An Insider's View: Market Makers' Secret to Successful Trading

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    Shelly Natenburg has been working in options for over 3 decades. His insights on market structure and derivatives trading give a clear and concise view on how to make a trade and manage risk on million-dollar scales, or for retail traders.
    00:00 3 Basic Questions Market Makers Ask
    01:25 What Does a Marketplace Think a Contract is Worth?
    02:20 What Do I Think a Contract is Worth?
    07:00 Making a Profit on a Trade
    07:21 Market Maker Example for Options Trader
    11:00 Calculating Greeks on a Trade
    13:55 Analyzing Risk like a Market Maker
    15:25 Why Selling Options Helps Reduce Risk
    18:05 What Else Can Go Wrong?
    21:45 Understanding Standard Distribution
    28:22 The Market Maker's Secret for Success
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 56

  • @mouadbenaicha4378
    @mouadbenaicha4378 11 місяців тому +7

    Beneficial presentation. Would love to see more of these seminars recorded. Thank you, tasty!

  • @fas609
    @fas609 10 місяців тому +4

    read his book probably 100 times+ in the last 25yrs, still need it on a daily basis ...

  • @maxmachts135
    @maxmachts135 11 місяців тому +3

    very clear presentation! thank you

  • @FahadAlHoymany
    @FahadAlHoymany 11 місяців тому +1

    That was a fantastic video!
    Relevant and based on real life market making. Thanks.

  • @TradeItUntilYouMakeit
    @TradeItUntilYouMakeit 11 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful and love the separation and realization of theoretical and realized moves within the distribution curve. I personally just got wiped out in the most recent run up in the nasdaq 2023 rally

  • @loreall.2461
    @loreall.2461 11 місяців тому +10

    This is an excellent video on understanding some of the market maker’s motivations. Especially if you’re trading the same stock on a daily basis. When you can combine time and sales of order flow of stocks and watch option time and sales, it adds more depth to what is occurring in a market. I’ve recently observed “contingent” orders in my Fidelity time and sales tab that do not show reflect on my charts volume and this has also provided another level of previously unknown data. It begins to formulate a picture of larger market participant activity.

    • @brianpolley7084
      @brianpolley7084 11 місяців тому +1

      Interesting. Going to look into that tab.

  • @quantum7401
    @quantum7401 11 місяців тому +4

    I like this guy. Bring on part-two.

  • @brianpolley7084
    @brianpolley7084 11 місяців тому +21

    Watching a few more times because one of many moments that I realize how much I don't really understand......in theory or in practice. To quote one of my young sons, "It's my forte but I'm just not very good at it" 😂

    • @loreall.2461
      @loreall.2461 11 місяців тому +3

      You will get there if you keep at it. Understanding who all the participants are, how the positions are set up, and then how those participants protect themselves is what is going on here. I’ve traded daily nearly four years straight now and studied earnestly and every day with actual hands-on experience and application have I persevered. There have been losses, but there are gains through education. You will get there with steadfastness. 😀

    • @ganjacron123
      @ganjacron123 11 місяців тому

      Oh good it was not just me then

    • @patrickassis8095
      @patrickassis8095 6 місяців тому

      Watch it as many times as you can. It’s gold. If you understand at least 50% of the content…

  • @coolaxolotl901
    @coolaxolotl901 10 місяців тому +147

    I’m compiling and picking stocks that I’d love to hold on to for a few years before retirement, do you think these stocks would do better over the years? I’d love to retire with at least $2million savings. Now you gotta rely on a pretty good diversification if you must stay green. Currently up 31% and being cautious. Still better deal than letting it sit in savings or checking earning near 5% interest

    • @MrsIsabella-mf4iw
      @MrsIsabella-mf4iw 10 місяців тому

      merely looked him up on Google and was highly impressed by his credentials; I got in touch with him because I need all the help I can get.

    • @Arch.ChrisRichchardson
      @Arch.ChrisRichchardson 10 місяців тому

      Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on him before scheduling a phone call with him. he seems proficient considering his resume.

    • @maryamismailhamdanhamdan2559
      @maryamismailhamdanhamdan2559 10 місяців тому

      An obvious way to lnvest for a recession is to buy shares in businesses that are likely to experience steady demand even in a downturn. Typically, those are consumer staples, utilities, and healthcare companies, but off course such decisions cannot be made by an average Joe, a financial advisr is important in making this decisions

    • @HTheodore-sc4yz
      @HTheodore-sc4yz 10 місяців тому

      I wholeheartedly concur, i have thought of engaging with an lnvestment coach,

    • @lordwickkhutjomabotja3202
      @lordwickkhutjomabotja3202 Місяць тому

      😊😅

  • @WiCapitalco
    @WiCapitalco 11 місяців тому +1

    Great quality content as always

  • @personkid21
    @personkid21 11 місяців тому

    This is a PURE treasure indeed!!!

  • @BazookaJoe1964
    @BazookaJoe1964 11 місяців тому +2

    Great job in simplistically breaking down how markets work. This should be the very first video every new trader should watch. I never got this in my college finance or economic classes that were so behind the curve of the real world.

  • @ismaelersoz
    @ismaelersoz 11 місяців тому +3

    this is gem

  • @DC_J
    @DC_J 11 місяців тому +1

    Always great content by guys and gals that actually did it. Where else you getting that but tastylive

  • @davidpearce4838
    @davidpearce4838 11 місяців тому +2

    This was excellent. Very helpful.

  • @Bobylly
    @Bobylly 2 місяці тому

    Superb :)

  • @3for5spotshooter
    @3for5spotshooter 11 місяців тому

    I have his book. Interesting read. Jelly rolls.

  • @yusufaslan2373
    @yusufaslan2373 10 місяців тому

    Nice video

  • @helengoetz336
    @helengoetz336 10 місяців тому

    How do you sell digital assets

  • @BoxerDogs
    @BoxerDogs 2 місяці тому

    Dealers/Market makers may trade for their own account as principal traders.
    Does this mean profiting off of the bid/ask spread, or does this mean buying and holding, then selling later?

  • @user-gw9mh4zf2b
    @user-gw9mh4zf2b 11 місяців тому +4

    Shelly natenberg? Is he the guy who wrote the famous options 101 the green book? I read the book like 10 times or more...

    • @dzelpwr
      @dzelpwr 11 місяців тому

      It is indeed.

    • @3for5spotshooter
      @3for5spotshooter 11 місяців тому +1

      Yup Options Probability and Pricing Strategies. Deep dive.

    • @JanCRT
      @JanCRT Місяць тому

      I got the book, he’s the one

  • @willbutplural
    @willbutplural 3 місяці тому +1

    18:40

  • @edwinbab3205
    @edwinbab3205 10 місяців тому

    Can one do what market makers do and make profits

  • @ChaplainDaveSparks
    @ChaplainDaveSparks 11 місяців тому

    Loved your video. It was very informative. First of all, when you rattled off _”the Greeks”_ I said to myself, _”What an awesome sounding fraternity/sorority!”_
    I also remember an online instructor touting the _”edge”_ involved in selling *credit spreads,* likening the seller to _”the house”_ as in a casino. Then I got cynical and decided that it was *the market maker* who was *REALLY* _”the house”!_

  • @Siyasetcivefutbolcu
    @Siyasetcivefutbolcu 10 місяців тому

    Global stocks headed for their biggest weekly decline in more than three months. European shares fluctuated, with a record 36% drop in Siemens Energy AG’s shares after a profit warning dragging on the broader market. US index futures fell. According to chief economist at UBS Global Wealth Management “Financial markets have had one of those switches in the narrative that happen occasionally, and are starting to worry about higher interest rates driving recessions,” I'm still at a crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $300k stock portfolio, what’s the best way to take advantage of the market?

  • @Pengkui
    @Pengkui 2 місяці тому

    Are MMs typically long or short Gamma?

    • @paradiselosing
      @paradiselosing 23 дні тому

      They do not care about gamma. Every fund is different. You shouldn't care. Delta, Theta, and maybe Vega are only ones worth your time. Hence why the Dr. only talked mainly about delta in the video.

  • @gavnonadoroge3092
    @gavnonadoroge3092 11 місяців тому

    he said a lot, but how does that help traders?

  • @minecraftprosu7261
    @minecraftprosu7261 10 місяців тому

    Very true, people downplay advisors role, until burnt by their mistakes. I remember just after my layoff early 2020 amidst covid outbreak, I needed to stay afloat, hence researched for license advisors. Thankfully, I came across someone of practical knowledge, and decades of experience, my stagnant reserve of $225K has yielded nearly $1m after subsequent investments so far

  • @polok890
    @polok890 3 місяці тому

    Stock delta hedge isn't gonna protect you against next day gap up downs

  • @cigdemsakall3087
    @cigdemsakall3087 10 місяців тому

    With markets tumbling, inflation soaring, the Fed imposing large interest-rate hike, while treasury yields are rising rapidly-which means more red ink for portfolios this quarter. How can I profit from the current volatile market, I'm still at a crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $125k bond/stocck portfolio

  • @aaronservice86
    @aaronservice86 8 місяців тому

    We should just get rid of market-makers there's no reason to have a middleman involved

  • @WickCityLLC
    @WickCityLLC 11 місяців тому

    Or a synagogue 🤣

  • @emininfilmdunyas6486
    @emininfilmdunyas6486 10 місяців тому

    Given the current economic difficulties that the country is experiencing in 2023, how can we enhance our earnings during this period of adjustment? I cannot let my $680k savings vanish after putting in so much effort to accumulate them.

  • @QuicK-SiLver
    @QuicK-SiLver 10 місяців тому +1

    Dude is Redundant- this is a tiktok day & age. 10 to 15 min vids max - 30 min way too much -Old peeps are so out of touch nowadays

    • @Rpere387
      @Rpere387 9 місяців тому +1

      It’s more of a lecture style vid. If you don’t like it don’t watch.

    • @QuicK-SiLver
      @QuicK-SiLver 9 місяців тому

      @@Rpere387 i didn't watch. I take it you are old ? 😄

    • @neilgmail
      @neilgmail 8 місяців тому +3

      Your proud commitment to modern ignorance and short-attention span is impressive! (Yes,I'm old, thanks, LOL.) @@QuicK-SiLver

  • @defiwithbeef
    @defiwithbeef 11 місяців тому

    This is a fantastic video. Great to have insight from a market maker.
    Combine this knowledge with a decentralised environment like @foxifytrade and you have a match made in heaven... After all, doesn't matter if you're the best trader in the world, if the platform you use becomes insolvent due to centralised mismanagement, it's all for nothing.
    When retail users can be market makers in a decentralised, permissionless environment, there's an opportunity of a lifetime right there...

  • @Furkan-pw9kv
    @Furkan-pw9kv 10 місяців тому

    Nice video

  • @bogachankeles9931
    @bogachankeles9931 10 місяців тому

    I’m compiling and picking stocks that I’d love to hold on to for a few years before retirement, do you think these stocks would do better over the years? I’d love to retire with at least $2million savings. Now you gotta rely on a pretty good diversification if you must stay green. Currently up 31% and being cautious. Still better deal than letting it sit in savings or checking earning near 5% interest

  • @burcukoc-yk4cq
    @burcukoc-yk4cq 10 місяців тому

    Nice video

  • @haydayplay8275
    @haydayplay8275 10 місяців тому

    Nice video