Thanks for the react man. If I didn't communicate it clearly enough in my video: WE WELCOME EVERYONE TO PATH OF EXILE. Come play, we'll do our best to help and become best friends with you. Great to see you giving the game a try, I hope you bring it to a bunch of new people, Rob! My title was good, wasn't it? ;)
Just don't do it on Reddit because I downvoted to hell for asking a simple question about itemization. I asked over there if someone can explain how an Unique found at low level can be used at end game? Systems like that are not beginner friendly and I have 3200 hours in PoE and without a guide I don't know how something with lower level stats can be useful in endgame builds.
It's an extremely small percentage of players that hate on the other game. Most intelligent people don't get involved in that crap. There is no room for such useless negativity. Most just want both to succeed or they simply don't care about the other.
I find that there is so many comments saying d4 bad but most of the people I encounter in game all love the game and have hundreds of hours. Vocal minority is destroying an other wise good game and honestly I really hope those that give unfettered hate will leave the community for those with genuine criticism or those who enjoy it.
The only people who could make this statement are David Brevick and Max Schaefer. Rod had nothing to do with the creation of anything about the Diablo universe or the launch of a new genre. GGG has taken the concept and created an incredible game. I hope POE 2 has great success.
exactly! back in the d1 and d2 days, when you call a game „diablo-like“ or „diablo-clone“ it was an honor, but nowadays „diablo-like“ will be compared to trash games d3 and d4 is a much more negative reputation, no one wants to have xD
D2 inspired POE and that was the OG Blizzard North devs who inspired them NOT the D3, D4 and certainly NOT Diablo Immortal devs/games. Rod isnt even part of Diablo 2 and its initial development and was only part of shtty downhill mess of D3 and D4. I bet he cant even explain how D4 mechanics and back systems works unlike GGG game directory Jonathan and Chris who really knows their game
@@paimog9233 shit talking them doesn’t help the slightest either… they are also people, not some robot. Blizzards scale is also much bigger than GGG. Grinding Gears works on one game and one game only, that’s POE. When the companies whole purpose is on 1 game then it’s pretty easy to put all the resource into it. Can critic a game harshly but shit talking devs and assuming they don’t care is very ignorant and pretty disrespectful.
This will forever remain burned in my brain "Leaving dungeon's cast time increased from 3 seconds to 5 seconds". This insignificant line should tell you everything about diablo 4, everything.
😂😂 This is more than enough to tell me I don't need to come back to D4. That made me laugh so much but also kinda stunned me with how wild that is for them to CHOOSE to make shit take longer
The thing is.. If by "Diablo-like" they mean Diablo 4, then PoE is not Diablo-like.. But if by "Diablo-like" they mean Diablo 2, then Diablo 4 is not, infact, Diablo-like..
Competition exists between 2 games that are trading blows. Poe 2 is just on another league alone does not need competition to succeed because there is vision compared to Diablo 4. Diablo needs competition because there is no vision.
Very strange Rod doesn't realize every arpg was "diablo like" until Blizzard damaged it with D3. Hell, back in early 2000 there was not even an arpg genre, it was only diablo like games.
@@C9Kreal No Diablo-like references Diablo 1 and the formula originating from this game, the fact you dont like D3 and D4 doesn't change that. POE did not create the formula, it did innovate and evolv it though. Souls-like references Demon Souls, and should'nt be called Elden-Like now just because Elden ring is a better game.
I don't hateD4. I'm just sad and disappointed of all the missed opportunities. They should have taken many great things, which were there in D2 and D3 but they didn't. I am just a noob when it comes to PoE as I'v enever even finished the campaign. At the same time I am so hyped for PoE 2 and have already paid for early access. It will definitely take me a very long time to learn everything but I'm eagerly looking forward to it. Shame on Blizzard and well done GGG for pouring your heart and soul into PoE 2.
Those ppl who are new to D4 and not the hardcore or core ARPG genre - if they are the targeted players, the game itself will die and wont be worth to developing it - unless you have a Gread legacy and name and you put lots of cool skins for money - well those ppl will buy and make the Q1 and Q2 market good look - for investors - yet the game still will suck - Like D4.
@@richardholko9846 If they copy pasted the whole poe1 game into poe2 with the new engine, it would already be a better game than d4. They could literally do nothing and it would already be better right out the gate. For poe2 to fail, they'd have to do the dumb d3 and d4 thing where they ignore what worked in the previous iteration and do the new game from total scratch. So like in d2, they have all these different items and gear. Well in d3 that's all gone. In d3, everyone hated bounties and loved GRs. So in d4, they forced everyone to basically walk around doing chores, just like bounties. Nightmare dungeons are just bounties in a dungeon. Helltides at launch was walking around for 5 minutes looking for mobs, so just like bounties. Gamers don't care about fiscal quarters or investors. They're interested in quantity and quality of content. Obviously more people will buy into a AAA studio from pure brand loyalty or just buying into trendy things with no brain. If poe1 didn't die after over a decade, poe2 wouldn't die. Their monetization model is the same. Poe2 just has to not be worse than poe1 and they will be successful. Unlike d3 d4, it requires you to have a working brain, so maybe you're better off with d4.
@@doryfishie2 Aye they kinda did and the most controversial things retalents and other things which hardened the gameplay got more easier thats all - you are right, poe1 still better than D4 and poe2 will be king of the ARPGs if they dont mess this up.
GGG themselves have stated MULTIPLE times on air that they were inspired by Diablo games - it's NO SECRET. The never hid this fact. What they didn't say was that they were INSPIRED by D2. Not D3/4 out of respect and diplomacy. Look @ D4 now. It's a FUCKING MESS. Given one class 10000000x the power to "sell' an expansion. Shameless and clueless that's why I had to uninstall it. I very much regret my purchase of the expansion.
Personally, I'm tired of all the grinding in D4, I realize that every ARPG will require a lot of grinding. But what I hate is the gambling style of upgrading your gear. I'm sick of grinding of obdecite only to fail in upgrading my gear. All that time with nothing to show for. From tempering, to masterworking, the odds of getting what you want is slim at best without hours and hours of grinding. I would rather work (grind) for something tangible, grind for something that i know will come to fruition, as long as I grind the necessary materials to make the gear i need, I don't want to grind for hours and because of bad RNG nothing to show for. And every season it takes more time, and less chances to get what you want, to say it simply, it's so hard to get what you want, and every season it becomes even harder.
The ironic thing is none of this needed to happen. I personally think the original itemization system would have been fine if they had just given us a loot filter, then we could have just been excited when a good item dropped which was exactly what they wanted in the first place. Their refusal has led to this gacha-game of tempering and masterworking that turns the game into a crafting simulator
Easy fix for your problem - trading! PoE has trading! Just farm some currency and buy the thing instead of upgrading it yourself. In that sense, any content you do ANYWHERE is working towards that next upgrade you're excited about, as long as its earning currency.
It's not only blue and yellow items that are useless in D4, around 75% of uniques are useless and people only use maybe half of the Mythic items? Not sure what a good guess on aspects would be but I would guess at least 50% are useless. As long as D4 has all these ridiculous, out of control multipliers everywhere and it stays on this constant 3 month cycle of huge buff/nerf swings with the devs choosing what people will play nothing will change.
The original founding members of grinding gear games all met playing diablo 2. They love diablo as much as all of us. Excited for POE2, hope you enjoy learning the game, it's seemingly a lot more approachable than POE1.
Gamer dad here with 3 wives and 10 kids, I’m enticed to play POE but there is no way I’d engage in seasonal play. Ain’t no time for that and that’s fine. Slow progress through non-season would be the way to go for me.
Maybe these games just aren't for you? The games thrive on seasonal play if you don't have the time I totally get that but it's kinda why the games remain relevant at the same time
@ yup agreed, hence why I stopped playing Diablo 4. I play WoW because the seasons are way longer and much more manageable for solo players with limited time as the pressure of chugging through a POE seasoning 3-4 months for rewards is unnecessary stress. To be fair it’s obviously a game knowledge issue. I’m sure that once I’ve gone through the systems of POE at my own pace once then I could get through seasonal content faster to make seasons worth it but time will tell.z
You 100% can play non season , Poe2 will have so much content and after a season is done if the season mechanic is received well the devs will add it to non season too The reason I don't play non season/standard in Poe1 is that I've already played 100-200h on a character and did everything I wanted to do
I think it mostly revolves around Blizzard being a Multi-billion dollar company and CAN'T pump out content at a fraction of the pace of GGG. I think that's one major thing that pisses people off. I genuinely think people want Diablo to be "good" but after seeing all the stuff GGG puts out, it gives people little hope for Blizzard to compete. I know Blizzard has stated they want a more casual friendly game, but honestly I think that's a coping mechanism knowing fully well they can't compete. 🙃
Diablo also isn’t their main focus… you can clearly see last BlizzCon that their sole main focus is not Diablo nor Overwatch… WoW has pretty much been their biggest focus and where most of their resources goes into.
I doubt they even need to compete. There are still people playing D4… people are still going to jump back and forth in between POE leagues 😂 it’s not like this is the end all be all game for the genre…
im Paragon 252 currentlly, but i met a player the other day and he was paragon 30 and hadnt left normal difficulty, no legendaries, nno tempers, just bunch random unigues. he was having fun but also hadnt finished the campaign. i was trying to explain simple things to him but he just didnt listen. lol ppl play how they want, its great both these games offer similair game play with different levels of depth. cant wait for POE2
I plan on playing both, ironically i bought early access before logging on d4 last night (on xbox) and immediately rolled a quad boosted shroud its almost like blizzard knew
@@derekreed4910 Consoles? No POE2 works great on controller from what we have heard, It might be too deep for many players, but thats fine it does not need to be suited for every player base or demographic.
@@derekreed4910well poe1 on console was broken(might still be) so hopefully it isn't because console is a huge market. I doubt we'll be playing together well I hope wr aren't because that's the issue with d4 anf why it stutters so much. The cross play. You turn it off and it stops.
You don't need to manually swap weapons anymore. Instead, when setting up a skill, you can assign it to either Weapon Swap 1 or 2. Once that's done, casting the skill will automatically switch both your weapon and passive configuration. It makes the whole process much more seamless-and even more powerful!
This topic is so goofy and immature. We all just want our favourite IPs to live up to the modern expectations, Diablo or otherwise, but the whining is pathetic and itll just make the devs hate the players
Its very simple imo for comparison - POE2 is not focused on just MONEY like blizzard is. Blizzard released their game approximately a year early just for the sake of money and getting money where GGG is taking the time to do it right and not focused solely on money.... When you focus on a good game vs money everyone wins.
If Blizz would have nerfed SB earlier, it'd have been better. Instead, you have 60% of the playerbase playing SB and blasting literally everything in a fraction of the time. You also had players who were playing the other classes feeling burned in all activities because of how blatantly weak they were in comparison and how irrelevant they were in a majority of these activities because of SBs overwhelming ability. That being said. D4 is not a bad game. PoE2 will be another successful arpg for sure but will remain niche. You can be sure of it.
They won't. Blizzard just want money now and their games are souless. People still not getting over them so they keep making money and keep on underdelivering.
@@SmHy23 have you met Blizz devs in person before? They are just as passionate about the game they work on as any other game dev. Being disrespectful to them is pretty ignorant and kinda a dick move. Every company wants money 🤣 GGG is owned by Tencent, trust me that if POE slips in anyway… Tencent will step in 🤣
@@deadjosh13 just look at their vibe and how they talk about their game during the little campfires compared to GGG at the livestream reveal. Tells you everything.
Only D4 season I didn’t play was season 5 - but I’m 100% done with D4. The devs are completely incompetent and lazy. Only good builds are bugged builds and 95% of builds are not viable and zero endgame content. All the content is trivial and just to farm mats to kill bosses. After watching the POE trailer I know it will be a very easy decision. It’s not even close. If blizzard fires their devs and get some real gamers to develop the game and completely revolutionize it I’ll come back.
i hear excitement for the upcoming PoE 2 but i am worried just like Zana! Zana: Are you still sane Exile? Zana: But at least you're done now, right, Exile? You'll leave the Atlas alone... right? On to The Endless Loop of mapping and Bossing!
Played d4 since launch and there is a sad truth to describe the game: unfinished. Dont get me wrong its since original Diablo when I was a kid that for me arpg means Diablo, but from 3 and then 4 wasnt just the same feelings for me. Maybe because I'm aging and have a bit of nostalgia, dont know. Hope PoE2 will be a friendly game to delve into. But let me say somethings good to the D4 team: art, cinematics, musics, there is no way GGG will surpass those 3 branches of the game, ever. But they did for sure about gameplay
"Hope PoE2 will be a friendly game to delve into." When I started someone gave me the best tip that now I give to anyone wanting to jump into PoE. It will be friendly as long as you don't try to take all its multiple systems all at once. Do the opposite and take one at a time. Test all the classes, pick the one that ressonated with you the most and stick with it. Then test a couple of skills, test them as well and pick one or 2 you find fun to play with. And that's it for your first choices as an Exile. The passive skill tree is often mentioned as intimidating because of its size. Sure, if you zoom out and look at its entirelly, it is massive. But when start just focus on the starting nodes and picking up what makes sense to you having in mind the class and skill you chose. The passive tree is the same for all classes, they just start in different locations of it. So the starting nodes should all synergize well with what you picked as your starter. Same principle with your items. Then you go from there, no need to overthink anything at the start. Before you know, you will be quite deep in the passive tree, the things that might not have made much sense on day 1 will feel quite familiar at this point and you will have a functional build. Will it be the best build? Not even close, but it will be good enough to keep you going, learning the game and progressing. This early access will last 6 months with no seasons, so no resets. Take the game at your own pace, one thing at a time and you should be fine and probably will enjoy the game a lot. If you get stuck at any point, just ask the community in game chat, you'll be surprised how many people will try to help. Wish you the best of luck and that the game provides you the thousands of hours of fun PoE 1 provided me!
In these times of divisive politics, farming outrage and causing division appears to be a common trend, someone in Rod's position should be ashamed of themself. There are players who are very disappointed with Blizzard and D4, considering the price paid for the title. Sadly Rod is riding on the coat tails of D2 which was developed by Blizzard North RIP.
I’m curious what happened to the Vitrol aimed at Last Epoch because everybody was comparing that to LE but since that lost steam on social media nobody talks about it. But yea the point is most people aren’t reading comments who play Diablo 4 anyways. In the end it’s money and quarter earnings that matter for the further development of these games. The Chinese Diablo player base is enough to prop the game as it’s doing with Diablo immortal so that’s fine. Competition is great
I love the diablo series and in D4 I spent more than 200€, but I'm very disappointed by Blizzard's lack of desire to improve it so even if at the beginning I didn't want to pay 30€ for ea of poe 2 now I'm convinced to buy it to support the GGG because they deserve it from what the streamers say I want to trust them. PS. Poe 2 won't come out in my language, but I'll buy it anyway even if I don't speak English well 😁
I spent a little bit of money on D4 as well hoping it would get better. I think it was just wishful thinking. I’m not really sure if the D4 team really know what they want the game to be. It took D3 25+ seasons to finally feel good. Let’s hope that’s not the case for D4…
I will play, and enjoy both games. Such as I have enjoyed LE launch. People should just stop being so polarised on everything. Have your fun, let others have theirs, no need to be judgemental if I like something more. This is highly subjective, can change over time. Diablo 4 has its own problems, PoE 2 might have its own, and it's totally ok. Stay on the positive note guys.
@@joeychizzel Understand that, but I made my comment for reasonable people, like you for example, and not just clickbait eaters, or surface emotion consumers :)
Dude I’ve played D4 every season. I’ve spent a decent about of money on it as well. Hate aside, you can still be objective. And objectively the game is just rough. They kinda turned it into D3 with more things to do and whether it was intentional or not? I’m not sure.
@@MrxLethal I think it was a natural turn, after D2 playerbase left unsatisfied with game paste, and mechanics. The only audience left is most of D3 fanbase, and newcomers now.
I'm already passed 30 and I really seen it all... Played with all... for example high level of D2, and yes there was always dupe and lot of bugs. We accepted it, without complaining. We enjoyed the way it was. No matter D2, WoW, POE no game will be satisfaction for lot of players. I already learned to value my time and not invest it for endless content game like POE and WoW (I did it, this is how I learned it.). Belive me, sometimes less content is more. D4 is far from perfect, but they are really listening you, whatever you want...arnory, class balance, you name it. No point to blame it, you have the chance to tell them how would you like to play it. The problem is not in the games, it is in your endless dissatisfaction.
So, if you don't have thousands of hours to spend on a game or if you want to play other games, it's better to stay on Diablo4, right? I am not sarcastic, this is genuine question because the game looks incredible but intimidating. I only want to spend 2-3 weeks and return after some months, I like this formula.
If you don’t have time poe is still fine to play, the insane endgame gives you lots of options but litterally no one has time to do all of it. The difference is that while d4 has one endgame grind Poe has 20 different ones, it just gives you choice. If you can only play a little bit each week you just focus on one mechanic and progress that. Only thing i would say is if you want to play solo self found you need more time as you can’t trade for currencies behind mechanics. But on trade league you can sell your mechanics currency and buy the mechanics you don’t play from others. GGG balance it so that no mechanic is mandatory and the rewards are fairly even across the board. People get overwhelmed because they try to do everything at once but if you just focus on one mechanic at a time you will be fine. I have played like 5 leagues and still haven’t done like 60% of the mechanics but I still have a strong character every league playing different mechanicsz The only mandatory time sink is the campaign but that’s fun and part of any arpg. Once you get good you can rush through it
sad thing is diablo 4 could of been so much more if they added real runewords and not this dumbed down version of it on top of not having nowhere near a great endgame a year in. poe 2 early access already has a better end game and more classes on top of way more builds. blizzard needs to take notes on how unique the skills are in poe 2 and poe1 and do they own thing with it.
What has always been shocking to me is Blizz’s insistence on completely moving away from the gameplay, systems, itemization, and concepts that made D2 the GOAT. They literally tossed everything Brevik and Schaeffer did into the trash and have had to rediscover how to make an inferior ARPG using the Diablo name twice now. For example, how the hell does D4 not have a robust crafting system by now? All they had to do was refine and build upon D2 and instead they’ve been spinning their wheels for two decades
And then repeat for D3toD4. Yall like greater rifts? Well, we took em out. Yall hate bounties? Well, we made something identical to them that you have to grind til next update😂
They shouldn't be worried. People that already don't enjoy POE aren't going to enjoy POE2. It's still basically the same game. D4 has a massive playebase compared to Path. POE2 will get a big bump in early Dec, and then most people will say "oh yea, this is why I dont play POE". Then it'll go back to being a niche game for the hard-core players. Nothing wrong with that either.
I've played POE 1 a few years ago and it was stressful. I like diablo 4 because it was simple. While I do like the look of POE 2, I am afraid it might be too complicated like POE 1. At the same time, I do agree D4 is starting to feel grindy and boring with the lack of end-game content.
I just think there's a point of clarification about this idea of "fighting with the D4 player base". Nobody is upset with D4 players. BLIZZARD, and Activision, have spent a decade plus causing negative headline after negative headline, abusing their employees, and ruining one after another cherished gaming franchise through ENTIRELY THEIR OWN DECISIONS. They've become short hand for terrible gaming industry decisions, malfeasance, and naked short sighted greed. They're a trash pile. People don't want to dunk on D4 players. They want to dunk on Blizz. 🤷♂️
I think this is what a lot people seem to misunderstand, when people say stuff like 'D4 bad', they're not going after the people playing D4 but rather Blizzard for completely ruining a beloved franchise. D3 was already a lost cause but people had high hopes for D4, and I can hardly recall the last time a game failed to live up to expectations to this degree and that isn't the fault of the players, but rather Blizzard themselves. Think it's just shown that the only Blizzard that could actually create ARPG's were Blizzard North/Condor Studios which got shut down by Blizzard's parent company Vivendi back in 2005.
@@ArcticunI would say different… I have seen plenty of PoE players being hella toxic in D4 streamers chat. Calling names, telling them that they are dumb for playing a game. It actually made me not want to play POE a lot of the times… the tribalism is so stupid
As someone who hasn't played any Diablo or POE games i do think they should have a more specific genre name than just ARPG, as I feel ARPG can also refer to any RPG with a heavy focus on combat such as souls games, id also like to mention that even before diablo the term ARPG existed and was used to describe basically any RPG that wasnt turn based, also the name doesn't have to be diablolike it could be a combo of both game names akin to Metroidvania
Console wars, companies war, and then fanboys war. I don’t like it at all. As an older gamer I own all consoles and have a high end PC. I play everything. I’ve played all Diablo games and I’ve played POE. I play Diablo because it fits my play style. POE is awesome I just choose to play Diablo more. I will give POE2 a try. What Blizzard needs to do is listen to its players. As a live service game what’s the problem. Give us what we’ve been asking for. How come at this stage we get excited for an Armory?! How come there’s people who still haven’t gotten an Uber Unique? I’m glad POE is coming because it seems a drop off from its installed base, maybe is what Diablo 4 needs.
Preach! Diablo 4 team has been able to sit back and not improve the game with a sense of urgency because there was no competition to lose players to. Now, hopefully we’ll see them improve the game faster 👍
POE and D4 have completely different audiences. POE is for no-lifer farmers that can play for 1000 hours and develop complex builds. D4 is for Noobs/Advance players who like to relax, blow up some monsters and move on. In D4 i managed to do pit 150 like Rob, in POE id never achieve as much as pro players and players dont like that
exactly, this whole niche of gaming is weird to me because im mainly a counter strike player. ive never played wow or any other mmo, d4 was my first arpg. it just seems so incredibly neckbeardy, poe fans talking about how you can play thousands of hours and how much you have to use your brain etc. poe doesnt require any additional intelligence or mental elasticity, it requires a lot of research and learning. the idea that that is inherently better is wild to me. i like d4 because it looks good, plays good on a controller, and i can just chill and smoke bowls while hanging out with friends. i can also farm it with a podcast on in the background if i have nothing to do during the day etc. if i wanna sit at my desk and try hard at something ill play cs2, an actual competitive game that actually takes a lot of brain power, im not gonna sit at my desk for 10 hours a day to play a PVE horde killing game lol, who the fuck does that? and why do they think theyre better than the rest of the world?
POE2 looks absolutely stunning. The graphics are incredible now. The game looks so rich with depth and complexity but has been simplified and refined. I love how you can respec with gold and the skill gem system is vastly improved. I hated the colored link system in POE1. The classes are incredibly diverse and I'm struggling on which one to play first, but leaning towards minions. I enjoy Diablo but I think the POE 2 will reign supreme in so many ways.
I agree. Its like elementary school vs university. You dont want to send your children to uni straigh away but learn the basics but you will overgrown those quite fast and there is more in the world.
@deadjosh13 Hate? Did you even watched the video? its Your D4 Rod who cant contain his jelously and wanted his shtty D4 game recognition to make poe "diablo-like" even his not even part of the legacy Blizzard north has originality established. Rod is cying in jelousy and ur here worried about ur job as Blizzards dog
GGG developers themselves are Diablo 2 fans. Last Exilecon they had Diablo 1 & 2 developers as Guests of Honor in a Q&A panel. Chris Wilson was also openly critical of Diablo:Immortal. Why PoE players and developers say "D4 bad" does not come from a place of smugness but from a place of disappointment. Modern Blizzard simply cannot make good Diablo games anymore, they're far more focused into gouging out more money from susceptible casual players than actually delivering good products.
There has to be good competition in order for better games to be made. Hopefully, Blizzard will see just how much hard work GGG has put into POE 2 and will take notes to make a better diablo games, not to mention POE 2 is a friggen free game.
Rouge like is named that way because of the specific gameplay loop of Rouge (1985) -- play, die, start over (with new level layout). "Diablo like" doesn't work because the gameplay loop is better defined as ARPG -- real time action, role playing game. If the naming convention was based off of Diablo 1's skill book system, or Diablo 2's skill tree/itemization, then you might have an argument. But then you run into the issue that most Diablo games wouldn't even be called "Diablo like" they would be "Diablo lite" (Rouge like -> Rouge lite) --lite meaning they have a very surface level connection to the genre but are changed too much.
Competition works only if the leaders of the companies acknowledge the competitors, if they think their product is on another category, there is no competition. Sadly, nobody saying anything about LE (even devs), competition in 3 it would have been so good as a consumer having the option to choose the best option anytime during the year depending on games cycles.
Yes, of course. It'd be good if both Diablo and POE progress for the best, however, Rob, let's be honest. You can't possibly sleep in two houses at the same exact time. So what I mean is, our time as a gamer is the variable here. Would you spend your time with Diablo or POE? If you choose both, you'll be left behind. You can't possibly stay in the middle of the road, you have to pick which side walks to walk on.
You do realize Diablo isn’t Blizzards main source of income right? It’s a portion but not the biggest nor the main income… it’s also no where close as big of a team as their main game.. ie. WoW
You don't think blizzard scheduled the announcement to be at the same time? How about D2R's new season starting on december 6th? (Which was announced AFTER PoE's date reveal) You're copying if you think blizard isn't trying all tricks in the book to divert attention from PoE. It is what blizzard has always done. Back when other MMOs were bigger, they'd try their best to put WoW events or expansions matching the competitor's launches. They done it with GW2, they done it with SWTOR, they done it with FF14.
Maybe there's some kind of way for you, to cover a bit of PoE 2's content on a live talk with Jonathan Rogers himself ? I'm pretty sure he would gladly have that kind of promotion, with such a big Arpg content creator like the one you're 👍🏼
If that means they felt D4 may have been hugely unpolished then they had plenty of time to polish it instead of floundering around to find the Eureka moment.
Based on how the game is today, over 1 year after release, i doubt it would change anything. Just like ^ above said, polishing a turd for x time will not turn it into a candy, just a more shiny turd. This game's core design is just terrible. It was made with the intention of being a simple game that looks pretty and sells as many copies as possible with gimmicks. PoE 2's gameplay trailer showed that each weapon has 20+ active skills, and there are like 10+ weapon types. A huge amount of various support skills to alter them + unique items with unique mechanics + passive skill nodes that do the same. Now compare it to D4's skill tree, 1 class has like a few core skills to make builds around and a few uniques per class, with many of them being straight up useless, lol. It's just a game for toddlers in comparison.
Here is the thing that gets me, Its Rod Ferguson that is saying this... The man didnt work on Diablo 2. He has worked on, and struggled, to take D4 out of a beta stage, bc if you need a year to fix a game its still a beta, and he wants to say that things Should be called "Diablo-like". He has nothing to do with the success of D2. He doesnt acknowledge that POE 2 for an EA, is stunning, and rather than say something constructive like, "we could learn some things", or even Good Job, glad to see another ARPG, he decides to rub salt, and create a scene. They ignore feedback until they have no choice. The world of Diablo is great, amazing lore, but its people like Rod that are sinking the ship. His statement is very unprofessional. The problem now is, D4 can't change, and it won't, because to bring D4 up to where it is considered competitive now, would require a whole new game and honestly, if POE 2 is as accessible for casual players now, Im not sure D4 will be able to recover, unless they massively change their price points, because I know I will NEVER pay again what I paid for D4 for another Diablo game. I feel like I got ripped off the past year. I think as more players see this, and explore the idea of POE, I just dont think Diablo 4 will get away with many more mistakes.
It's crazy that Blizzard had the greatest rpg of all-time: D2 Lod (where the literal PoE Devs met & take inspiration from) - And they refused to expand and improve upon that base. The fact they dropped the itemization from D2 should be an actual crime lol. D4 is okish - I've played it a lot, but I didn't really have much options. Now with fresh start for PoE I'm definitely giving it a try🙏
The problem is that the PoE1 and PoE2 are more Diablo-like than D4. How many current Blizzard devs were even playing D2? 5% 0%? They have no idea how to create a Diablo-like game anymore. I like to play D4 from time to time and nothing more because there is no content to keep me for longer. There is 0 depth in this game starting from SkillTree and finishing with EndGame activities. But hey... We play for FUN, so play what you enjoy most.
7:04 I get why we could give him the benefit of the doubt here, but Blizzard has a history of doing this as a business model. I remember how WoW reveals, betas und similiar stuff would always match up with their MMO competition "for some reason".
I’m having fun with D4, but the end game can be a repetitive grind. PoE seems to have much more depth, complexity, difficulty, and reward. I can see myself playing PoE for a very long time.
It's not tribalism , I never played Poe in my life. I'm just tired after 18 months of Diablo 4 and keep saying that next time everything will finally be fixed. Its a mid game and they keep screwing things up. The talent tree's are a joke and most of the game is an insult of peoples intellgence like where a bunch of 5 year olds that only played Pokemon as our only rpg. On top of that Blizzard has been making bad content for a good while now atleast 5-8 years and to top of it of its clearly all about the money now , 90 bucks mounts overpriced armor sets and nothing cool ingame and the list goes on. I would play both if both where really good games but this is simply not the case so i'm moving on , there are allot of good games why play something you don't like? Maby Poe2 will be bad aswell than ill quit both but so far what they have shown completly nukes Diablo 4 for me and many others have made this same comment. Blizzard had there chance if mcdonald gives you a food poisoning 5 times in a row and you get yelled at every time you wont come back eather. GGG seems to make games for gamers , Blizzard is corporate company run by the wrong people simple as that ;)
I've played D3 for 1500h , D4 for like 500h , D2 for like 2000h and Poe for 4500h . D3,D4 are arcady games for me, D3 in the past I would play for 14h solo,get to Para 700,GR 100 do billions of dmg and then get bored. It's kinda similar in D4 20-30h of play get good gear and stop. Poe1 on the other for 100-300h on a character For a game it's bad when people stop talking and are indifferent. People say their opinion because they care and want a better game ,they expected better from a billion $ company Back in the day the Blizzard devs were like the GGG devs , passionate gamers. Now the higher ups are not like that ,their goal is to make money, but you can make money with a good product and respect of your player base. That's why people are buying 480$ supporter packs in Poe The GGG devs are huge Diablo 2 fans, they played the game a ton and you can see the systems in Poe1. Poe1 is the evolution of D2 and Poe2 is the evolution of Poe1
I think the diablo devs just don’t know what they want the game to be. I was hoping they’d slow the game down, not have scaling in the billions and not have legendaries drop like D3. Instead, they basically made D4 exactly like D3 except you have more things to do. They weren’t even creative with new skills. The abilities don’t even change you can just cast more or make them larger. So many character skills are directly ripped from D3.
The problem with Diablo 4 is developers that thinks that fun endgame is a slow paragon grind and that mythic uniques should be easier to get than ancestral legendary items. And that it's fun that skills like whirlwind is doing zero damage and dust devils are doing all the damage. They should change the skill name from whirlwind to dust devils and remove the spin effect. The always mess up. The game was getting better and now it's worse than ever.
I would really like to see Blizzard take some inspiration from GGG and PoE1/2. I would like to see D4 take more risks and add mechanics/content for the hardcore and not be so focused on just the casual audience. It already has a very low barrier of entry and anyone can easily complete all content. I play both games at every season launch but D4 rarely sticks for as long as a PoE season, would love to see that change
I don't wish bad things on Diablo 4 but I will say they frustrate me with a lot of their decisions. Seeing what PoE2 will have in early access really has me confused on what Diablo did with all of their development time and what they work on in between seasons. It just doesn't make sense to me (5 classes with less depth on full release vs 6/12 classes with huge depth and crazy endgame on Early access).
the creators of d2 left a long time ago for ggg, that's why poe 2 is brilliant and diablo 4 is so poor. Blizzard is just a name, there are no creative people there
The biggest plroblem with blizzard, is the stupid player base... D4 at launch, we had à completely different game, and all the streamers and followers COMPLAINED about everything!!! There was no armory, because it was going à different direction, it was going to be something new. But Blizz decided to listen to all these complaints, and went 360 degrees back, went back to old d3 vibes, and now everyone is complaining that there is nothing new... no evolution, no new ideas. Its all because of the shit feedback. Now we have playes comparing a game that does their own thing and evryone is so happy with ggg.. but no one let d4 be its own new thing. Everyone should have let D4 cook its own new path, its own vision, and we probably wouldnt even be having this discussion today if for 1 year of dev time, Blizz didnt have to redo and rework the entre game. They could have actually worked on improving new things and creat new ideas.but they had to waste all this to scrap D4 and remake D3... because of the loud majority. And these same people are still complaining...
Except D4 before all these changes was EVEN MORE simple. Bro they had no vision that's the entire point, that's why there were so many people complaining about useless items with stupid affixes, not enough chase items, no content to do, most of the skills being useless etc. Game was literally braindead at release, now it's also braindead but at least there's more variety added to it. You can watch those people during campfire streams and see how they genuinely don't get it.
@@imonyourside8376 we didnt need one, because we were supposed to commit to a build... items were few and far between, so you stick with what you have. Now, with the new loot system and speed running, armory is needed
If I remember correctly, Path of Exile's name comes from the runeword Exile in Diablo 2. It has been NO secret POE devs are HEAVILY inspired by the GOAT, d1&d2.
I don’t get why they are keeping the stupid inventory system from Diablo 2. Why does a 2H mace take 8 slots in the inv? It should be 1 item, 1 slot. I don’t want to play an Inventory Management Simulator!
Missed opportunity on the "Jake vs Mike Tyson = PoE2 vs Diablo4" photo to have the ring girl there in the middle as yourself 😂 PoE2 hype! Counting the days here. I really hope you dive into PoE2 Rob. If so, I will for sure tune in to your stream! I used to watch you a lot for the (short) amount of time I thought D4 was interesting but now I just have no interest in watching D4 content.
What I don‘t understand is that people just can‘t enjoy that what looks like an awesome game is coming out. Something esls has to be going down or „be in trouble“. F***ing drama has to be everywhere.
I do not hate on D4 due to PoE. I am starting to hate D4 due to the devs making wrong decision after wrong decision. I played VoH and did the Paragon 300 grind and I must say, this game has taken a massive step backwards and has several things getting worse. From a person that was involved with the D4 end game beta to now, I have seen how the game has steadily gone downhill since. I hope D4 gets better but I do not see it happening any time soon.
Blizzard's story is the same as so many large corporations. The shareholder and employee bargaining power become more important than the game and its players. It needs to crash so it can be rebuilt from scratch.
"Ship of Theseus" if you replace all the planks in it, is it still the same ship? Blizard is a money-hungry shadow of itself and Diablo 4 is the worst part of the entire series.
It seems to that if Blizzard was really listening to its player base and actively making the game good instead of supplying bandaids and taking their sweet time on things that are overwhelmingly requested, blizzard wouldn’t be going thru this. Unfortunately their false confidence in thinking they can keep a player base off name alone will bite them in the bum because a lot of players will not return. Way to self sabotage a potentially good game blizzard!
I mean he is not wrong. POE and Diablo may have the same inspirations but they are so far apart it is like you would say Need for Speed and Assetto Corsa is the same Genre just because both have cars in them.
I paid 100 usd for diablo 4, and only played 2 seasons... The campaing was good the cinemastics were great but zero end game... But what killed diablo for me was the yearly expansions which are a forced yearly subscription in disguise... Now if they get new stuff i wont ever come back because of the previus bad experience and also i will need to pay just to test it out??? No thanks they greed is consuming them selves and i like it that way.
I’m genuinely disappointed with Diablo. I’ve been playing since the very beginning, and up until now, it feels like we’re constantly being disappointed. I purchased the expansion, but I feel like I squandered my money. The story is decent, but the character development is abysmal. The sorcerer, once the best class, has plummeted in value, and they’re only making it worse. The game has lost its ability to fulfill the power fantasy and instead weakens us so they can gradually introduce us to new content and minor improvements.
Thanks for the react man. If I didn't communicate it clearly enough in my video: WE WELCOME EVERYONE TO PATH OF EXILE. Come play, we'll do our best to help and become best friends with you. Great to see you giving the game a try, I hope you bring it to a bunch of new people, Rob!
My title was good, wasn't it? ;)
Thanks for the friendly welcome, you are the 0.42% who do that.
Honestly my favorite moments in poe was grouping up with new players and helping them out, veteran players don’t really socialize and just rush.
Just don't do it on Reddit because I downvoted to hell for asking a simple question about itemization. I asked over there if someone can explain how an Unique found at low level can be used at end game?
Systems like that are not beginner friendly and I have 3200 hours in PoE and without a guide I don't know how something with lower level stats can be useful in endgame builds.
@@Zederok Reddit is cancer, there are some decent people who can help elsewhere.
@@Zederok Usually its how it interacts with other skills or mechanics that typically stack or double dip on beneficial mods.
It's an extremely small percentage of players that hate on the other game. Most intelligent people don't get involved in that crap. There is no room for such useless negativity. Most just want both to succeed or they simply don't care about the other.
D4BAD
I find that there is so many comments saying d4 bad but most of the people I encounter in game all love the game and have hundreds of hours. Vocal minority is destroying an other wise good game and honestly I really hope those that give unfettered hate will leave the community for those with genuine criticism or those who enjoy it.
People want to have fun and not blow a gasket when you Temper the same affix 18 times in a row🫤
@ this has only happened to me like 3 ish times this season. I see what you’re saying but I just don’t think this is much of an issue.
No, Diablo is not nice for own communty. They always late for everything. No planning, no good working. Diablo can not success for Diablo4.
The only people who could make this statement are David Brevick and Max Schaefer. Rod had nothing to do with the creation of anything about the Diablo universe or the launch of a new genre. GGG has taken the concept and created an incredible game. I hope POE 2 has great success.
Rod is the actual prime evil that we should eradicate
exactly! back in the d1 and d2 days, when you call a game „diablo-like“ or „diablo-clone“ it was an honor, but nowadays „diablo-like“ will be compared to trash games d3 and d4 is a much more negative reputation, no one wants to have xD
D2 inspired POE and that was the OG Blizzard North devs who inspired them NOT the D3, D4 and certainly NOT Diablo Immortal devs/games. Rod isnt even part of Diablo 2 and its initial development and was only part of shtty downhill mess of D3 and D4. I bet he cant even explain how D4 mechanics and back systems works unlike GGG game directory Jonathan and Chris who really knows their game
Brevik helped Poe with ideas , not wondering the game is that good. Also Rod is simply retarded at this point.
@@paimog9233 shit talking them doesn’t help the slightest either… they are also people, not some robot. Blizzards scale is also much bigger than GGG. Grinding Gears works on one game and one game only, that’s POE. When the companies whole purpose is on 1 game then it’s pretty easy to put all the resource into it. Can critic a game harshly but shit talking devs and assuming they don’t care is very ignorant and pretty disrespectful.
This will forever remain burned in my brain "Leaving dungeon's cast time increased from 3 seconds to 5 seconds". This insignificant line should tell you everything about diablo 4, everything.
also that it was added as a "quality of life" update lmao
😂😂 This is more than enough to tell me I don't need to come back to D4.
That made me laugh so much but also kinda stunned me with how wild that is for them to CHOOSE to make shit take longer
The thing is.. If by "Diablo-like" they mean Diablo 4, then PoE is not Diablo-like.. But if by "Diablo-like" they mean Diablo 2, then Diablo 4 is not, infact, Diablo-like..
Competition exists between 2 games that are trading blows.
Poe 2 is just on another league alone does not need competition to succeed because there is vision compared to Diablo 4.
Diablo needs competition because there is no vision.
Very strange Rod doesn't realize every arpg was "diablo like" until Blizzard damaged it with D3. Hell, back in early 2000 there was not even an arpg genre, it was only diablo like games.
Well yeah, until D3..... You even said it yourself... POE Is more diablo than diablo and would now be POE like
@@C9Kreal No Diablo-like references Diablo 1 and the formula originating from this game, the fact you dont like D3 and D4 doesn't change that. POE did not create the formula, it did innovate and evolv it though. Souls-like references Demon Souls, and should'nt be called Elden-Like now just because Elden ring is a better game.
I don't hateD4. I'm just sad and disappointed of all the missed opportunities. They should have taken many great things, which were there in D2 and D3 but they didn't.
I am just a noob when it comes to PoE as I'v enever even finished the campaign.
At the same time I am so hyped for PoE 2 and have already paid for early access.
It will definitely take me a very long time to learn everything but I'm eagerly looking forward to it.
Shame on Blizzard and well done GGG for pouring your heart and soul into PoE 2.
Those ppl who are new to D4 and not the hardcore or core ARPG genre - if they are the targeted players, the game itself will die and wont be worth to developing it - unless you have a Gread legacy and name and you put lots of cool skins for money - well those ppl will buy and make the Q1 and Q2 market good look - for investors - yet the game still will suck - Like D4.
@@richardholko9846 If they copy pasted the whole poe1 game into poe2 with the new engine, it would already be a better game than d4. They could literally do nothing and it would already be better right out the gate.
For poe2 to fail, they'd have to do the dumb d3 and d4 thing where they ignore what worked in the previous iteration and do the new game from total scratch.
So like in d2, they have all these different items and gear. Well in d3 that's all gone.
In d3, everyone hated bounties and loved GRs. So in d4, they forced everyone to basically walk around doing chores, just like bounties. Nightmare dungeons are just bounties in a dungeon. Helltides at launch was walking around for 5 minutes looking for mobs, so just like bounties.
Gamers don't care about fiscal quarters or investors. They're interested in quantity and quality of content. Obviously more people will buy into a AAA studio from pure brand loyalty or just buying into trendy things with no brain.
If poe1 didn't die after over a decade, poe2 wouldn't die. Their monetization model is the same. Poe2 just has to not be worse than poe1 and they will be successful. Unlike d3 d4, it requires you to have a working brain, so maybe you're better off with d4.
@@doryfishie2 Aye they kinda did and the most controversial things retalents and other things which hardened the gameplay got more easier thats all - you are right, poe1 still better than D4 and poe2 will be king of the ARPGs if they dont mess this up.
GGG themselves have stated MULTIPLE times on air that they were inspired by Diablo games - it's NO SECRET. The never hid this fact. What they didn't say was that they were INSPIRED by D2. Not D3/4 out of respect and diplomacy. Look @ D4 now. It's a FUCKING MESS. Given one class 10000000x the power to "sell' an expansion. Shameless and clueless that's why I had to uninstall it. I very much regret my purchase of the expansion.
Same thing that every shooter was inspired by Doom or all cars evolved from the Model T, build it bigger better faster.
@@laars0001 Model T was not first car dude,it was mercedes
@ you get my drift...
Like they even need to acknowledge it. All isometric ARPGs in this vein are inspired by Diablo.
Pretty sure they have said they were inspired by Diablo 2, specifically.
Personally, I'm tired of all the grinding in D4, I realize that every ARPG will require a lot of grinding. But what I hate is the gambling style of upgrading your gear. I'm sick of grinding of obdecite only to fail in upgrading my gear. All that time with nothing to show for. From tempering, to masterworking, the odds of getting what you want is slim at best without hours and hours of grinding. I would rather work (grind) for something tangible, grind for something that i know will come to fruition, as long as I grind the necessary materials to make the gear i need, I don't want to grind for hours and because of bad RNG nothing to show for. And every season it takes more time, and less chances to get what you want, to say it simply, it's so hard to get what you want, and every season it becomes even harder.
The ironic thing is none of this needed to happen. I personally think the original itemization system would have been fine if they had just given us a loot filter, then we could have just been excited when a good item dropped which was exactly what they wanted in the first place. Their refusal has led to this gacha-game of tempering and masterworking that turns the game into a crafting simulator
Easy fix for your problem - trading! PoE has trading!
Just farm some currency and buy the thing instead of upgrading it yourself. In that sense, any content you do ANYWHERE is working towards that next upgrade you're excited about, as long as its earning currency.
Competition assumes the opposition cares.
Not technically. Competition doesn't require opposition to acknowledge it. It's on the latter to recognize the risk of former existence.
Actual OG D2 devs were in the Exilecon, THE DEVS passed the torch to Path of Exile, so Rod is just silly at this point.
What Rod should have tweeted was something like that PoE stream was awesome. People would have responded to that well
there wasn't any competition, Rob.
Diablo devs have long known about PoE's popularity lol.
It's not only blue and yellow items that are useless in D4, around 75% of uniques are useless and people only use maybe half of the Mythic items? Not sure what a good guess on aspects would be but I would guess at least 50% are useless. As long as D4 has all these ridiculous, out of control multipliers everywhere and it stays on this constant 3 month cycle of huge buff/nerf swings with the devs choosing what people will play nothing will change.
The original founding members of grinding gear games all met playing diablo 2. They love diablo as much as all of us. Excited for POE2, hope you enjoy learning the game, it's seemingly a lot more approachable than POE1.
Gamer dad here with 3 wives and 10 kids, I’m enticed to play POE but there is no way I’d engage in seasonal play. Ain’t no time for that and that’s fine. Slow progress through non-season would be the way to go for me.
You can if you focus on solo and not coop.
Maybe these games just aren't for you? The games thrive on seasonal play if you don't have the time I totally get that but it's kinda why the games remain relevant at the same time
@ yup agreed, hence why I stopped playing Diablo 4. I play WoW because the seasons are way longer and much more manageable for solo players with limited time as the pressure of chugging through a POE seasoning 3-4 months for rewards is unnecessary stress. To be fair it’s obviously a game knowledge issue. I’m sure that once I’ve gone through the systems of POE at my own pace once then I could get through seasonal content faster to make seasons worth it but time will tell.z
Seasons are not required. The games hundreds of hours long anyway.
People don't understand the ways of SSF
You 100% can play non season , Poe2 will have so much content and after a season is done if the season mechanic is received well the devs will add it to non season too
The reason I don't play non season/standard in Poe1 is that I've already played 100-200h on a character and did everything I wanted to do
I think it mostly revolves around Blizzard being a Multi-billion dollar company and CAN'T pump out content at a fraction of the pace of GGG. I think that's one major thing that pisses people off. I genuinely think people want Diablo to be "good" but after seeing all the stuff GGG puts out, it gives people little hope for Blizzard to compete. I know Blizzard has stated they want a more casual friendly game, but honestly I think that's a coping mechanism knowing fully well they can't compete. 🙃
Diablo also isn’t their main focus… you can clearly see last BlizzCon that their sole main focus is not Diablo nor Overwatch… WoW has pretty much been their biggest focus and where most of their resources goes into.
I doubt they even need to compete. There are still people playing D4… people are still going to jump back and forth in between POE leagues 😂 it’s not like this is the end all be all game for the genre…
im Paragon 252 currentlly, but i met a player the other day and he was paragon 30 and hadnt left normal difficulty, no legendaries, nno tempers, just bunch random unigues. he was having fun but also hadnt finished the campaign. i was trying to explain simple things to him but he just didnt listen. lol ppl play how they want, its great both these games offer similair game play with different levels of depth. cant wait for POE2
that guy: whats this weirdo talking about
@vbaldokaizen8748 pretty much in trying to explain tree of whisper. He hadn't finished the campaign, so nothing was unlocked. I'm like bruh
I plan on playing both, ironically i bought early access before logging on d4 last night (on xbox) and immediately rolled a quad boosted shroud its almost like blizzard knew
I wonder if poe2 will be too advanced for consoles. I hope not because I'm done with PC gaming
@@derekreed4910 Consoles? No POE2 works great on controller from what we have heard, It might be too deep for many players, but thats fine it does not need to be suited for every player base or demographic.
@@derekreed4910well poe1 on console was broken(might still be) so hopefully it isn't because console is a huge market. I doubt we'll be playing together well I hope wr aren't because that's the issue with d4 anf why it stutters so much. The cross play. You turn it off and it stops.
You don't need to manually swap weapons anymore. Instead, when setting up a skill, you can assign it to either Weapon Swap 1 or 2. Once that's done, casting the skill will automatically switch both your weapon and passive configuration. It makes the whole process much more seamless-and even more powerful!
This topic is so goofy and immature. We all just want our favourite IPs to live up to the modern expectations, Diablo or otherwise, but the whining is pathetic and itll just make the devs hate the players
Its very simple imo for comparison - POE2 is not focused on just MONEY like blizzard is. Blizzard released their game approximately a year early just for the sake of money and getting money where GGG is taking the time to do it right and not focused solely on money.... When you focus on a good game vs money everyone wins.
If Blizz would have nerfed SB earlier, it'd have been better. Instead, you have 60% of the playerbase playing SB and blasting literally everything in a fraction of the time. You also had players who were playing the other classes feeling burned in all activities because of how blatantly weak they were in comparison and how irrelevant they were in a majority of these activities because of SBs overwhelming ability. That being said. D4 is not a bad game. PoE2 will be another successful arpg for sure but will remain niche. You can be sure of it.
Without competition you can not improve, I'm a Diablo fan and i hope POE will be amazing so Diablo improves more and more.
They won't. Blizzard just want money now and their games are souless. People still not getting over them so they keep making money and keep on underdelivering.
@@SmHy23 have you met Blizz devs in person before? They are just as passionate about the game they work on as any other game dev. Being disrespectful to them is pretty ignorant and kinda a dick move. Every company wants money 🤣 GGG is owned by Tencent, trust me that if POE slips in anyway… Tencent will step in 🤣
@@deadjosh13wait really tencent owns them that company is shady as hell
@@deadjosh13 just look at their vibe and how they talk about their game during the little campfires compared to GGG at the livestream reveal. Tells you everything.
I’m so excited to play the game with you, Rob! Looking forward to your great videos and guides.
They KNEW Rob, don't ever doubt it Blizz KNEW.
Yeah, Blizz in no way knew the reveal date of GGG. LOL....just impossible for them to get this information.🤣🤣
No Diablo in a Diablo game. No Mephisto in a Mephisto xpac. D4BAD
d4 lost by K.O in round 1
D4 couldn’t even make weight to compete in the fight
and the Fight didnt even started yet xD
Only D4 season I didn’t play was season 5 - but I’m 100% done with D4. The devs are completely incompetent and lazy. Only good builds are bugged builds and 95% of builds are not viable and zero endgame content. All the content is trivial and just to farm mats to kill bosses. After watching the POE trailer I know it will be a very easy decision. It’s not even close. If blizzard fires their devs and get some real gamers to develop the game and completely revolutionize it I’ll come back.
i hear excitement for the upcoming PoE 2 but i am worried just like Zana!
Zana: Are you still sane Exile?
Zana: But at least you're done now, right, Exile? You'll leave the Atlas alone... right?
On to The Endless Loop of mapping and Bossing!
Im just glad there are other ARPGs we are all looking forward to. This will also hopefully push Blizzard to do better. Competition is good!
Played d4 since launch and there is a sad truth to describe the game: unfinished.
Dont get me wrong its since original Diablo when I was a kid that for me arpg means Diablo, but from 3 and then 4 wasnt just the same feelings for me. Maybe because I'm aging and have a bit of nostalgia, dont know.
Hope PoE2 will be a friendly game to delve into.
But let me say somethings good to the D4 team: art, cinematics, musics, there is no way GGG will surpass those 3 branches of the game, ever. But they did for sure about gameplay
those three elements are the most expensive yet destroyed by the cheapest element. 😂
Wait till POE2 isn’t finished and see what happens. It’s free with an asterisk.
"Hope PoE2 will be a friendly game to delve into." When I started someone gave me the best tip that now I give to anyone wanting to jump into PoE. It will be friendly as long as you don't try to take all its multiple systems all at once. Do the opposite and take one at a time. Test all the classes, pick the one that ressonated with you the most and stick with it. Then test a couple of skills, test them as well and pick one or 2 you find fun to play with. And that's it for your first choices as an Exile.
The passive skill tree is often mentioned as intimidating because of its size. Sure, if you zoom out and look at its entirelly, it is massive. But when start just focus on the starting nodes and picking up what makes sense to you having in mind the class and skill you chose. The passive tree is the same for all classes, they just start in different locations of it. So the starting nodes should all synergize well with what you picked as your starter. Same principle with your items. Then you go from there, no need to overthink anything at the start. Before you know, you will be quite deep in the passive tree, the things that might not have made much sense on day 1 will feel quite familiar at this point and you will have a functional build. Will it be the best build? Not even close, but it will be good enough to keep you going, learning the game and progressing.
This early access will last 6 months with no seasons, so no resets. Take the game at your own pace, one thing at a time and you should be fine and probably will enjoy the game a lot. If you get stuck at any point, just ask the community in game chat, you'll be surprised how many people will try to help.
Wish you the best of luck and that the game provides you the thousands of hours of fun PoE 1 provided me!
I think most old school diablo1 people feel exactly like you do. But poe2 can also beat d4 in art, cinematics and musics too
lmao, you know nothing about poe music and art and it shows. search a bit about poe1 music and when u find kamil, come back here and edit your post
In these times of divisive politics, farming outrage and causing division appears to be a common trend, someone in Rod's position should be ashamed of themself.
There are players who are very disappointed with Blizzard and D4, considering the price paid for the title.
Sadly Rod is riding on the coat tails of D2 which was developed by Blizzard North RIP.
I’m curious what happened to the Vitrol aimed at Last Epoch because everybody was comparing that to LE but since that lost steam on social media nobody talks about it. But yea the point is most people aren’t reading comments who play Diablo 4 anyways. In the end it’s money and quarter earnings that matter for the further development of these games. The Chinese Diablo player base is enough to prop the game as it’s doing with Diablo immortal so that’s fine. Competition is great
I love the diablo series and in D4 I spent more than 200€, but I'm very disappointed by Blizzard's lack of desire to improve it so even if at the beginning I didn't want to pay 30€ for ea of poe 2 now I'm convinced to buy it to support the GGG because they deserve it from what the streamers say I want to trust them.
PS. Poe 2 won't come out in my language, but I'll buy it anyway even if I don't speak English well 😁
I spent a little bit of money on D4 as well hoping it would get better. I think it was just wishful thinking. I’m not really sure if the D4 team really know what they want the game to be. It took D3 25+ seasons to finally feel good. Let’s hope that’s not the case for D4…
I will play, and enjoy both games. Such as I have enjoyed LE launch. People should just stop being so polarised on everything. Have your fun, let others have theirs, no need to be judgemental if I like something more. This is highly subjective, can change over time. Diablo 4 has its own problems, PoE 2 might have its own, and it's totally ok. Stay on the positive note guys.
Negatively sells and people like to read negative comments. That’s all it is.
@@joeychizzel Understand that, but I made my comment for reasonable people, like you for example, and not just clickbait eaters, or surface emotion consumers :)
Dude I’ve played D4 every season. I’ve spent a decent about of money on it as well. Hate aside, you can still be objective. And objectively the game is just rough. They kinda turned it into D3 with more things to do and whether it was intentional or not? I’m not sure.
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@@MrxLethal I think it was a natural turn, after D2 playerbase left unsatisfied with game paste, and mechanics. The only audience left is most of D3 fanbase, and newcomers now.
I'm already passed 30 and I really seen it all... Played with all... for example high level of D2, and yes there was always dupe and lot of bugs. We accepted it, without complaining. We enjoyed the way it was. No matter D2, WoW, POE no game will be satisfaction for lot of players. I already learned to value my time and not invest it for endless content game like POE and WoW (I did it, this is how I learned it.). Belive me, sometimes less content is more. D4 is far from perfect, but they are really listening you, whatever you want...arnory, class balance, you name it. No point to blame it, you have the chance to tell them how would you like to play it. The problem is not in the games, it is in your endless dissatisfaction.
So, if you don't have thousands of hours to spend on a game or if you want to play other games, it's better to stay on Diablo4, right?
I am not sarcastic, this is genuine question because the game looks incredible but intimidating. I only want to spend 2-3 weeks and return after some months, I like this formula.
Then stay with d4 it's Made for brainless noobs anyway
If you don’t have time poe is still fine to play, the insane endgame gives you lots of options but litterally no one has time to do all of it.
The difference is that while d4 has one endgame grind Poe has 20 different ones, it just gives you choice.
If you can only play a little bit each week you just focus on one mechanic and progress that.
Only thing i would say is if you want to play solo self found you need more time as you can’t trade for currencies behind mechanics.
But on trade league you can sell your mechanics currency and buy the mechanics you don’t play from others.
GGG balance it so that no mechanic is mandatory and the rewards are fairly even across the board.
People get overwhelmed because they try to do everything at once but if you just focus on one mechanic at a time you will be fine.
I have played like 5 leagues and still haven’t done like 60% of the mechanics but I still have a strong character every league playing different mechanicsz
The only mandatory time sink is the campaign but that’s fun and part of any arpg. Once you get good you can rush through it
sad thing is diablo 4 could of been so much more if they added real runewords and not this dumbed down version of it on top of not having nowhere near a great endgame a year in. poe 2 early access already has a better end game and more classes on top of way more builds. blizzard needs to take notes on how unique the skills are in poe 2 and poe1 and do they own thing with it.
What has always been shocking to me is Blizz’s insistence on completely moving away from the gameplay, systems, itemization, and concepts that made D2 the GOAT. They literally tossed everything Brevik and Schaeffer did into the trash and have had to rediscover how to make an inferior ARPG using the Diablo name twice now. For example, how the hell does D4 not have a robust crafting system by now? All they had to do was refine and build upon D2 and instead they’ve been spinning their wheels for two decades
And then repeat for D3toD4.
Yall like greater rifts? Well, we took em out. Yall hate bounties? Well, we made something identical to them that you have to grind til next update😂
They shouldn't be worried. People that already don't enjoy POE aren't going to enjoy POE2. It's still basically the same game. D4 has a massive playebase compared to Path. POE2 will get a big bump in early Dec, and then most people will say "oh yea, this is why I dont play POE". Then it'll go back to being a niche game for the hard-core players. Nothing wrong with that either.
Working dad here with wife and kids. I've farmed a mageblood a number of times playing around 20-25 hours a week. The bias is real.
Someone tell Ferguson when the “diablolike” stuff was created he was not there, and ask him why is not that stuff on his game?
I've played POE 1 a few years ago and it was stressful. I like diablo 4 because it was simple. While I do like the look of POE 2, I am afraid it might be too complicated like POE 1. At the same time, I do agree D4 is starting to feel grindy and boring with the lack of end-game content.
I just think there's a point of clarification about this idea of "fighting with the D4 player base". Nobody is upset with D4 players.
BLIZZARD, and Activision, have spent a decade plus causing negative headline after negative headline, abusing their employees, and ruining one after another cherished gaming franchise through ENTIRELY THEIR OWN DECISIONS. They've become short hand for terrible gaming industry decisions, malfeasance, and naked short sighted greed. They're a trash pile.
People don't want to dunk on D4 players. They want to dunk on Blizz. 🤷♂️
I think this is what a lot people seem to misunderstand, when people say stuff like 'D4 bad', they're not going after the people playing D4 but rather Blizzard for completely ruining a beloved franchise. D3 was already a lost cause but people had high hopes for D4, and I can hardly recall the last time a game failed to live up to expectations to this degree and that isn't the fault of the players, but rather Blizzard themselves.
Think it's just shown that the only Blizzard that could actually create ARPG's were Blizzard North/Condor Studios which got shut down by Blizzard's parent company Vivendi back in 2005.
@@ArcticunI would say different… I have seen plenty of PoE players being hella toxic in D4 streamers chat. Calling names, telling them that they are dumb for playing a game. It actually made me not want to play POE a lot of the times… the tribalism is so stupid
@@deadjosh13 ya this dude is incredibly off base, poe players have been shitting on diablo players on every diablo video since launch.
As someone who hasn't played any Diablo or POE games i do think they should have a more specific genre name than just ARPG, as I feel ARPG can also refer to any RPG with a heavy focus on combat such as souls games, id also like to mention that even before diablo the term ARPG existed and was used to describe basically any RPG that wasnt turn based, also the name doesn't have to be diablolike it could be a combo of both game names akin to Metroidvania
Console wars, companies war, and then fanboys war. I don’t like it at all. As an older gamer I own all consoles and have a high end PC. I play everything. I’ve played all Diablo games and I’ve played POE. I play Diablo because it fits my play style. POE is awesome I just choose to play Diablo more. I will give POE2 a try. What Blizzard needs to do is listen to its players. As a live service game what’s the problem. Give us what we’ve been asking for. How come at this stage we get excited for an Armory?! How come there’s people who still haven’t gotten an Uber Unique? I’m glad POE is coming because it seems a drop off from its installed base, maybe is what Diablo 4 needs.
Preach!
Diablo 4 team has been able to sit back and not improve the game with a sense of urgency because there was no competition to lose players to. Now, hopefully we’ll see them improve the game faster 👍
@ you’re right. Now I’m definitely going to play because they’ve made a lot of money off of players not to listen to them.
They don't also starting purposefully season 9 ladder in Diablo 2 the same date as Poe2 early access launch.
POE and D4 have completely different audiences. POE is for no-lifer farmers that can play for 1000 hours and develop complex builds. D4 is for Noobs/Advance players who like to relax, blow up some monsters and move on. In D4 i managed to do pit 150 like Rob, in POE id never achieve as much as pro players and players dont like that
exactly, this whole niche of gaming is weird to me because im mainly a counter strike player. ive never played wow or any other mmo, d4 was my first arpg. it just seems so incredibly neckbeardy, poe fans talking about how you can play thousands of hours and how much you have to use your brain etc. poe doesnt require any additional intelligence or mental elasticity, it requires a lot of research and learning. the idea that that is inherently better is wild to me. i like d4 because it looks good, plays good on a controller, and i can just chill and smoke bowls while hanging out with friends. i can also farm it with a podcast on in the background if i have nothing to do during the day etc. if i wanna sit at my desk and try hard at something ill play cs2, an actual competitive game that actually takes a lot of brain power, im not gonna sit at my desk for 10 hours a day to play a PVE horde killing game lol, who the fuck does that? and why do they think theyre better than the rest of the world?
POE2 looks absolutely stunning. The graphics are incredible now. The game looks so rich with depth and complexity but has been simplified and refined. I love how you can respec with gold and the skill gem system is vastly improved. I hated the colored link system in POE1. The classes are incredibly diverse and I'm struggling on which one to play first, but leaning towards minions.
I enjoy Diablo but I think the POE 2 will reign supreme in so many ways.
I agree. Its like elementary school vs university. You dont want to send your children to uni straigh away but learn the basics but you will overgrown those quite fast and there is more in the world.
Over half a million views, and less than 700 likes. This has to be one of the least popular opinions of all time.
Because people nowadays only knows how to hate. They cant have a constructive conversation about things anymore.
@deadjosh13 Hate? Did you even watched the video? its Your D4 Rod who cant contain his jelously and wanted his shtty D4 game recognition to make poe "diablo-like" even his not even part of the legacy Blizzard north has originality established. Rod is cying in jelousy and ur here worried about ur job as Blizzards dog
GGG developers themselves are Diablo 2 fans. Last Exilecon they had Diablo 1 & 2 developers as Guests of Honor in a Q&A panel. Chris Wilson was also openly critical of Diablo:Immortal. Why PoE players and developers say "D4 bad" does not come from a place of smugness but from a place of disappointment. Modern Blizzard simply cannot make good Diablo games anymore, they're far more focused into gouging out more money from susceptible casual players than actually delivering good products.
Its a joy to see POE2 out at last. Only one thing will make this better, you making content for it :)
There has to be good competition in order for better games to be made. Hopefully, Blizzard will see just how much hard work GGG has put into POE 2 and will take notes to make a better diablo games, not to mention POE 2 is a friggen free game.
Base might be free… but it’s not “FREE”. 😂
I'm looking forward to POE 2. But I am also a D4 fan. I want both to succeed and grow to become better for all
Rouge like is named that way because of the specific gameplay loop of Rouge (1985) -- play, die, start over (with new level layout). "Diablo like" doesn't work because the gameplay loop is better defined as ARPG -- real time action, role playing game.
If the naming convention was based off of Diablo 1's skill book system, or Diablo 2's skill tree/itemization, then you might have an argument. But then you run into the issue that most Diablo games wouldn't even be called "Diablo like" they would be "Diablo lite" (Rouge like -> Rouge lite) --lite meaning they have a very surface level connection to the genre but are changed too much.
Competition works only if the leaders of the companies acknowledge the competitors, if they think their product is on another category, there is no competition.
Sadly, nobody saying anything about LE (even devs), competition in 3 it would have been so good as a consumer having the option to choose the best option anytime during the year depending on games cycles.
Yes, of course. It'd be good if both Diablo and POE progress for the best, however, Rob, let's be honest. You can't possibly sleep in two houses at the same exact time. So what I mean is, our time as a gamer is the variable here. Would you spend your time with Diablo or POE? If you choose both, you'll be left behind. You can't possibly stay in the middle of the road, you have to pick which side walks to walk on.
lmao the faces at blizzard would be priceless when they watched PoE 2 video, not one person wouldn't wanna see there faces right now.
You do realize Diablo isn’t Blizzards main source of income right? It’s a portion but not the biggest nor the main income… it’s also no where close as big of a team as their main game.. ie. WoW
You don't think blizzard scheduled the announcement to be at the same time? How about D2R's new season starting on december 6th? (Which was announced AFTER PoE's date reveal) You're copying if you think blizard isn't trying all tricks in the book to divert attention from PoE. It is what blizzard has always done. Back when other MMOs were bigger, they'd try their best to put WoW events or expansions matching the competitor's launches. They done it with GW2, they done it with SWTOR, they done it with FF14.
GGG: "When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master."
Maybe there's some kind of way for you, to cover a bit of PoE 2's content on a live talk with Jonathan Rogers himself ? I'm pretty sure he would gladly have that kind of promotion, with such a big Arpg content creator like the one you're 👍🏼
I thought I heard rumors of D4 being pushed back until Summer 2024. Do you think they should have done that?. We would be on season 1 right now.
If that means they felt D4 may have been hugely unpolished then they had plenty of time to polish it instead of floundering around to find the Eureka moment.
polishing a turd for 1 more year will only result in a polished turd
Based on how the game is today, over 1 year after release, i doubt it would change anything. Just like ^ above said, polishing a turd for x time will not turn it into a candy, just a more shiny turd. This game's core design is just terrible. It was made with the intention of being a simple game that looks pretty and sells as many copies as possible with gimmicks. PoE 2's gameplay trailer showed that each weapon has 20+ active skills, and there are like 10+ weapon types. A huge amount of various support skills to alter them + unique items with unique mechanics + passive skill nodes that do the same. Now compare it to D4's skill tree, 1 class has like a few core skills to make builds around and a few uniques per class, with many of them being straight up useless, lol. It's just a game for toddlers in comparison.
Here is the thing that gets me, Its Rod Ferguson that is saying this... The man didnt work on Diablo 2. He has worked on, and struggled, to take D4 out of a beta stage, bc if you need a year to fix a game its still a beta, and he wants to say that things Should be called "Diablo-like". He has nothing to do with the success of D2. He doesnt acknowledge that POE 2 for an EA, is stunning, and rather than say something constructive like, "we could learn some things", or even Good Job, glad to see another ARPG, he decides to rub salt, and create a scene. They ignore feedback until they have no choice. The world of Diablo is great, amazing lore, but its people like Rod that are sinking the ship. His statement is very unprofessional. The problem now is, D4 can't change, and it won't, because to bring D4 up to where it is considered competitive now, would require a whole new game and honestly, if POE 2 is as accessible for casual players now, Im not sure D4 will be able to recover, unless they massively change their price points, because I know I will NEVER pay again what I paid for D4 for another Diablo game. I feel like I got ripped off the past year. I think as more players see this, and explore the idea of POE, I just dont think Diablo 4 will get away with many more mistakes.
This is the only community besides gacha games that makes more content or argues about the “other” game.
It's crazy that Blizzard had the greatest rpg of all-time: D2 Lod (where the literal PoE Devs met & take inspiration from) - And they refused to expand and improve upon that base. The fact they dropped the itemization from D2 should be an actual crime lol. D4 is okish - I've played it a lot, but I didn't really have much options. Now with fresh start for PoE I'm definitely giving it a try🙏
The problem is that the PoE1 and PoE2 are more Diablo-like than D4.
How many current Blizzard devs were even playing D2? 5% 0%? They have no idea how to create a Diablo-like game anymore.
I like to play D4 from time to time and nothing more because there is no content to keep me for longer.
There is 0 depth in this game starting from SkillTree and finishing with EndGame activities. But hey... We play for FUN, so play what you enjoy most.
7:04 I get why we could give him the benefit of the doubt here, but Blizzard has a history of doing this as a business model.
I remember how WoW reveals, betas und similiar stuff would always match up with their MMO competition "for some reason".
I’m having fun with D4, but the end game can be a repetitive grind. PoE seems to have much more depth, complexity, difficulty, and reward. I can see myself playing PoE for a very long time.
It's not tribalism , I never played Poe in my life. I'm just tired after 18 months of Diablo 4 and keep saying that next time everything will finally be fixed. Its a mid game and they keep screwing things up. The talent tree's are a joke and most of the game is an insult of peoples intellgence like where a bunch of 5 year olds that only played Pokemon as our only rpg. On top of that Blizzard has been making bad content for a good while now atleast 5-8 years and to top of it of its clearly all about the money now , 90 bucks mounts overpriced armor sets and nothing cool ingame and the list goes on. I would play both if both where really good games but this is simply not the case so i'm moving on , there are allot of good games why play something you don't like?
Maby Poe2 will be bad aswell than ill quit both but so far what they have shown completly nukes Diablo 4 for me and many others have made this same comment. Blizzard had there chance if mcdonald gives you a food poisoning 5 times in a row and you get yelled at every time you wont come back eather. GGG seems to make games for gamers , Blizzard is corporate company run by the wrong people simple as that ;)
I played POE1 and it was great but a bajillion other shiny new games came out and distracted, time to go back check it out.
look Pokemon is a hugely complicated game, its just very accessible, just like poe2 will be :)
I've played D3 for 1500h , D4 for like 500h , D2 for like 2000h and Poe for 4500h . D3,D4 are arcady games for me, D3 in the past I would play for 14h solo,get to Para 700,GR 100 do billions of dmg and then get bored. It's kinda similar in D4 20-30h of play get good gear and stop. Poe1 on the other for 100-300h on a character
For a game it's bad when people stop talking and are indifferent. People say their opinion because they care and want a better game ,they expected better from a billion $ company
Back in the day the Blizzard devs were like the GGG devs , passionate gamers. Now the higher ups are not like that ,their goal is to make money, but you can make money with a good product and respect of your player base. That's why people are buying 480$ supporter packs in Poe
The GGG devs are huge Diablo 2 fans, they played the game a ton and you can see the systems in Poe1. Poe1 is the evolution of D2 and Poe2 is the evolution of Poe1
They have been massively inspired by Diablo said numerous times and had the OG diablo devs at Exile Con
Yes. diablo 2. the the best diablo. nothing from after that.
diablo 2, not the dogwater that followed (d3, d4, and diablo:immoral)
Blizzard North devs to be exact not the D3, D4/current Blizzard
I think the diablo devs just don’t know what they want the game to be. I was hoping they’d slow the game down, not have scaling in the billions and not have legendaries drop like D3. Instead, they basically made D4 exactly like D3 except you have more things to do. They weren’t even creative with new skills. The abilities don’t even change you can just cast more or make them larger. So many character skills are directly ripped from D3.
The problem with Diablo 4 is developers that thinks that fun endgame is a slow paragon grind and that mythic uniques should be easier to get than ancestral legendary items.
And that it's fun that skills like whirlwind is doing zero damage and dust devils are doing all the damage. They should change the skill name from whirlwind to dust devils and remove the spin effect.
The always mess up. The game was getting better and now it's worse than ever.
I would really like to see Blizzard take some inspiration from GGG and PoE1/2. I would like to see D4 take more risks and add mechanics/content for the hardcore and not be so focused on just the casual audience. It already has a very low barrier of entry and anyone can easily complete all content. I play both games at every season launch but D4 rarely sticks for as long as a PoE season, would love to see that change
I don't wish bad things on Diablo 4 but I will say they frustrate me with a lot of their decisions. Seeing what PoE2 will have in early access really has me confused on what Diablo did with all of their development time and what they work on in between seasons. It just doesn't make sense to me (5 classes with less depth on full release vs 6/12 classes with huge depth and crazy endgame on Early access).
the creators of d2 left a long time ago for ggg, that's why poe 2 is brilliant and diablo 4 is so poor. Blizzard is just a name, there are no creative people there
The biggest plroblem with blizzard, is the stupid player base...
D4 at launch, we had à completely different game, and all the streamers and followers COMPLAINED about everything!!!
There was no armory, because it was going à different direction, it was going to be something new. But Blizz decided to listen to all these complaints, and went 360 degrees back, went back to old d3 vibes, and now everyone is complaining that there is nothing new... no evolution, no new ideas.
Its all because of the shit feedback.
Now we have playes comparing a game that does their own thing and evryone is so happy with ggg.. but no one let d4 be its own new thing.
Everyone should have let D4 cook its own new path, its own vision, and we probably wouldnt even be having this discussion today if for 1 year of dev time, Blizz didnt have to redo and rework the entre game. They could have actually worked on improving new things and creat new ideas.but they had to waste all this to scrap D4 and remake D3... because of the loud majority.
And these same people are still complaining...
D4 should have started with an Armory, I mean it's just quality of life that should be expected.
Except D4 before all these changes was EVEN MORE simple. Bro they had no vision that's the entire point, that's why there were so many people complaining about useless items with stupid affixes, not enough chase items, no content to do, most of the skills being useless etc. Game was literally braindead at release, now it's also braindead but at least there's more variety added to it.
You can watch those people during campfire streams and see how they genuinely don't get it.
@@imonyourside8376 we didnt need one, because we were supposed to commit to a build... items were few and far between, so you stick with what you have. Now, with the new loot system and speed running, armory is needed
Even if you enjoyed your time in season 6 it will be stale green moldy bread by December 6th. 2 months till witchcraft powers.
If I remember correctly, Path of Exile's name comes from the runeword Exile in Diablo 2. It has been NO secret POE devs are HEAVILY inspired by the GOAT, d1&d2.
I could see Blizzard trying to do to GGG like what nintendo is doing to Pocket pair and Patenting mechanics to try to eliminate the competition.
Good call highlighting Talkative Tri, he’s a very positive, enthusiastic creator and deserves some accolades
It seems poe is better for content creators since the people chasing their builds won't have the time investment to keep up with them.
I don’t get why they are keeping the stupid inventory system from Diablo 2.
Why does a 2H mace take 8 slots in the inv?
It should be 1 item, 1 slot.
I don’t want to play an Inventory Management Simulator!
How else would they justify monetizing the stash/inventory tabs ?
@@MrGreatnessisme Well, everyone still wants more tabs in D4, so I guess it would be the same in PoE 2.
If you don't like "Diablo-like" games, then I recommend Diablo 4 😂
@@knighthood_gaming I like everything but the inventory system.
Diablo 4 community doesn’t go out of their way to post negative comments on every single PoE video.
Say it again for the ones in the back! 📣 Deserves more likes. 👏
That's because most of the Diablo 4 players are so dumb they can't understand PoE. They have no idea what the negatives even are.
The success of POE 2 will be great for Diablo in the long run as Blizzard will learn and adapt. In the end I think We all win.
Bout time we have a game made by gamers for gamers. We need more competition.
Missed opportunity on the "Jake vs Mike Tyson = PoE2 vs Diablo4" photo to have the ring girl there in the middle as yourself 😂 PoE2 hype! Counting the days here.
I really hope you dive into PoE2 Rob. If so, I will for sure tune in to your stream! I used to watch you a lot for the (short) amount of time I thought D4 was interesting but now I just have no interest in watching D4 content.
What I don‘t understand is that people just can‘t enjoy that what looks like an awesome game is coming out. Something esls has to be going down or „be in trouble“. F***ing drama has to be everywhere.
I do not hate on D4 due to PoE. I am starting to hate D4 due to the devs making wrong decision after wrong decision. I played VoH and did the Paragon 300 grind and I must say, this game has taken a massive step backwards and has several things getting worse. From a person that was involved with the D4 end game beta to now, I have seen how the game has steadily gone downhill since. I hope D4 gets better but I do not see it happening any time soon.
Blizzard's story is the same as so many large corporations. The shareholder and employee bargaining power become more important than the game and its players. It needs to crash so it can be rebuilt from scratch.
"Ship of Theseus" if you replace all the planks in it, is it still the same ship? Blizard is a money-hungry shadow of itself and Diablo 4 is the worst part of the entire series.
GGG owes Blizzard/Diablo nothing. They improved the genre whereas Blizzard completely lost the plot and dont listen to the people playing thier game.
It seems to that if Blizzard was really listening to its player base and actively making the game good instead of supplying bandaids and taking their sweet time on things that are overwhelmingly requested, blizzard wouldn’t be going thru this. Unfortunately their false confidence in thinking they can keep a player base off name alone will bite them in the bum because a lot of players will not return. Way to self sabotage a potentially good game blizzard!
I mean he is not wrong. POE and Diablo may have the same inspirations but they are so far apart it is like you would say Need for Speed and Assetto Corsa is the same Genre just because both have cars in them.
I paid 100 usd for diablo 4, and only played 2 seasons... The campaing was good the cinemastics were great but zero end game... But what killed diablo for me was the yearly expansions which are a forced yearly subscription in disguise... Now if they get new stuff i wont ever come back because of the previus bad experience and also i will need to pay just to test it out??? No thanks they greed is consuming them selves and i like it that way.
I’m genuinely disappointed with Diablo. I’ve been playing since the very beginning, and up until now, it feels like we’re constantly being disappointed. I purchased the expansion, but I feel like I squandered my money. The story is decent, but the character development is abysmal. The sorcerer, once the best class, has plummeted in value, and they’re only making it worse. The game has lost its ability to fulfill the power fantasy and instead weakens us so they can gradually introduce us to new content and minor improvements.