@@DEVIANT... I haven't tested those, very impressed with the LT series from DeepCool and some of the new 420mm's are also awesome to get the most out of it. I have heard nothing but good things on he artic freezer.
This is literally the only video I could find actually comparing them. This guy is the real deal. So sick of everytime I look for reviews/comparisons it's someone just showing photos of the part reading off specs, or just standing next to a PC with the part in it for the whole video without any change in camera angle lol.
There probably needs to be a part two to this video, comparing the Corsair new/old AIOs to your other AIO picks of 2021 onwards from Phanteks, NZXT and Fractal as well as throwing in the Arctic Liquid Freezer II series, highlighting each AIO’s unique feature set, and seeing whether combining each brand’s high static-pressure fans (e.g.: ML120) with their respective high-airflow fans (e.g.: AF120) in a push-pull AIO would’ve truly made a difference (especially with the 13900KS (even undervolted)). Also, looks like your experimenting with the studio lighting with a bit more green here!
We would do that in a larger probably recap versus a part two of a review 😀. It’s also hard to compare some of these given this is probably a big year for AiO refreshes meaning a lot of older models are going EOL, like the older Capellix and LCD models from Corsair.
The coolant temp sensor is a win for me, I know nzxt also has it, but I already use corsair fans, so I go with the corsair AIO. That is why I would never use some of the budget friendly variants, but this is ofc on my build, if you like it go for it.
So just bought the h150 elite lcd xt over this weekend prior to the video. I’m new to all this water cooling AIO stuff.. last time I built a computer was probably 12-15 years ago. Man.. they’ve come a long way. I have to say, the “icue” and using the fans and LCD screen.. it’s wild. I actually love the lcd screen! Kinda the reason I bought it lol. If you’re going for a fancy pants - all RGB gaming rig, you won’t be disappointed. It’s a tough pill to swallow for the price, but I think it’s wicked
if your worried about resource usage with icue, don't. when its brought to the foreground yes it uses some resources but if you hit exit and its running in the background it uses none of the cpu at all. Just a little bit of ram, maybe 300mb at most. At least this is with my old corsair 240mm AIO. Looking for upgrades as it can no longer support my upgraded cpu and it seems to be showing its age a little bit.
I got the H150i Elite Capillex for dirt cheap on sale last November. Can't complain with the performance. Keeps the CPU running well below my previous AIO. (11700k Idle 23-25°C & Load 45-60°C depending on what I am doing) Picked up the LCD upgrade on sale during the holidays for $75. Love it so far! Sidenote, I swapped out all the fans in my O11D Evo from Corsair to Lian Li Uni Infinity fans. Even on the cooler. Mainly for less wiring. Went from 20 individuals fan cables to 4 total. Well worth it. Running them on the same fan curves as the ML120s, especially the ones on the cooler, I didn't experience a change in CPU temps at all. Even with less static pressure. Overall though, the cooler is excellent. Those "new" prices are a hard pill to swallow though.
@@prozoomy Not at all. Even with it set to "Extreme" for pump speed in iCue, I rarely hear it. Or at least I rarely hear it get noticeably audible. The loudest I ever heard it was when I first got it and I put my head close to it with the fans off to make sure it was working correctly. Other than that, fairly quiet.
I looked at my iCue and was able to rotate the LCD screen. It's just not very noticable, but it's going to be on the bottom right when you have screen setup selected. the 2 like boomerang shaped arrows rotate the screen.
I love the Elite Capellix XT coolers, and I love that they work off an included Commander Core XT. My cases all use six fans in total, so they can all be managed off that Commander Core. It makes installation quite straightforward and management very easy, even with all the wires involved in RGB fans. Plus the newer four-point AM4/AM5 mounting setup is SO much easier than the old one they had that used the standard AMD clips, that was such a nightmare. I used to swear by Corsair ML fans, but the AF Elites do a great job and subjectively they seem quieter.
one thing not mentioned here between the ML and AF fans (and a huge deal breaker) MLs use Magnetic Levitation vs the Fluid Dynamic Bearings on the AFs, this matters cz Fluid Bearing fans usually dont last anywhere near as long, I have the older ML 140 RGB fans and have had them for several years now with no issues, but any fluid bearing type fan from corsair or other brands usually started to fail within 2-3 years. I wouldnt trust the AFs, not especially as an exhaust fan (hot air from GPU can dry out the bearings much quicker)
I have a lot of lighting both inside my PC and outside on various peripherals. All controlled/synchronized within iCUE. I am using a lot of Corsair products including the H100i ELITE LCD XT. All works well together and I really don't notice the hit to resources. AF fans may not be the best on a radiator but they get the job done.
i have a 4 year old h150i pro do i need to swap it out? and is the upgrade worth it? in terms of technological improvements like are newer aios just plane better than older ones or is it just beceause of new fans and new software features so the radiator and pump and heat transfere speeds etc. is exactly the same or did that improve aswell beceause my 9900 ks does thermal throttle in boost with my aio and reaches about 70 to 75 degrees Celcius my coolant temp reached up to 40 (it is undervolted with -0.45 mV) and when it boosts to 180 and sometimes more watts it hits 100 C basically instant i know the cpus are desinged to do that but are newer aios better at handeling these wattages and spikes in cpu heat ? thanks in advance
What about durability and reliability? Ive had a few corsair AIOs over the years and 0 issues, decided to try deepcool AIO, a fan failed after 2 months of light use. What is everyone's experience or recommendation regarding durability and reliability between the 2 brands? Thanks!
Just got the H150i Elite Capellix XT White version. I'll use it with the new ryzen 9 7900x3d when it's available to purchase and 4070 Ti, all of this in the Corsair 5000x RGB QL Edition White case :D Can't wait to put all of this together
What is better for the pump ? , use it on extreme or balanced... some poeple say that it is better to use the pump always on xtreme... and it would not affect at all its time span
the cpu and ram usage is very odd, im on W10 with all the updates and icue is sitting at like 0.2 to 0.5% usage and about 250MB on the memory, and ive had it open for over 24hrs.
hmm my icue uses 82 mb of memory using 10x as much in this video maybe older version of the software since this is a year old? I'm using version 5.20.89
Strangely, the techpowerup site has different test results, the Corsair iCUE H150i Elite LCD XT is on average better than the DeepCoola 720 by -10 degrees. who to believe)
I've seen your reviews of these products and you're praising all the products An honest impression away from marketing. It cannot be said that they are all good. Please give us the efficiency results under pressure and noise tests to see what is best.
I’m so embedded into icue it’s so hard to switch to a company like deepcool. I have an h150i rgb elite with 6 rgb Corsair fans. The only thing I like about making the switch to a deepcool aio is i free up 1 usb connection and a few degrees better performance. I love Corsair but I sometimes hate how they prefer aesthetic over performance. Why not make a combo of both ??
Tried different brands of aio's for the past years. Only thing holding me from swapping my Arctic to a nice white Corsair is the noise they used to make. It was horrible
I have a question about iCue's CPU/RAM usage and please correct me if I'm wrong. With iCue you have the software that controls everything, if someone were to decide to buy a different brand AIO or/and different control software for RGB, how much software do you need to install to control that "non-Corsair" configuration and how much CPU/RAM will that eventually use? I would say that any setup needs software. Going for different brands might even end up using more software. Please your opinion and experience is appreciated.
I'm curious as well. I'm basically unsure if ICUE using around a 2% - 4% CPU load is even bad or not, relatively speaking. The only time I've seen it brought up is this video and it's got me questioning my entire existence😂 nah but it's making me reconsider how I'm gonna build my first PC. I don't want some dumb lights to affect my gameplay or ability to multitask. But I do want to have RGB. Maybe Signalrgb or another program has a much less CPU load to run?
I'm planning on buying the h150i, I already have 6 ML120 RGB Elites, do you think I should just swap 3 of them on the radiator and use the 3 included as case fans?
Great video, I've got a corsair eco system I've had to send my h100i back due to the pump noise. Do the new ones use the same pump or do they run at a lower rpm in quiet mode ?
Great video! I personally have the Lian Li Galahad 240mm aio for my 13700k and it's been just fine, I wanted an lcd screen for the looks but idk if I'd wanna pay that much just for that.
For this one it does matter and no I don’t use a torque. I tighten them really well not to strip them but to ensure they are very tight. It has impacted temps.
Thanks for breaking down the differences, this was the only video I found helpful! You mentioed the CPU usage that ICUE demands, is that enough to negatively impact gaming performance or ability to multitask? Would other RGB software like SignalRgb have a similar CPU load? Sorry for the loaded question. Thanks!
Just picked this up the other day! Building my first PC and the old 150i Elite was sold out everywhere. Figured it had to be an improvement. Debating what other types of fans to buy. I picked up a black 5000T case from corsiar that came with 3 LL fans. This cooler has these 3 AL fans. The 5000T CAN fit 4 more fans. But idk if i need 4 of them. Thinking QL fans, but idk if it'll look weird having 3 different types of fans in the case.
For any AIO I'd love to see a comparison between the stock fans and "Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM", because just from the datasheet alone, they're quieter, have a much higher air flow and a much higher static pressure while using "only" 1.2W. Biggest advantage: standard connectors and no RGB BS (which you could add with the "Phanteks Halos Lux Frame" if you really want RGB).
There’s another chapter in the Corsair Elite series: they’re rolling out updated RGB Elite versions of the 4000D Airflow and 5000D airflow with the RGB AF fans plus mounts on the PSU shroud for airflow for the graphics card. Will this warrant a side-by-side build comparison between the original and updated cases with the same PC components to see whether the Elite has become better in any way?
One thing about the newer Corsair AIOs...if you bought one of the original Elite Capellix models, you can convert them into any of these newer ones (just buy the new fans and/or the LCD top).
Which raises the question of why they don't release a version of the Elite Capellix with just the AIO (and LCD) and let the consumer decide what fans they want to use (say QL120 for example)?
@@Combaticon Yeah, those QL120 fans are purely for aesthetic appeal. They have mediocre cooling performance. They don't have high enough RPM neither. If you are going to get Corsair fans for cooling and some fantastic appeal, just get the LL RGB fans. But if you don't care for appeal, get those Noctua fans dude.
@@mikewil7571yeah, but people make wayy to big a deal over fans. Fans are fans. Pc cases aren’t perfect vacuums. Unless your building in one of those tiny ITX cases it don’t really matter. I have a lian li evo with all QL fans with a 12900k and temps are amazing. No need to put a way uglier fans and compromise aesthetics just to save 2 degrees lol.
Having issues with newly RGB ram installed previously had Corsair vengeance RGB pro SL decided to add vengeance RGB pro. All of a sudden after adding the new ones, it would freeze and error message basically saying that icue stopped receiving data from the rams. All started after adding more ram which shouldn’t be a problem.
If you dont have want the LCD and just want the cappellix. The price does NOT justify the performance then cuz for no LCD and just rgb at 170 there are hella AIOs that BLOW it out of the water
Great video! Loved the format and editing. Keep up the Great work! I love watching/listening to tech related videos, and you hit a lot of key points that I like to see. Subscribed and liked. 👍
I just bought the elite lcd 240 and it had a bad 20 pin commander cable and I wasted 2+ hours trying to troubleshoot it. I said eff it and bought the cqpellix version from Best Buy and threw it in bc I didn’t want to wait. I bought the upgrade lcd and it comes in tomorrow. Earlier that day, I also installed a DOA (2x32GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum set of DDR5 5200. I had some backup t force to use in the meantime but there is no way I could be this lucky. The replacement dominator ram which is the 6000 comes in tomorrow. Pray for me
Corsair AIO's looks awesome, but that stupid box and all the cables are the reason why I decided to go with something else. I got a Deepcool LS720 WH, and it's better than any other AIO's I have ever owned. The way the fans can be set up in a chain, one single cable for all the fans and LED's is awesome.
I like the corsair software and ecosystem but im looking for an aio for a friend in a Y60 and Im not sure i want to saddle him with iCUE. Currently were about to go with the XT and some corsair ram
i recently got the elite lcd screen version, and yes icue does use 2.2% cpu but, even with having world of warcraft going, and 3 monitors going, my total utilization is only 19%, so on a whole it's actually a drop in the bucket, and trust me, i have a lot of rgb in my pc. so much so i have to turn it off at night in order to sleep.
You can’t have a fan curve without iCue. So testing without it wouldn’t work. Not unless you hooked the fans up to the Mobo directly and not use the Commander Core.
@@robeytech I'm curious if there's a way to see if that makes up the lower numbers or if that usage is negligible. Maybe running the other AIOs while having iCUE running in the background to see if it lowers anything?
If it was just lighting design and ease/cleanliness of installation it would have to be Corsair for me. The Icue Link version (no LCD screen) has probably the prettiest pump-lighting out there and the way they hide the pump cables and give you a foolproof system to slot the fans into each other and all that is simply outstanding. And while Lian Li's Uni/INF fans will offer a similar system to lock the fans together, their AiOs still have a bunch of cables coming off the waterblock, making things messy and a bit ugly. All that said: The price of the Corsair AiOs made me look elsewhere almost immediately. I'll take a bit of "ugliness" and inconvenience if it means I can save up to $/€100 while still getting the same, or probably better, cooling performance.
Are the CORSAIR - iCUE SP120 RGB ELITE Performance fans any good for being used on aios? I have a couple laying around and like them but don't know if they would be any good.
The LL 120 is another it’s got higher static pressure. I’m guessing they’re newer ? They had some other LL models in black that were half that in pressure. The ones I got though said 3.0.
I just got the non XT version of the LCD Elite 360. I'm not even sure if I should be mad a revision came out at the same exact time I was looking for one. Seems like a sidegrade, not an upgrade. Another point is that I only picked this cooler because almost everything was out of stock.
Consider yourself as a lucky man, You got a golden piece. This XT one is downgrade, and the old one is no longer in production. So enjoy those magnet bearings, brother.
Having a thermaltake 360 cooler and knowing how shocking there software is makes me think i shouldn't take risks in the future and stick with corsair as the 9 other fans and hardware i use are all corsair. I only went with TT because at the time of my build some 4 years ago there was little to no other choice when wanting rgb fans in a 360 So having said all this your review is fantastic, it's helped me decide on my next aio and it has to be this one with lcd and it all comes down to i-cue Thank you!
be nice if they make one's without RGB. Molecular made the same you're just paying for more RGB and design of the look or look or if the CPU block has a screen built into it.
So is the only difference between the XT and the non-XT the ML and AL fans?? They put so many coolers out with so many similar names. And I’m not a newbie. I’ve been in this game building almost 20 years. I’m well versed in air,aio, and custom loops. But man corsairs naming, frequent refreshes, and lack of listing performance specifications is confusing. I had to dig to find what elite xt vs elite ( no xt).
No, they also (at least claim) that it has a new copper plate specifically designed for the latest AMD and Intel processors. + a new improved thermalpaste (which most people probably wipe off anyways lol)
for the people who have their corsair lcd aios installed upside down just edit your gif and make it upside down and apply its gonna show as normal lol, i know its obvious but i just wanted to say
Am I the only one who feels slighted by Corsair? Shortly after purchasing this icue Elite Capellix XT and the extra LCD Display Pump, with all of this hype about future upgradability coming, Corsair decides to come out with a whole new better line of similar products which are far better with a whole lot of upgradability and hasn't come out with one thing for it in a year.. Plus, none of our stuff crosses over (if I'm getting this straight) to the new stuff and vice versa. For instance - Not being able to use the new VRM Fan attatchment (even if I wanted to purchase the new hub) on my icue h150 capellix xt less then 1 year after purchasing is downright thievery. Am I missing something here?
I don't understand corsair switching everything to these af fans. I bought the corsair 240mm elite aio with the non rgb af120's and they are stupid loud. I immediately replaced them. The ml120 and ml140 are my favourite fans but these are just not good
I love the ML120 Elites. I didn’t notice excessive noise even when they are on max but that’s good to note for when we do a build with them later this week.
@@robeytech oh yeah the elites are fantastic. Definitely my go to. When you do your build get up close to the af fan at high speed and listen for rattling too. They don't have the mag lev bearing and lots of online reviews complain about the noise/rattle.
As a H170i Elite LCD owner , the XT versions are not an upgrade when you have literally changed nothing except of some noisier with lower static pressure fans. One of the worst "upgrades" I have ever seen.
After my arctic liquid freezer ll 360 shows up tomorrow, I’ll never touch a Corsair aio again. Mainly because of price and really shit performance on their fans and middling or bad static pressure
Right, it's big thing that sits "IN THE BACK OF YOUR PC". again, "THE BACK OF YOUR PC" along with all the wires and cords that sit back of the pc so they can't ber seen. I don't get what the deal is. Plus, both the RGB and the fans are being connected to one unit as oppsed to two seperate units like before or others still and you can connect up to 6 fans! It's great! So, what's the issue with it? Plus, if you showed the software or used it you would know you can change the image disply by 90 degrees each time for whatever positi0on you want. But you don't show how it all works or installs. Do you get paid by corsair to show this btw? Thanks...
those prices LMAO as if such a small LCD that you look at for like 2 secs per day make such a huge difference.... imma stay with non RGB, non display AIOs for way cheaper
So they made a new edition, increased the price and downgraded the fans? Let's not forget that ML had Magnet bearings, that last forever. Compared to fluid ones that eventually die.
love your videos man, dont understand why you dont have 10x as many subs, keep up the great work
Agreed. Especially reviews such as this.
Thank you so very much for the kind words! We will just keep making great content!
@@robeytech Np.. and No doubt it will get much better
@@robeytech what's your recommendation for cooling the 7950x 3D I've chosen the artic freezer 2, 280 or maybe 360.
@@DEVIANT... I haven't tested those, very impressed with the LT series from DeepCool and some of the new 420mm's are also awesome to get the most out of it. I have heard nothing but good things on he artic freezer.
This is literally the only video I could find actually comparing them. This guy is the real deal. So sick of everytime I look for reviews/comparisons it's someone just showing photos of the part reading off specs, or just standing next to a PC with the part in it for the whole video without any change in camera angle lol.
I don't understand how you don't get 50x or at least 10x more views?! You're a prime example of how UA-cam's algorithm makes absolutely no sense!
.. So basically in that rig you're losing 50 FPS for the bling of the LEDs and fan control software overhead. 😂👍
Shut up he a good UA-camr like who names them selfs d jaquith
@@Naxy_editz .. Learn to read genius. Reread what I said. 🤪
@@DJaquithFLAs a 14 year old, I apologize on his behalf. He's just mentally ill.
I want to note that when you blew on the CPU in the intro it dropped 1*C, and I appreciate that. A man of true science!
There probably needs to be a part two to this video, comparing the Corsair new/old AIOs to your other AIO picks of 2021 onwards from Phanteks, NZXT and Fractal as well as throwing in the Arctic Liquid Freezer II series, highlighting each AIO’s unique feature set, and seeing whether combining each brand’s high static-pressure fans (e.g.: ML120) with their respective high-airflow fans (e.g.: AF120) in a push-pull AIO would’ve truly made a difference (especially with the 13900KS (even undervolted)).
Also, looks like your experimenting with the studio lighting with a bit more green here!
We would do that in a larger probably recap versus a part two of a review 😀. It’s also hard to compare some of these given this is probably a big year for AiO refreshes meaning a lot of older models are going EOL, like the older Capellix and LCD models from Corsair.
The coolant temp sensor is a win for me, I know nzxt also has it, but I already use corsair fans, so I go with the corsair AIO. That is why I would never use some of the budget friendly variants, but this is ofc on my build, if you like it go for it.
So just bought the h150 elite lcd xt over this weekend prior to the video. I’m new to all this water cooling AIO stuff.. last time I built a computer was probably 12-15 years ago. Man.. they’ve come a long way. I have to say, the “icue” and using the fans and LCD screen.. it’s wild. I actually love the lcd screen! Kinda the reason I bought it lol. If you’re going for a fancy pants - all RGB gaming rig, you won’t be disappointed. It’s a tough pill to swallow for the price, but I think it’s wicked
if your worried about resource usage with icue, don't. when its brought to the foreground yes it uses some resources but if you hit exit and its running in the background it uses none of the cpu at all. Just a little bit of ram, maybe 300mb at most. At least this is with my old corsair 240mm AIO. Looking for upgrades as it can no longer support my upgraded cpu and it seems to be showing its age a little bit.
love the way you compared vs the other Corsair models!
You mentioned the inability to rotate the screen, it is an option, but only in the Image/GIF screen type which is really strange.
I got the H150i Elite Capillex for dirt cheap on sale last November. Can't complain with the performance. Keeps the CPU running well below my previous AIO. (11700k Idle 23-25°C & Load 45-60°C depending on what I am doing) Picked up the LCD upgrade on sale during the holidays for $75. Love it so far!
Sidenote, I swapped out all the fans in my O11D Evo from Corsair to Lian Li Uni Infinity fans. Even on the cooler. Mainly for less wiring. Went from 20 individuals fan cables to 4 total. Well worth it. Running them on the same fan curves as the ML120s, especially the ones on the cooler, I didn't experience a change in CPU temps at all. Even with less static pressure.
Overall though, the cooler is excellent. Those "new" prices are a hard pill to swallow though.
Is the pump loud ??
@@prozoomy Not at all. Even with it set to "Extreme" for pump speed in iCue, I rarely hear it. Or at least I rarely hear it get noticeably audible. The loudest I ever heard it was when I first got it and I put my head close to it with the fans off to make sure it was working correctly. Other than that, fairly quiet.
@@lttlejordan23that's good to hear (: thanks
I looked at my iCue and was able to rotate the LCD screen. It's just not very noticable, but it's going to be on the bottom right when you have screen setup selected. the 2 like boomerang shaped arrows rotate the screen.
This guy is an absolute professional. Hats off sir.
I love the Elite Capellix XT coolers, and I love that they work off an included Commander Core XT. My cases all use six fans in total, so they can all be managed off that Commander Core. It makes installation quite straightforward and management very easy, even with all the wires involved in RGB fans. Plus the newer four-point AM4/AM5 mounting setup is SO much easier than the old one they had that used the standard AMD clips, that was such a nightmare. I used to swear by Corsair ML fans, but the AF Elites do a great job and subjectively they seem quieter.
one thing not mentioned here between the ML and AF fans (and a huge deal breaker) MLs use Magnetic Levitation vs the Fluid Dynamic Bearings on the AFs, this matters cz Fluid Bearing fans usually dont last anywhere near as long, I have the older ML 140 RGB fans and have had them for several years now with no issues, but any fluid bearing type fan from corsair or other brands usually started to fail within 2-3 years. I wouldnt trust the AFs, not especially as an exhaust fan (hot air from GPU can dry out the bearings much quicker)
I hope you all know that sound levels (measured in db) are on a logarhytmic scale, where for every +3db the noise doubles!
Finally someone who tests AIOs with the same fans. Thank you!
I have a lot of lighting both inside my PC and outside on various peripherals. All controlled/synchronized within iCUE. I am using a lot of Corsair products including the H100i ELITE LCD XT. All works well together and I really don't notice the hit to resources. AF fans may not be the best on a radiator but they get the job done.
i have a 4 year old h150i pro do i need to swap it out? and is the upgrade worth it? in terms of technological improvements like are newer aios just plane better than older ones or is it just beceause of new fans and new software features so the radiator and pump and heat transfere speeds etc. is exactly the same or did that improve aswell beceause my 9900 ks does thermal throttle in boost with my aio and reaches about 70 to 75 degrees Celcius my coolant temp reached up to 40 (it is undervolted with -0.45 mV) and when it boosts to 180 and sometimes more watts it hits 100 C basically instant i know the cpus are desinged to do that but are newer aios better at handeling these wattages and spikes in cpu heat ? thanks in advance
Huge corsair fan. that radiator, while isn't as good as the deepcool, is STILL REALLY GOOD
What about durability and reliability? Ive had a few corsair AIOs over the years and 0 issues, decided to try deepcool AIO, a fan failed after 2 months of light use. What is everyone's experience or recommendation regarding durability and reliability between the 2 brands? Thanks!
Just got the H150i Elite Capellix XT White version. I'll use it with the new ryzen 9 7900x3d when it's available to purchase and 4070 Ti, all of this in the Corsair 5000x RGB QL Edition White case :D Can't wait to put all of this together
When did these get released
@@QuantumRepeat what exactly ?
Any good performance brand or model without rgb? I don't wanna turn my pc in to a disco ball.
Just stumbled upon your channel. Absolutely fantastic! Your voice and graphics are top notch! Keep up the amazing work!
So is the original Capellix H100i better then? It’s £40 cheaper to buy.
What is better for the pump ? , use it on extreme or balanced... some poeple say that it is better to use the pump always on xtreme... and it would not affect at all its time span
the cpu and ram usage is very odd, im on W10 with all the updates and icue is sitting at like 0.2 to 0.5% usage and about 250MB on the memory, and ive had it open for over 24hrs.
hmm my icue uses 82 mb of memory using 10x as much in this video maybe older version of the software since this is a year old? I'm using version 5.20.89
what about `Corsair iCUE LINK` ? i mean `LINK` series ?
Strangely, the techpowerup site has different test results, the Corsair iCUE H150i Elite LCD XT is on average better than the DeepCoola 720 by -10 degrees. who to believe)
Kind of weird not unboxing / showing the product and features before being installed in a system / bench?
Are the AIO silince or make the pump some noice
Icue is a pain but I’ve never noticed performance issues from it. When its running in the background its barely taking up any resources at all
I've seen your reviews of these products and you're praising all the products
An honest impression away from marketing. It cannot be said that they are all good. Please give us the efficiency results under pressure and noise tests to see what is best.
I’m so embedded into icue it’s so hard to switch to a company like deepcool. I have an h150i rgb elite with 6 rgb Corsair fans. The only thing I like about making the switch to a deepcool aio is i free up 1 usb connection and a few degrees better performance. I love Corsair but I sometimes hate how they prefer aesthetic over performance. Why not make a combo of both ??
The biggest question i have is does it have so annoying pump whine as it was in the previous version? Sold it because of it.
Tried different brands of aio's for the past years. Only thing holding me from swapping my Arctic to a nice white Corsair is the noise they used to make. It was horrible
I use Corsair 360 coolers, but I replace the fans with the Phanteks T30 fans little better performance and noise.
I have a question about iCue's CPU/RAM usage and please correct me if I'm wrong. With iCue you have the software that controls everything, if someone were to decide to buy a different brand AIO or/and different control software for RGB, how much software do you need to install to control that "non-Corsair" configuration and how much CPU/RAM will that eventually use? I would say that any setup needs software. Going for different brands might even end up using more software. Please your opinion and experience is appreciated.
I'm curious as well. I'm basically unsure if ICUE using around a 2% - 4% CPU load is even bad or not, relatively speaking. The only time I've seen it brought up is this video and it's got me questioning my entire existence😂 nah but it's making me reconsider how I'm gonna build my first PC.
I don't want some dumb lights to affect my gameplay or ability to multitask. But I do want to have RGB. Maybe Signalrgb or another program has a much less CPU load to run?
I'm planning on buying the h150i, I already have 6 ML120 RGB Elites, do you think I should just swap 3 of them on the radiator and use the 3 included as case fans?
Great video, I've got a corsair eco system I've had to send my h100i back due to the pump noise. Do the new ones use the same pump or do they run at a lower rpm in quiet mode ?
i have the black Elite LCD... i bought awhile ago. i want the white one for the wife PC.... but, $300? she wont let me get it. :(
Is Inwin Airforce long enough inside for a CORSAIR ICUE H170I ELITE LCD XT DISPLAY 420MM ?
Great video! I personally have the Lian Li Galahad 240mm aio for my 13700k and it's been just fine, I wanted an lcd screen for the looks but idk if I'd wanna pay that much just for that.
What's your CPU temperature in heavy gaming?
@massoudwazir6389 at the time when I had that one it wouldn't reach 70c in games
what does cappelix mean
Would use processor affinity to put any back end system software like icue on an E-core
@Robeytech how tight do you tighten the screws for the CPU cooler? Do you use a torque screwdriver to stay consistent? Does it matter?
For this one it does matter and no I don’t use a torque. I tighten them really well not to strip them but to ensure they are very tight. It has impacted temps.
Thanks for breaking down the differences, this was the only video I found helpful!
You mentioed the CPU usage that ICUE demands, is that enough to negatively impact gaming performance or ability to multitask? Would other RGB software like SignalRgb have a similar CPU load? Sorry for the loaded question. Thanks!
Hey, what about the comparison with ICUE 170 ???
Just picked this up the other day! Building my first PC and the old 150i Elite was sold out everywhere. Figured it had to be an improvement. Debating what other types of fans to buy. I picked up a black 5000T case from corsiar that came with 3 LL fans. This cooler has these 3 AL fans. The 5000T CAN fit 4 more fans. But idk if i need 4 of them. Thinking QL fans, but idk if it'll look weird having 3 different types of fans in the case.
For any AIO I'd love to see a comparison between the stock fans and "Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM", because just from the datasheet alone, they're quieter, have a much higher air flow and a much higher static pressure while using "only" 1.2W. Biggest advantage: standard connectors and no RGB BS (which you could add with the "Phanteks Halos Lux Frame" if you really want RGB).
There’s another chapter in the Corsair Elite series: they’re rolling out updated RGB Elite versions of the 4000D Airflow and 5000D airflow with the RGB AF fans plus mounts on the PSU shroud for airflow for the graphics card. Will this warrant a side-by-side build comparison between the original and updated cases with the same PC components to see whether the Elite has become better in any way?
I'm about to start ordering parts for a 5000D build and was wondering, where you found this information. Any links to share?
One thing about the newer Corsair AIOs...if you bought one of the original Elite Capellix models, you can convert them into any of these newer ones (just buy the new fans and/or the LCD top).
Which raises the question of why they don't release a version of the Elite Capellix with just the AIO (and LCD) and let the consumer decide what fans they want to use (say QL120 for example)?
That is true! Though please do not use QL120 fans on your AiO they are terrible. We did a video (do fans matter) worth a watch!
@@Combaticon Yeah, those QL120 fans are purely for aesthetic appeal. They have mediocre cooling performance. They don't have high enough RPM neither. If you are going to get Corsair fans for cooling and some fantastic appeal, just get the LL RGB fans. But if you don't care for appeal, get those Noctua fans dude.
@@robeytech where’s that video? sounds interesting
@@mikewil7571yeah, but people make wayy to big a deal over fans. Fans are fans. Pc cases aren’t perfect vacuums. Unless your building in one of those tiny ITX cases it don’t really matter. I have a lian li evo with all QL fans with a 12900k and temps are amazing. No need to put a way uglier fans and compromise aesthetics just to save 2 degrees lol.
Having issues with newly RGB ram installed previously had Corsair vengeance RGB pro SL decided to add vengeance RGB pro. All of a sudden after adding the new ones, it would freeze and error message basically saying that icue stopped receiving data from the rams. All started after adding more ram which shouldn’t be a problem.
Late to the game, but appreciate the breakdown! Still torn on what to purchase, but the comparison was super helpful
If you dont have want the LCD and just want the cappellix. The price does NOT justify the performance then cuz for no LCD and just rgb at 170 there are hella AIOs that BLOW it out of the water
Great video! Loved the format and editing. Keep up the Great work! I love watching/listening to tech related videos, and you hit a lot of key points that I like to see. Subscribed and liked. 👍
first time commenting a video.Its great explanation
I just bought the elite lcd 240 and it had a bad 20 pin commander cable and I wasted 2+ hours trying to troubleshoot it. I said eff it and bought the cqpellix version from Best Buy and threw it in bc I didn’t want to wait. I bought the upgrade lcd and it comes in tomorrow.
Earlier that day, I also installed a DOA (2x32GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum set of DDR5 5200. I had some backup t force to use in the meantime but there is no way I could be this lucky. The replacement dominator ram which is the 6000 comes in tomorrow.
Pray for me
Corsair AIO's looks awesome, but that stupid box and all the cables are the reason why I decided to go with something else. I got a Deepcool LS720 WH, and it's better than any other AIO's I have ever owned. The way the fans can be set up in a chain, one single cable for all the fans and LED's is awesome.
I like the corsair software and ecosystem but im looking for an aio for a friend in a Y60 and Im not sure i want to saddle him with iCUE. Currently were about to go with the XT and some corsair ram
i recently got the elite lcd screen version, and yes icue does use 2.2% cpu but, even with having world of warcraft going, and 3 monitors going, my total utilization is only 19%, so on a whole it's actually a drop in the bucket, and trust me, i have a lot of rgb in my pc. so much so i have to turn it off at night in order to sleep.
On a 7800x3d, it never goes above 55degC even on Cyberpunk.
I am curious if iCue was disabled during testing given that it can decrease performance and might actually explain the lower results.
You can’t have a fan curve without iCue. So testing without it wouldn’t work. Not unless you hooked the fans up to the Mobo directly and not use the Commander Core.
@@robeytech I'm curious if there's a way to see if that makes up the lower numbers or if that usage is negligible. Maybe running the other AIOs while having iCUE running in the background to see if it lowers anything?
If it was just lighting design and ease/cleanliness of installation it would have to be Corsair for me. The Icue Link version (no LCD screen) has probably the prettiest pump-lighting out there and the way they hide the pump cables and give you a foolproof system to slot the fans into each other and all that is simply outstanding. And while Lian Li's Uni/INF fans will offer a similar system to lock the fans together, their AiOs still have a bunch of cables coming off the waterblock, making things messy and a bit ugly.
All that said: The price of the Corsair AiOs made me look elsewhere almost immediately. I'll take a bit of "ugliness" and inconvenience if it means I can save up to $/€100 while still getting the same, or probably better, cooling performance.
Are the CORSAIR - iCUE SP120 RGB ELITE Performance fans any good for being used on aios? I have a couple laying around and like them but don't know if they would be any good.
The LL 120 is another it’s got higher static pressure. I’m guessing they’re newer ? They had some other LL models in black that were half that in pressure. The ones I got though said 3.0.
When are you going to do the new Air coolers that were on display at the last tech show- the ones with the LCD screens ?
When they release ☺️
@@robeytech Thanks they look awesome
I just got the non XT version of the LCD Elite 360. I'm not even sure if I should be mad a revision came out at the same exact time I was looking for one. Seems like a sidegrade, not an upgrade. Another point is that I only picked this cooler because almost everything was out of stock.
Consider yourself as a lucky man, You got a golden piece. This XT one is downgrade, and the old one is no longer in production. So enjoy those magnet bearings, brother.
Can I replace this with Lian Li Infinity mirror fans? The fans that comes with the Corsair
Yes
iCue doesn't work under Linux so it makes it useless. However, there is software called OpenRGB that does support it. To what degree I don't know.
Awesome video! Thanks for making it!
Which do you think is better af aio or ml aio?
ML AiO currently
Having a thermaltake 360 cooler and knowing how shocking there software is makes me think i shouldn't take risks in the future and stick with corsair as the 9 other fans and hardware i use are all corsair. I only went with TT because at the time of my build some 4 years ago there was little to no other choice when wanting rgb fans in a 360
So having said all this your review is fantastic, it's helped me decide on my next aio and it has to be this one with lcd and it all comes down to i-cue Thank you!
Awesome video Robey, was a quick subscribe.
I think you should add gaming performance as this is going to be the main use for majority of people.
Before long you'll have to build a PC to run a Corsair- 800 plus megs of ram to run it, why ?
is the pump any different?
No
be nice if they make one's without RGB. Molecular made the same you're just paying for more RGB and design of the look or look or if the CPU block has a screen built into it.
i took my corsair fans off mine and replaced with the lian li unifan on the rad and got so much better cooling
I thought icue only works with corsair fans?
So is the only difference between the XT and the non-XT the ML and AL fans?? They put so many coolers out with so many similar names. And I’m not a newbie. I’ve been in this game building almost 20 years. I’m well versed in air,aio, and custom loops. But man corsairs naming, frequent refreshes, and lack of listing performance specifications is confusing. I had to dig to find what elite xt vs elite ( no xt).
Yes.
No, they also (at least claim) that it has a new copper plate specifically designed for the latest AMD and Intel processors.
+ a new improved thermalpaste (which most people probably wipe off anyways lol)
for the people who have their corsair lcd aios installed upside down just edit your gif and make it upside down and apply its gonna show as normal lol, i know its obvious but i just wanted to say
I’m not a Corsair fan but am a fan of Corsair
are the normal ml fans better than the elite af fans in the xt aio?
For cooling on a radiator yes.
In your opinion would it make any real world difference for heavy gaming and work?
Am I the only one who feels slighted by Corsair? Shortly after purchasing this icue Elite Capellix XT and the extra LCD Display Pump, with all of this hype about future upgradability coming, Corsair decides to come out with a whole new better line of similar products which are far better with a whole lot of upgradability and hasn't come out with one thing for it in a year..
Plus, none of our stuff crosses over (if I'm getting this straight) to the new stuff and vice versa.
For instance - Not being able to use the new VRM Fan attatchment (even if I wanted to purchase the new hub) on my icue h150 capellix xt less then 1 year after purchasing is downright thievery.
Am I missing something here?
corsair sale you arm and legs i test corsair H150i LCD XT $300 vs cool master 360 i got 3c cool master lower than corsair 7950x chip
If 1-2% is heavy use of your resources then the user needs better resource management...
Lol, I was just thinking the same thing
Thats what the 16/32 core cpus are for, to run the RGB!
Exactly. I don't understand why ppl cry over resource usage.
I don't understand corsair switching everything to these af fans. I bought the corsair 240mm elite aio with the non rgb af120's and they are stupid loud. I immediately replaced them. The ml120 and ml140 are my favourite fans but these are just not good
I love the ML120 Elites. I didn’t notice excessive noise even when they are on max but that’s good to note for when we do a build with them later this week.
@@robeytech oh yeah the elites are fantastic. Definitely my go to. When you do your build get up close to the af fan at high speed and listen for rattling too. They don't have the mag lev bearing and lots of online reviews complain about the noise/rattle.
There's plenty of other options that's much cheaper than these!
As a H170i Elite LCD owner , the XT versions are not an upgrade when you have literally changed nothing except of some noisier with lower static pressure fans. One of the worst "upgrades" I have ever seen.
So equal stats to CM Sickleflows for over double the money 😮
For a good time update the icue software...
Corsair stuff are so nice , but why so many cables man, like there has to be another way for them like come on its 2023 😭
After my arctic liquid freezer ll 360 shows up tomorrow, I’ll never touch a Corsair aio again. Mainly because of price and really shit performance on their fans and middling or bad static pressure
I'm so glad I got 32 gigs of ram. I can have all my chrome tabs open and icue on while gaming lmao
in france, the 420 xt version is 400 EUROS !!! HOW WHAT WHY
Wow, 279 euro in Belgium!
@@nossy232323 wow bah t'as de la chance !
@@achaz_ I actually bought the CORSAIR H170i Elite Capellix (so the old version with the in my opinion better fans) yesterday for 249 euro :)
@@nossy232323 yeah the ml elite fans are better through radiators but tha af are better for airflow !
Right, it's big thing that sits "IN THE BACK OF YOUR PC". again, "THE BACK OF YOUR PC" along with all the wires and cords that sit back of the pc so they can't ber seen. I don't get what the deal is. Plus, both the RGB and the fans are being connected to one unit as oppsed to two seperate units like before or others still and you can connect up to 6 fans! It's great! So, what's the issue with it? Plus, if you showed the software or used it you would know you can change the image disply by 90 degrees each time for whatever positi0on you want. But you don't show how it all works or installs. Do you get paid by corsair to show this btw? Thanks...
those prices LMAO
as if such a small LCD that you look at for like 2 secs per day make such a huge difference....
imma stay with non RGB, non display AIOs for way cheaper
So they made a new edition, increased the price and downgraded the fans? Let's not forget that ML had Magnet bearings, that last forever. Compared to fluid ones that eventually die.
I love Corsair but in my 5000x build I have an NZXT Z73 AIO
So you have an even more expensive aio that has worse performance and spyware.
Lmao z73 stomps
@@shoto_9 almost anything is better than an Asetek pump. Especially the overpriced NZXT one.
@@TheSjuris as I said…… the z73 stomps