uhhh my SL keeps asking me about my depression. I almost feel like he cares about me, and i almost open up to him, but then he calls me a useless sack of shit and tells me to switch to sabot rounds. :'(
Hey man, I been following you for a month or 2, just noticed your viewership is not that high. It suprises me a lot, your content is of great quality. Great diction and voice, nice gameplay, and very informative videos. Keep it up dude ! Cheers
Now I remember, that one time one dude and I were driving a t-72.We drove in a desert and wanted to position ourself on higher ground.Then I hear an engine and call it out.We see north of us two Abrams and think: "This is it.We´re fucked" I asked if we want to fight or get the fuck out of there. He responded, we are the only thing holding them off to flank our team and that we need to fight. He takes out the first one and we only have half of our HP left. I think:,,Maybe we can do this!“ Then the second one comes and kills us, but before that my gunner managed to cause a lot of damage and a fire. Not long after, The second Abrams is also destroyed.
@@asciiCAT Yeah these are used a lot in the military. Choose something that sounds cool and then make it an an anagram of something so it sounds professional lol
Squad is one of the better communities I have seen and most people will support you when you try and learn. Personally I would recommend playing on a noob friendly server and just drive or gun tanks at first before moving into more challenging servers
If you need to hop into a crew, don't worry too much about your skill level. If you are low skilled, tell your crew commander, he will likely put you in the driver seat. In this position just listen to him, if he is a good cc he will give clear commands which really don't require any knowledge of armour to execute.
As much money as the game sucked out of me war thunder taught me a lot about how to tank and how not to tank, and that's been helping me greatly in squad. I got the game a few days ago and I'm caught off guard by how many people don't want squad lead/ don't want to use the armor. I've had more heli pilots than tankers, and for me flying the heli is intimidating af
Squad developers should put all these tutorial videos on their main website or UA-cam channel as a playlist, so that its more accessible for new players.
One thing i find is unfair to the Abrams is the loud engine in a lot of games, when in reality the turbine engine of the Abrams isn't that loud, especially compare to other diesel engines of other tanks. Sure in up close situation it might sound loud but every tank is loud up close. From far away Abrams definitely not as loud as other especially from the front, not to mentioned the loudest.
the game is not realistic at all tho with tanks. Like most of those shots if they penetrate would mean that crew members would be heavily injured or dead. Also if for instance most of "LAT" would be able to kill tanks from the side (even in one shot).
@@RiktigaFimpen last I checked an Abrams tracks aren't made of rubber, unless you mean the ground contacts which is widespread and common, though not where most engine noise comes from. The noise of an Abrams engine is NOT quiet. It is "quiet" for a TANK. This is still a sixty-fucking-ton war machine. It's not quiet. Tanks are audible in this game at a drastically reduced range than what you could hear them at IRL across the board, and the Abrams is no exception where it is audible from half the realistic range of most tanks alongside everything else. It is also just as audible as everything else in Theis game, the difference is the noise it makes is much more distinct, many a time have I confused Russian vehicles from each other at significant range, very rarely if ever have I confused an Abrams for a Bradley or Helo at the same distances. It is not any kind of unhistorical inaccuracy (tell that to the BMP-1's gun firing rounds multiple times as fast as irl.), It is simply nature of the sound it makes.
@@clankplusm To be particularly precise yes, the Abrams has steel tracks but it's the rubber pads that make contact with the ground as you say - hence the reference to the "quiter" sound the of the tracks, nothing about the engine noise. The Abrams is damn loud, but maybe less so than other vehicles on the battlefield. Squad has definitely got the distinct sound right. The accounts I've read/heard are from people who was either on the receiving end of, or, worked alongside the Abrams. Is it all true? I don't know, but things usually earn their nickname for a reason. I think the issue here is that the engine of the Abrams, generally speaking, is made up to be the loudest one in games. But, these are sounds made for a game that has to be tweaked and made right compared to each other - so what the hell do I know. It would however be awesome to see (hear) a real comparison between the Abrams and the T-80s engine. I'd pay for that !
Some clarifications on the noise generated by the engine, the Abrams has a higher decibel reading (By like 2) at the source. However the noise is higher frequency, and without getting into the science that I don't understand, because of this, the sound dissipates at shorter range.
I honestly couldn’t pay attention anymore when he said “be sure to always check with your gunner to make sure he has depression” That made me Roll on the floor laughing
Nice video. Practice makes perfect. Drivers don’t drive a tank into urban combat without “proper” inf support. You’ll be killed with little effort. As a veteran squad tanker (since v12). I’ve killed and been killed many times. Also. If you’re vehicle gets to 50 hp or below, RTB. A dead tank is a useless tank. The longer you stay alive the better. Map control is key. When gunning, every shot counts. If a enemy tank is on the move, you need to immobilize the first. What this does is: It cripples the tank from being able to maneuver. Next shots should be kill shots. If you’re engaging from the front go for the gun mantlet / breech. At first it can be a difficult shot to make but you’ll do some pretty good damage. Flank and spank is always good but make sure your shots count. I don’t agree always having the SL gun. Reason being: not everyone can gun. I’d rather have the SL drive or command. Now if the SL is the best gunner available, go ahead. If you’re on the MG, keep your rear and sides clear from AT - especially HATs. Btw if you ever wanna tank you can find me on FaT community Its_Jordan. Great video
if oyu have a 3 man crew having the SL on the gun is always a last resort, even if he is the best gunner, only if he is the ONLY half decent gunner. Controlling the gun, running comms and commanding the vehicle and potentially a wingman is frankly not possible. You may think you are doing well, but you are letting something slip through, usually directing the driver.
"A dead tank is a useless tank" this is underappreciated by most squadies. Tanks have a long cooldown which makes a dead tank a huge handicap for the next 20 minutes of the game. They also cost 15 tickets which can be significant. While RTB can seem wasteful and boring, it is way better for your team in the long run because it will only take a few minutes and costs zero tickets.
This reminds of of a game I had as a HAT on Fallujah. At the start of the match my squad set up on the MSR in ambush and took out a LAV, Tracked IFV and a wheeled APC all because they had no infantry running support or commanders paying attention to their surroundings. Later on in said match me an the HAT of another squad + 2 LAT's snuck up on a leopard and wasted it with minimal effort as it was all on its own, first shot tracked it then we just flanked from all directions and it didn't stand a chance.
Historically the abrams is very loud but the sound dies out when it gets about 50 meters away, High frequency(jet engine) sounds die out fast while low frequency ( Diesel engine) carries on
In real life the abrams is Very loud but the sound dies out fast when it moves farther away like 50meters because high frequency sounds like the turbine engine die out fast
Excellent video as usual, pretty much hit all the talking points. A couple of things not discussed is the tactics and minutia of each role that each crewman has to do and what they're not suppose to do. I've seen even more times I can count where an ill-crewed tank rolls off main only to die just as easy as it spawned. I've also seen a lot of times playing where an adequate crew do well or be lucky, then just as well be unlucky and die where actual military procedures could've saved them. Not all are applicable or needed but they were paid in blood for a reason.
Thanks fornthe guide, i had alot of time trying to learn tanks my self, as a tank role lover in squad game, I will find hard time making tank squad as the others gain experience with it :(, on the other hand i will fight more serious and experienced tankers in the game and that's owsome
Originally I absolutely HATED the Leopard sights but after I got use to them I preferred it over all the other tanks. The T-62 however is the most fun tank to use as it requires actual skill and pure teamwork to make it work effectively.
I'm an ex-M1 Abrams Crewmember when I was in the Army for 5 years... any teams/clans dedicated to tank gameplay? I hate that when I do hop in (rarely) I'm usually stuck with a guy with a hardon to be on the gun, but not good with communication for the driver.
www.rustyinplaces.org/ We focus on teamwork in general - the people who like to do armor are keen on communication, including myself. I'd love it if we got more armor crews in the clan :3
On that reflex missile, it can be a godsend if you feel like shooting someone across the map, as even if they are moving it can be pretty easy to get a hit
2 extremely important beginner skills are needed to learn RPG is ranging distance then knowing the markers on the RPG for different distances. Step 1: Go to Jenson's range and put a tank at 100m. Use the height of the main cannon and ground as reference for a common man's height. Anytime you see a tank, you have a reference point for ranging at 100m. Match that reference point to something in your RPG's reticle. It usually has a distance for 2 common man's height or 1. Half of that reference is 50 meters. Double that reference is 200 meters, so on and so forth. Once you have the range go to step 2 Step 2: Set the range of the RPG at 100m and shoot your rpg at pinpoint targets at 100, 75, 50, 25 meters. Keep in mind which markers on your reticle will hit those targets accurately. Since you already know the range of the target, just use the markers you just learned. Each RPG is different on those markers, tandem and high explosive rockets can vary on those markers. Test each RPG and take note of the markers Congratulations, you have now learned how to range using reticle reference distances. This this a starting off point into RPGs and also snipers
@@jungletroll3844 Russian bias started in WoT long before WT, and WG was actually possible to consider Russian biased. Gaijin is just FotM and everyone points and screams Russian bias when they get to be the golden boy. Hell, RU winrate heatmap is actually awful right now, they're bad on both sides of the 7.x flip.
Don't know if this was mentioned, but that Sabot shot to the turret ring of the Abrams for 50% damage is a glitch. It is acting as two rounds hitting it. Dev's have acknowledged and stated that max damage AP can do is 25%.
Must say I come from war thunder so it is really interetsing to see how squad handles damage models also a lot of modern tanks have the sight offset from the gun by quite a lot that is why the leopard shoots further to the left than the abrams it is becasue the sight is almost all the way to the left of the gun. Edit: fun fact the open top machinegun position in many tanks is only the loader's machinegun.
Longtime War Thunder player who migrated from V12. This game is much better than WT IMO for having fun in armour, difenetely recommend giving it a shot. Source: > 2K Hours WT. > 1K Hours Squad.
Oh yeah, when crewing, always make sure you have the repair kit out before getting in. It saves time when your vic is on fire, as you can get to work on repping the vic before it blows once you dismount. Remember, every nanosecond counts when your vic is on fire.
@@ballaking1000 You are so extremely right "sl" I am sorry for the inconvenience, may you be able to put a Forward Operating Base on "VCP" so we can get a Hesco Accommodation Bunker in order for us to spawn on "VCP" once again. I do not want to get "steam rolled" "sl."
@@rixce5706 No Private, VCP is too susceptible to Mortars. Squad 2 is going to post up at the group of buildings roughly 300 feet North of VCP. They will be on the lookout for any incoming vehicles from the vast openness of their base camp and will be setting mines along the bridges. Squad 6 is going to build a stealth FOB in the grassy fields between the two Northern bridges leading towards VCP from the enemies base camp. I will lead you all to the group of buildings about 250 feet South-West of VCP and we will be covering the Western flank for any enemies travelling South. Medics, I want you to remember your duties and stay with the majority of the group. AT's can venture out within 200 feet of me and I want every HAT to have 1 assigned rifleman so that they can resupply their rockets. I spoke to the 2 automatic rifleman's earlier and once they've reached their nesting positions; we will advance. As we move, I want you all in single file about 10 paces apart and crouching when in the fields. We will rendezvous at these locations to regain stamina... Hit 'Escape' Jimmy, come on... Now, when we regroup at these locations, we will have to sprint across these open fields between all the dunes and hills- same as before; I want you all 10 paces apart in single file but I want you sprinting to minimize exposure time. As we're sprinting, I want all grenadiers to have their smokes out and ready in case enemies start shooting at us, then we can quickly get smoke between them and us and will provide more visual cover for the medics to give first aid to those initially wounded. Once we reach the location I will drop down the radio but we will likely still have to wait a couple minutes for supplies as Squad 5 is first going to make 3 trips to Squad 6's FOB by those 2 bridges mentioned earlier as keeping the enemies North of the river is of utmost importance. Hey "zzSniperVIIcIIous69zz", you have about 20 seconds to switch your marksman kit or you'll be kicked and "h3adcrackka"- I'd rather hear the other squad leaders than the enemies national anthem!.... Any AT's, AR's or grenadiers want fireteam leads?
I've played many milsims but this is the only game community that uses the word "vic," I don't even know what the hell it means, only that it refers to some kind of vehicle and I find it very confusing. Say something more specific or don't talk at all. You can tell the difference between a tank, truck, IFV, and scout car right?
I don't know if this goes for modern times, but for the Tiger you'd set up your sights aimed at the bottom of the vehicle and then instead of sighting for the exact range, you'd go higher. That way you have better visibility.
Thanks (tanks!! :) ) for guide, have 2035 hours in game and a lot of modding in SDK\UE 4 - even i still learning new things. I guess next would can be the APC\IFV tutorial for the win ! Regards
FYI HESH is not a frag round in game. It is a direct copy of the HEAT used on the Abrams (according to SDK).Heat can be used anti infantry, but frag is much better.
Yeah, HESH is a bit weird. Although it may be a direct copy from HEAT it definitely FEELS like it works a lot better than it against infantry. In the real world it's also effective against buildings so it makes sense. I typically use it for room clearing and stuff like logis if they're a bit too far for coax. Downside is is that it travels REALLY slowly compared to AP.
@@MoiDawg There's a good reason why the HESH shell is slower! HESH stands for High Explosive Squash Head. The "squash" part is basically how the shell is malleable: it will deform and flatten itself onto a target (i.e a tank with sloped armor). When it flattens itself out, it detonates. This brings the full brunt of the shell's explosive power down on the surface (a normal HE shell would send its explosive power everywhere around it, when the explosive is flattened against the surface, more of the boom goes into the surface than away from it). This allowed HESH to basically negate sloped armor and cause a shockwave that would cause the interior armor to fragment into the crew compartment. Why does that have anything to do with HESH traveling slowly? Well, the faster the round goes, the less condensed the flattened out explosive will be (the flattened out explosive is called a "pat"). The pat will be tighter together if the shell doesn't impact with as high of a velocity, so the effect will be greater. Sorry for the long post, just thought I'd explain why HESH travels slowly.
Thanks for making this video dude, I don't agree with all the points and suggestions but I am definitely comfortable pointing my friends towards this video. P.S. Me and Chamberlain had fun taking out your chally with our 62 last week ;P
Should also probably mention the position of the ammo racks in each tank as I think it's one of the biggest downsides of the T-72 (its ammo rack seems to be in the front of the hull). I have practically one shot T-72s by hitting their ammo rack in the front.
The T-72 uses a carousel-type autoloader. This means the ammo is stored in a giant circle/ring around the turret basket. The ammo rack is basically center-mass beneath the turret.
If you play Warthunder or any sort of tank simulation games, then you might have a good chance at taking out enemy tanks. I mean, when I use IFVs against vehicles of the same or a tank, I always go for the turret or below it like its turret drives.
love the video, very helpful. Any plans to do one with the APCs? would love to learn how to use the medium armor and how and what you can pick fights with. Ie bradley vs btr and things of that nature.
i think people know that, but OWI just makes you compute everything manually, so there's no autolead or palm switch modelled for that you'll have to go to Steel Beasts or GHPC
Really wish that they got the abrams volume right, it's actually only very loud when NEAR it it becomes very quiet compared to something like the Leopard 2. Or just have the armored combat more realistic in general, as much as I hate the game War Thunder they do it MUCH better
I've had several games with above 90 kills, both as gunner in warrior, Bradley and BTR, and a couple of times as a 240b gunner in an infantry squad. I've never managed to push it above 100, 97 is my record. The most amount of kills i've gotten in tanks is around 60, and a shitload of vehicles..
The first time im being a crewman is when I joined a squad call ARMOR and I thought I’m gonna be a mechanize infantry but they tell me to drive the BTR. I started to get nervous cause I never drive anything in squad
Couple of things I dislike is , the range finding in tanks , I cant speak for others but the caf leo has an auto range finding , and will automatically input it into the system , so you'll never have to guess the distance or aim for drop , not to mention the view of driver , we have a screen we can see . Don't have to use the view ports , and a general dislike , a HE,HESH or ap round , should destroy all light and medium armor..
How did you get the leopard for a test drive? And I think I know why the missile does more damage. The so-called composite armor is built into the front of modern vehicles. With layers of ceramic, rubber and steel. The ceramic layer retains heat and the rocket is nothing more than heat. Heat, as you know, has a jet of hot metal unlike an AP grenade which is made of metal only. And hot metal, as you know, hurts more than a normal darts / AP grenade.
Im not sure why you say that the leo struggles against the t72. Leo bounces everything hull down. Long range, so long as youre competent with the ranging its extremely potent, you just have to play defensively. Wolf pack, tank carrousel esq tactics work best. 4 tank kill, 30 player kill games are pretty easy with a competent crew and good comms
Did you know that in real life the guy on the third machine gun Otherwise Known your gaming world as a tertiary Gunner he's actually the loader but of course the thing that Squad did meant that he has no choice but to be the guy on the 240 so the 240 is always operated which does make sense in a way saying that hey they asked another tanker to man that machine gun so that way the loader is inside loading at all times
Two things: first is that if you're traveling in different directions or following a winding road and not paying attention (ie having your map open and talking on command), the turret will stay stabilized to the direction your were looking, which may no longer be in front of the tank. This can make you slow to react since the majority of the contact is from the front. Secondly: it's loud and gets annoying after awhile. If we're going to be traveling for a couple minutes I usually turn it off so I don't hear the stabilizing and the turret stays facing forward.
@@MoiDawg I think he's saying that the Abrams being extra loud isn't consistent with IRL. The turbine engine of the Abrams produces a higher pitched noise which carries over a shorter distance than the low growl of a diesel engine, which goes over longer distances. The M1 is notorious for how quiet it is compared to diesel engine equipped MBTs.
@@MoiDawg I think a better way of saying it is that the Abrams is more recognizable and noticeable, it is heard from a shorter range but when you hear it you can't miss it. Far away a T72 is easy to miss, even if you are close enough to hear it.
Why does the ammo rack on the leopard, abrams and challenger cook off and kill the crew. The leopard and abrams have blow out panels, the challenger 2 propellant is in a highly insulated box so won’t cook off crew
Always when i go on the test range, the tanks can absord mutch more firepower. Idk but somehow they eat about 8 heavy tandems in theyre back. But on the modded vehicle test range the damage model is like in rest of the game, so "realistic"
@raider I do agree that most games have problems with making gradual inclines. Like most hills in squad, the hills are perfectly round due to the tool used to make the hill. However, I'm sure you can find the odd position that would make a suitable hull down position or even turret down position. I personally do not really play squad so maybe you're right about no suitable spots. I am mostly just commenting after watching a recent tank video from this channel and it appeared to me that most tanks would sit on top of hills when that appeared to me that there was good hull down/ turret down positions near by.
Overall great guide however: Should have put C.H.A.R.M and Smoke on the ammunition. Though C.H.A.R.M is AP, it is a different round due to the Challenger-2 having a rifled gun and is also why the Challenger-2 is able to engage targets at ranges up to 2.4 km in game as it's rifled gun and C.H.A.R.M rounds allow higher accuracy at these ranges. It's a CROWS (Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station) not crows nest, a crows nest is something else. Also worth mentioning that the Challenger-2 is balanced to go up against the T-62 (for some reason), therefore when the T-62 or Challenger-2 goes up against Leopard, Abrams or T-72 it has a huge health/armour difference and usually looses =( Again i have no idea why OWI have done this but feels bad man
I went back and forth on whether to add CHARM but decided not too. Good point! And you're the second person to mention "crows nest," and I'm honestly surprised I said that, as I don't think I've actually ever called it that in-game, since it's a CROWS... But apparently it's in the script! Good catch!
Hey great video! Would you recommend using one squad for one tnak? I guess so because one of your suggestions was making other crew members of the same tank fire team leaders (hope I am using the right term, some people seem to get agitated when I don't). I was thinking about pros for having crews of several vehicles in one squad, like better communication maybe, but like I said, I am very new to the game :D
It literally only has downsides, as the crewmembers wouldn't know which driver is referred to or which tank the heading is given from. Just let the 2 commanders talk to each other and the crews focus on their own situation. As for assigning fire teams: pretty clever, so crewmen can designate targets on the map too
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Hey Moi, can you actually upload the Excel document with the damages and penetration of armor please? Thanks!
“Frequently check to make sure that your gunner has depression”
and russian tanks has no depression
Cuz thats what good drivers do. They are allways there for you.
was about to commment this, ironical how in this case it's good to have "depression"
uhhh my SL keeps asking me about my depression. I almost feel like he cares about me, and i almost open up to him, but then he calls me a useless sack of shit and tells me to switch to sabot rounds. :'(
Roger that, ICD 11 and DSM-5 confirmed. CBT inbound.
computer users often find themselves victim of having a 105mm armor piercing sabot discarding fin stabilized round hitting their computer.
Nice reference.
Gunner, Sabot, PC!
@@_invencible_Why would you use APFSDS against a- oh. OOOOOH.
5:37-5:40 The letters mean: БР is armor piercing. БК is HEAT. ОФ is HE. ГТ/Т is machine gun ballistics.
Hey man, I been following you for a month or 2, just noticed your viewership is not that high. It suprises me a lot, your content is of great quality. Great diction and voice, nice gameplay, and very informative videos. Keep it up dude !
Cheers
Kind words, thank you!
Me reading this after 2 years i am so proud
People should really watch this. A good crew can make a difference between instant death and a few hundred kills
Now I remember, that one time one dude and I were driving a t-72.We drove in a desert and wanted to position ourself on higher ground.Then I hear an engine and call it out.We see north of us two Abrams and think:
"This is it.We´re fucked"
I asked if we want to fight or get the fuck out of there. He responded, we are the only thing holding them off to flank our team and that we need to fight. He takes out the first one and we only have half of our HP left.
I think:,,Maybe we can do this!“
Then the second one comes and kills us, but before that my gunner managed to cause a lot of damage and a fire. Not long after, The second Abrams is also destroyed.
2 tanks for the price of one noice
nice story
good kills
Posthumously awarded Order of Lenin
CROWS stands for "Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station". It has nothing to do with a crow's nest.
Great guide, learned a lot about tanks in Squad!
Thats called a backogram
Looked for this comment.. who tf calls it a nest?
@@asciiCAT Yeah these are used a lot in the military. Choose something that sounds cool and then make it an an anagram of something so it sounds professional lol
@@ufoash1066 Example: PATRIOT is an """acronym"""
I mean, its kind of like a machinegun nest, but more dangerous
“Remember, switching to your coax is faster than unloading and loading”
thanks for the guide! been dying to get into armor but just felt out of my depth when I joined experienced crews.
They can be intimidating but I'm hoping this makes them a bit more accessible!
@@MoiDawg just go for it
Squad is one of the better communities I have seen and most people will support you when you try and learn. Personally I would recommend playing on a noob friendly server and just drive or gun tanks at first before moving into more challenging servers
If you need to hop into a crew, don't worry too much about your skill level. If you are low skilled, tell your crew commander, he will likely put you in the driver seat. In this position just listen to him, if he is a good cc he will give clear commands which really don't require any knowledge of armour to execute.
As much money as the game sucked out of me war thunder taught me a lot about how to tank and how not to tank, and that's been helping me greatly in squad. I got the game a few days ago and I'm caught off guard by how many people don't want squad lead/ don't want to use the armor. I've had more heli pilots than tankers, and for me flying the heli is intimidating af
Squad developers should put all these tutorial videos on their main website or UA-cam channel as a playlist, so that its more accessible for new players.
One thing i find is unfair to the Abrams is the loud engine in a lot of games, when in reality the turbine engine of the Abrams isn't that loud, especially compare to other diesel engines of other tanks. Sure in up close situation it might sound loud but every tank is loud up close. From far away Abrams definitely not as loud as other especially from the front, not to mentioned the loudest.
the game is not realistic at all tho with tanks. Like most of those shots if they penetrate would mean that crew members would be heavily injured or dead. Also if for instance most of "LAT" would be able to kill tanks from the side (even in one shot).
Yup. That's why it got the nickname of "Whispering Death". IIRC its rubber tracks also made it less noisy.
@@RiktigaFimpen last I checked an Abrams tracks aren't made of rubber, unless you mean the ground contacts which is widespread and common, though not where most engine noise comes from. The noise of an Abrams engine is NOT quiet. It is "quiet" for a TANK. This is still a sixty-fucking-ton war machine. It's not quiet. Tanks are audible in this game at a drastically reduced range than what you could hear them at IRL across the board, and the Abrams is no exception where it is audible from half the realistic range of most tanks alongside everything else. It is also just as audible as everything else in Theis game, the difference is the noise it makes is much more distinct, many a time have I confused Russian vehicles from each other at significant range, very rarely if ever have I confused an Abrams for a Bradley or Helo at the same distances. It is not any kind of unhistorical inaccuracy (tell that to the BMP-1's gun firing rounds multiple times as fast as irl.), It is simply nature of the sound it makes.
@@clankplusm To be particularly precise yes, the Abrams has steel tracks but it's the rubber pads that make contact with the ground as you say - hence the reference to the "quiter" sound the of the tracks, nothing about the engine noise. The Abrams is damn loud, but maybe less so than other vehicles on the battlefield. Squad has definitely got the distinct sound right. The accounts I've read/heard are from people who was either on the receiving end of, or, worked alongside the Abrams. Is it all true? I don't know, but things usually earn their nickname for a reason. I think the issue here is that the engine of the Abrams, generally speaking, is made up to be the loudest one in games. But, these are sounds made for a game that has to be tweaked and made right compared to each other - so what the hell do I know. It would however be awesome to see (hear) a real comparison between the Abrams and the T-80s engine. I'd pay for that !
Some clarifications on the noise generated by the engine, the Abrams has a higher decibel reading (By like 2) at the source. However the noise is higher frequency, and without getting into the science that I don't understand, because of this, the sound dissipates at shorter range.
I honestly couldn’t pay attention anymore when he said “be sure to always check with your gunner to make sure he has depression” That made me Roll on the floor laughing
Nice video. Practice makes perfect. Drivers don’t drive a tank into urban combat without “proper” inf support. You’ll be killed with little effort. As a veteran squad tanker (since v12). I’ve killed and been killed many times. Also. If you’re vehicle gets to 50 hp or below, RTB. A dead tank is a useless tank. The longer you stay alive the better. Map control is key. When gunning, every shot counts. If a enemy tank is on the move, you need to immobilize the first. What this does is: It cripples the tank from being able to maneuver. Next shots should be kill shots. If you’re engaging from the front go for the gun mantlet / breech. At first it can be a difficult shot to make but you’ll do some pretty good damage. Flank and spank is always good but make sure your shots count. I don’t agree always having the SL gun. Reason being: not everyone can gun. I’d rather have the SL drive or command. Now if the SL is the best gunner available, go ahead. If you’re on the MG, keep your rear and sides clear from AT - especially HATs.
Btw if you ever wanna tank you can find me on FaT community Its_Jordan. Great video
if oyu have a 3 man crew having the SL on the gun is always a last resort, even if he is the best gunner, only if he is the ONLY half decent gunner. Controlling the gun, running comms and commanding the vehicle and potentially a wingman is frankly not possible. You may think you are doing well, but you are letting something slip through, usually directing the driver.
"A dead tank is a useless tank" this is underappreciated by most squadies. Tanks have a long cooldown which makes a dead tank a huge handicap for the next 20 minutes of the game. They also cost 15 tickets which can be significant. While RTB can seem wasteful and boring, it is way better for your team in the long run because it will only take a few minutes and costs zero tickets.
This reminds of of a game I had as a HAT on Fallujah. At the start of the match my squad set up on the MSR in ambush and took out a LAV, Tracked IFV and a wheeled APC all because they had no infantry running support or commanders paying attention to their surroundings. Later on in said match me an the HAT of another squad + 2 LAT's snuck up on a leopard and wasted it with minimal effort as it was all on its own, first shot tracked it then we just flanked from all directions and it didn't stand a chance.
still a tanker? XD
Historically the abrams is very loud but the sound dies out when it gets about 50 meters away, High frequency(jet engine) sounds die out fast while low frequency ( Diesel engine) carries on
YES! I have been playing tank a lot more recently so I have been wanting a video like this. Keep up the quality content!
Happy hunting!
In real life the abrams is Very loud but the sound dies out fast when it moves farther away like 50meters because high frequency sounds like the turbine engine die out fast
Excellent video as usual, pretty much hit all the talking points.
A couple of things not discussed is the tactics and minutia of each role that each crewman has to do and what they're not suppose to do. I've seen even more times I can count where an ill-crewed tank rolls off main only to die just as easy as it spawned.
I've also seen a lot of times playing where an adequate crew do well or be lucky, then just as well be unlucky and die where actual military procedures could've saved them. Not all are applicable or needed but they were paid in blood for a reason.
I LOVE your guides. They really finally make me learn something about the game after 40+ hours of gameplay where I had no idea what I was doing!
Thanks fornthe guide, i had alot of time trying to learn tanks my self, as a tank role lover in squad game, I will find hard time making tank squad as the others gain experience with it :(, on the other hand i will fight more serious and experienced tankers in the game and that's owsome
It's definitely a hard role to learn but the more you spend in the tank the better you get. Good luck!
Have about 300hrs and I have neglected all armor vehcs thank u for this vid
Originally I absolutely HATED the Leopard sights but after I got use to them I preferred it over all the other tanks. The T-62 however is the most fun tank to use as it requires actual skill and pure teamwork to make it work effectively.
I'm an ex-M1 Abrams Crewmember when I was in the Army for 5 years... any teams/clans dedicated to tank gameplay? I hate that when I do hop in (rarely) I'm usually stuck with a guy with a hardon to be on the gun, but not good with communication for the driver.
www.rustyinplaces.org/
We focus on teamwork in general - the people who like to do armor are keen on communication, including myself. I'd love it if we got more armor crews in the clan :3
@@glavemaster looks like you guys are EU, no?
On that reflex missile, it can be a godsend if you feel like shooting someone across the map, as even if they are moving it can be pretty easy to get a hit
2 extremely important beginner skills are needed to learn RPG is ranging distance then knowing the markers on the RPG for different distances.
Step 1: Go to Jenson's range and put a tank at 100m. Use the height of the main cannon and ground as reference for a common man's height. Anytime you see a tank, you have a reference point for ranging at 100m. Match that reference point to something in your RPG's reticle. It usually has a distance for 2 common man's height or 1. Half of that reference is 50 meters. Double that reference is 200 meters, so on and so forth. Once you have the range go to step 2
Step 2: Set the range of the RPG at 100m and shoot your rpg at pinpoint targets at 100, 75, 50, 25 meters. Keep in mind which markers on your reticle will hit those targets accurately. Since you already know the range of the target, just use the markers you just learned. Each RPG is different on those markers, tandem and high explosive rockets can vary on those markers. Test each RPG and take note of the markers
Congratulations, you have now learned how to range using reticle reference distances. This this a starting off point into RPGs and also snipers
11:00 Western tanks usually have more depression... because of the Russian bias is just beating them down
What Russian bias? This game is BLUFOR biased if anything
@@clankplusm you didnt get the joke ...
@@clankplusm its a war thunder meme. Russian tanks are cheap and good in that game compared to everything else
@@jungletroll3844 Russian bias started in WoT long before WT, and WG was actually possible to consider Russian biased. Gaijin is just FotM and everyone points and screams Russian bias when they get to be the golden boy.
Hell, RU winrate heatmap is actually awful right now, they're bad on both sides of the 7.x flip.
@@clankplusm fair enough. i learned something new today
Don't know if this was mentioned, but that Sabot shot to the turret ring of the Abrams for 50% damage is a glitch. It is acting as two rounds hitting it. Dev's have acknowledged and stated that max damage AP can do is 25%.
great video man. I never knew close to turret was most tanks weakness.
@MoiDawg will you be doing an IFV and light vehicle video as well (for the Bradley, BMP-1/-2, as well as TOW vehicles)?
Principles are the same so a separate video is not really worth it, hop on the range, drive it around and learn the gun and you are set.
Must say I come from war thunder so it is really interetsing to see how squad handles damage models also a lot of modern tanks have the sight offset from the gun by quite a lot that is why the leopard shoots further to the left than the abrams it is becasue the sight is almost all the way to the left of the gun.
Edit: fun fact the open top machinegun position in many tanks is only the loader's machinegun.
Longtime War Thunder player who migrated from V12. This game is much better than WT IMO for having fun in armour, difenetely recommend giving it a shot. Source:
> 2K Hours WT.
> 1K Hours Squad.
same lol and i have drove a leo irl so i'm looking forward to driving it in game when i get the game tonight
Oh yeah, when crewing, always make sure you have the repair kit out before getting in. It saves time when your vic is on fire, as you can get to work on repping the vic before it blows once you dismount. Remember, every nanosecond counts when your vic is on fire.
Not always true, i had times i wished my gun was out
Man you are so hardcore; saving nanoseconds with "vic"
@@ballaking1000 You are so extremely right "sl" I am sorry for the inconvenience, may you be able to put a Forward Operating Base on "VCP" so we can get a Hesco Accommodation Bunker in order for us to spawn on "VCP" once again. I do not want to get "steam rolled" "sl."
@@rixce5706 No Private, VCP is too susceptible to Mortars. Squad 2 is going to post up at the group of buildings roughly 300 feet North of VCP. They will be on the lookout for any incoming vehicles from the vast openness of their base camp and will be setting mines along the bridges. Squad 6 is going to build a stealth FOB in the grassy fields between the two Northern bridges leading towards VCP from the enemies base camp. I will lead you all to the group of buildings about 250 feet South-West of VCP and we will be covering the Western flank for any enemies travelling South.
Medics, I want you to remember your duties and stay with the majority of the group. AT's can venture out within 200 feet of me and I want every HAT to have 1 assigned rifleman so that they can resupply their rockets. I spoke to the 2 automatic rifleman's earlier and once they've reached their nesting positions; we will advance. As we move, I want you all in single file about 10 paces apart and crouching when in the fields. We will rendezvous at these locations to regain stamina... Hit 'Escape' Jimmy, come on... Now, when we regroup at these locations, we will have to sprint across these open fields between all the dunes and hills- same as before; I want you all 10 paces apart in single file but I want you sprinting to minimize exposure time. As we're sprinting, I want all grenadiers to have their smokes out and ready in case enemies start shooting at us, then we can quickly get smoke between them and us and will provide more visual cover for the medics to give first aid to those initially wounded. Once we reach the location I will drop down the radio but we will likely still have to wait a couple minutes for supplies as Squad 5 is first going to make 3 trips to Squad 6's FOB by those 2 bridges mentioned earlier as keeping the enemies North of the river is of utmost importance.
Hey "zzSniperVIIcIIous69zz", you have about 20 seconds to switch your marksman kit or you'll be kicked and "h3adcrackka"- I'd rather hear the other squad leaders than the enemies national anthem!.... Any AT's, AR's or grenadiers want fireteam leads?
I've played many milsims but this is the only game community that uses the word "vic," I don't even know what the hell it means, only that it refers to some kind of vehicle and I find it very confusing. Say something more specific or don't talk at all. You can tell the difference between a tank, truck, IFV, and scout car right?
Amazing! I check every day if you did the second part
Love your tutorial series. I hope we can get a new guide from you soon.
Hey Thats Me In the Video!
Please do updates on there Guide and Tutorial Videos....I use there for our Clan to gain grabs of knowledge how much goes into individual ROLES!
Absolutely LOVE your tank videos!! Much thanks! I've recently started experimenting with tanks and I"m glad I watched this video! :D
Nice! Thanks for this vid! Keep up the good work
This is the Bible for Tankers
I don't know if this goes for modern times, but for the Tiger you'd set up your sights aimed at the bottom of the vehicle and then instead of sighting for the exact range, you'd go higher. That way you have better visibility.
I've seen this video several times as a review to play as tank when I have the opportunity in Squad games
great vid there. looking forward to the second one:)
I needed this soooo badly.
This was a perfect video bro.
I'll be honest i always thought the Leopard's gunner sight was the most straightforward and easy to understand, and is my preferred vehicle
Thanks (tanks!! :) ) for guide, have 2035 hours in game and a lot of modding in SDK\UE 4 - even i still learning new things.
I guess next would can be the APC\IFV tutorial for the win !
Regards
14:50 that is inaccurate irl abrams is actually really quite compared to other tanks from far but at close range abrams is louder then other tanks
what?
@@inkozebadigbadig37 The turbine engine is louder than other tanks' diesel engines only when close. Further away the Abrams' turbine is quieter.
Thanks for another great guide
FYI HESH is not a frag round in game. It is a direct copy of the HEAT used on the Abrams (according to SDK).Heat can be used anti infantry, but frag is much better.
Yeah, HESH is a bit weird. Although it may be a direct copy from HEAT it definitely FEELS like it works a lot better than it against infantry. In the real world it's also effective against buildings so it makes sense.
I typically use it for room clearing and stuff like logis if they're a bit too far for coax. Downside is is that it travels REALLY slowly compared to AP.
@@MoiDawg There's a good reason why the HESH shell is slower!
HESH stands for High Explosive Squash Head. The "squash" part is basically how the shell is malleable: it will deform and flatten itself onto a target (i.e a tank with sloped armor). When it flattens itself out, it detonates. This brings the full brunt of the shell's explosive power down on the surface (a normal HE shell would send its explosive power everywhere around it, when the explosive is flattened against the surface, more of the boom goes into the surface than away from it). This allowed HESH to basically negate sloped armor and cause a shockwave that would cause the interior armor to fragment into the crew compartment.
Why does that have anything to do with HESH traveling slowly? Well, the faster the round goes, the less condensed the flattened out explosive will be (the flattened out explosive is called a "pat"). The pat will be tighter together if the shell doesn't impact with as high of a velocity, so the effect will be greater.
Sorry for the long post, just thought I'd explain why HESH travels slowly.
@@bluntcabbage6042 Awesome explanation, thanks!
2:32
You mean
Armor Piercing fin Stablized Discarding Sabot
APFSDS
rayo toxi well duh but in a battle no one is gonna take time to say APFSDS Depleted uranium Sabot round, it’s easier to say ap or sabot
APFSDS-T Accualy, but I don't think they have the T in game lmao
I need you to make a video like this for absolutely everything in squad please and thanks
Him saying to use heat rounds for light vehicles but I’m over here using it for infantry
Thanks for making this video dude, I don't agree with all the points and suggestions but I am definitely comfortable pointing my friends towards this video. P.S. Me and Chamberlain had fun taking out your chally with our 62 last week ;P
Excellent guide, great job!
Should also probably mention the position of the ammo racks in each tank as I think it's one of the biggest downsides of the T-72 (its ammo rack seems to be in the front of the hull). I have practically one shot T-72s by hitting their ammo rack in the front.
The T-72 uses a carousel-type autoloader. This means the ammo is stored in a giant circle/ring around the turret basket. The ammo rack is basically center-mass beneath the turret.
If you play Warthunder or any sort of tank simulation games, then you might have a good chance at taking out enemy tanks.
I mean, when I use IFVs against vehicles of the same or a tank, I always go for the turret or below it like its turret drives.
love the video, very helpful. Any plans to do one with the APCs? would love to learn how to use the medium armor and how and what you can pick fights with. Ie bradley vs btr and things of that nature.
I like it, good job , l hope you make a lot of this video in the future
Thank you, comrade!
Irl tanks have thermal imaging,they zero themselves and by how fast the turret moving they can determine the lead needed on the target you lased
i think people know that, but OWI just makes you compute everything manually, so there's no autolead or palm switch modelled
for that you'll have to go to Steel Beasts or GHPC
Really wish that they got the abrams volume right, it's actually only very loud when NEAR it it becomes very quiet compared to something like the Leopard 2. Or just have the armored combat more realistic in general, as much as I hate the game War Thunder they do it MUCH better
I've had several games with above 90 kills, both as gunner in warrior, Bradley and BTR, and a couple of times as a 240b gunner in an infantry squad. I've never managed to push it above 100, 97 is my record. The most amount of kills i've gotten in tanks is around 60, and a shitload of vehicles..
The first time im being a crewman is when I joined a squad call ARMOR and I thought I’m gonna be a mechanize infantry but they tell me to drive the BTR. I started to get nervous cause I never drive anything in squad
Fun fact, the T-62 (an by extension, most diesel russian tanks) dont have a wide engine. They have the engine sideways.
This has been a feature since the T-44…
Very well made! Do more tutorials like this.
This is really helpful as I want to buy squad and become a tank gunner!
M1A1 engines are called jet engines is because they're jet engines, Its a Gas Turbine engine the same type that are in jets.
The Sacred Squad Texts!
Crows is actually an acronym for Crew Remote Operated Weapons System :)
I die from LATs and HATs more then enemy vehicles. Still experimenting with strategies to avoid that but it's hard on maps with woodlands.
that was outstandingly informative.
Couple of things I dislike is , the range finding in tanks , I cant speak for others but the caf leo has an auto range finding , and will automatically input it into the system , so you'll never have to guess the distance or aim for drop , not to mention the view of driver , we have a screen we can see . Don't have to use the view ports , and a general dislike , a HE,HESH or ap round , should destroy all light and medium armor..
Idk why the Abrams in game is so loud, that's not realistic at all.
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Infact , the critical misconception of Abrams is being loud.
It will be silenced than a lodgie if you stand in front of Abrams.
APCS AND IFVS Next!!
Awesome fucking video man, T-72 MASTER RACE!!!
Loving the content! Do you think you could do a mortar guide soon?
How did you get the leopard for a test drive?
And I think I know why the missile does more damage. The so-called composite armor is built into the front of modern vehicles. With layers of ceramic, rubber and steel. The ceramic layer retains heat and the rocket is nothing more than heat. Heat, as you know, has a jet of hot metal unlike an AP grenade which is made of metal only. And hot metal, as you know, hurts more than a normal darts / AP grenade.
If you go into the training range, press ~ to open the console and type "adminchangemap caf_jensens_range_v4" and press enter. It will change to it!
@@MoiDawg Thanks
helped a lot, thx
👍
I've mastered shooting down heli's with the T72's missile
Im not sure why you say that the leo struggles against the t72. Leo bounces everything hull down. Long range, so long as youre competent with the ranging its extremely potent, you just have to play defensively. Wolf pack, tank carrousel esq tactics work best. 4 tank kill, 30 player kill games are pretty easy with a competent crew and good comms
I hate how the bottom of the abrams main gun sight's vertical line is skewed off to the right
remember to frequently check that your gunner has depression
Can you please make a similar video about the bmp btr Bradley warrior Stryker ....
I ate some greek yogurt with honey and blueberries
That sounds awesome
Did you know that in real life the guy on the third machine gun Otherwise Known your gaming world as a tertiary Gunner he's actually the loader but of course the thing that Squad did meant that he has no choice but to be the guy on the 240 so the 240 is always operated which does make sense in a way saying that hey they asked another tanker to man that machine gun so that way the loader is inside loading at all times
Everyone uses tanks to destroy another tanks
Me : imma just earrape those infantries with frag rounds
I had no idea you could ducking range the leopard
So what's the downside to stabilization? The way I understand it there really is no reason whatsoever to NOT have it on.
Two things: first is that if you're traveling in different directions or following a winding road and not paying attention (ie having your map open and talking on command), the turret will stay stabilized to the direction your were looking, which may no longer be in front of the tank. This can make you slow to react since the majority of the contact is from the front.
Secondly: it's loud and gets annoying after awhile.
If we're going to be traveling for a couple minutes I usually turn it off so I don't hear the stabilizing and the turret stays facing forward.
@@MoiDawg Nice, appreciated.
MoiDawg the sound has now been rid of until they figure out how to make it less annoying.
I would love to be able to see those spreadsheets if they’re available.
I like these tutorial videos
Wait, the Abrams is the loudest tank while the T-62 is the quietest? That doesn't sound right.
The T-62's engine is a slight rumble compared to the jet engine of the Abrams. Really easy to hear.
@@MoiDawg I think he's saying that the Abrams being extra loud isn't consistent with IRL. The turbine engine of the Abrams produces a higher pitched noise which carries over a shorter distance than the low growl of a diesel engine, which goes over longer distances. The M1 is notorious for how quiet it is compared to diesel engine equipped MBTs.
@@MoiDawg I think a better way of saying it is that the Abrams is more recognizable and noticeable, it is heard from a shorter range but when you hear it you can't miss it. Far away a T72 is easy to miss, even if you are close enough to hear it.
Why does the ammo rack on the leopard, abrams and challenger cook off and kill the crew. The leopard and abrams have blow out panels, the challenger 2 propellant is in a highly insulated box so won’t cook off crew
god damn you teach much better than my professor...
11:00 man my gunner cant do this anymore what do i do
Always when i go on the test range, the tanks can absord mutch more firepower. Idk but somehow they eat about 8 heavy tandems in theyre back. But on the modded vehicle test range the damage model is like in rest of the game, so "realistic"
the local/offline test range has completely wrong damage models, that's been a bug for a long time now and isn't a high priority one
holy moly
RIP a tank guide with no mention of hull down, turret down (Sights down), hide position or berm drills.
@raider I do agree that most games have problems with making gradual inclines. Like most hills in squad, the hills are perfectly round due to the tool used to make the hill. However, I'm sure you can find the odd position that would make a suitable hull down position or even turret down position.
I personally do not really play squad so maybe you're right about no suitable spots. I am mostly just commenting after watching a recent tank video from this channel and it appeared to me that most tanks would sit on top of hills when that appeared to me that there was good hull down/ turret down positions near by.
Overall great guide however:
Should have put C.H.A.R.M and Smoke on the ammunition.
Though C.H.A.R.M is AP, it is a different round due to the Challenger-2 having a rifled gun and is also why the Challenger-2 is able to engage targets at ranges up to 2.4 km in game as it's rifled gun and C.H.A.R.M rounds allow higher accuracy at these ranges.
It's a CROWS (Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station) not crows nest, a crows nest is something else.
Also worth mentioning that the Challenger-2 is balanced to go up against the T-62 (for some reason), therefore when the T-62 or Challenger-2 goes up against Leopard, Abrams or T-72 it has a huge health/armour difference and usually looses =( Again i have no idea why OWI have done this but feels bad man
I went back and forth on whether to add CHARM but decided not too. Good point!
And you're the second person to mention "crows nest," and I'm honestly surprised I said that, as I don't think I've actually ever called it that in-game, since it's a CROWS... But apparently it's in the script! Good catch!
All tanks have the same health.
T-62 just reload slower and CR2, like IRL, have shitty lfp/obvious weakspots.
@@MoiDawg TBF sounded like a slip but like I said its a great guide and goes in depth unlike any other ones I've seen, so really good job!
Hey great video!
Would you recommend using one squad for one tnak?
I guess so because one of your suggestions was making other crew members of the same tank fire team leaders (hope I am using the right term, some people seem to get agitated when I don't).
I was thinking about pros for having crews of several vehicles in one squad, like better communication maybe, but like I said, I am very new to the game :D
It literally only has downsides, as the crewmembers wouldn't know which driver is referred to or which tank the heading is given from. Just let the 2 commanders talk to each other and the crews focus on their own situation.
As for assigning fire teams: pretty clever, so crewmen can designate targets on the map too
Why did they go with T-72B3, rather than T-72B4 that has h-k IRL?