This Viper Setup CHANGES Ascent!

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  • Опубліковано 9 лис 2023
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  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 7 місяців тому +360

    While others trained in Viper's curves, TMV trained in Viper's straight lines.

    • @Ketrab-
      @Ketrab- 7 місяців тому +1

      Viper's curves?

    • @TheGamer-yh4lw
      @TheGamer-yh4lw 7 місяців тому +60

      @@Ketrab-Viper's curves.

    • @user-kr2ki4dm6v
      @user-kr2ki4dm6v 7 місяців тому

      are you a knockers or a gyatt type of guy?

    • @LOCALTAHOENJOYER
      @LOCALTAHOENJOYER 6 місяців тому

      ​@@user-kr2ki4dm6v *MEN*

    • @joshuachoi2410
      @joshuachoi2410 6 місяців тому

      ​@@user-kr2ki4dm6vAin't no way you used "gyatt" unironically

  • @CreeperawmanYT
    @CreeperawmanYT 7 місяців тому +24

    What i liked about this wall, is it doesnt matter if the attacker lost a main but has cubby control and viper still alive could be use to relieve the pressure from A main and focus on other part of site

  • @quyenphamkhac1941
    @quyenphamkhac1941 7 місяців тому +15

    Fancy always has very creative team comps, they don't follow meta, they just play their own style

  • @anhnguyendoduy3717
    @anhnguyendoduy3717 7 місяців тому +13

    As a Vietnamese, pretty proud of Fancy as always be the pioneer of creative comps

  • @SPLuke
    @SPLuke 7 місяців тому +138

    Havent watched the video yet but just the title makes me hopeful that FINALLY the boring Ascent Meta could change.

    • @thesilvanalyst6880
      @thesilvanalyst6880 7 місяців тому +38

      Well, if it's just "Viper double controller" that's not really progress either.

    • @jingyasun6292
      @jingyasun6292 7 місяців тому +3

      Honestly the Ascent Meta might change just based on the Cypher buffs alone.

    • @lanceshadow7335
      @lanceshadow7335 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jingyasun6292 does he have "unbreakable" trips on this map?

    • @AislingLER
      @AislingLER 7 місяців тому +3

      @@jingyasun6292 It won't. The ascent meta is painfully resilient, even in chamber meta people were still running the default comp, cypher buffs won't do anything.

    • @aminesira4699
      @aminesira4699 7 місяців тому

      Oh yeah
      Now It's the viper in every map problem

  • @titumagic8466
    @titumagic8466 7 місяців тому +7

    not the goth mommy viper at the start of the video 💀

  • @funkycrawler619
    @funkycrawler619 7 місяців тому +38

    This video following the Skye video I think is interesting to consider Viper/Gekko viability. Gekko/Harbor have synergy but I think have the option to do a Wingman plant in that pocket is pretty smart. Also using Fade for her corner-clearing potential also adds value.

    • @imaginebeingindian247
      @imaginebeingindian247 7 місяців тому +2

      I've seen a lot in pro scene where they duo controller, Viper/Harbor and to think about it both their walls does have effect when an enemy is in contact with it, in which benefits them in a lot of ways.
      I kinda wish they make it on Omen and Astra's smoke as well, like there's some sort of effect if someone's inside it, like on Astra it kinda nullifies the sound of the outside of smoke (like her ult) and Omen's smoke kinda giving you a slight paranoia effect when inside the smoke. Brim's smoke can stay the same visually makes it hard to see inside.

    • @fuchslochtv
      @fuchslochtv 7 місяців тому

      @funkycrawler619 don't you think the defenders will come up with the idea of shooting the only possible small plant spot?

    • @funkycrawler619
      @funkycrawler619 7 місяців тому +1

      Well yes but that's assuming you do it every round...when you don't have to...but it gives variety. @@fuchslochtv

  • @misterme1134
    @misterme1134 7 місяців тому +7

    Holy fucking shit... Someone actually did it they're gonna make me play Viper on Ascent too now

  • @diduoup7407
    @diduoup7407 7 місяців тому +4

    I was wondering if cypher could be a big problem with trips and the cam, and yeah the trips can be broken with fade's cats + someone but the cam could pose problem, however a split push from the viper comp with cover of the orb mid would kinda negate the use for the cam unless you're willing to give up tree control or you have 3 people on defense, which mean you need good info so a double/triple initiator comp. also a jett could use her smokes to protect someone while they break the trip so that the cam doesnt get a free kill

    • @321MkwRocks
      @321MkwRocks 6 місяців тому

      cypher cam plus phantom spray beats this setup as they wont hear or see a very high cypher cam (over the chockepoint) however that cypher cam is known by pros but then again pro games usually play kj here rather then cypher so it could work for a couple of rounds

  • @sosa6163
    @sosa6163 7 місяців тому +1

    saadhak might cook up some viper and cypher on ascent i feel, bringing in qck adds so much flexibility and he was talking about crazy comps already

  • @Xygard
    @Xygard 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you fancy united for cooking this viper attack ascent now teams like prx who had a possible defense setup gonna cooking even more thanks for the warm up

  • @maxwmosc
    @maxwmosc 7 місяців тому +8

    that intro xD

  • @abyss7708
    @abyss7708 7 місяців тому

    fun video as always

  • @ceoflippers
    @ceoflippers 7 місяців тому

    Thanks tmv someone played viper solo controller on ascent today and played a wall on A that looks somewhat like this one but does in fact not help and just stops my teammates in site being able to trade me when I double satchel in and get wide swung by the guy swinging heaven

  • @MikeyMicale
    @MikeyMicale 7 місяців тому +5

    something new on ascent 😁
    its viper☠

  • @joshua667z
    @joshua667z 7 місяців тому +2

    you need to watch where fancy lost to TNT in the predator league this wall might be good but their set up makes little sense when execting

  • @saliobr4538
    @saliobr4538 7 місяців тому

    What about playing omen/jett on top of that wood box you can at least get the viper if she is lurking but you might need to invest a smoke

  • @RainbowUmbrella-cj8lg
    @RainbowUmbrella-cj8lg 7 місяців тому

    damn I was hype that they find a single smoke setup for viper on ascent

  • @yaotziN
    @yaotziN 7 місяців тому

    one of my fav walls on this map. Used it a lot on the past.

  • @imaginebeingindian247
    @imaginebeingindian247 7 місяців тому +6

    Not just that, Viper in defense does better job than other sentinels. She's like both controller and sentinel and can easily lock up a site additionally if she got her ult.

    • @isaacmcmanus3666
      @isaacmcmanus3666 6 місяців тому

      Does Kay/0 suppress shutdown viper ulti? If it does that limits her viability in terms of being able to use her ultimate to lockdown a site as she can just be chased out of her ult by Kay/o's knife/ult. If it doesn't then she seems like she could be NASTY on B site defence (ulting to take proactive B main control and just shutting that entire lane down).

    • @PPSzB
      @PPSzB 6 місяців тому

      @@isaacmcmanus3666 No, kayo ult doesn't shut down viper ult

    • @isaacmcmanus3666
      @isaacmcmanus3666 6 місяців тому

      @@PPSzB Viper could be SO nasty on this map!!!!

  • @nik_mik
    @nik_mik 7 місяців тому

    I remember i played viper all the time before the first buff... now here we are lol

  • @sergrojGrayFace
    @sergrojGrayFace 7 місяців тому

    That orb makes sure defenders can't make a site segment + wine crossfire. Wine is too free for defenders otherwise.

  • @tickleme6670
    @tickleme6670 7 місяців тому

    whats the vandal skin that the viper on fancy had?

  • @Dyleniz
    @Dyleniz 7 місяців тому

    Fancy really cook with this one

  • @TaIaI
    @TaIaI 7 місяців тому

    Wait this is insane

  • @321MkwRocks
    @321MkwRocks 6 місяців тому

    funny enough this wall get used alot in low elo iron bronze etc cause people like to get "free plants" without site control which isnt good but it works for this A split

  • @DJamz-xp7dc
    @DJamz-xp7dc 6 місяців тому

    Cypher counters that wall especially after the buff

  • @kompetenzmitz2818
    @kompetenzmitz2818 7 місяців тому

    So today we’re gonna make skye meta on ascent too. So the same three agents will be meta on every map!

  • @rev0live752
    @rev0live752 7 місяців тому

    how do you do the orb?

  • @coins1k
    @coins1k 7 місяців тому

    i see that wall im putting someone top gen pretty often

  • @MuttonErase
    @MuttonErase 7 місяців тому

    Nice wall bro.
    Counterargument: Unbreakable cypher a main trip

  • @luismateu1635
    @luismateu1635 7 місяців тому

    i feel like an easy counter would just be cypher cam and trip on main no?

  • @richardstiff8192
    @richardstiff8192 7 місяців тому

    Yes. Yes like that

  • @tristanpoopnugget8411
    @tristanpoopnugget8411 7 місяців тому +1

    would it not be better if viper moved up a bit to the box at a main and aligned the wall with the corner top box of heaven so the attackers could wrap right side dice and potentially silent jump up on heaven

    • @MercurialOne
      @MercurialOne 7 місяців тому +2

      Seems like that would too much space

    • @Maxawa.
      @Maxawa. 7 місяців тому +3

      nope, they can just watch main from that gap then (near dice or near the wooden box), especially if it’s someone like jett or chamber. the point isnt to have someone able to sneak that deep for that 1/50 chance to backstab the enemies, it’s to create questions about where the attackers are pushing and to give them an easier time getting onto site

    • @dean988
      @dean988 6 місяців тому

      that might work as sort of a mixup maybe once or twice a game once theyre getting more accustomed to the normal wall, but like the other guy said it would help the defense more than attack

  • @Chrosteellium
    @Chrosteellium 7 місяців тому

    Oh god damn it.

  • @xxcridonxx7614
    @xxcridonxx7614 7 місяців тому

    Yessss, viper on ascent

  • @microbolt9746
    @microbolt9746 7 місяців тому

    Viper on every map when

  • @oregano2771
    @oregano2771 7 місяців тому

    Maybe playing Cypher on A could counter this

  • @yourjustdesserts
    @yourjustdesserts 7 місяців тому

    Tbf OAS got read like a book, and anything looks good when that happens

  • @SilverDew_
    @SilverDew_ 7 місяців тому +1

    FANCY WINS FANCY WINS FANCY WINS

  • @a-dank-llama
    @a-dank-llama 7 місяців тому +1

    bros thinking about something else now 💀

  • @recht181
    @recht181 7 місяців тому

    Lorewise, it's not for nothing that Viper is a founding member of Valorant.

  • @whereami.
    @whereami. 7 місяців тому +1

    Might be a bit early to reveal your unhealthy obsession with Viper, should probably until next month to do that

  • @cheap272
    @cheap272 7 місяців тому

    Aint no way he opens the video with viper rule 34

  • @shientioh4865
    @shientioh4865 7 місяців тому

    The last bastion has fallen, viper has fully conquered the meta

    • @F1reNation
      @F1reNation 7 місяців тому

      As a viper main this makes me smile

  • @PPSzB
    @PPSzB 6 місяців тому

    It's a hard counter to Omen on A site. You completely deny one ways in main and chokepoint and the paranoia from dice isn't that useful with this setup. Also with Viper meta on Ascent, I can see different duelists may shine, maybe even Iso?

  • @facecafe111
    @facecafe111 7 місяців тому +2

    yet another rreason to nerf Chamber.

  • @teejayxe3901
    @teejayxe3901 7 місяців тому

    I still remember HIko stream in Valorant Yr 1 Saying Skye and Viper are the shittiest agents in Valorant 😆😆

  • @-hana7895
    @-hana7895 7 місяців тому

    viper on acent?!

  • @maxsm_
    @maxsm_ 7 місяців тому

    i’m getting tired of “fuck it, viper” on every map

  • @cheezylama2886
    @cheezylama2886 7 місяців тому +1

    TMV got so bored of the Ascent meta that he started making new ones

  • @aryankarmhe
    @aryankarmhe 7 місяців тому

    Cypher can counter that thing

  • @trsiam7779
    @trsiam7779 7 місяців тому

    Oh come on

  • @facecafe111
    @facecafe111 7 місяців тому

    Thank the valorant gods. ascent can now be less boring.

  • @hungVu-gy6dj
    @hungVu-gy6dj 7 місяців тому

    ngạo nghễ fancy

  • @oatcake9996
    @oatcake9996 7 місяців тому

    They need a way of nerfing viper whilst making her still good in ranked. For instance, u just can't pick up the orb. Much more simple for ranked but can have an impact on pro play

    • @user-ye1wb2zn6v
      @user-ye1wb2zn6v 7 місяців тому +1

      That doesnt change her. They should make that she has limited fuel for example of 300 and it does not recharge

    • @oatcake9996
      @oatcake9996 7 місяців тому

      @@user-ye1wb2zn6v yeah, more than just the orb change.

  • @jeffperson3765
    @jeffperson3765 7 місяців тому

    I think that viper could be fixed by buffing all of her abilities and then range limiting her smokes. It would make her less global and more limited on attack, but keep her strong on defense.

  • @freakingannonymouspanda1766
    @freakingannonymouspanda1766 7 місяців тому

    Maybe, viper was the chamber, all along....

  • @caminhaodelixo2
    @caminhaodelixo2 7 місяців тому

    this wall is old

  • @zpfier
    @zpfier 7 місяців тому

    Skye is not the problem

  • @Leakrost
    @Leakrost 7 місяців тому

    Day 1 of asking tmv to get a new headset.

  • @mxg_val
    @mxg_val 7 місяців тому +2

    Anyone else actually like the ascent meta? I weirdly like watching the same comp each time

    • @madeline569
      @madeline569 7 місяців тому +1

      Playing it sucks unless you 5 stack

  • @hardik9867
    @hardik9867 7 місяців тому

    I honestly just hate the viper meta it’s annoying and boring to have to play 2 smokes

  • @Fluskar
    @Fluskar 7 місяців тому

    viper enjoyers are based

  • @seenmess3228
    @seenmess3228 7 місяців тому

    Another map falls to viper.....

  • @exarion2239
    @exarion2239 7 місяців тому

    Pls remove insta decay rito

  • @regista4
    @regista4 7 місяців тому

    TMV HAVE MERCY IT'S NO NUT NOVEMBER