slows down the discussion for me and doesn't add a lot.
Especially from Nick who is defending Avengers as such a better movie when the plan to save NY in that movie was to nuke themselves. smh.
This is my favourite UA-cam show right now.. I've enjoyed rewatching these films more since I found this series. Thanks guys.
i agree with kevin. GOG is my #1 on the list.
Been looking forward to this one, love these reviews
Nick's obsession with the first Iron Man is getting outrageous
This. It's starting to get on my nerves.
At least it doesnt really have an impact on their ratings because he gets out voted every time haha
Yes! Like omg
Kostas Giannopoulos
It is on my top 5, but I also give it extra credits for kicking of the universe.
Kostas Giannopoulos
He likes it. Nothing wrong with that.
Great episode!! I love when you guys have different opinions on where to rank a movie. It makes for a very cool discussion. That is what makes the MCU movies very cool, people can have very different opinions on there favorites. There is no one movie that is way better than the rest, but most are a least good.
Here is my new ranking so far:
1. Avengers
2. Captain America: the Winter Soldier
3. Guardians of the Galaxy
4. Ironman
5. Black Panther
6. Ironman 2
7. Captain America: The First Avenger
8. Ironman 3
9. Thor the Dark World
10. Thor
11. Hulk
Guardians of the Galaxy is an amazing MCU movie. It of course has great action and hilarious moments, but this movie also has some emotional moments with the beginning scene and the end with Star Lord reaching out for Gamora. Ranking this was really hard. I almost put GotG at 4, but I ended up putting it ahead of Ironman. - Zanfare
The KF MCU Reviews are so entertaining. Movie criticism at it's finest ladies and gentlemen. 👏
Nick glad you are back ! I totally agree with your point of view on guardians
Kevin is right, of the movies covered thus far. This is number 1, I love the guardian movies, I think they’re so much better than the avengers. I often forget these movies are even marvel movies they stand alone so well!
I love Nick but his taste in movies is questionable.
Regarding Groot: in the comics there is a version of Groot that can talk and is actually very dark and brooding. I think we may see Baby Groot's personality diverge from Groot's as he grows up.
1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 9.5/10
2. The Avengers 9.5/10
3. Guardians of the Galaxy 9.5/10
4. Iron Man 9.0/10
5. Captain America: The First Avenger 8.5/10
6. Black Panther 8.0/10
7. Iron Man 3 8.0/10
8. The Incredible Hulk 7.0/10
9. Thor 7.0/10
10. Iron Man 2 6.0/10
11. Thor: The Dark World 6.0/10
You didn't rank Bautista's abs
You can see that blue frog in Yondu's ship. And after it crashes it is the only thing he picks out of the dirt.
You can also see this crystal frog in Guardians 2 in the funeral scene. So don't miss it.
HE WROTE SCOOBY-DOO!? I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!
maddoggnick96 YAAAAAAAAS
I just throw this out there, the 12% of a plan thing, Tim mentioned that it gets used other times, and on twitter at one point James Gunn said that a lot of writers use the number 12 for stuff like that because it's the highest one syllable number.
If these guys had the time it would have been cool to see a watch along series for this. But I love this too, thanks!
Nick seriously needs to re-watch Iron Man again... Somehow he's already delusional about it, I don't know how he could possibly say it's more "fun" than Guardians.
AwesomeNick94
Because rdj is just that amazing
Because Guardians is the most overrated movie in recent history.
I'd agree if we were talking about Guardians 2, that was fucking trash. The first movie totally belongs at #3 on their current list.
I think you're looking at fun from a different perspective than Nick may be. Without putting anything in Nick's mouth (words, heh) i'd imagine he just gets behind the vibe of Iron Man more. I mean, one of my favorite scenes in Iron Man is when they are testing out the "jericho" missile in the desert and it just blows up ridiculously, and he's all nonchalant about it. It's not a scene that's "funny" or fun, but it sets up the character and what he's about. There's not a lot of character development in Guardians.
I dunno, I rewatched Iron Man recently and loved it. It's just good. It's highly entertaining, it's witty, it's well acted.
Guardians is more jokey, Iron Man is more of a ride. Both great movies.
Edit: Also, we agree on Guardians 2 being trash. I was so disappointed in that movied. Where I'd say 80% of the jokes were pretty good in Guardians, I'd say that like 20% worked in Guardians 2. So many forced bad jokes--and without Yondu's sacrifice (which was a little cheap), that movie isn't even remotely memorable to me.
I think it was the movie that he didn’t watch in so long that it was so fun for him to rewatch and he is holding on to the “fun” he had rewatching it.
We have moved past my top three MCU movies at this point, which are...
1.Captain America: Civil War (77%)
2.Guardians of the Galaxy (75%)
3.Black Panther (71%)
I'll reiterate that Avengers sits rightfully near the bottom of my list. The only ones that I haven't rewatched, rated and ranked yet are Spiderman Homecoming and Thor Ragnarok. Looking forward to those two (the first MCU movies that I'll be watching in 4K with Dolby Vision), but I feel confident that they won't break top 3.
edit:
wait, nah I got mixed up between Winter Soldier and Civil War. KF hasn't hit Civil War yet. THAT should be interesting, especially considering Nicks fixation on ensemble stuff. So my ranking, discounting Civil War would be...
1.Guardians of the Galaxy (75%)
2.Black Panther (71%)
3.Iron Man 3 (69%)
i love watching them come to the end of the argument at 1:23:13 and greggs just like hmm, what will i choose.. who will i upset..
agree with nick on all his points guardians ranks high for me too but ironman avengers and winter soldier are the far superior movies
wait, Nick doesn't agree that Winter Soldier is #1? THAT is blasphemous!
Glenn Close was actually in Hook. She is dressed as a male pirate that gets put in the "boo boo box"
Shout out to the tv edited version of this movie. Durring the scene where they are booking the Guardians and Starlord does the wind up middle finger, a small info box covers the finger for censorship, and i actually think that is funnier than the uncensored version
Same with the trailer
This film changed the whole direction of the marvel films. It made all marvel films not take them self too serious. I loved this film
Retrospectively coming off of XCU in review 39:35 is so much more funny now. "Lets put Kevin Bacon in RaguBagu" hahaha silly Nick
perfect ranking, that top 3 is spot on so far!
Kevin is in the honeymoon phase for every episode
I’ve been running behind on this series, can some explain ragu bagu please? Thanks in advance
I’m pretty sure that the last easter egg that “no one has found” was found…if anyone doubts me i’ll reply with the link.
I recommend diving back into the Telltale game *Greg.* It really turns up after the first episode. Plus every episode is out now so you just cruise through it and it's of course an easy platinum.
I love GOTG way more than The Avengers, my favorite MCU movie hands down. LOVE the podcast!
This was and still is one of my favorite movies in the MCU. I'm so ready to see what the guys think of this.
By far the most fun MCU movie. So glad to see the impact of this movie on Thor 3, absolutely reinvigorated my faith in the MCU.
22 minutes mark, Andy just dies and nobody notices! You guys kill me
I love how good the consistency is with MCU movies that Age of Ultron is the only movie that has the potential to rank lower than the current #5. I don't know how they are still doing it.
Oli Jackson the gap between black panther and iron man 2 is going to grow big time. Crazy they're only one spot apart but aren't even close in quality.
Great episode guys! Greg, during RaguBagu, I think you meant to say "Academy Award Winner Sam Rockwell" ;)
Tim didn't like that Rocket needed to explain that Groot would die doing the "We are Groot" thing because the audience wouldn't think that he'd die. Then it changed too "It's not earned that he sacrificed himself" but then it became "Oh yeah it's weird that they survived that so the other points now make sense"
Also didn't Gamora, Drax and Rocket all sacrifice themselves by touching the Power Stone? They didn't know it would work. Didn't Starlord sacrifice himself for Gamora in space? Why were those earned by Groot's death wasn't?
Controversial opinion: This film hasn't aged as well as Avengers and has little depth aside from being a comedy. The sequel blows it away as a more character driven film.
Totally agree with Kevin and Andy on this, I think GOTG is top of the list.
I'm glad that Nick is there as a counter weight. I mean I love Guardians, but it's not the best MCU movie, which is basically what they're arguing right now...because besides homecoming it's not going to have much competition.
I like do like the list though, for the most part, but i'd probably throw iron man ahead of avengers and I feel like guardians is on par with Avengers as far as my enjoyment is concerned. They're all fantastic movies, so it's not a big deal!
I also agree with Nick that the sequence with the "net" was just silly. Also, I'd say that they aren't giving Iron Man enough credit either. It's a damned entertaining movie. The one problem I have with Guardians is that they try and throw jokes in where they do not belong at times, or they tell a joke that feels half baked and could probably have been improved upon! Do love the movie, but that would be a critique.
Awersome episode. With Kevin though Guardians is my number 1.
Drax: Why call the little one Groot if he isn't the same?
Rocket: Eh, I don't wanna find a new name for each time this happens.
I feel like Groot had to die in GotG 1 because he was essentially their Get Out Of Anything card. Deus Ex Arboria, if you will.
Giant badguy giving you shit? Groot. Thing you need is out of reach? Groot. Too dark to see? Groot. Two dozen bad guys come out of nowhere? Groot. Falling ship is going to pancake you and your new friends? Groot.
As for the 'not earned' thing... I feel like it is very much earned, but it's not really overtly apparent. Groot is Rocket's humanity, in a way. He's a 'freak', like Rocket, his one true friend before all of this but he doesn't pander or acquiesce to Rocket. He's fiercely loyal, watches out for Rocket and sometimes steers him in the right direction when Rocket becomes overly chaotic or nihilistic. He's a partner. All of that is pretty well telegraphed from a character who only communicates in a three word phrase.
Maybe it's a plot contrivance and Groot didn't need to die, but it delivered pathos in a way I don't think many of these movies have done, certainly not so effectively in a self contained movie. Like, I really enjoy a lot of these MCU movies, but Rocket mourning Groot after Ronan's defeat, openly weeping over the charred remains of the only thing that ever cared for or understood him?? I felt full on sympathy for Rocket. An animated raccoon that I didn't know shit one about before walking into the theater.
That is CRAZY. I wouldn't change that series of events at all.
Calling it now... they will be surprised by how good Ultron was and rank it above black panther
Pablo Ovalle
No way ... maybe lol
Or they will realize that it is better than Avengers but somehow still worse than most everything else and will lose all hope in life.
Ultron was hot trash.
Now up to where we are now my top 3 are 1. Black Panther
2. Thor: Ragnarok
3. Guardians Of The Galaxy
love Greg's recaps on the story
I was so excited to rewatch this movie, and then after I did I think I came to the realization the Guardians movies might just not be for me. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but especially the first act, just slogs and I don’t think everything quite works as well as I remember
thumbs up to andy and kevin. nick just refuses to listen to other people trying to make their point he wont stop interupting
If I had $1,000, I would take over the RaGuBaGu Twitter, and just spam it with the Dark Elves. Talking about how they're the best Bad Guys in the MCU, and that's a Rad Guys Fact!
So, if someone DOES have an extra $1,000, please do that.
Thank you Nick for not backing down. Avengers is a better movie
Nick. If the entire iron man movie was as good as the first 2/3, it would probably be the best movie in the whole MCU. But the final act is BAD. That weighs down the movie quite a bit.
This was a great review but I’m still not over the fact that Bill O’Reilly was accidentally mentioned here.
Greg is my special boy.
10. Thor: The Dark World
9. The Incredible Hulk
8. Iron Man 2
7. Iron Man 3
6. Thor
5. Captain America: The First Avenger
4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
3. The Avengers
2. Iron Man
1. Guardians of the Galaxy
So has this show turned into just one long recap of the movie?
I'll have to admit... in the last 6 years since Avengers came out, I have always been in the camp of saying, it's my favorite MCU movie of the entire saga. However, now that I have rewatched Guardians, I'm kinda switching to the side of "It's better than Avengers" (even by only a fraction). The thing is... The Avengers has a strong start, but the movie has a huge chunk where nothing is happening, like getting the Avengers on the helicarrier, flying around the helicarrier until the attack of brainwashed Hawkeye. Of course, the last half of the movie is god-like and it still has the most satisfying scenes of the entire MCU. Also due to the fact that this is the culmination of 5 movies that were shown before it. Guardians on the other side... also has some dragging parts, but they are gone quicker than in Avengers. And James Gunn actually managed to compress basically the entire first Phase of the MCU together and distilled it into this gem of a movie. Also 10cc's I'm not in love beats Eiffel 65's Blue (Da Ba Dee) by a mile as the best cold open intro song. (that subpodcast somehow is missing... rank the best pop & rock songs within the soundtracks).
My rankings so far
1) Winter Soldier
2) Avengers
3) Guardians of the Galaxy
4) Iron Man
5) Iron Man 3
6) Captain America: The First Avenger
7) Black Panther
8) Thor
9) Hulk
10) Iron Man 2
11) Thor The Dark World
Instead of rewatching the mcu movies, rewatching all the mcu in reviews 😁
abi_soto Nice man I’m doing both
@@turdferguson8266 Same!
Finally, watched Black Panther, here is the updated ranking.
Movies
1) The Avengers
2) Black Panther
3) Captain America Winter Soldier
4) Guardians of the Galaxy
5) Iron Man II
6) Iron Man
7) Captain America
8) Iron Man III
9) Thor
10) Incredible Hulk
11) Thor II
Villains
S-Tier
1) Loki
2) Erik Killmonger
3) Justin Hammer
A-Tier
4) Abomination
5) Red Skull
6) Arnim Zola
7) Whiplash
B-Tier
8) Iron Monger
9) Aldrich Killian
10) Ronan
C-Tier
11) Frost Giants
12) Dark Elves
13) Chitauri
I feel like it goes below black panther. It's honestly kind of just a comedy where so many of these movies are more than that.
I disagree. It’s much more than merely a comedy. There’s a large variation of emotions that play out through the Guardians- the film opens and ends with very heartbreaking scenes. Without the emotion and depth of the characters the film wouldn’t have resonated as much despite how funny it is. James Gunn balanced humor, heart, and pathos exceptionally well.
Osterman to me it feels more like he did what he had to to make a the movie work. And even with that quill and gamora fell flat. With gotg 2 they really shined but in this movie they were entirely one dimensional. Not to mention that every emotional moment in the movie was undercut by a comedic prattfall. Like groot died like 5 minutes ago and then starlord dances to distract ronan and ronan stops his overdramatic villain monologue to point out that he thinks that its weird that he's dancing. Yeah it's funny but it took the sails out of the emotional moment. It's a james gunn thing i think. He did the same thing in scooby doo, but there it worked because it wasn't also in the same universe as black panther winter soldier and iron man.
Considering he pitched the film to Marvel himself rather than them searching for a director to helm the property, he already knew how to make the film work and it did. I disagree with you in regards to Peter. He had depth and the emotional through-line and pathos in the story was largely connected to him and his relationship to others such as his mom, Yondu, and the guardians. The last scene is one of the most heartbreaking and satisfying scenes in the MCU because of Peter’s growth. Him finally opening the tape his mother gifted him after her death and listening to it as a single tear rolls down his cheek, gets me each time- And like a few other serious scenes in the film, it wasn’t undercut by a misplaced joke. The dance moment actually never distracted me from Groots death. I always felt the pathos and stakes remained intact as stopping Ronan by any means was imperative, despite how humorously ridiculous it was in doing so. It would’ve been jarring if Rocket was the one doing it, since he has a far deeper connection to Groot and his death clearly impacted him greatly. I think this was mostly Peter’s film, Vol. 2 is much more of an ensemble because they really did shine as a whole.
Osterman you made a lot of great points. I guess it just feels like it's insignificant to me because it feels out of place with the rest of the mcu, again to me. I'm really looking forward to infinity war for that reason though, to see them in a more serious environment, will they adapt or will everything else around them bend and be more comedic? Ya know?
Thanks. Even though we disagree I can kind of see where you’re coming from. Happy to have a civil and thoughtful discussion on youtube.
Oh, and a clip from Infinity War involving the Guardians leaked a while ago. In it they’re taking the situation seriously as Peter is stealthily leading the team through an area I won’t spoil, and there’s a very subtle humorous moment where he commands the team to stop walking by putting his fist in the air followed up with them completely ignoring him. I find that great, since it’s in nature of the guardians without overtly being a joke that can potentially ruin the suspenseful tone of the scene. Hoping they’re portrayed just as appropriately as that in the film.
My rankings so far
1. Iron Man
2. Black Panther
3. Winter Soldier
4.Avengers
5. Iron Man 3
6. Guardians of the Galaxy
7. Iron Man 2
8. Capetian America
9. Thor
10. Hulk
11. Thor 2
Guardians is my favorite mcu movie. So good. The tone the pacing the comedy and the action are done just perfect.
Did Tim forget about a huge ass ship crashing and blowing up? Pretty sure groot took a lot of damage. Come on Tim don't be dumb.
Proof that Andy is a god at 30:32
If he pulled that out of his ass for real. Bravo my boy.... bravo
thanks, man!
I like Andy as much as the next guy, but I find your criteria for deities to be wanting....
Loved the video, but in the end credits, Portillo should've been Cosmo
Guardians is far better than the Avengers and Winter Soldier. Not even close.
Andy giving Nick a run for his money on the impression Front.
Oh god the hilarity starting at like 21:38 is too good for this broken world
What about the abs from black panther??
Gregs planet naming so bad Andy went and through up on himself
My ranking is so different from the KF ranking. Happy that Avengers was ranked higher than Guardians, but i lose sleep thinking about how Winter Soldier is ranked NUMBER ONE and Black Panther is getting pushed lower and lower.
Sigh,Obviously relying on the presence of a Nova,and his or her abilities, is the Novacore’s offensive measure for invading forces or whatever (The Nova core is the police force of the galaxy)..that’s why fans were hoping that Nathan Fillion was cast as Nova🤷🏾♂️
1) Black Panther
2) Captain America: The Winter Soldier
3) Iron Man 3
4) The Avengers
5) Iron Man
6) Captain America: The First Avenger
7) Guardians of the Galaxy
8) Iron Man 2
9) The Incredible Hulk
10) Thor
11) Thor: The Dark World
I agree with nick its 4 best no more,kevin is crazy to put it number 1 but i guess you like what you like
I’d love to see you guys do the X-men movies when you’re done the marvel films
Guardians and Ragnarok are a toss up for my #1.
1. Avengers
2. Guardians of the galaxy
3. RDJ
4. Cap 2
5. RDJ 2
6. Cap 1
7. RDJ 3
8. Black Panther
9. Hulk
10. Thor 2
11. Thor
I agree with Kevin. It’s #1
Guardians is the best overall film of all. Stands on its own as a great movie, introduces and gets you to care about a wacky group of characters, has incredible sense of style, the retro music isn't just inserted into the movie unlike in Suicide Squad it actually has a narrative purpose. It's incredibly funny but also has moments of sincerity and heart (Starlord seeing Rocket's back where he was tested on helps him understand why he's so standoffish, the "take my hand" moment at the end always has me tearing up). Endlessly rewatchable, heartfelt and fun while giving every character a moment for a cast of characters nobody cared about hasn't been done by any other Marvel movie this well in a single movie so I respecctfully disagree with the boys and it should be number 1 quite comfortably.
"We have nets to throw at bad guys in case they throw fish at us!" Hahaha!!!
Missed opportunity yo use Portilo as Cosmo.
22:47 “He looks like a nigga roll-mat.”
Glenn Close has said she only did the movie for the money.
Alexander Greitl
I work at my job just for the money 🤷♂️
I agree with Nick, you guys are crazy if you think this is a better movie than Avengers. I feel like there's some leeway against Iron Man, but it's just not as well executed as Iron Man. Guardians is great, but it's too into itself.
Zephyr iron man would be the best movie in the MCU if the third act was as good as the first 2. But it wasn't. The third act falls apart. Guardians is great throughout, the ranking is sold.
Kevin, Djimon Hounsou was bald in Gladiator...
I enjoy these more than the movies!!!!
As long as it's above iron man im cool. Wouldn't be mad at the 2 spot.
Why is it Michael B Jordan for ragubagu and not erik killmonger?
why does greg talk about cancer milk duds? who knows...
Who do you think about when you go to bed at night? Michael B Jordan or killmonger
Zane A. So you didn't notice "Sam Rockwell and Mickey Rourke in Iron Man 2"? It's just the way it is, man!
Michael B Jordan made a woman break her retainer from his abs alone... he is the worst of all villains ..
I saw Guardians last year with my girlfriend, who is the biggest fan of that franchise ever as she was into it when it was just a comic. That being said, I didn't enjoy it that much. It felt like it was trying way too hard to be cool, and it had the characters become buddies far too quickly. I also found Draxx to be another "look he has Autism" trope character. There were certain points here where I just couldn't understand where these guys were coming from in why this movie was so good.