This is just my interpretation, but I think they might be the 'white winged maidens, who are Death's gentle envoys' in the Winged Scythe description. It always bothered me that no other item would mention these 'white winged maidens', and there weren't any creatures, bosses, or enemies who really had white wings that stood out. That's what I thought until I realized I was completely fixated on the classic white winged angel imagery. These bat ladies are definitely maidens, and they have white wings, and they were suspiciously mysterious despite being a pretty memorable enemy. The reason why I think they are lamenting is the fact that after Marika removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, natural death doesn't exist anymore. The natural cycle of life and death is disturbed, and perhaps in the eyes of a maiden who serve Death, death might simply be a different form of birth.
Either death could be a different form of birth, or the bat women were meant to be surrogates and adoptive mothers of souls, guiding them where they were meant to go in the afterlife. Their songs could be either lures or beacons
Agreed! The use of magic and Death Hexes suggest they align with pre-Golden Order civilizations, and if they once had a (Holy!) ability to reduce the effects of Flasks of Tears, that would've made them quite the natural enemies of Marika's reign.
3:47 , 8:27 This is not "Crown" this is "Kokoshnik" Kokoshniks were common in the Eastern, Northern and Central provinces of European Russia, as well as Siberia. Kokoshniks were decorated with various ornaments that served as amulets and symbolized fertility and marital fidelity. In Slavic/Russian pagan myths/fairy tales there are also 3 Birds with a female face (“Sirin”, “Alkonost”, “Gamayun”)
One of my favorite moments in this game was seeing this as an in-world illustration of how a siren lures victims. Hear an intriguing song, get close, get attacked. Was brilliant
@@errorcode9542 that was my first death that I put the controller down after and went and regaled my partner with my tale of wonder and embarrassment! Oooooooh that's that singing I hear? Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh fuck she banshee wailed into my ears 🤣
Imagine spending 20 years in academia studying music theory, symbolism, and historical performance practice to wander up on a mob singing a lacrimae. Thinking "oh awesome, this is such an amazing ga--" only to be launched off the ledge by another angry shouting bat to my doom below. That was my introduction to these bat singers. ☠️
If I had to guess, these bats predate the golden order, as the ghost flame was part of the rites of the Death Birds. Marika's golden order excluded all other death rituals and began the hatred of mutants, so that's what fits best to me.
The magma sorceries talks about Rykard unearthing ancient hexes of gelmir that he retrofitted. He also shares the same jewelry as the pale bat. Considering where the pale bat resides and the amount of bats converging at Gelmir this leads me to believe that these bats are the original inhabitants of Gelmir. Back before even the age of Godfrey they were a clergy to the Deathrite birds before being assimilated into the Erdtree religion and eventually thrown away like all other misbegotten when godfrey fell. Now without any guidance they are devolving, the Bat people are reverting back into a more beastly form with only a few older generations still clinging to their history. Weak, Rykard has no problem pillaging and defiling their history. Keeping their jewelry for himself and retrofitting the ancient gelmir hexes for his benefit. They are grim reminders that Rykard and The Erdtree are two sides of the same coin, willing to crush and destroy any culture or civilization to further their goal.
Whenever DLC package gets added to ""development"" depot of steam database, it usually takes a month for trailer drop. Happened with Dark souls 3 & now with Elden ring. *DLC trailer should be out in the next 30 days*
@@COHOFSohamSengupta Streamer on Twitch (not Lance). Did not sound like a troll at all. Didn't want to say anything else though. Next Tuesday, let's see what's what then.
I recall the first time i encountered these bat ladies. It was in Limegrave. I looked around for around 10 minutes until i realized that the song is coming from a mob! Afterwards, i spent another 30 minutes just sneaking around and resetting, listening to the song and studying them. It honestly was a magical moment, especially when other people started translating their song. Maybe their purpose is to be enigmatic or raise curiosity in players and nothing lore related. Just something to keep us awake at night wondering what's their story.
Nothing will beat that feeling of listening this song for the first time and wondering where is it coming from and then finding out it's from a mother bat. I did the same when I first found them. Sneaking around and studying them and just purely listening in awe. I think this is the moment I was like... yeah, this game is pure perfection!
My encounter was the same. The minute I heard the song I was captivated but then I wondered From Soft has done such a good job with this siren enemy. Anyone who is new to the game (and there would be lots of new players) would be forced to seek them out leading to the doom. I actually tried the lock on to see if these were actual enemies or NPCs.
I too spent longer than I care to admit just listening. Personally I couldn't believe what I was hearing. As a speaker of Latin I understood every word, but that didn't take anything away from the experience. If anything, I was even more impressed that the words had real meaning. Credit to Antonius Tertius for his great work in translating the song
I love the idea that the bat women are the figures depicted in the libation statues, disfigured into bats. That would make them living legends hidden in plain sight. I just dont understand how or why thst might have happened. The only similar "disfigurement" I can think of is Godwin, but why bats? That doesnt fit the aquatic theme. I feel like there is still a missong puzzle piece or two needed to make sense of this.
I remember on my 1st playthrough just trotting around through southern limgrave. When I started hearing what I thought was Latin chanting, and hearing it in the middle of the woods was somewhat creepy. Reminded me of the singing maiden the tower of latria in demons souls. Took me a good minute to find it, too. It was on a ledge on the cliff face, so I thought I was going insane trying to find it. Definitely one of my favorite discoveries in the game.
I always had a headcannon that they are the mothers of the first Misbegotten. I think they could be the ones who made contact with the Crucible and were punished with chimaera children, and also turned to human-bat chimaera themselves.
Always love watching your Elden Ring videos while listening to Metroid music in the background. My two favorite things! I always find it hard to defeat them bc I always just wanna sit and listen. It's just so damn amazing.
I'm surprised no one fully went into depth about all the jellyfish spirits all around the map . There are descriptions about no new births in elden ring, which would give more clues as to why all of the children in elden ring are jellyfish spirits rather than being undead or other creatures.
My first playthrough of Elden Ring, I fell victim to a harpy's song. I was entranced and helpless to her somber ballad and I foolishly walked around and searched for the source only to be surprised to find this ghastly bat woman and got the shit kicked outta me. 10 outta 10.
Going with the mythological elements, my theory is that Marika cursed mothers in her despair at losing Godwyn. Similar to the tale of Arachne or basically any other human woman in Greek myth.
As for the rare variant of the bat/harpy, the silver sigil on the top of their crown resembles the Confessor starting class. Not sure what this could mean. I did my best to sneak past them unnoticed because I didn't want the singing to stop. I would've liked for one to be slightly out of the way of the Tarnished's path so we could keep listening to it. Too much music in FS games is interrupted by battles or hard to hear due to fighting noises. Regardless, From's music team smash out another hauntingly beautiful piece.
I'm no longer sure of my sources and much might be head cannon but I think they are careers for the people who became Dragons like Makar (this is what the game warns you that you might become if you use too many dragon sorceries) and Makar f. ex. works as a defense-against the spread of rot through the choke point that is the ruin strewn precipice (which justifies lore-wise why getting from Liurnia to the Altus Plateau) ie. because Fire beat Rot. at least in Makar's case they have a ancient Giant Land Octopus imprisoned on a ledge just popping out babies to feed Makar (which explains why you find a "Land" Octopus more than halfway up a mountain, And that Magma Wyrms eat Land Octopus babies explains why they are mortal enemies, as seen in the mountain tops of the giants where one can help you beat Magma Wyrm Theodorix) also regarding the Giant Land Octopus on a ledge its on top of a body that has a sword so old the description only mentions its from a distant place a long ass time ago so it creates more questions than answers... This all makes me assume the bats and the Magma Wyrms are ancient human(oid)s that have been fighting off the rot ever since that became an issue, which would explain the depressed lyrics of the bats, it also probably means they blame this golden one for the shattering and or the rot and or deathblight... (there is also this finger reader that laments how horrible it is to see Godwyn in his current state and that he should have died a honorable death, she says this in a way that make it seem like his deathblight was his fault) This is pretty disjointed I have a headache I just wanted to write down the gist of it all, tho I'm forgetting details. TL:DR; The bat women are sad because they have to farm Octopy-babies for eternity to feed the Magma Wyrms to stave off the Rot and or deathblight while all they remember is how cool things used to be before Godwyn went all Squid-blight and that they blame the golden one who I think would be the cause of the shattering.
Them singing explains why the music changes around them, i never paid enough attention to it, on account of trying to either sneak through or run past without getting wrecked even with 40+ vigor.
I think there were some assumptions made from the song that can't actually be taken. Primarily, just because they are singing the song it does not mean it is a first hand account. So those first two conclusions, that the sirens were present and that they were disfigured to stop their motherhood, cannot be drawn. Songs can be ways of record keeping / keeping histories. Poetry was originally composed orally and sung for the sake of remembering cultural histories before the culture obtains writing. (Bats have wings and not hands, so it makes sense they sing to tell histories still). The songs could just be accounts of Marika's rise to and the beginning of the golden order, withiut necessarily being about the sirens. Other creatures, like the Trolls, underwent significant transformation under the golden order, as the trolls are descendants of the giants. The lack of death could have something to do with their lack of being able to give birth. It's an intentionally open question.
Doubt youll see this zio. But I have a theory that suggests the age of plenty was a by product of marika's pregnancy with the omen twins. Because, mohg and morgott are omens they possess overflowing life which would naturally effect marika and by proxy the erdtree. Now, about godwynes anger. It's entirely possible godwyne was angered by the information that Marika casted the twins into the sewers which tracks because we know he seemed to care about the other cursed twins Malenia and miquella. Mohg and morgott were born the way they are and maybe in godwynes eyes. They'd done nothing wrong.
huh thats crazy cuz i was playing elden yesterday and came across the bats singing and it creeped me out. I also was hoping you made a video about them cuz i was curious about their lore
Since you mentioned Wraithcallers and curses, would you make a video, or at least a plausible explanation in the comments, as to why flame of the Omen and the flame of Deathblight, are the same but are not acquired nor used in the same way?
Just something I noticed, The Shield with the Painting (very Similiar to a Pavise(may or may not has been used by Romans), The Harpy (described by Roman and Byzantine), The whole Architecture of Leyndell whom was inspired by the Byzantine/Roman Style which where most likely the "white Winged Maidens" once lived but that is my personal Take... It Loops back in itself that is good storyteling GG Elden Crack
I think the rancor call ability hints at these bat women's connection to death. Maybe they were burial priestesses before the shattering? That would explaid why Marika cursed them, fusing them with a bat form. Once Marika's son was killed and destined death was stolen - Marika may have lashed out at everything associated with death and burial - Such as these maidens.
Something that always struck me about them was their tendency to drop high-level golden runes (only in the first encounter of each individual enemy, presumably because they would be a ridiculous farming spot if they kept dropping them). Apart from the celebrants in Windmill Village and certain wandering nobles (the ones holding treasure chests), all of the other enemies that drop golden runes are beasts (land octopi, rats, crows, spirit jellyfish, and the closely associated bats). I'm not sure what to make of it, but it seems important to me.
I will take this from fextralite from a anonymous,the guy says that marika,godfrey and rennala, radagon have parallels to Godwyn, miquella and Malenia,Radahn. Marika and Godfrey are in same pose,and a spear in their abdomen but the most interesting are the places they 'die/sleep', Marika and Miquella inside the tree(Miquella if mohg didnt intervene), Godfrey and Godwyn outside a tree(roots in godwyn's case),on the other hand Radagon make Rennala mad,and he went back to the erdtree(A.K.A Marika)because of greater will/golden order shenanigans,while Malenia also make Radahn mad,and went back to the haligtree(A.K.A Miquella),also since the sky is red in Malenia and Radahn bossfight,then the dlc sky maybe is yellow,which is proven in the teaser art.And if we follow the parallels,then maybe at one point Malenia and Radahn have a great relationship,while Miquella and Godwyn are more similar to a godfrey and Marika relationship ,if the theory of Miquella being a Machiavellian God that bewitched people maybe a one sided mohg level of affection to Godwyn.
When I first came across the harpies I thought my computer started playing a Nightwish song for some reason, finding out it was an in game enemy surprised me
You said the crown of these had no symbolysm you could find. For me it is curious that the crown is golden, with a center of black which looks like a hooded black figure with a sword infront. Maybe like Malenia... Godwin was killed by black blade assassins... in my mind they where cursed to roam the lands between because they where connected to the assassins, telling a story of a Golden One that had to be stopped because he was so angry in the eyes of this hooded figure that something had to be done... Now they are bound, doomed to nourish themselve from living creatures. Also all the connections to death and deathbedcompanions, the war that roamed when "someone" made it into the Lands Between with power not seen before in these Lands... probably stuff for the DLC. The most evidence is their locations and looks. They have like prisoners shackles on their legs and are found primarily in Castle build like a prison...
The song was so beautiful and all the bats were so peaceful before I showed up, I just ran right past them I felt bad and didn't wanna kill any of these enemies 😢
The bat crone at the back cliffs of fort fargoth whispers something rather than singing. There's only two other enemies I know of in the game that whisper messages. The pida like albinuric in Carian manor. And the wandering noble at Ahgeal ruins. Would be interesting if people ripped the sound file of that enemy. Sounds like she's grieving.
Theres another one. Digging Nobles, you can find one at cave of knowledge for example. They seem to be whispering about being robbed or perhaps just loosing someting and then forgetting what it was.
These creatures had me very confused on my first playthrough because the first couple I encountered didn't aggro until I attacked. I could walk right up, face to face, and all they did was stop singing. Thinking that's how they operated I tried just walking into fort faroth only to get wrecked. 😅
In one of the Tarnished archeologist video, they mention how Marika can be one of many maidens from times before the golden order. Then they replace iconografi in holy places. So maybe they were maidens from the time before the golden order and later cursed by Queen Marika
Thank yku! Bought the game a couple weeks ago and i found this dungeon area. I thought someone outside my room was singing. It have never occured to ms, that someone could be singing in a game like this, let onlome someTHING
I still remember wandering through Limgrave and hearing the song and being mesmerized. I stopped what I was doing and began searching for the source. Then I found it... and promptly died 😂
When I first heard them singing I thought I was tripping. I was looking around everywhere for who might be singing while they were just there under my nose I had no idea it was them singing.
So the entire story of Elden Ring almost certainly taking place inside of someones psyche, whether that be Marika, Radagon, or even a "real world" version of Godwynn or Michella. So im wondering how all these mythologies apply to whoever's gead we're inside of. I say this because the Jungian psychology inspirations are OBVIOUS throughout the entire game, proven by a number of factors (just research Jungian psychology and you'll find it to be true) but one of the biggest factors is that Marika and Radagon being the same person is a representation of the Anima/Animus within every human's psyche. That, and the symbol on the cover is literally sacred geometry tying into the ckncepts of wholeness, which is the entire focus of Jungian psychology
My theory on these abominations is that they were, in their prime, handmaidens/ladies-in-waiting for Marika. Women of similarly Numen descent who acted as her personal assistants and were afforded a great deal of respect and priviledge because of it. And they were in turn deeply devoted to their queen and their duty. However all of that changed when Godwyn was murdered on the Night of the Black Knives. Because the Black Knife assassins were Numen women said to also be close to Queen Marika, it is clear that there were traitors among this exclusive cadre. I think Marika, in her spiral of grief and rage, lashed out at her handmaidens and indiscriminately used her godly powers to twist and deform their bodies into monsters. She destroyed almost everything that made them beautiful, revered servants of a god-queen and left these nightmarish shells to roam the Lands Between forever. That is why they lament over their fate and attack all who come near them. They once had it all, and yet they were punished in the worst possible way for something they didn't even do. Marika stole their lives, dreams, beauty and sanity all out of blind fury while the true culprits still walk free.
So there was an age of plenty in the past, and Miquella is kind of the god of plenty? Man that makes me think that maybe Miquelle had a past life or previous self and maybe the DLC will be that.
I think George and Miyazaki clearly wrote Miquella as being the most ambitious being in The Lands Between, with the purpose of him being a direct contrast/mirror to the plentiful ages of past. I.e - miquella represents a possible future in which the Lands will come back to the glory days of the Erdtree, the game of abundance if you will. He is the vision. Almost like how Bran in ‘A Song of Ice and Fire’ is young and frail, but is building up to be the future of Westeros, in some way or another So I don’t think the DLC will explore Miquella’s past, but the term “Shadow of the Erdtree” has MANY meanings - and in this case, it means the DLC will revolve around the Successor of the Golden Age of the Erdtree of past, Miquella. He’ll make a sacrifice, of sorts, that will lead to the prime days of the Erdtree possibly. But that’s just my theory
I got this game 2 months ago and it scared tf out of me 😂 bsy that 1 crystal dragon I heard singing and saw the maiden with giant bats when I killed the bats and approached her my jaw dropped seeing wtf she actually was
Didn’t zulie the witch go over the singing and had to upload a video saying sorry cause the translations were just gibberish? I’m not positive nor want to do the research lol. Regardless cool lore dive as always :D
Really sad we didn’t get a bat or two as a summon ash. Not saying they would have been very useful, but I would have really liked to have em they have such a nice design
maybe they were angel beautiful women that had similar role like Fia ?Like maybe bearing the child of the dying ,i dont know . but with godwin fall they are now curse since dead has "die" but not really ....But with Fia he may rebirth again, hopefully witnessing that glory back ? ;)
They are singing about the Greater Will and Marika's Golden Lineage. Marika and Godfrey warred against anyone and anything not of the Erdtree. These bat ladies were cursed under the new rulers to not be mothers because of the rites of Erdtree burial and baptism.
I think it’s extremely clear what’s happening, they were not maidens, as “we” in context of the song refers to a betrothed couple, those who are to be married, these women are meant to bear children but after the shattering are probably barren. The issue with The land octopus connection is water does not equal death connection, not even remotely, there are 100% connections, but the fact that a creature came from water does not mean it’s connected to death. Dark souls 3 explores overpopulation due to hollowing, similarly I’d imagine birth becoming a taboo thing, when the cycle was given to the erdtree, and the really obvious connection I think was glazed over; the land octopus ovary states it is full of the blood of humans it has consumed to give birth, these bats being presumably barren, bite the player as a grab attack, which could suggest they’re trying to get your blood, to be able to breed again, they sing the song, only until the lamentation can end, with a potential solution, tarnished blood
great video! ..but you did not translate the entire song. The 2 lines, right before "O Golden One, at whom were you angry," : "we weep incessantly and no one comforts us" are some of the most poignant in the song.
These are probably my least favourite enemy in the game to be honest. ONLY because of that bloody fort in caelid. Fort Faroth maybe? The one where there's loads of them and my god did I die there over and over again on my first playthrough. There's also the optional dungeon which can take you up to Altus which they can be really annoying in. I do remember the first time I found one tho, hearing the singing and trying to find it, only to realise it's a disgusting monster was pretty cool.
I found that there is a strange statue representing what seems like a low details soldier with a child hiding behind them around the walls of the Haligtree. What do they represent?
I guess you could be right. Simple representation of the soldier's fate and devotion towards Miquella. Miquella is now one of my favorite characters in the game. Top 3 would probably be Morgott , Miquella and Godwyn. I love their lore@@mattb6616
I don't think Merika shattered the Elder Ring out of anger or malice, but simply to save her son Godwyn from his own curse and eternal suffering. She opened the path of new possibilities of life/death so that her son might be eventually released from his half death.
I think they are pretty much going to give us elden ring 2.....saying thankyou to the fan base for the meany years of support And elden rings massive success.... we can dream my fellow tarnished 😅😊
This is just my interpretation, but I think they might be the 'white winged maidens, who are Death's gentle envoys' in the Winged Scythe description. It always bothered me that no other item would mention these 'white winged maidens', and there weren't any creatures, bosses, or enemies who really had white wings that stood out. That's what I thought until I realized I was completely fixated on the classic white winged angel imagery. These bat ladies are definitely maidens, and they have white wings, and they were suspiciously mysterious despite being a pretty memorable enemy. The reason why I think they are lamenting is the fact that after Marika removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, natural death doesn't exist anymore. The natural cycle of life and death is disturbed, and perhaps in the eyes of a maiden who serve Death, death might simply be a different form of birth.
I hate that I missed that description. Absolutely belongs in this video
Either death could be a different form of birth, or the bat women were meant to be surrogates and adoptive mothers of souls, guiding them where they were meant to go in the afterlife. Their songs could be either lures or beacons
Agreed! The use of magic and Death Hexes suggest they align with pre-Golden Order civilizations, and if they once had a (Holy!) ability to reduce the effects of Flasks of Tears, that would've made them quite the natural enemies of Marika's reign.
If you take a close look at the ornate headdress you can tell their connected to another 2 type humanoid creature
Great comment, analysis and interpretation.
3:47 , 8:27
This is not "Crown" this is "Kokoshnik"
Kokoshniks were common in the Eastern, Northern and Central provinces of European Russia, as well as Siberia. Kokoshniks were decorated with various ornaments that served as amulets and symbolized fertility and marital fidelity.
In Slavic/Russian pagan myths/fairy tales there are also 3 Birds with a female face (“Sirin”, “Alkonost”, “Gamayun”)
This is awesome 🙏🏽 No way is this a coincidence
Interessant, Didn’t know that. 3 women/ female bird creatures are somehow the most popular subject in ancient mythology all over Europe
Yay, someone else also noticed. The kokoshnik is beautiful. 👑
Thanks for expanding my wiki tabs
To me, the strangest enemy of Elden Ring are those who say the DLC is coming out soon. I don't have enough vigor to withstand the attacks
The DLC is coming soon, it will most likely be in February or March.
It's coming tomorrow bro JUST HOLD ON
dlc in 10
Damn what a good DLC, can't believe they haven't made anything as big in the last 5 years.
Gotta level up that coping skill like the rest of us
One of my favorite moments in this game was seeing this as an in-world illustration of how a siren lures victims. Hear an intriguing song, get close, get attacked. Was brilliant
Yes i still vividly remember the first time they got me near tombsward
@@errorcode9542 that was my first death that I put the controller down after and went and regaled my partner with my tale of wonder and embarrassment!
Oooooooh that's that singing I hear? Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh fuck she banshee wailed into my ears 🤣
Imagine spending 20 years in academia studying music theory, symbolism, and historical performance practice to wander up on a mob singing a lacrimae. Thinking "oh awesome, this is such an amazing ga--" only to be launched off the ledge by another angry shouting bat to my doom below. That was my introduction to these bat singers. ☠️
That's awesome...
If I had to guess, these bats predate the golden order, as the ghost flame was part of the rites of the Death Birds. Marika's golden order excluded all other death rituals and began the hatred of mutants, so that's what fits best to me.
Curious how you feel about these enemies now that the DLC is out. Any new lore that links them to events in the Land of Shadow?
The magma sorceries talks about Rykard unearthing ancient hexes of gelmir that he retrofitted. He also shares the same jewelry as the pale bat. Considering where the pale bat resides and the amount of bats converging at Gelmir this leads me to believe that these bats are the original inhabitants of Gelmir. Back before even the age of Godfrey they were a clergy to the Deathrite birds before being assimilated into the Erdtree religion and eventually thrown away like all other misbegotten when godfrey fell. Now without any guidance they are devolving, the Bat people are reverting back into a more beastly form with only a few older generations still clinging to their history. Weak, Rykard has no problem pillaging and defiling their history. Keeping their jewelry for himself and retrofitting the ancient gelmir hexes for his benefit.
They are grim reminders that Rykard and The Erdtree are two sides of the same coin, willing to crush and destroy any culture or civilization to further their goal.
Whenever DLC package gets added to ""development"" depot of steam database, it usually takes a month for trailer drop. Happened with Dark souls 3 & now with Elden ring.
*DLC trailer should be out in the next 30 days*
I surmised the same. Makes sense for the two year anniversary
Inside knowledge points to an announcement next Tuesday (23rd). I think this is actually it.
@@kimlee6643 where did you get that insider info?
@@COHOFSohamSengupta Streamer on Twitch (not Lance). Did not sound like a troll at all. Didn't want to say anything else though. Next Tuesday, let's see what's what then.
@@kimlee6643 wait wait bro, you're kidding right? Who's this streamer? If its real its huge unless you're doing a little tomfoolery
I recall the first time i encountered these bat ladies. It was in Limegrave. I looked around for around 10 minutes until i realized that the song is coming from a mob! Afterwards, i spent another 30 minutes just sneaking around and resetting, listening to the song and studying them.
It honestly was a magical moment, especially when other people started translating their song. Maybe their purpose is to be enigmatic or raise curiosity in players and nothing lore related. Just something to keep us awake at night wondering what's their story.
It's a typical harpy or siren. It's supposed to lure humans to their doom.
Nothing will beat that feeling of listening this song for the first time and wondering where is it coming from and then finding out it's from a mother bat. I did the same when I first found them. Sneaking around and studying them and just purely listening in awe. I think this is the moment I was like... yeah, this game is pure perfection!
@@michailvolski5035 but those are very sad harpy ;(
My encounter was the same. The minute I heard the song I was captivated but then I wondered From Soft has done such a good job with this siren enemy. Anyone who is new to the game (and there would be lots of new players) would be forced to seek them out leading to the doom. I actually tried the lock on to see if these were actual enemies or NPCs.
I too spent longer than I care to admit just listening. Personally I couldn't believe what I was hearing. As a speaker of Latin I understood every word, but that didn't take anything away from the experience. If anything, I was even more impressed that the words had real meaning. Credit to Antonius Tertius for his great work in translating the song
I love the idea that the bat women are the figures depicted in the libation statues, disfigured into bats. That would make them living legends hidden in plain sight. I just dont understand how or why thst might have happened. The only similar "disfigurement" I can think of is Godwin, but why bats? That doesnt fit the aquatic theme. I feel like there is still a missong puzzle piece or two needed to make sense of this.
3:46 The kokoshnik of the rare singing bat lady is beautiful. 👑
It's a shame we can't get it as headgear.
I remember on my 1st playthrough just trotting around through southern limgrave. When I started hearing what I thought was Latin chanting, and hearing it in the middle of the woods was somewhat creepy. Reminded me of the singing maiden the tower of latria in demons souls. Took me a good minute to find it, too. It was on a ledge on the cliff face, so I thought I was going insane trying to find it. Definitely one of my favorite discoveries in the game.
I always had a headcannon that they are the mothers of the first Misbegotten. I think they could be the ones who made contact with the Crucible and were punished with chimaera children, and also turned to human-bat chimaera themselves.
Always love watching your Elden Ring videos while listening to Metroid music in the background. My two favorite things! I always find it hard to defeat them bc I always just wanna sit and listen. It's just so damn amazing.
I'm surprised no one fully went into depth about all the jellyfish spirits all around the map .
There are descriptions about no new births in elden ring, which would give more clues as to why all of the children in elden ring are jellyfish spirits rather than being undead or other creatures.
How does that give more clues? Why would children turn into jellys in the first place?
That's what I'm saying, elden ring is all around weird @@firmak2
Elden Ring and Kingdom Come Deliverance are my 2 favorite games of all time, and I'm just sitting here waiting on DLC for ER and a sequel for KCD 😭
The fact that they do glintstone and rancor call, maybe there is a connection between mages and the dead in the past?
Thanks for staying active in lore and news during another major hallowing man. Wouldn’t get through it without yah Zio 💪🔥
My first playthrough of Elden Ring, I fell victim to a harpy's song. I was entranced and helpless to her somber ballad and I foolishly walked around and searched for the source only to be surprised to find this ghastly bat woman and got the shit kicked outta me.
10 outta 10.
Finding out what makes the sound was such a memorable little moment. Thought I was looking for an NPC
Same here. I actually tried locking on and found out they were enemies.
Going with the mythological elements, my theory is that Marika cursed mothers in her despair at losing Godwyn. Similar to the tale of Arachne or basically any other human woman in Greek myth.
As for the rare variant of the bat/harpy, the silver sigil on the top of their crown resembles the Confessor starting class. Not sure what this could mean.
I did my best to sneak past them unnoticed because I didn't want the singing to stop. I would've liked for one to be slightly out of the way of the Tarnished's path so we could keep listening to it. Too much music in FS games is interrupted by battles or hard to hear due to fighting noises. Regardless, From's music team smash out another hauntingly beautiful piece.
Well this was perfect timing. Just sat down with my coffee and got the notification for a new video.
I'm no longer sure of my sources and much might be head cannon but I think they are careers for the people who became Dragons like Makar (this is what the game warns you that you might become if you use too many dragon sorceries) and Makar f. ex. works as a defense-against the spread of rot through the choke point that is the ruin strewn precipice (which justifies lore-wise why getting from Liurnia to the Altus Plateau) ie. because Fire beat Rot. at least in Makar's case they have a ancient Giant Land Octopus imprisoned on a ledge just popping out babies to feed Makar (which explains why you find a "Land" Octopus more than halfway up a mountain, And that Magma Wyrms eat Land Octopus babies explains why they are mortal enemies, as seen in the mountain tops of the giants where one can help you beat Magma Wyrm Theodorix)
also regarding the Giant Land Octopus on a ledge its on top of a body that has a sword so old the description only mentions its from a distant place a long ass time ago so it creates more questions than answers... This all makes me assume the bats and the Magma Wyrms are ancient human(oid)s that have been fighting off the rot ever since that became an issue, which would explain the depressed lyrics of the bats, it also probably means they blame this golden one for the shattering and or the rot and or deathblight... (there is also this finger reader that laments how horrible it is to see Godwyn in his current state and that he should have died a honorable death, she says this in a way that make it seem like his deathblight was his fault)
This is pretty disjointed I have a headache I just wanted to write down the gist of it all, tho I'm forgetting details.
TL:DR; The bat women are sad because they have to farm Octopy-babies for eternity to feed the Magma Wyrms to stave off the Rot and or deathblight while all they remember is how cool things used to be before Godwyn went all Squid-blight and that they blame the golden one who I think would be the cause of the shattering.
Love your content my guy. My main source of DLC updates.
Them singing explains why the music changes around them, i never paid enough attention to it, on account of trying to either sneak through or run past without getting wrecked even with 40+ vigor.
These videos make me slightly less hollow for a time
I think there were some assumptions made from the song that can't actually be taken. Primarily, just because they are singing the song it does not mean it is a first hand account. So those first two conclusions, that the sirens were present and that they were disfigured to stop their motherhood, cannot be drawn.
Songs can be ways of record keeping / keeping histories. Poetry was originally composed orally and sung for the sake of remembering cultural histories before the culture obtains writing. (Bats have wings and not hands, so it makes sense they sing to tell histories still).
The songs could just be accounts of Marika's rise to and the beginning of the golden order, withiut necessarily being about the sirens. Other creatures, like the Trolls, underwent significant transformation under the golden order, as the trolls are descendants of the giants. The lack of death could have something to do with their lack of being able to give birth. It's an intentionally open question.
Doubt youll see this zio. But I have a theory that suggests the age of plenty was a by product of marika's pregnancy with the omen twins. Because, mohg and morgott are omens they possess overflowing life which would naturally effect marika and by proxy the erdtree.
Now, about godwynes anger. It's entirely possible godwyne was angered by the information that Marika casted the twins into the sewers which tracks because we know he seemed to care about the other cursed twins Malenia and miquella. Mohg and morgott were born the way they are and maybe in godwynes eyes. They'd done nothing wrong.
huh thats crazy cuz i was playing elden yesterday and came across the bats singing and it creeped me out. I also was hoping you made a video about them cuz i was curious about their lore
Since you mentioned Wraithcallers and curses, would you make a video, or at least a plausible explanation in the comments, as to why flame of the Omen and the flame of Deathblight, are the same but are not acquired nor used in the same way?
I do love these breakdowns and i just have to thank you Zio!!🎉
Your keeping the hype alive for this heavily anticpated DLC drop ❤❤
Whoa! I never knew that the crowned version could use Rancor Call! Another excellent video, thanks for helping me learn something new.
Just something I noticed, The Shield with the Painting (very Similiar to a Pavise(may or may not has been used by Romans), The Harpy (described by Roman and Byzantine), The whole Architecture of Leyndell whom was inspired by the Byzantine/Roman Style which where most likely the "white Winged Maidens" once lived but that is my personal Take...
It Loops back in itself that is good storyteling GG Elden Crack
I think the rancor call ability hints at these bat women's connection to death. Maybe they were burial priestesses before the shattering? That would explaid why Marika cursed them, fusing them with a bat form. Once Marika's son was killed and destined death was stolen - Marika may have lashed out at everything associated with death and burial - Such as these maidens.
The best song/music in all of FromSoft games. I always pause and listen to it before moving on in the game.
Something that always struck me about them was their tendency to drop high-level golden runes (only in the first encounter of each individual enemy, presumably because they would be a ridiculous farming spot if they kept dropping them). Apart from the celebrants in Windmill Village and certain wandering nobles (the ones holding treasure chests), all of the other enemies that drop golden runes are beasts (land octopi, rats, crows, spirit jellyfish, and the closely associated bats). I'm not sure what to make of it, but it seems important to me.
Well AFAIK high-tier runes are related to enemies who eat men. A lot of men
Remember i seen an lore video awhile back about these characters , they're singing in latin pretty cool detail and eerie 🦇👻
I remember hearing this the first time going "Oh wow what is that? Let me go find that singing.... NO! RUN RUN!" - Early game for me so wasn't wise.
I will take this from fextralite from a anonymous,the guy says that marika,godfrey and rennala, radagon have parallels to Godwyn, miquella and Malenia,Radahn.
Marika and Godfrey are in same pose,and a spear in their abdomen but the most interesting are the places they 'die/sleep', Marika and Miquella inside the tree(Miquella if mohg didnt intervene), Godfrey and Godwyn outside a tree(roots in godwyn's case),on the other hand Radagon make Rennala mad,and he went back to the erdtree(A.K.A Marika)because of greater will/golden order shenanigans,while Malenia also make Radahn mad,and went back to the haligtree(A.K.A Miquella),also since the sky is red in Malenia and Radahn bossfight,then the dlc sky maybe is yellow,which is proven in the teaser art.And if we follow the parallels,then maybe at one point Malenia and Radahn have a great relationship,while Miquella and Godwyn are more similar to a godfrey and Marika relationship ,if the theory of Miquella being a Machiavellian God that bewitched people maybe a one sided mohg level of affection to Godwyn.
When I first came across the harpies I thought my computer started playing a Nightwish song for some reason, finding out it was an in game enemy surprised me
Isn't that headdress similar to the ones worn by the Finger Readers?
You said the crown of these had no symbolysm you could find. For me it is curious that the crown is golden, with a center of black which looks like a hooded black figure with a sword infront. Maybe like Malenia... Godwin was killed by black blade assassins... in my mind they where cursed to roam the lands between because they where connected to the assassins, telling a story of a Golden One that had to be stopped because he was so angry in the eyes of this hooded figure that something had to be done... Now they are bound, doomed to nourish themselve from living creatures. Also all the connections to death and deathbedcompanions, the war that roamed when "someone" made it into the Lands Between with power not seen before in these Lands... probably stuff for the DLC.
The most evidence is their locations and looks. They have like prisoners shackles on their legs and are found primarily in Castle build like a prison...
The song was so beautiful and all the bats were so peaceful before I showed up, I just ran right past them I felt bad and didn't wanna kill any of these enemies 😢
The bat crone at the back cliffs of fort fargoth whispers something rather than singing.
There's only two other enemies I know of in the game that whisper messages.
The pida like albinuric in Carian manor.
And the wandering noble at Ahgeal ruins.
Would be interesting if people ripped the sound file of that enemy. Sounds like she's grieving.
Theres another one. Digging Nobles, you can find one at cave of knowledge for example.
They seem to be whispering about being robbed or perhaps just loosing someting and then forgetting what it was.
These creatures had me very confused on my first playthrough because the first couple I encountered didn't aggro until I attacked. I could walk right up, face to face, and all they did was stop singing. Thinking that's how they operated I tried just walking into fort faroth only to get wrecked. 😅
In one of the Tarnished archeologist video, they mention how Marika can be one of many maidens from times before the golden order. Then they replace iconografi in holy places. So maybe they were maidens from the time before the golden order and later cursed by Queen Marika
Thank yku! Bought the game a couple weeks ago and i found this dungeon area. I thought someone outside my room was singing. It have never occured to ms, that someone could be singing in a game like this, let onlome someTHING
I still remember wandering through Limgrave and hearing the song and being mesmerized. I stopped what I was doing and began searching for the source. Then I found it... and promptly died 😂
Song, chimes, bells, etc have ties to communing with spirits or the dead in Elden Ring!
When I first heard them singing I thought I was tripping. I was looking around everywhere for who might be singing while they were just there under my nose I had no idea it was them singing.
I still remember the first time I heard them sing. It gave me the chills.
So the entire story of Elden Ring almost certainly taking place inside of someones psyche, whether that be Marika, Radagon, or even a "real world" version of Godwynn or Michella. So im wondering how all these mythologies apply to whoever's gead we're inside of.
I say this because the Jungian psychology inspirations are OBVIOUS throughout the entire game, proven by a number of factors (just research Jungian psychology and you'll find it to be true) but one of the biggest factors is that Marika and Radagon being the same person is a representation of the Anima/Animus within every human's psyche.
That, and the symbol on the cover is literally sacred geometry tying into the ckncepts of wholeness, which is the entire focus of Jungian psychology
Lol that footage of constantly whiffing against the bats was PAINFUL
My theory on these abominations is that they were, in their prime, handmaidens/ladies-in-waiting for Marika. Women of similarly Numen descent who acted as her personal assistants and were afforded a great deal of respect and priviledge because of it. And they were in turn deeply devoted to their queen and their duty.
However all of that changed when Godwyn was murdered on the Night of the Black Knives. Because the Black Knife assassins were Numen women said to also be close to Queen Marika, it is clear that there were traitors among this exclusive cadre.
I think Marika, in her spiral of grief and rage, lashed out at her handmaidens and indiscriminately used her godly powers to twist and deform their bodies into monsters. She destroyed almost everything that made them beautiful, revered servants of a god-queen and left these nightmarish shells to roam the Lands Between forever.
That is why they lament over their fate and attack all who come near them.
They once had it all, and yet they were punished in the worst possible way for something they didn't even do. Marika stole their lives, dreams, beauty and sanity all out of blind fury while the true culprits still walk free.
So there was an age of plenty in the past, and Miquella is kind of the god of plenty? Man that makes me think that maybe Miquelle had a past life or previous self and maybe the DLC will be that.
I think George and Miyazaki clearly wrote Miquella as being the most ambitious being in The Lands Between, with the purpose of him being a direct contrast/mirror to the plentiful ages of past.
I.e - miquella represents a possible future in which the Lands will come back to the glory days of the Erdtree, the game of abundance if you will. He is the vision. Almost like how Bran in ‘A Song of Ice and Fire’ is young and frail, but is building up to be the future of Westeros, in some way or another
So I don’t think the DLC will explore Miquella’s past, but the term “Shadow of the Erdtree” has MANY meanings - and in this case, it means the DLC will revolve around the Successor of the Golden Age of the Erdtree of past, Miquella. He’ll make a sacrifice, of sorts, that will lead to the prime days of the Erdtree possibly. But that’s just my theory
What program do you use to lower the pitch on your voice
I got this game 2 months ago and it scared tf out of me 😂 bsy that 1 crystal dragon I heard singing and saw the maiden with giant bats when I killed the bats and approached her my jaw dropped seeing wtf she actually was
I think the bats have a grab attack also where they grab your shoulders and peck at your head.
E: singing bats only
Love when they sing Halo theme
That headdress they wear would be dope for a faith build
Didn’t zulie the witch go over the singing and had to upload a video saying sorry cause the translations were just gibberish? I’m not positive nor want to do the research lol. Regardless cool lore dive as always :D
Hey Zio, do you stream on twitch or youtube?
I always thought they were altered or disfigured humanoids, as if they suffered Mahito's touch.
Really sad we didn’t get a bat or two as a summon ash. Not saying they would have been very useful, but I would have really liked to have em they have such a nice design
maybe they were angel beautiful women that had similar role like Fia ?Like maybe bearing the child of the dying ,i dont know . but with godwin fall they are now curse since dead has "die" but not really ....But with Fia he may rebirth again, hopefully witnessing that glory back ? ;)
Idk the ball snakes with eyes are pretty weird
They are singing about the Greater Will and Marika's Golden Lineage. Marika and Godfrey warred against anyone and anything not of the Erdtree. These bat ladies were cursed under the new rulers to not be mothers because of the rites of Erdtree burial and baptism.
WHATS THE NAME TO THE BACKGROUND SOMG HE USES?!!
I want that gold crown the second version of these harpys sport. It's neat.
7:01 this dude looks just like my first character
elden ring is unreal i love how it’s a titan of a game and i still feel like it’s underrated
anyone know what weapons he’s using throughout the video?
I literally was just thinking about this enemy after fighting it lol.
I NEED THIS UPDATE I’M GOING HOLLOW
Dont you dare go hollow!
I think it’s extremely clear what’s happening, they were not maidens, as “we” in context of the song refers to a betrothed couple, those who are to be married, these women are meant to bear children but after the shattering are probably barren. The issue with The land octopus connection is water does not equal death connection, not even remotely, there are 100% connections, but the fact that a creature came from water does not mean it’s connected to death. Dark souls 3 explores overpopulation due to hollowing, similarly I’d imagine birth becoming a taboo thing, when the cycle was given to the erdtree, and the really obvious connection I think was glazed over; the land octopus ovary states it is full of the blood of humans it has consumed to give birth, these bats being presumably barren, bite the player as a grab attack, which could suggest they’re trying to get your blood, to be able to breed again, they sing the song, only until the lamentation can end, with a potential solution, tarnished blood
great video! ..but you did not translate the entire song. The 2 lines, right before "O Golden One, at whom were you angry," : "we weep incessantly and no one comforts us" are some of the most poignant in the song.
All them maidens and our tarnished stays maidenless 😢
Another amazing video
These are probably my least favourite enemy in the game to be honest. ONLY because of that bloody fort in caelid. Fort Faroth maybe? The one where there's loads of them and my god did I die there over and over again on my first playthrough. There's also the optional dungeon which can take you up to Altus which they can be really annoying in. I do remember the first time I found one tho, hearing the singing and trying to find it, only to realise it's a disgusting monster was pretty cool.
Do you think that there will be armored core 6 dlc
You can give the epic voice guy a run for his money
These damn bats will F you up if your not paying attention
1:17 Because it usually has false lyric ?
My favorite area of the game is Ruin Strewn Precipice
love this idea
I found that there is a strange statue representing what seems like a low details soldier with a child hiding behind them around the walls of the Haligtree. What do they represent?
Protecting Miquella.
I guess you could be right. Simple representation of the soldier's fate and devotion towards Miquella. Miquella is now one of my favorite characters in the game.
Top 3 would probably be Morgott , Miquella and Godwyn. I love their lore@@mattb6616
I don't think Merika shattered the Elder Ring out of anger or malice, but simply to save her son Godwyn from his own curse and eternal suffering. She opened the path of new possibilities of life/death so that her son might be eventually released from his half death.
I have to say I don't see much lore on the starcallers. I need someone to point me in a good direction to their loooore
Wait a minute... "mothers"? Maybe there is a link with the erdtree births.
The harpies headpieces are similar to Abductor's Virgins'.
A path to follow: the headwear they have is an old traditional headwear of noblewomen/female royalty of Russia.
I think they are pretty much going to give us elden ring 2.....saying thankyou to the fan base for the meany years of support And elden rings massive success.... we can dream my fellow tarnished 😅😊
This was exactly how I thought
Im physically begging youtubers to stop saying Rodreeka. Row-dare-ick-uh.
Idk they just look like normal bats to me.
They were singing asking why marika shattered the the elden ring.
Off hand seeing the title, The Vulgar Militia men come to mind first
I just want the crown 👑