Victorian Iron Horse Round Up At The Cumbres & Toltec Railroad
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- August 21st and 22nd 2021 A spectacular event happened at the Cumbres and Toltec railroad. Victorian era locomotives were run as a once in a lifetime event. Watching these locomotives run was a spectacular sight and we hope you enjoy the video.
Seeing 2 wood burning 1875 engines double heading, pulling a train of early coaches, is a real treat, not to be duplicated anytime soon. Thanks so much for the time you put in to make the video.
They need to be converted to oil.
@@zebrashark23 No they don't.
@@zebrashark23 No they don't, what's with the US wanting to seemingly convert every single remaining locomotive to oil? Europe doesn't have that problem, there are not enough steam trains left in the US for coal to make any impact on the environement, and wood is CO2 neutral anyway, fire risk is managable as well.
@@slome815 1: The US is vast, and coal is becoming harder and harder to source. More and more now the mines that make good steam coal are far from steam operations, massively increasing the cost of the fuel.
2: Oil is cheap
3: The risk from fires brings the threat of huge insurance costs and litigation and pressure from the public sector. That's the reason why the D&S is going to oil burning after a fire two years ago, that's how they're managing the fire risk.
@@TheSonic10160 I was being sarcastic. I'm very opposed to converting coal/wood burners to oil.
Full credit to all those skilled in keeping these beautiful locos running........
Looks like something straight out of a John Wayne or Clint Eastwood western. Amazing footage!
They would be great in a modern Western set in the early 1870's
It looks just like the old photos of the Old West era. Aslo, Eureka is beautifuly preserved.
This has to be simply the most beautiful railroad video I have ever seen. Died and gone to heaven? Just glorious. Thank you, all of you, very much!
It is great to see a Sleeping Car running in Colorado for the first time in more that a century!
Wonderful! Especially love the wood burners doing their thing.
Real locomotives with a hart beat Thanks
What a tremendous treat! I feel like I was transported back in time watching this. Just fantastic!
Beautiful both the wood burners and the coal burners side by side brothers in arms just heard about the Reno steam locomotive has been saved and is going to be restored
These are beauties!!! Thanks for the capture!
Glad you like them!
love seeing all of them they have so much historey.
Beautiful! I hope C&T keeps doing events like this!
A spectacular video of these great steam locomotives 🎥🙏🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂👍👍👍💖
I wish to thank you for sharing this awesome Railroad video with me .
Thank you for taking the time to watch it. Your support is always appreciated!
Seeing two wood and two coal burners operating the same day and on the same line is epic
Without doubt its a special sight.
So many westerns filmed on these tracks. Reminds me of the old cowboy movies.
Awesome video, enjoyed watching 👍👍👍
We rode the Cumbres & Toltec RR back in August of 1999. But I thought it was out of Chama, NM? We sat in an open car with bench seats. Good thing we brought our jackets as it got real "cool" up on the mountains.This is a fantastic video!
Cheers from Syracuse, NY! Bob
Thats awesome. It may have been from Chama because there is a option to ride from Antinito or Chama. Certainly is a great ride
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions Thanks!
Very nice event.
I'd sure love to see that in person but I was fortunate to see some narrow gauge action st another narrow gauge tourist line
I love these sounds !
Wow, video not at all long enough. Stunning stuff in every way. Thanks, Thailand Paul, Agent D&RG Ry
Thank you!!
Thank you for your support!
Great video! Thanks for posting!
The curve looks like the old Petticoat Junction curve from the TV series.
i had the very same thought when i saw it.
How I wish I was there.
No locomotive could ever beat the American 440 in Beauty
Looks like a great day!!
hi.greetings from england.great video.Eureka looks wonderful,jts great to see a wild west loco again, only used to see them in films,John Wayne and Randolph Scott would be most impressed with these locos.pity we do not have them here in england, i think the General is also a preserved loco,
Man, 7:15 is the money shot. Beautiful work.
Fantastic.
Nice iron.
Wow! What is number 20 doing here? I never heard of her being taken there! That’s so cool!
20 will be doing a few photo charters at the cumbres and Toltec we will be going down to film it on Labor Day
those are some gorgeous gals
They sure are
god I wish I was there.
Incredible! I really missed out.
Wow, that is epic! Well done!
Thank you!
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions the two wood burning steam locomotives look like they where the stars of the event
@@eliotreader8220 they were definitely the stars on the day we went
I am so jealous that I didn't make it. Cuz I know damn well that lineup isn't happening again
Awesome Video
The Victorian era locomotives are replicas?
No they are original
How did they sync the engines so that one wasnt pushing, or pulling the other?
Skilled engineers
They don't. It's never exact. It's close, so that they don't constantly slip. But otherwise it's impossible.
I'm not familiar with the Glenbrook and 425. Where did they come from?
Glenbrook is from is from the Nevada state railway Museum. 425 is locomotive #315 just painted in a different scheme. #315 (425) is owned by the durango and Silverton historical society
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions Thanks for that info. The Eureka and Glenbrook look so fine together. Time travel seeing that train for sure. Wish my wife had lived long enough to see them as she was really in to trains of that period.
@@rogerhuber3133 they certainly have a charm to them
I know these locomotives are the real thing but they remind me of my days working for Six Flags St. Louis in the 1990s, as I got trained to drive their replica loco as a back up engineer from time to time that was made to look like on of these old 1870s locos.
Did they need to double head those two steam locos, or was it that they had two of them on hand, so they ran both of them? I have no clue as to the horsepower of one of those old steam locos.
They didn’t have to double head the locomotives they just did it for dramatic effect. Ended up making some really cool sights
The locos come from two different owners. Eureka comes from Las Vegas from a private owner and the Glenbrook is from the Nevada State Railroad Museum in Carson City. Only recently was the Glenbrook returned to operation in 2015
There's a game railroads online for the PC that has eureka in it lol
Hey where is the green coach at the end from? Is it C&T’s rolling stock or is it on loan?
It is c&t’s
Though I want to know how they did the double heading, I still feel like the Eureka & Palisade could have pulled that train on her own.
In all honesty with the grade coming out of Antonio, I doubt it. That being said even if it could they wanted to double head them because it looked cool
So how do two, independently operated, steam locomotives work together without constantly having one push, or pull, the other?
They just had 2 experienced engineers run them
Are those two wood burners modern replicas or are they really from the 19Th century?
They are completely original
Not only are they original but they are less than 15 separated in Serial numbers from Baldwin locomotive works. They were both built in the factory at the same time in the early 1870s
Nice. I assume there range was less due to them being wood fired??
Not really, surprisingly the amount of water was the bigger problem limiting the range of these locomotives.
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions
That's true also. And I wonder if the water was hard. Meaning it had lots of deposits which reduced the locomotives steaming capacity
I am surprised that neither the Union Pacific railroad or the museums with the general or Texas got in on this it would be a good pr boost for everyone involved but I could understand the up because 4014 is still on tour but the rest I am surprised by because there is usually the general or Texas or both at these types of events
the issue is all of these are narrow gauge locos not standard gauge
He's correct. Also i dont think either engine runs anymore. The last Texas restoration was for display.
Even the William Mason hasn't run in years, and it was fully repainted just for display.
En el mismo ancho de vía del Ferrocarril de Soller
Are these replicar locos or original?
They are original.
Some pretty clean stacks for wood burners, compared to the two coal burners. Hats off to those firemen…
I wish they would convert them to oil already. It's not historically accurate, but it's the right thing to do. Coal is antiquated and so is wood given the drought conditions going on.
@@zebrashark23 why though it wouldn't have the wow factor if they were converted the riders wouldn't get to watch them load coal and water
@@farmallskittle I know. I was being sarcastic.
I would expect wood fired locomotives to burn cleaner than coal . It is a cleaner fuel, less carbons, quicker burning. " The coal Clerk"
@@zebrashark23 Considering Glenbrook normally runs on a circle track that is less than a mile wide in Carson city and is specifically restored to be as it looked in 1870s
Neither Locomotive is from this Railroad they are only visiting neither owner is even slightly interested in converting to Oil
Why only 3 coaches if there double heading?
because they only have three coaches specific to that era restored at the moment
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions Oh ok, that's makes alot more sense now. Thank you.
Also engine #425. Is that just engine #315 re-numbered for the occasion?
@@daskriegsman7013 yes, it is. 315 was backdated to its original Denver & Rio Grande number and livery just for this event.
@@daskriegsman7013 yes
8:48 suena como la locomotora Escatrón del Ferrocarril Minero Andorra Escatrón
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Enjoy train video!
Were these engines oil fired?
I know that the Eureka is woodfired!
the only oil fired one is the 489
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions when did they convert her to oil fired?
@@rudycarlson8245 a few months ago, The Durango and Silverton plans on converting all their locomotives to oil and I think at some point the Cumbres and Toltec will convert all of their daily locomotives to oil
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions is oil cheaper?
Yippee
I find it odd that Americans use the term 'Victorian'.