Baltimore Update w/William Doyle Dredging Contractors of America & Former Director Port of Baltimore
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
- Baltimore Update | Next Steps in Salvage & Clearing | General Average & Limited Liability | Worldwide Fuel Contamination | Impact on Baltimore Economy
What's Going on With Shipping?
April 19, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - talks with William Doyle, CEO and Executive Director of Contract Dredgers of America and former Director of Port of Baltimore and Federal Maritime Commissioner.
00:00 Baltimore Update & Next Steps
06:58 Limited Liability & General Average
12:36 Worldwide Fuel Contamination
18:45 Impact on Baltimore Economy
#baltimore #baltimorebridge #dali
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As a layperson with no maritime experience, I can’t tell you how informative this conversation is. You are both excellent at educating without patronizing or downplaying the issues. Thank you!
Spot on 👍
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@@orwellboy1958I think you just did tell them, and quite effectively.
Ditto 👍
That proper New England accent inspires pure confidence when it comes to talking about boats. 🙂
I agree. 🙌
A Southern accent will often cause the opposite affect, on every topic, not just boats.
Nein😢
Judgement based on an accent? Awesome.
Ha ha, you are so superior like Katherine Maher. @@robinblackmoor8732
Before any of this happened and before discovering this channel, I was pretty clueless about the maritime community.
I’m still pretty clueless about the maritime community!
But, what I have learned is how essential that entire unsung segment of the population is to the entire country, and I’ve gained a real level of respect and admiration for everyone from container ship captains to tugboat operators.
Thanks, Sal.
Did you think the ships were doing it just for a laugh?
I only starting watching this channel after the Houthis were attacking cargo ships off the coast of Yemen.
Sal sheds light on what is really an unseen but critical industry, which is ports and shipping. He also does it with considerable insight and presentation skills. This is a real public service amidst innumerable blogs, podcasts, social media that typically do nothing to further our useful understanding of real life and problems.
i have seen other yourube videos but i just click on Sal for the info
Why didn't Doyle insist on building fenders when he was boss there at the Port of Baltimore?
@@cattnipp I am more concerned with why the shipping industry has limited liability.
@@erniew5805 Who cares about liability when there's not an accident? This was a preventable tragedy.
If you ask the army , fbi or cia , they'll tell you they have 10 similar scenarios for this type of accident.
Thanks Sal for the fantastic coverage of the bridge situation in Baltimore. Having Bill on for additional perspective is fantastic!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for your continued reporting on the Francis Scott Key bridge collapse… you are providing a solid public device providing ongoing unbiased factual information about the salvage operation.
It is refreshing to hear these two guys talking about things they know about and can speak in proper terms about details concerning the total scope of the bridge collapse.
Absolutely agree: No ideology, only pros talking shop. Good stuff.
As a merchant mariner it's a lot going on out here in the waters pray for us but so glad I'm home 😂
They are just verbalizing what they have heard, not what they know in this case. So what do they really know about the fuel on the Dali? Nothing. What do they know about the state of the crew? Nothing. What do they know about the state of the machinery, nothing. Well maybe this, maybe that. How about they report on the factual releases and don’t inject unknowns about the situation.
It was great to hear that the state is supporting the workers. It looks like great progress to me. Happy to see they are moving forward as quickly as can be done safely.
I find myself checking Sals channel every day now and I had never know it existed before the Dali incident. I will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
General average of liability for maritime is interesting. Thank you for the interview.
This is still shocking to me. Seeing all those cranes and knowing how complicated this is…
I never thought I would be interested in a puzzle like this, but it’s personal. And thx for informing us about the remaining victims. Simply tragic.
Love from Dundalk(:
Thank you Sal for coordinating having your guest Bill Doyle on this episode! Great content Professor!🇺🇸
I've been devouring knowledge of all types for 60's plus years ... this Maritime blindspot of mine is being filled by this strong content.
It's much appreciated.
Only 30yrs here but amen brother, never stop learning ✊
80 years here, still learning daily.
@@SteamCrane same here, will be 80 in February. 😎
Hands down the best information on what's happening in Baltimore. Thanks for making the effort
Thank you for always mentioning local employment and how it affects them and the economy of major areas
Well done Sal. As a former Master and Operations Superintendent I’d like to thank you and your guest for this informative video. The public should be seeing this not the gibberish put out by the MSM.
Perfect timing!
Thank you and thank Mr. Doyle, for this fascinating update on the tragedy in the Port of Baltimore. It is so much more credible to get news from knowledgeable people in the trades themselves than fake news, talking heads.
*It does sound like a super human effort is being put forth. It reminds me of the work coordination that went on here in California, after the Sylmar earthquake of 1971.
I had been thinking of the uninvolved that predicted long timelines for the earthquake repairs, and seeing the work get done efficiently ahead of expectations.
Thank you Sal! Appreciate your knowledge and research.
Sal, please pass along the audience's thanks (or at least this member of the audience's thanks) for some of the people involved taking the time to come on and update about this. I've obviously been following some of the press conference and footage of sections being removed, but it's great to get to see the whole picture in a bit more perspective.
I always thought that fuel filters were a redundant redundancy in the marine world. Also, every large ship today using bunker or diesel should have a fuel polishing setup on board treating the fuel before it's delivered to the engine. It would be an added cost, but really just a drop in the bucket when you look at the total package.
*Getting CLOSE to the "50,000,000 Views" mark, Big Sal!!! Keep up the great work. Hitting the **FIFTY MILLION** mark on UA-cam is definitely a GREAT milestone to achieve... It's also even better that it's on a channel that is a "Informational" type channel, like yours... Usually the big views come in on channels that focus on, extremely controversial, political type content &/or negative & fear mongering type content, especially nowadays on UA-cam...*
*So it's a breath of FRESH AIR too see a channel like Sal's becoming so popular & getting the big views in the MILLIONS on his recent videos...*
*I am from Baltimore Maryland, born & raised, 29 years now... I still cannot wrap my head around seeing the Key Bridge being GONE.... It still feels so unreal to me.... Even seeing & hearing Sal, talk about Baltimore and the Baltimore ports & other topics that involve the Key Bridge being GONE and how it effects the shipping industry around the ENTIRE PLANET & MOST IMPORTANTLY how it effects Baltimore, the City I love & was raised in, still doesn't feel real.... I have drove over that beautiful Key Bridge, COUNTLESS TIMES, sometimes 4-5 crossings a day when I was working for Amazon's logistics hub on the Anne Arundle County side of the Key Bridge... My house is about 1 "Naticual" mile away from the Key Bridge & I was able to go out to a point in my neighborhood & see the Key Bridge laying in the water, only 2 hours after the collapse.*
Thanks Sal and Bill, I appreciate your expertise and great info! 🎉
As a Retired US Navy Vet, I really enjoy your in-sight and your guests are amazing. If I was 20-30 years younger, I'd volunteer my services. Thank You.
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Thank you Dr. Mercogliano.
It's great to have your channel, connections, and expertise to explain what's happening in Baltimore and in shipping. I'm getting a bit tired of people who do not understand these things acting like they're experts.
As a retired shipping operator, wish to thank you for such amazing conversation. God Bless you all.
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Maryland resident here. Personally interested.
DuringCOVID I became intrigued with global shipping and have been following your very interesting episodes since.
I see my friends and husband ‘s eyes glaze over when I want to share my excitement about this important topic. And now your great episodes about the Dali and the Port of Baltimore.
As an 87 year old farm wife in landlocked Arkansas they think I’ve “lost it.” Oh well, please keep it all coming.
BTW your shirts are terrific!
the Mackinac bridge over the straights of Mackinac has zero pier protection and huge freighters are always passing through those waters. the new gordie howe bridge luckily has its entire span over the Detroit river so , there is no way for any pier strike to happen. unless its by a car lol. god bless the people of Baltimore. Michigan is with you.
The coordination must be exhausting! The movement and purpose of all of the watercraft, cranes, and people must be coordinated for their safety.
On Minorcan Mullet's channel, he lets you hear that radio coordination happening. Bunch of professionals working together.
Always enjoyable listening to you and William Doyle talk about what’s happening with the operations. When you spend time in the general media posts it seems like over half of the comments are talking about conspiracies, DEI, etc. Keep up with the good reporting.
As a local, I'm so thankful for the source of information, and not having to sit and wonder if things will ever get better. Thank you, and thank you to all the men and women who are getting this thing put right. Sincerely.
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Thanks Sal!
Great episode as always. Took 1+ year of engineering in college and this I understand.
Peace from the land of 🍁 (CA)
Sal doing God’s work on a Friday. Keep shipping videos (pun 😅) and I’ll keep watching.
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Me too
Excellent video! Best and most reliable source of info about incident. Very professional.
600 ships disabled due to contaminated fuel in 2022 ?
That is mind boggling.
I have seen corrupt entities who went to jail for deliberately setting up plant to blend counterfeit diesel (15 - 20 years ago) and selling it in bulk to Gas stations.
They were blending 30 - 50 % diesel with kerosene or heating oil and truck engines were blowing up due to it.
There is alot of awareness about fuel quality for on-road equipment so you can imagine how much worse it must be for shipping ?
Every ratbag gangster must have been doing this thinking there is less regulation and more temptation for ship owners to cut costs and buy "cheap fuel" , especially when a ship can use tonnes of fuel , not gallons.
Nice video guys !
heating oil and diesel are the same thing. minus the road tax.
kerosene is much higher grade than diesel = more expensive.we run it in cold weather to prevent gelling jets use jet A which is kerosene due to cold weather aloft
@@erniew5805 yeah the original comment makes no sense.
@@DieselRamcharger In Australia Kerosene had no fuel tax and 15 - 20 years ago was a lot cheaper than diesel , The guy went to jail for evading the fuel tax , not for blowing up truck engines , it was on TV news here for a while.
The guy also paid millions in fines and lost his 24 bedroom mansion he built with the $$$
@@DieselRamcharger i just tried to google up a link for the guy mentioned and found you also had one in N.J. google up Aaron Misulovin for that story , $ 138 million in evaded fuel tax
The command is doing a poor job of information distribution. They should have a morning briefing as to what was accomplished overnight and what they hope to work on that day. Then, an evening briefing on what was accomplished and planned night work. Ten minutes per would do it!
I agree. There should at least a press conference or news release.
Honest question here: What is affected by the information coming from command? Commerce? Markets?
@@TheSuzberry Updates will allow shippers and carriers to allow time to schedule ships into and out of Baltimore.
I get the impression the unified command doesn't have much experience.
@@JoeLinux2000 Kind of hard to gain disaster management experience, thankfully!
Thanks to Bill great interview with him the information is very much appreciated
Glad you enjoyed it
I live in a spa town called Bath in the UK. i enjoy your podcasts as I find it very educational even though I have no connection with the naval or merchant fleet
I have visited your lovely city on business trips to the UK. It is a small world.
any local gas station has unwanted debris in the bottom of the tanks, which is why you do not want to fill up when a delivery truck is filling the tanks and stirring up the impurities
Thumbs up thank you for the full screen presentation much easier to see than some of your videos
You're very welcome!
Being in the fuel ⛽️ industry there has been a problem with diesel clogging filters for several years. You can’t see the contaminants but they quickly clog filter medias.
Fuel contamination is a big issue in OTR Trucking!
When the shift from 2500PPM to 1500PPM of Sulfur ratio:
1) Pump & Injectors Seals for "old" Fuel to "new" fuel, began to shrink and leak!😮
2) Loss of power via Detonation before combustion😮
3) After ULSD 500PPM, Caterpillar stopped making OTR Engines.😮
Plus the long term / historical accumulation of Algae that breaks Injector Tips.😮
That one graphic showing the schedule is worth building the Internet.
Glad to see they aren't risking the salvage crew on section 4. Cutting those sections still under tension with shaped charges is what I assumed they would do, should be quite the show.
I was watching the Streamtime Live channel in time to see them offloading what looks like a fuel tank on a skid that seemed to be present in the first NTSB B-roll video. Definitely making great progress.
I live in Dundalk. I traveled over this bridge for 9 years for work. I've never been scared of bridges but now I am. I watch your videos to try to understand the situation better to assuage my fears. Thank you for your work.
The fact that you drive on public roads puts at risk that is multiple orders of magnitude greater than the risk of a bridge failing while you are crossing.
@@Agnemons yes I am aware of that.
Great episode Sal!!!
Contamination is a real thing. We take a lot of things for granted but in this case contamination is very real threat. There are fuel filters, pre fuel filters, water separators for these engines before it enters the fuel transfer pump which has ultra tight tolerances.
With these extreme high pressure fuel systems having any debris of any kind can and will shut you down especially diesel engines or bunker oil engines.
600 ships put out of service is definitely no joking matter.
Having an uncle in the trucking business and me loving it also from being 7 years old. I learned about contamination from him. Any time fuel is being transferred younrun a high chance of having some form of contamination. In these large vessels and the large amounts that are being pumped, ther is a high probability of getting “dirt” into the fuel system. That is why there are so many filters on the engine itself because coming from the refinery it is not always 100% so the filters are there to catch any foreign matter that might have been collected along the way.
Also the hoses can pick up dirt or foreign debris from dragging on the ground especially if the area where they stow it isn’t clean or the yard didn’t put the cap on the end of the hose to keep dirt from getting in.
Transferring fuel in the heavy rain you can pick up bits moisture which will shut down almost immediately.
Cleanliness is not only godliness but it is very important to your engines fuel system.
That is why your local mechanic always tells you to keep your vehicles air filter, fuel filter and oil filter on a regular scheduled intervals and don’t cheap out on parts or you too will be on the side of the road at 2 am in a rainstorm .
Love your videos Sal.
You keep us informed with actual and factual news.
Much respect bruddah!
Thank you for keeping the progress understandable.
I really want to know about the engineering behind the salvaging. It's one thing to design a bridge, but another to take one apart, with unknown stresses. We didn't learn that stuff in college.
The problem with tightening regulations: of course all ships and shippers would benefit, but much of international shipping is regulated by some nations that would prefer to offer looser regulations, to encourage ships to register there.
Aviation fuel is filtered with separate distinct filters every time the product changes from one container to another. Example: delivery truck or pipeline to airport storage the fuel gets filtered. Airport storage tank to aircraft fueling truck, the fuel gets filtered. Aircraft fueling truck to fuel going to aircraft, the fuel gets filtered.
After watching TimBatSea Channel where he delivers bunker fuel to container ships, etc. I always wonder about the quality of this fuel. I never see any evidence of filtering.
If you watch Blancolirio, you know that aviation fuel can be problematic too, especially for smaller airfields.
Great coverage of the horrible event. I hope that additional strong bunkers will be put in place around critical pillars of the new bridge. So that such a thing doesn't occure again. Or at least lessens the odds of it.
Protection cells and dolphins are critical components to the structural integrity and safety of bridges that cross navigable waterways. They are often robust sheet pile structures, reinforced with steel and concrete.
IMHO, this is the kind of reporting that NPR or PBS might have done 25 years ago. Smart, let the experts answer the question, longer than the 10 seconds of (blame) TV news but short enough that the people with ADD don't get bored.
With respect to not paying attention to fueling up my gas or diesel. Yea it is a problem. In Minnesota I don't use at least three stations (diesel) and one local chain (gas) because the fuel is "less than ideal" for my vehicles. Don't know what it is and don't care because I had problems
Thank you , thank you, thank you for a really great program today. So many points were were discussed and aided in understanding of the economic aspects. I was amazed about the State of Baltimore, and the city with dealing with the many people, truckers, longshoremen, and others by taking care of their economic needs. Again, a really great presentation once again Sal.
This is a great channel to get an overview of the situation and on the side learn so much about the maritime industry.
Keep up your good work with this channel, Sal!
Thanks!
Thanks Bill and Sal. That was a great discussion and update. It's so uplifting to see all of these various entities pulling together with a common goal and a goal that is being transparently detailed to fully include and inform the general public. It's a real tribute to the initiative and competence of all those participating and sets the gold standard of how all civic and governing agencies in cooperation with private sector actors should be interacting to achieve and maintain the common day to day life sustaining needs of the nation.
30 year’s ago always separated batches of bunkers, and did not use new fuel until bunker analysis was received and checked by head office.
Sal, with the problems related to contaminated fuel, how did it affect the US Navy during WWII? Do you address this in your book Six Oilers? I'm anxiously awaiting your books release, hopefully on Kindle, too.
When we burned Bunker C, which is a real heavy oil, it was not much of a problem. As fuels became lighter and cleaner, the problem has materialized.
@@wgowshippingDuring WW2 Bunker oil was literally burned to make steam. It is not used for actual engines is it? So if you are just burning it, clean does not matter much right?
@@robinblackmoor8732 Like coal - thick oil burned for fire to make steam is a far cry from timed injection into a modern two-stroke marine diesel engine.
Thumbs up.
@@uploadJ Exactly. Bunker oil is like tar when it is cold. The place I worked at, they needed heaters and steam powered pumps to move the stuff to the boiler. It is nasty stuff. It sticks to you too. That is why WW2 sailers would get burned so bad when ships were torpedoed and caught fire.
Bunker C is the stuff too thick to be used as road tar.
Diesel fuel was used by military ships during WW2 however and but the number of engines prevented a single failure from taking a ship out of service. Diesel submarines typically have four engines (identical to those used on locomotives) for example.
Excellent information - the best site for educating the public about the maritime industry and this accident in particular. Thank you so much.
Thank you ( SAL) 😊 for updates 😊
Great job. The amount of cranes reminds me of when at Con-Expo Con-Ag when building the huge new addition to downtown Las Vegas strip. I was amazed at all the cranes on that big project. 😊
This picture you show looks very similar
Can you get more information on the pilots getting trained. Maybe an interview with one ?
The pilot association is not talking, officially or unofficially.
@@wgowshipping -- Have 'they' released the name of the Pilot?
This is the best place to get information on the bridge removal and the details that are involved in the broader issues that are affected or possibly had a role in the bridge being destroyed.
Excellent episode, Sal! Chocked-full of useful information to grasp the scope of all logistic operations on this project!
So important - thank you 🙏 It’s like a never ending course in the maritime industry - wonderful!
Exactly. Great insight from both of you on the local, national and global points. Many thanks.
Thank you for all your hard work and sharing with us your knowledge of the shipping industry, simply fascinating!
Outstanding Presentation. Graphics and Photos are spot on. Thank you Gentleman.
Thank you for keeping us in the loop of what going on.
I have enjoyed your channel so much the past year or so it so interesting.
I am learning SO much about maritime shipping from this channel - I've always been a fan of shipping and seagoing crews, being former career navy, so following this disaster is important. Thank you, Dr. Sal and Mr. Doyle!!
This was incredibly informative, thanks to you both!
Not really related to the topic, but that accent makes me nostalgic for my visits with friends from MA. Cheers to you, William.
I'm from the midwest, and think New England is such a comfortable accent.
thanks for this . sorting out the movement of wreckage and getting it done is a daunting task. good people doing good work.
Awesome. Still the best coverage of this event.
Thank you Sal! Thank you Bill! We truly appreciate you both for keeping us updated on the Baltimore bridge 👍
Thank you for the update and explaining the process and actors involved.
Sal, thank you once again for not only your insight, but the insight and knowledge of the guests you have on the channel, the way in which everyone delivers their information is in no nonsense layman terms, and readily understandable by anyone with a pulse.
There are very very few channels that I believe follow this principle on YT, and since the EG did it's whole drifting (as in the motorsport way) and sideways thing up the Suez, I've been an avid follower of yourself and the channel, as well as the many that you have suggested.
Appreciate your time and effort devoted to giving us...the greater public....the no BS truth....cheers from Sydney Aus!!!!
never thought i would be interested in shipping......your students & university are lucky to have you sal!
Thank you Sal and Bill for this very informative video!
Good conversation & interview. Timely update. I learned a lot. Mahalo! 🤙🏼
Sal, you've opened this Average Consumer's eyes to some of the complexity and magnitude of an aspect of commerce that I previously took for granted, but now find fascinating. Soon after the Key bridge collapse I came here on the recommendation of Juan Brown at his blancolirio channel to find out about the disaster, but I''m learning so much more than that. You and your guests' expertise and presentation skills have given me an appreciation for the vast infrastructure of the shipping industry, and the hard work and dedication of the men and women mariners, and those involved in what must be many supporting enterprises, most of whom go unnoticed by the general public. Thank You!!
In aviation industry, fuel is filtered and/or polished between 4 to 6 time between the refinery and the aircraft. The aircraft will have additional filters between the fiel tank and engine.
What is the marine practice for bunker fuels? Based on the costs of this incident, onboard filtration improvement might be worth the cost and inconvenience. Fuel filters are an expense and can be messy to maintain.
Depending on where in the world you are getting your ship fuel, there are 'bad operators' that 'add stuff' to increase the profit on the sales. Some group should be in charge of checking each and every maritime fueling depot fuel for contaminants AND reporting the findings. The shipping companies could bypass the fueling depots that fail the contaminant tests.
Thanks Bill for your time and sharing your insights!
For someone from New Mexico, this whole event is so fascinating. Thank you for explaining all the water issues.
Excellent !!! Thank you for posting this interesting informative update video
Outstanding coverage, Sal! This is a great explanation of a very complex removal.
Hello, Just like to say thank you for your coverage. One thing I am seeing is the speed that companies have come together and seem to be working together. Thank you.
Thanks Hutch. Love your work.
I agree with the opening complements of your guest said about you. I appreciate how you update us lay people!
Came across this channel on the day of the Dali accident. Ever since then, I have been very interested in maritime information. Who knew how interesting this could be. I love it
Thanks for keeping us informed.
Thank you . Mr Doyle & Sal. Keep up the great reporting
Excellent update. Thank you so much for sharing your professional knowledge and wisdom.
Thanks for the update there. Really informative.
Another exceptional session on maritime terminology and maritime law. Thank you.
I'm just astounded...I have a shipping container that I'm using to transport my cogs from Port A to Port B. I don't get why it's MY fault...why I have to pay for this? I'm a consumer of the service of the transportation...sounds like this needs to be remedied. I'm still waiting to hear the NTSB's report on the powerplant failure, and the potential criminal case. Obviously, there is something "amiss". Either the owner of the ship didn't do due diligence, maybe the captain was negligent...lot's to watch! Thanks for all of this!
I find these conversations fascinating absolutely fascinating. Thanks for all the information 👍👍👍
Thanks fir the work and updates, Sal.
Sal, this is amazing journalism. Thank you!
Great discussion. Thanks for the upload.