The VSL sounds are just incredible and highly customizable. Like you, I never really used them but now they are ALL loaded in my template to complement everything else I have.
I just stumbled onto your page yesterday. Immediate follow. Your advice and commentary is truly helpful, practical, and relevant! My new fave page. Thank you!
VEP7 changed my workflow and similarly to you, I have recently been appreciating Epic Orchestra 2.0 as well ! I have other libraries of course but it definitely has its place in the collection. I agree that it makes an excellent first library for a beginner too. I also love the 'preserve' feature of VEP7 which saves CPU cycles on plugins even when using on only one computer - it's a fantastic feature. Great video Anne-Kathrin, beautifully explained :)
Thanks for another great video, Ann-Kathrin ! (In the description you kept the first line of your previous video's description, you might want to change that.)
Hello Anne, great video and thank you for taking the time to make it. I follow your work closely. Your so talented. I can only assume your parents are VERY proud of you. So thank you from people like me that don't know some of the ins and outs of certain apps. What camera do you use to film yourself. The video quality and sound quality are superb! Wishing you the best from Missouri!
Thank you for posting this! I own VEPRO7 and have never downloaded the free library, now I will. Also, your composition touched my hear, I just love it.
The folders are great. I was on v5 for soooo long and finally upgraded to VEPro 7 and love it. FYI pro tools has folder tracks in the mixer too which is so cool, last I checked Cubase didn't (in the mixer). Great video! 👍👍
Thank you Anne for the deep drive on this product. I have been on edge whether to purchase it or not? Most of my libraries are from VSL. Excellent video, your video was spot on answering what I could not find answers for. I appreciate you effort.
Schöner Beitrag! Ich hab VEP 7 auch grade wieder rausgeholt, da ich nun mit der DAW auf Mac Studio umsteige und der Windows PC als Remote Soundbox im Einsatz bleibt. Die ganze VSL Software ist einfach top, da können sich andere gerne eine Scheibe abschneiden. Sehr nützlich auch MIR Pro und vor allem mein geliebter Bösendorfer Imperial ❤
thank you so much Dern for this video. It is so helpful and i wish to see more video on how you set up Synchron Player template on your mock up . I love it so. so muchhh
Good morning from Montreal (Canada) Anne-Kathrin. Thank you so much for sharing your time and knowledge with us. After watching your presentation, I was considering the purchase of VEP 7 and was hoping that you in some way might benefit from that. Have a safe & pleasant Monday. Peter
I have no affiliate links or any way I’d profit from this. I’m glad you want to buy the program though! VSL is a great company to buy from. Thank you for thinking of me though!
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Thank you for getting back to me. I completed the purchase yesterday and made sure to mention that I was referred by you (this video). I hope that was alright. Have a great day.
this is why all these companies fail vs Spitfire Audio, they have NO CLUE of Marketing and how to promote their stuff. The same problem with Steinberg and Cubase. M ost People have no Idea, whats behind Cubase and how it can assist your composing and workflow. I was into Vepro 7 at day one and knew how good Epic 2.0 is....but now we are soon 2 years laters... still no one knows what the purpose of VePro is... Finally Anne-Kathrin made the Video to explain it. This is for Anne -Kathrin: Das hast du großartig gemacht, man merkt dir deine Begeisterung an, und die ist echt. Ich empfehle alle deine Videos den Cubase Nutzen in meinem Cubase Nation Discord. Danke für alles, und mach weiter so! Liebe Grüße aus Heidelberg!
Anne: I wrote a Demo... Anne, 3:17 Minutes later: Completely nails it with a 100$ Plugin, showing how amazing a cheap plugin can sound like, if you know your craft. Amazing Video as always! Thanks for uploading :)
Thank you for the kind words! I'm actually planning on making a video where I only use really old or really simple libraries just to show how much can be achieved with proper orchestration and mixing skills. That should really be the takeaway of my channel: "You probably already have everything you need and don't need ANOTHER library..." ;-)
Your presentations are very well done and much appreciated. I have VEP 7 and am currently using it. The one thing I have never been crystal clear on is the best audio routing out of VEP into the DAW. I am curious how you are routing each of your audio outs from VEP into your DAW. Is this something you have already covered or is it something you could cover more in another presentation? Thanks again for your great work!
Hello again Anne, Ok, you convinced me to purchase VEP7 Pro. I am a Studio One user and it seems to play nice with it? You made the remark about folder tracks with VEP. So that means with one instrument, such as Synchron Strings 1, I can place the different articulations, offered by that instrument, in one track? Thank you once more for all your work you put forth through your videos. I really enjoy the knowledge you share so kindly.
I tend to use Expression maps with attributes. No Notes keyswitches at the bottom. You can cut notes whereever you like and it should play fine. It's a bit harder to balance patches though.
I couldn’t agree with you more. The Epic orchestra is a hidden, often overlooked little gem! Like you say, great as a scetching tool or as a starter library. I could be wrong but, I believe you can actually buy it separately now so, even if you don’t own Ensemble pro. That would mean that for just above €100, you can get a beautiful library with all you need to get going and explore the joy of orchestral music composition without having to spend a fortune on Libraries like Cinesamples, Spitfire Audio, … and still be able to get a decent result.
It's kind of something you do in both Cubase and VEP at the same time. I like to use a Google Sheet to organize all the patches I intend to use and plan all the routing, then follow that sheet like instructions for setting everything up. 😉👍🏻
I notice you have Violins, Violas, Cellos and Bass per single Kontakt instance, so do you use 4 midi channels per instrument group i.e. legatos, longs, shorts and specials to keep them within 1 port? Love your channel and all the useful information you provide.
The reason I stopped using VEP was the inevitable latency doubling. It is compensated of course while playback, but while playing with my hands it derails my brain's sync, especially in ostinatos. How are you handling this problem? What total latency do you find acceptable personally? Thanks.
Hi AK -- So why would I ever want VEP when I have Eastwest Play Cloud and Kontakt 13 Ultimate -- Cinesamples, Spitfire libraries and others? What would be the advantage? Not too familiar with it... Thanks.... (Started back in 1983 as Ricky Starbuster & got Debut of the Year in Electronic Musician Mag (then Polyphony) & getting back to it again after a very long layoff :-)
So I just built a brand new dedicated windows server to host all my samples for my Mac workstation, and man am I regretting it. I’m finding it so difficult to wrap my head around VEP7 and how its routing works and how to integrate it into Logic X. It’s been real trial of my patience. And I’ve run into so many problems that I wish I had never gotten Vienna Ensemble Pro or built a separate machine for it. And the hilarious part is I did it thinking I needed to do it to save resources on my primary DAW machine, but with the new Apple M3 Studio due out early next year, in all likelihood I could run an absolutely absurdly huge template without making it break a sweat. So basically this has been an exercise in futility. 😢😢😂
Hey, I fall just in the description - lonely beginner with a DAW (Cubase) in my hands and army of libraries with "general Kontakt" in the horizon :) while it is a pure hobby for me, still want to kick off on the right foot. I was looking at this package couple days ago thinking should I take this route, as it seems it could be a pretty steep learning curve to take, especially VEP itself. But I am now rethinking after your video. Still, I will get kontakt, but I may change my choice of first library (currently aiming at Nucleus by Audio Imperia). "Hard times" for newbies with so many pathways :) Anyways, thanks for great videos and sharing glimpse on actual composer life without glamour bs around it (liked library reviews with same practical reality) Cheers!
The irritating thing about Logic not being able to use the older VEP versions is that prior to Logic Pro X, Logic Pro actually had *BUILT IN* VEP style functionality called "Logic Nodes" which let you set up slave machines for your big ram and CPU hungry libraries. And when Apple removed it roughly the same time they started making it harder to expand machines it left a *lot* of people in a position where they had to leave Logic simply because it stopped being able to do what was needed if they couldnt afford taking out a new mortgage on a firebreathing Mac Pro with all the options.. Which is a shame because Logic Pro is a phenomenal daw.
running one pc with libraries on separate SSD. I currently disable tracks in Cubase would VEP 7 make any difference to my work flow? or is VEP 7 more suited to 2 pc setup?
Talking about „avoiding keyswitches“: do you know „Art Director“ by Babylonwaves? I‘m using it with Logic but there‘s a Cubase version, too. It‘s a real game changer!
Usually, what I do when using keyswitches, is create 2 identical midi tracks for each instrument. One track for the notes, and the other dedicated to keyswitches only. That way, I don't accidentally mess with the KS when editing my score track. Yes, that doubles the number of midi tracks, but it's neater.
You are a delightful young composer and your channel is a great resource. It is has joined the handful of go-to resources I reach for when I need sensible reviews by serious people. Three Hemiolas and a Fermata in approbation. This library is very competent. The library states, ' film score ' straight out of the box; very useful. Shall purchase on Monday. A request: If anyone would point me in the direction of a string library that allows for writing in bowing ( on off string and off-sh. bowing ) articulations. Obviously divisi is marvellous for scoring but not right for my current commission. Love imaginative bowing articulations. Using them to great effect requires a sample library to marry up its articulation convention with what's notated on the page. Thus I am looking for as much control over bow articulation that current technology allows/
Hi dear Anne, how's goin'? I would like to know your opinion about the "Metropolis ark" series. Great channel, great content, and great music, congratulations! Subscribed :)
You can simply save the multis in your Kontakt instances (if that's what you're using but other players tend to have similar functions) and then open them inside VEP. Re-route them back to your existing MIDI channels, and then drag and drop any settings over to the new output channels.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Hi Anne , thank you for that :) . I think that can help me to some degree . Unfortunately though I am using Komplete Kontrol and instrument tracks no multis. I'm guessing there is no other way to transfer batches of individual tracks over at once ?
Thank you a lot for this excellent video, Anne-Kathrin! 💙
My pleasure!
My favorite teacher master on youtube.thanks to explain your knowledge n experience.
The VSL sounds are just incredible and highly customizable. Like you, I never really used them but now they are ALL loaded in my template to complement everything else I have.
It's certainly been a discovery!
I just stumbled onto your page yesterday. Immediate follow. Your advice and commentary is truly helpful, practical, and relevant! My new fave page. Thank you!
Thank you so much! That's very sweet of you to say and I'm glad you like my content! :-)
Great video Anne! thank you.. that demo on epic orchestra tho .. oh man 😍. stunning!
Thank you!
Giving everything colors and folders is honestly incredibly relaxing. I could do it for hours.
I totally agree!
Great run through Anne-Kathrin..Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Vielen Dank liebe Anne, ich habe Deine Workshops zufällig entdeckt und bin begeistert. Weiter so, und Grüße aus der alten Welt.
Es freut mich, dass die Videos hilfreich sind! Liebe Grüße aus der Neuen Welt! :-)
VEP7 changed my workflow and similarly to you, I have recently been appreciating Epic Orchestra 2.0 as well ! I have other libraries of course but it definitely has its place in the collection. I agree that it makes an excellent first library for a beginner too. I also love the 'preserve' feature of VEP7 which saves CPU cycles on plugins even when using on only one computer - it's a fantastic feature.
Great video Anne-Kathrin, beautifully explained :)
Thank you!
Thanks for another great video, Ann-Kathrin !
(In the description you kept the first line of your previous video's description, you might want to change that.)
Oops, thank you for letting me know! And thank you for watching! :-)
Hello Anne, great video and thank you for taking the time to make it. I follow your work closely. Your so talented. I can only assume your parents are VERY proud of you. So thank you from people like me that don't know some of the ins and outs of certain apps. What camera do you use to film yourself. The video quality and sound quality are superb! Wishing you the best from Missouri!
Thank you for posting this! I own VEPRO7 and have never downloaded the free library, now I will. Also, your composition touched my hear, I just love it.
Thank you so much! I’m glad you’re trying out the library now as well :-)
Great video Anne-Kathrin, beautifully explained ! Thanks.
Great walk-through of this. I'm still on 6, but after watching this, 7 is in my future.
Certainly worth it!
Thank you for this video. I think upgrading from VEP6 to VEP7 will be my next software purchase (hobbyist budget).
Thanks for watching!
The folders are great. I was on v5 for soooo long and finally upgraded to VEPro 7 and love it. FYI pro tools has folder tracks in the mixer too which is so cool, last I checked Cubase didn't (in the mixer). Great video! 👍👍
Thank you Anne for the deep drive on this product. I have been on edge whether to purchase it or not? Most of my libraries are from VSL. Excellent video, your video was spot on answering what I could not find answers for. I appreciate you effort.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
Schöner Beitrag! Ich hab VEP 7 auch grade wieder rausgeholt, da ich nun mit der DAW auf Mac Studio umsteige und der Windows PC als Remote Soundbox im Einsatz bleibt. Die ganze VSL Software ist einfach top, da können sich andere gerne eine Scheibe abschneiden. Sehr nützlich auch MIR Pro und vor allem mein geliebter Bösendorfer Imperial ❤
thank you so much Dern for this video. It is so helpful and i wish to see more video on how you set up Synchron Player template on your mock up
. I love it so. so muchhh
Good morning from Montreal (Canada) Anne-Kathrin. Thank you so much for sharing your time and knowledge with us. After watching your presentation, I was considering the purchase of VEP 7 and was hoping that you in some way might benefit from that. Have a safe & pleasant Monday. Peter
I have no affiliate links or any way I’d profit from this. I’m glad you want to buy the program though! VSL is a great company to buy from. Thank you for thinking of me though!
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Thank you for getting back to me. I completed the purchase yesterday and made sure to mention that I was referred by you (this video). I hope that was alright. Have a great day.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer I forgot to mention that the folks at VSL had some very nice things to say about you. Keep up the great work. Be safe!
Loving your channel! Could you do a video on your story? I would really like to learn about how you got started and got to where you are now
Sure thing! Thank you for watching!
They should send you an external SSD with the complete VSL BBO set. Hint hint, VSL crew.
Yep, the BBO Series is awesome!
this is why all these companies fail vs Spitfire Audio, they have NO CLUE of Marketing and how to promote their stuff. The same problem with Steinberg and Cubase. M ost People have no Idea, whats behind Cubase and how it can assist your composing and workflow.
I was into Vepro 7 at day one and knew how good Epic 2.0 is....but now we are soon 2 years laters... still no one knows what the purpose of VePro is...
Finally Anne-Kathrin made the Video to explain it. This is for Anne -Kathrin:
Das hast du großartig gemacht, man merkt dir deine Begeisterung an, und die ist echt.
Ich empfehle alle deine Videos den Cubase Nutzen in meinem Cubase Nation Discord.
Danke für alles, und mach weiter so! Liebe Grüße aus Heidelberg!
@@jazzdude7014 I agree. Spitfire Audio is the king of marketing, but it doesn't mean their libraries are better. VSL products are amazing.
Love your channel! And yes! Folders should be the first thing you cover while making DAW! :D
Reaper has always had it!!!
Anne: I wrote a Demo...
Anne, 3:17 Minutes later: Completely nails it with a 100$ Plugin, showing how amazing a cheap plugin can sound like, if you know your craft.
Amazing Video as always! Thanks for uploading :)
Thank you for the kind words! I'm actually planning on making a video where I only use really old or really simple libraries just to show how much can be achieved with proper orchestration and mixing skills. That should really be the takeaway of my channel: "You probably already have everything you need and don't need ANOTHER library..." ;-)
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer This would be amazing! I think we all been through that problem when we started ;)
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Haha I can relate! This is a very good idea. Thanks for your awesome videos.
Your presentations are very well done and much appreciated. I have VEP 7 and am currently using it. The one thing I have never been crystal clear on is the best audio routing out of VEP into the DAW. I am curious how you are routing each of your audio outs from VEP into your DAW. Is this something you have already covered or is it something you could cover more in another presentation? Thanks again for your great work!
Beautiful music! Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Your welcome!
Thank you Anne.
My pleasure!
I've been looking to take the plunge into getting VEPro. This made the decision easy. Time to get the slave machine built and install VEP.
Hello again Anne, Ok, you convinced me to purchase VEP7 Pro. I am a Studio One user and it seems to play nice with it? You made the remark about folder tracks with VEP. So that means with one instrument, such as Synchron Strings 1, I can place the different articulations, offered by that instrument, in one track? Thank you once more for all your work you put forth through your videos. I really enjoy the knowledge you share so kindly.
I neglected the epic orchestra 2.0 for a while but it is a great tool for sketching and laying out the basics of a score.
Same here!
I tend to use Expression maps with attributes. No Notes keyswitches at the bottom. You can cut notes whereever you like and it should play fine. It's a bit harder to balance patches though.
I don't use expression maps for a variety of reasons.
I couldn’t agree with you more. The Epic orchestra is a hidden, often overlooked little gem!
Like you say, great as a scetching tool or as a starter library. I could be wrong but, I believe you can actually buy it separately now so, even if you don’t own Ensemble pro.
That would mean that for just above €100, you can get a beautiful library with all you need to get going and explore the joy of orchestral music composition without having to spend a fortune on Libraries like Cinesamples, Spitfire Audio, … and still be able to get a decent result.
Can you make a new tutorial on VEP 7? Such as setting it up for a project from the beginning.
Folder tracks? Yes please!
Just starting out with Cubase templates and VEP 7. Should I finish my Cubase templates first and then configure VEP 7 or .....?
It's kind of something you do in both Cubase and VEP at the same time. I like to use a Google Sheet to organize all the patches I intend to use and plan all the routing, then follow that sheet like instructions for setting everything up. 😉👍🏻
Your Cubase template will be attached to VEP so you would need to do them at the same time or setting up VEP first.
Danke dir
You are good with your Orchestrations.
I notice you have Violins, Violas, Cellos and Bass per single Kontakt instance, so do you use 4 midi channels per instrument group i.e. legatos, longs, shorts and specials to keep them within 1 port? Love your channel and all the useful information you provide.
That first piano track was amazing! Is that your work?
I too should use the Epic Orchestra 2.0 MUCH MORE...
We all should! :-)
The reason I stopped using VEP was the inevitable latency doubling. It is compensated of course while playback, but while playing with my hands it derails my brain's sync, especially in ostinatos. How are you handling this problem? What total latency do you find acceptable personally? Thanks.
Hi AK -- So why would I ever want VEP when I have Eastwest Play Cloud and Kontakt 13 Ultimate -- Cinesamples, Spitfire libraries and others? What would be the advantage? Not too familiar with it... Thanks.... (Started back in 1983 as Ricky Starbuster & got Debut of the Year in Electronic Musician Mag (then Polyphony) & getting back to it again after a very long layoff :-)
So I just built a brand new dedicated windows server to host all my samples for my Mac workstation, and man am I regretting it. I’m finding it so difficult to wrap my head around VEP7 and how its routing works and how to integrate it into Logic X. It’s been real trial of my patience. And I’ve run into so many problems that I wish I had never gotten Vienna Ensemble Pro or built a separate machine for it. And the hilarious part is I did it thinking I needed to do it to save resources on my primary DAW machine, but with the new Apple M3 Studio due out early next year, in all likelihood I could run an absolutely absurdly huge template without making it break a sweat. So basically this has been an exercise in futility. 😢😢😂
Hey, I fall just in the description - lonely beginner with a DAW (Cubase) in my hands and army of libraries with "general Kontakt" in the horizon :) while it is a pure hobby for me, still want to kick off on the right foot. I was looking at this package couple days ago thinking should I take this route, as it seems it could be a pretty steep learning curve to take, especially VEP itself. But I am now rethinking after your video. Still, I will get kontakt, but I may change my choice of first library (currently aiming at Nucleus by Audio Imperia). "Hard times" for newbies with so many pathways :) Anyways, thanks for great videos and sharing glimpse on actual composer life without glamour bs around it (liked library reviews with same practical reality) Cheers!
The irritating thing about Logic not being able to use the older VEP versions is that prior to Logic Pro X, Logic Pro actually had *BUILT IN* VEP style functionality called "Logic Nodes" which let you set up slave machines for your big ram and CPU hungry libraries. And when Apple removed it roughly the same time they started making it harder to expand machines it left a *lot* of people in a position where they had to leave Logic simply because it stopped being able to do what was needed if they couldnt afford taking out a new mortgage on a firebreathing Mac Pro with all the options.. Which is a shame because Logic Pro is a phenomenal daw.
Would you advise against getting the full Synchron library (around ten grand USD) if you're perpetually poor?
running one pc with libraries on separate SSD. I currently disable tracks in Cubase would VEP 7 make any difference to my work flow? or is VEP 7 more suited to 2 pc setup?
Talking about „avoiding keyswitches“: do you know „Art Director“ by Babylonwaves? I‘m using it with Logic but there‘s a Cubase version, too. It‘s a real game changer!
Sorry, it‘s called „Art Conductor“...🤦♂️
I don't use Expression Maps or else I'd simply make them myself.
Excellent video! Can you speak about VSL instrument? Quality n ease of use etc.?
Thq FR D INFO SIS 💗💢😚👍👍
Usually, what I do when using keyswitches, is create 2 identical midi tracks for each instrument. One track for the notes, and the other dedicated to keyswitches only. That way, I don't accidentally mess with the KS when editing my score track.
Yes, that doubles the number of midi tracks, but it's neater.
You are a delightful young composer and your channel is a great resource. It is has joined the handful of go-to resources I reach for when I need sensible reviews by serious people. Three Hemiolas and a Fermata in approbation. This library is very competent. The library states, ' film score ' straight out of the box; very useful. Shall purchase on Monday. A request: If anyone would point me in the direction of a string library that allows for writing in bowing ( on off string and off-sh. bowing ) articulations. Obviously divisi is marvellous for scoring but not right for my current commission. Love imaginative bowing articulations. Using them to great effect requires a sample library to marry up its articulation convention with what's notated on the page. Thus I am looking for as much control over bow articulation that current technology allows/
Hi dear Anne, how's goin'? I would like to know your opinion about the "Metropolis ark" series. Great channel, great content, and great music, congratulations! Subscribed :)
I spent ages upon ages making my template in cubase is there anyway to transfer anything to VEP without spending decades making it again ? :(
You can simply save the multis in your Kontakt instances (if that's what you're using but other players tend to have similar functions) and then open them inside VEP. Re-route them back to your existing MIDI channels, and then drag and drop any settings over to the new output channels.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Hi Anne , thank you for that :) . I think that can help me to some degree . Unfortunately though I am using Komplete Kontrol and instrument tracks no multis. I'm guessing there is no other way to transfer batches of individual tracks over at once ?
❤
Can we talk about this piano patch???? 👻
Hahaha, it's not mine tho!
U SUPR 💥🎼🎸💢👍
Ein schönes Arragement!