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I have a 2008 E61 525i N53 engine. Since a huge idling, I have changed all the spark plugs and coils and then injector on cylinder 3! The engine is still idling a bit rough when the engine is warmed and there is no error. PS. the engine is idling perfectly like butter when the engine is cold. Will the firmware helps? Does the EXPERT MEMBER means "join"? I do have K DCAN Cable and INPA system.
Mate, thanks very much for your videos and help. Just checked on DVLA and by putting in my reg number, my e60 was showing a recall. I've booked it in next week for the loom and wiring to be checked and replaced as necessary. They will also give it a health check and clean it inside and out. All free of charge! I bought the car a month ago and the car was in limp mode after a few miles. Got it checked and the vanos solenoid was showing as a fault. I've had my vanos solenoid replaced and a full service carried out now and the car runs like a dream but was shivering slightly during idling. That's what made me watch your video. Mate. Once again thanks a million!
Man, Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us all the time. I never knew that the small lines on the right of the tach were to show that the vehicle is cold. Thanks again Dr. Dean and have an awesome day from California!
I HIGHLY recommend Dr. Dean and his services! I can't imagine owning a BMW without ISTA D now. I will say I did this update, and in the end my valve cover did need replaced in order to fix the rough idle whining Squealing vacuum problem, which began to occur at 80k mi. on hot starts. A very common problem with these cars. (Mine is a N51 E90 2011 328 xi). I would say if you're having rough idle, try this update (my idle was always very steady). If you're having the whining squealing, its most likely a cracked valve cover or broken air/oil separator, either way you'll have to replace the valve cover. Quick hack: If you have a heavy suction when removing the oil cap during whining squealing rough idle, you need to replace your valve cover.
Yip, i just replaced my valve cover which comes with the gasket if bought from BMW direct, dont go buying the cheap Chinese clones as Dean has said time and time again buy BMW orig parts only. The crack seems to happen near the oil filler cap so check there. New valve cover for the N53 from BMW is £390ish non trade, ask them for a discount and usually you can buy for £340ish. From memory the torque spec is 8.5lbs on the bolts.
One thing is clear cheap parts and cleaning vanos solenoids will not fix the issue first video that makes real sense, I have seen seals on camshafts and timing gears, chains and eccentric cam solenoid motor causing the problem but, I would be following Dean's advice here long before you go looking elsewhere as this most likely this is where the issues are coming from. awesome video true expert. I wish I had met Dean before I tried it myself and got a few things out of step thankfully Dean has been able to help me sort it out many thanks Dean
Bruv.... I have done changed bout everything you named and still having an issue. I am so glad I follow you and came across this video. I'm hoping that this changes my whole life!😂😂
How evil are BMW dealers to charge for the software update and not do it as a recall, since they created this issue for customers. And you are right about how they treat people here at American dealers. Man it would be nice to be in UK and have some breakfast at the dealer lol!
I have subscribed to your channel because this is the most accurate video for the n52 rough idle. I own a 2011 328xi for 6+ years and these were the steps i had to take. I have a 9+ year old car and it runs better now than the day i bought it. Very informative and accurate video!
Your welcome and I’m glad this video has helped the many many people You don’t realise how many crook videos was around before I come along and killed this rough idle crap finally with the PROPER fix
Thanks for the very useful info. I've been having this problem since I bought the car. Can you please do a separate video on how to do the firmware update?
Yes that is my next plan showing the programming as i have a car im buying that needs full programming and coding the occupancy mats out please stay tuned for all this
I want to know too if he did the video! I have this annoying idle that jumps from 1500-1700 .. it’s so annoying , it’s very subtle but it keeps doing it. Wondering if the firmware will help.
great video. my car had rough idle since i bought it in 2009. and i read it was normal for n52. i lived with it bc in all other aspects this is such a great car and such a pleasure to drive.
Sir you just gave me pure hope again. I been working on my bmw 325i m52 Engine, I have “engine service soon” and have misfire recently and scanned the codes and gave me P1553, P1056, P0300, P0301, P0302, P303,P112C The “engine service soon” started about 3 years ago nothing have gave me problems I have cleaned the solenoids and nothing so I left it alone and move on until I tackle the problems again and I have replaced vanoss solenoid, camshafts sensors, and just now the spark plugs due to rough idle last week Tuesday. I been determined to tackle every problem to my first car I ever driven and work on as a passionate mechanic. I didn’t want to give up so I will try this sooon before I waste any more money at this point.
Yes do this urgently your codes are the exact codrs given in bmws sib and the update cures this get this done asap the car will drivr amazingly after you wont regret it
Great vid very knowledgeable as always, couple of things made me laugh, "it's raining here"looks to the right, looks left "it's raining everywhere" classic. "I won't rev it too high cos the oil pressure hasn't come up yet" lol. oil pressure reaches normal in about 10 to 30 seconds, the optimum temperature however does take some to be reached. No offence intended just sharing my homour.
jeezum crow!! I have spent the last 4 months almost 5 going freakn crazy tryng to fix this dam rough idle random misfire. I had cyl 1 doin NOTHING I mean NOTHING so I changed all 6 coils (because you, lol) glad I did and then x3 ran better but not 100% yet. Now its running like shit again and its cyl 3 that is useless.Prior to the coils I changed CKC Position sensor followed by Cam Shaft sensor then valve cover gasket meaning I changed valve cover as well as it comes as one unit after that I took manifold back off and replaced gasket(s) there as well, then coil packs as stated, plug, vanos, injectors , all vacuums lines are new and I even added extra ground wires to ignition coil harness and bought new battery. Finally today I thought there has to be some type of update or maybe I should have it tuned and then I decided to buy diag/coding scanner the Foxwell NT501 and then now I find this as im doing research ones again for my N52. Can I update firmware with the NT501 ? ty Im really hoping you I can cause im not paying 400$ to BMW from here that dont even take me serious (cause I look young) fuk them. Thnx for the help hopefully I can get the recall and update!
I’m writing this comment before watching the video so if what I’m about to say is mentioned in this video then I apologize but honestly I’ve only seen one video and one only that has mentioned this item and showed it. Two check valves located on the bottom of the engine that require a T40 (torque 40) to remove and clean the mesh filters on them, it’s called the cylinder head oil check valve (non return valves). Super important to pull these and check their condition, if plugged with debris and burnt oil then obviously clean them until they’re shining, these being gunned up will cause fluttering/rough idle. The video I watched the vehicle had no error codes thrown, no check engine light and the owner replaced the coils, spark plugs, vanos solenoids, etc as maintenance precaution when first purchasing the vehicle used. There’s a circuit board under the hood on the passenger side, make sure that the box it sits in doesn’t fill up with water, the drain holes can clog very easily and once they’re plugged the box will fill with water and destroy that board as well as the wiring too. I just had mine cleaned out, new circuit board (used but newer than my destroyed one) and new wire harness, Nathan’s BMW Workshop has a video showing this very process, honestly between his channel and this channel (BMW Doctor) you can’t go wrong, a wealth of knowledge between the two of them. The video showing the non return valve removal and cleaning is by Warp Drive M - BMW N52 engine rough idle. Non return valves cleaned.
Oh please mate do me a favour your watching videos to find your problem and your gullible to believe this crap from other cheap arse DIY youtubers and believe it please these guys don’t even know there arse from there elbow they all follow each other my videos is the real s**t
Hi Dean. I sent my car in to have centre prop bearing changed. 530d. E60. 05 plate. 231 bhp model. Now. I picked the car up it had a bad missfire. He showed me an ISTA critical level readout for injectors readout. Showing 2,3&5 were over the critical values. I admit I let the car get very low on diesel before dropping it off. So,..now. The prop bearing is fine. The missfire after putting £20 of diesel in and a full bottle of reddex started to clear. Still missing on one cylinder. My diagnostics showed up perfect injector values except for injector 3. Was showing + 5.1. Injector 3. After bleeding the injectors. Was bone dry. No fuel feeding to injector 3. I know it’s very possible I’ve dragged up some nasty stuff from letting the diesel get so low. What could be the reason that it’s cleared apart from injector 3. I hope you can help me bud cos I’ve spent so much money on this car. I don’t want to have to have a top end rebuild. Cheers.
I haven't checked my firmware Hardware yet but he's a hundred percent right I've changed everything from the spark plug the coils fuel filter fuel pumps relays everything I could change in this BMW I still get a hard start the only thing I haven't tried is what he speaking about right now I've tried everything else so he has to have some sort of knowledge about this
I've a 08 e92 coupe.. rough idle only started lately, it does sit at work all day and my drive home isn't far. I have a slow leak maybe from the gasket seals for a while, not sure what to do.. have a long drive this weekend, flying belfast to liverpool, praying it doesn't die on the way.
Yeah i know mate i tried to give as much info as possible as there is 100s and 100s of videos of people with tjis fault and they never got it rectified as i said in my previous videos everyone in the us always says vanos solenoids solenoids solenoids its all i hear and THAT is not the cause the reaeon the solenoids fail is due to the cable and firmware bmw loaded but people still insist on making videos saying solenoids for rough idle and then it comes back no chance!!!!! Bmw is my speciality i fixed nathans rough idle updating his dme and he has yet to see another one yet
Doc another suberb "no bullshit" video telling us like it is. If only i came across this video a couple of years ago!!!!! I've sold BMW'S in the past with these symptoms........if i knew this then........wow!!!!!! No brainer. This video is a 🍒
Your welcome mate thanks please reccomend this video as there is many many videos and not the permanent fix all to do with vanos solenoids and people replacing that is NOT the cause
@@BMWDoctor hello, I have exactly the same problem with my Bmw e91 320i ... when I solved problem with wire battery recall, with update I have to due next? Pls for any help...
It’s always good here when someone doesn’t have the rough idle problem it shows that this isn’t common on all cars only some and shows bmw basically chooses what cars to effect and not effect
Rough idle mate just affects the running mainly and just very rough running and people don’t like it if you got a n52 you will know how much of a big problem this is and a headache and nobody years ago was able to solve this issue so so many videos with all the same problem but no issue to resolving it until now
Hello and thank you for sharing this information. I have a 2007 BMW 525xi e60 that I’m have issues on startup. It will take two or three times of cranking to start at any given time before it will start (long cranks) after it starts it may or may not idle rough for a few seconds and then drives great. I’ve recently replaced all the coils, spark plugs, crank sensor, fuel pump and replace the intake VANOS solenoid as I was getting a code for the intake VANOS. Now the car will start perfectly at times and other times it will do as before. I’ve been reading everything and watching everything I can locate for this issue. I am considering removing and resealing the VANOS pistons but is skeptical about that may even fix it. Any chance that this firmware update could be the fix. Yes, and I had to replace a couple coils prior for miss fire codes. Any help at this point will be appreciated
Hello dean, I’m having this problem about 6 months ago, and the problem is that In my country Honduras, nobody can do that work and the dealer is too expensive, and my car have that rough idle, coil problems, o2 sensor problems saying the cats are not working correctly, and your video gave me another hope lol, but I’m not a professional with this kind of things and I want to know how can I do the same to my car, I really appreciate if you can help me, sorry for my English but my native language is Spanish.
@BMW Doctor, nice video. My car e93 n53 engine has a battery cable recall, will the dealer update the software after the recall fix? or is the software update something I have to do/pay for? I am having exact issues but its intermittent.
Great videos BMWDoctor I have a 2005 BMW 330i e46 I'm having an idle issue and no codes I replaced desa valve plugs coils cleaned the throttle and the icv valve but my idle still bounces do you have any idea what it can be, could it be that the firmware needs to be updated?
The best thing you can do for you BMW is use shell helix oil All gasket leaks stop, Engine runs brilliant and oil consumption disappears Car is totally different and a pleasure to drive again
Take your vehicle to a certified BMW Workshop or the dealership and get the firmware put in your car like he States it did work I had it done today in my car and I have not have any problem with my rough idle thank you BMW doctor thank you so much I was just getting ready to get rid of my BMW this save me thousands and thousands of dollars I really really really oh you thank you I tried everything I change everything and nothing stop my world for idle until I did exactly what you stated and it worked
Thanks for confirming the truth in the video. Not only BMW can do this, this is something I have done for many many people remotely without a issue. This is how my channel grew the way it has in under 2 years because of how successful I made peoples N52 with this update. So BMW you can’t trust them they mess up too many peoples cars putting the wrong update on
Hi bud massive 👍👍 to your videos so helpfull i have an 2008 e93 325i with rough idle on cold start but soon as i turn it off and back on its ok could that be down to the software update ?
Great, but I have a different issue. AC was working cold one day, the next day the two middle ac were hot while the other two were not that much cold but moderate temperature. What possibly could be the problem? Thanks
Does this works for the 550i 4.8 e60? Most likely my issue is with the car being in gear R or D while switch to N the car revs up all the way up to 1,200 and goes back to 500 but when goes to drive drops all the way to 450 and gets a knock noise
Hola Doctor, mire llegue hasta aquí porque tengo el mismo problema que describe y he cambiado todo tal cual menciona, mi pregunta es eso debo hacerlo con el ISTA la reprogramación, me podrías enviar el video que mencionas donde desconectas el cable de la batería, muchas gracias estimado. Saludos Rodrigo desde Chile
My Z4 E89 is on call back for battery cable. I'm seeing a low voltage for 5 odd seconds, idle rpm fluctuates. Then when volts hit 14 plus it stabilises. When my car was 3 years old they called it back for software update.
Hi Dean Would you be able to recommend specific brands of battery chargers/power supply for programing coding. I know you mentioned in your video that it should be 75amp as a minimum. Would appreciate if yoy can put links and recommend something that you know is good and works good. Thanks in advance
BMW Doctor - all firmware updated for my 2012 E70 with the N55. Cold start is fine but it still get an intermittent pulsing idle on restart after a 10-15 drive. If the vehicle is driven for longer I do not get the pulsing idle on a restart. There are no codes thrown, dealer and several tuners can’t resolve it. Thoughts? Thank you for your vids by the way. Helped me fix a few other items in the past.
Doctor Dean, your level of knowledge of BMW is above and beyond any one I know. However 13 minutes of the video was just repetitive information that meant nothing, and only 3 minutes was the information I needed to know which did help, but my advice is to keep your videos straight to the point address the issue with out the the full history off who did what and why and regulations whats not the problem, stick to how to identify and fix the issue in a short 3-5 minute video would be more ideal. Please i mean no disrespect of if any offence was taking by your self or anyone this is not my intention, thank you and keep up the good wotk
My friend this is one of my first ever videos on UA-cam and this is what made me who I am today I tried to go over the why this was happening this isn’t just about find your cause and fix it like many people do short videos and don’t explain if that’s ACTUALLY the problem The reason I did this like this is to explain to everyone and show them this isn’t a lie and isn’t fake I’m not your average DIYER up here just changing parts and being a parts fitter I like to explain what the cause of the problem is how this has happened The rough idle for the N52 was one of the worst problems out there on UA-cam before I come around and corrected it and many many many people couldn’t find the end to this problem until I come along In a short video I could not explain WHY this rough idle was happening WHY so many people had videos about the rough idle but never got rid of it permanently
Okay , how do I get the recall done ? And the firmware update ? MAF code comes out and misfire as well. car vibrates and rpms are shakey. Where do I get this “recall and firmware update” done? and how much will it cost. Please Helpppp!!
How do I get the firmware update on my E60, N53 engine. My battery cable recall has been done, (by prev owner). I'm experiencing some rough running and fluctuations in power etc..Also would a new battery help too.??
Have rough idle problem had battery cable recall had new injectors new coils new plugs nox sensors still runs rough when cold as soon as it warms up it’s fine drives well the car is e93 325 I 2008 spent a fortune still have issue
HI, thanks so much for this! i would be one of the many who would also like a video on how to program my 2007 530xi, what software to use. Thanks again!
Does this information apply to the 2003 z4 2.5i? This is the first bmw I've owned and worked on. Car has 134,000 miles and ran very well until a week ago then started w/rough idle,power loss and misfire obd codes. I like the vehicle and intend to keep it at least until the repair costs exceed the price I paid for it. Thanks and best wishes from the great state of Texas.
Good evening, BMW Doctor ! Please tell me I have a car BMW E90 Restyling, engine N51 234 hp American. Diagnostics cannot find the cause. Every time I start a car, it stalls and does not keep idle. It’s wrong that the gas pedal is ever slightly pressed for 20 seconds, then it works as if there was nothing. And this happens every time I start a car. Can you tell me if this was in practice? And I can’t even find the idle sensor. Maybe tell me where it is? Thanks in advance if you can help super! Your biggest bmweast fan is bothering you from St. Petersburg.
Hi Dean i have recently purchased a E61 523i (N52 I believe) the car is perfect apart from in the morning it has a rough idle that brings on the engine light but when warm it is perfect. I contacted BMW about the battery cable recall and they said my car has no outstanding recalls, do you think your firmware would fix this problem? if so would you please help or advise? Keep up the good work on the videos I am slowly working my way through them, many thanks.
BMW Doctor, have a 2010 528i E60 looks like my idle drops to much when warm, when I press the gas to raise RPM car is very smooth, but if I let off I can feel little rough idle or more of a humming idle! would a firmware update fix this? Great video by way! Glad I found your videos
Hello , I have a E60 N52 I could swear When I bought the car it did not vibrate. Took it to the dealership as an exception- for oil change and get their “inspection” Did the coolant flush and the brake fluid to get them to erase the cel maintenance My car was also approaching 150K miles Next day when I picked it up I noticed big vibrations entering the cabin just in idle They suggested I replace the mounts , When they were going over with me on the inspection They also know I just bought the car. But they dont know Im actually an enthusiast that had bmws before Do you think they messed with the firmware or anything else? I replaced the motor mounts and trans mounts and still get vibrations at idle when warmed up
I Have 2012 BMW 320D ED last week suddenly got vibration on idle ie at lights or stop when car is warm idle dial is fine just here vibration in cab on my left.car runs fine gearbox and clutch fine. Any ideas please.
I had my 2011 535i updated a month ago. My water pump was replaced a couple days ago now it's got a noticable vibration. No abnormal movement on my RPM gauge though. It seems to not shift as smoothly as well in 1st to 2nd downshifting in automatic. Any idea what this could be?
Hey, I really appreciate your videos. I’m having a problem with my 2008 328 xi “no idrive” I started having trouble starting my car a few weeks ago. The car wouldn’t crank, but after I disconnected the negative terminal for a few minutes and reconnect it, it would start right up. And then one night suddenly, I got a very rough idle while driving. My wipers were uncontrollable, and my headlights would go on and off. Not to mention a ton of codes on my dashboard. And then the next day my battery was completely dead. I got a new battery installed. Started the car just fine, within one minute the rough idle came back and all the codes came back. And car died again that night. A friend of mine pointed me in the direction Of my ground strap? But the more research I do the more I’m lost. Please help!!!
We are both lost here best advice your gonna need the software to fix this issue you cannot fix this car without it take my word I’m surprised you don’t have official software to fix this issue your problem would be solved and driving again
So you forgot to tell us, from which version or date the firmware onward got fixed? If you buy an used BMW, if the firmware in the car has been updated since the manufacturing, it doesn't automatically mean, it already has the necessary fix in it, does it? Obviously, if you are going to update it, you will take the latest possible anyway, but maybe it already has been updated and the problem lies still somewhere else?
I have a 2008 BMW 528i and it has a couple of surges while it's idling I changed the Vesa Solenoid both camshaft sensors and crankshaft sensor because it was throwing those codes what could I do to fix it this is my first BMW
Yup dealers here are a problem not only BMW but other brands. Had one fella told me his transfer case is not bad enough to to fix according to the dealer ( has a leak) . Another fella showed me won't name the maker his CVT trans. will roll backwards on a hill when he puts it in drive, no foot on the brake. I wonder why if BMW dealers are using ista-p is it for the money, but you can do it faster.
Lol thats what happened with me here i bmw i was working there for 5 years was using there software to flash all my friends cars and making money outside of them they took me to court trying to sue me
I need help with my e90 I keep getting a misfire on cylinder 5 and idle Jumps up and down... all plugs are new NGK laser vanso are clean and all coil packs are new and new fuel injector on cyl 5 and all the other injectors cleaned...
Hello Dean, how are you? Sorry to contact you like this, but I have a fluctuation problem in may. the car is a Bmw 535d from 2005. after watching a lot of videos and in particular yours, i think it is a problem in a torque converter. Can you make a video about this car in relation to this problem? How to do, what to change? Pars I can do. Thank you Denis Mariz from Portugal.
Please can you help,I have spent sos much money to try and fix my car......And still its not right,its has a rough idle when we at a stop street and when its hot....but when you drive its fine......what could be the problem.....
Hey just saw this amazing information! I have 2006 bmw 330i so I keep getting the code p0305 cylinder 5 misfire but I did all the spark plugs even coil packs and still has a 100-200 idle drop rough start ups and everything .everyone is telling me it’s the fuel injector etc etc and I’m over it I just want the car to run fine. So long story short will this fix it ?
Hey, how do you find out if the software is updated? Whats tbe bad version number pls? Im torn between injectors and update at the moment and a simple version number would help me choose which. 59 plate CCC E60 N52
Hey there Bmw Doctor, i have been having rough iddle, loss of power at low rpm and sometimes accelaration hesitation...went to bmw dealer and they updated software, it improved a little bit but problem still there. I plugged odb2 reader and found old code stored "P2A98", what's the next step? BMW told me car is fine but problem is worst during mold and cold days...thanks!
@bmwdoctor I just had my starter replaced. Since then I've had a bit of a rough idle. You say you can help update the firmware remotely? What do you charge for that?
Dean, thanks for all this information, I appreciate it, I'm sure others as well. I checked the recal cablel it has the white one so is done, that's good. Got it booked in with a BMW specialist next week Wednesday for a full update, 150 euros. I used INPA to check the modules and they were last updated in 2008, some in 2006. Will update my experience here when it's done.
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Can you please help me out with code P1415 on a BMW x3 3.0si 2007
I was told there is no update for 2008 528. Is there a way to get rid of rough idle and does that year have issue with battery cable as well?
Do you know what I can do to get my transfer case fault code to be erased? I did a flush and can't get the fault code to go away. Thanks in advance
I have a 2008 E61 525i N53 engine. Since a huge idling, I have changed all the spark plugs and coils and then injector on cylinder 3! The engine is still idling a bit rough when the engine is warmed and there is no error. PS. the engine is idling perfectly like butter when the engine is cold. Will the firmware helps? Does the EXPERT MEMBER means "join"? I do have K DCAN Cable and INPA system.
@@alexsandul5631 i got the same problem.
Mate, thanks very much for your videos and help. Just checked on DVLA and by putting in my reg number, my e60 was showing a recall. I've booked it in next week for the loom and wiring to be checked and replaced as necessary. They will also give it a health check and clean it inside and out. All free of charge!
I bought the car a month ago and the car was in limp mode after a few miles. Got it checked and the vanos solenoid was showing as a fault. I've had my vanos solenoid replaced and a full service carried out now and the car runs like a dream but was shivering slightly during idling. That's what made me watch your video. Mate. Once again thanks a million!
Man,
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us all the time.
I never knew that the small lines on the right of the tach were to show that the vehicle is cold.
Thanks again Dr. Dean and have an awesome day from California!
I always hated learning but this guy is different 🤙🏽
I HIGHLY recommend Dr. Dean and his services! I can't imagine owning a BMW without ISTA D now.
I will say I did this update, and in the end my valve cover did need replaced in order to fix the rough idle whining Squealing vacuum problem, which began to occur at 80k mi. on hot starts. A very common problem with these cars. (Mine is a N51 E90 2011 328 xi). I would say if you're having rough idle, try this update (my idle was always very steady). If you're having the whining squealing, its most likely a cracked valve cover or broken air/oil separator, either way you'll have to replace the valve cover. Quick hack: If you have a heavy suction when removing the oil cap during whining squealing rough idle, you need to replace your valve cover.
Yip, i just replaced my valve cover which comes with the gasket if bought from BMW direct, dont go buying the cheap Chinese clones as Dean has said time and time again buy BMW orig parts only. The crack seems to happen near the oil filler cap so check there. New valve cover for the N53 from BMW is £390ish non trade, ask them for a discount and usually you can buy for £340ish. From memory the torque spec is 8.5lbs on the bolts.
One thing is clear cheap parts and cleaning vanos solenoids will not fix the issue first video that makes real sense, I have seen seals on camshafts and timing gears, chains and eccentric cam solenoid motor causing the problem but, I would be following Dean's advice here long before you go looking elsewhere as this most likely this is where the issues are coming from. awesome video true expert. I wish I had met Dean before I tried it myself and got a few things out of step thankfully Dean has been able to help me sort it out many thanks Dean
No problem darren don’t worry me and you are gonna work together a lot I can see it buddy
I have a rough idle on 2011 BMW 535i. I have changed everything, what can I do to stop it?
Update it and get rid
@@BMWDoctor How do I update it?
@@BMWDoctor Do you have to take it to the dealership to get an update?
Bruv.... I have done changed bout everything you named and still having an issue. I am so glad I follow you and came across this video. I'm hoping that this changes my whole life!😂😂
No problem mate
any update? did it help?
Yes, we been up n running. 😉👌🏾🤙🏾🤘🏾
Did the rough idle went away? Car running good was the rough idle vibration went away everything good?
@@bmwoutlawwdelarosa73 What did you do to fix it ? I bet it wasn't no firmware update, or was it?
How evil are BMW dealers to charge for the software update and not do it as a recall, since they created this issue for customers. And you are right about how they treat people here at American dealers. Man it would be nice to be in UK and have some breakfast at the dealer lol!
I have subscribed to your channel because this is the most accurate video for the n52 rough idle. I own a 2011 328xi for 6+ years and these were the steps i had to take. I have a 9+ year old car and it runs better now than the day i bought it. Very informative and accurate video!
Your welcome and I’m glad this video has helped the many many people
You don’t realise how many crook videos was around before I come along and killed this rough idle crap finally with the PROPER fix
Thanks for the very useful info. I've been having this problem since I bought the car. Can you please do a separate video on how to do the firmware update?
Yes that is my next plan showing the programming as i have a car im buying that needs full programming and coding the occupancy mats out please stay tuned for all this
@@BMWDoctor Hi Doc.😉 I would also love to see the full process of updating the firmware mate. Looking forward to see your next videos.
@@BMWDoctor did you ever do this video?
@@martynclark7172 also wondered.
I want to know too if he did the video! I have this annoying idle that jumps from 1500-1700 .. it’s so annoying , it’s very subtle but it keeps doing it. Wondering if the firmware will help.
great video. my car had rough idle since i bought it in 2009. and i read it was normal for n52. i lived with it bc in all other aspects this is such a great car and such a pleasure to drive.
Mate rough idle is not normal at all on N52 if you have rough idle that isn’t good and I can tell you now it ain’t normal
my e90 is 2011 and has slight rough idle when cold only. I checked and no recalls for my 328i. cheers Dr Dean your the best!
I've done the recall I've had software update gone a bit better but still a rough idle help
Sir you just gave me pure hope again. I been working on my bmw 325i m52 Engine, I have “engine service soon” and have misfire recently and scanned the codes and gave me P1553, P1056, P0300, P0301, P0302, P303,P112C
The “engine service soon” started about 3 years ago nothing have gave me problems I have cleaned the solenoids and nothing so I left it alone and move on until I tackle the problems again and
I have replaced vanoss solenoid, camshafts sensors, and just now the spark plugs due to rough idle last week Tuesday. I been determined to tackle every problem to my first car I ever driven and work on as a passionate mechanic. I didn’t want to give up so I will try this sooon before I waste any more money at this point.
Yes do this urgently your codes are the exact codrs given in bmws sib and the update cures this get this done asap the car will drivr amazingly after you wont regret it
got my time scheduled to Bmw to recall will see next week; checking fueling and software and plus cable
Great vid very knowledgeable as always, couple of things made me laugh, "it's raining here"looks to the right, looks left "it's raining everywhere" classic. "I won't rev it too high cos the oil pressure hasn't come up yet" lol. oil pressure reaches normal in about 10 to 30 seconds, the optimum temperature however does take some to be reached. No offence intended just sharing my homour.
jeezum crow!! I have spent the last 4 months almost 5 going freakn crazy tryng to fix this dam rough idle random misfire. I had cyl 1 doin NOTHING I mean NOTHING so I changed all 6 coils (because you, lol) glad I did and then x3 ran better but not 100% yet. Now its running like shit again and its cyl 3 that is useless.Prior to the coils I changed CKC Position sensor followed by Cam Shaft sensor then valve cover gasket meaning I changed valve cover as well as it comes as one unit after that I took manifold back off and replaced gasket(s) there as well, then coil packs as stated, plug, vanos, injectors , all vacuums lines are new and I even added extra ground wires to ignition coil harness and bought new battery. Finally today I thought there has to be some type of update or maybe I should have it tuned and then I decided to buy diag/coding scanner the Foxwell NT501 and then now I find this as im doing research ones again for my N52. Can I update firmware with the NT501 ? ty Im really hoping you I can cause im not paying 400$ to BMW from here that dont even take me serious (cause I look young) fuk them. Thnx for the help hopefully I can get the recall and update!
I’m writing this comment before watching the video so if what I’m about to say is mentioned in this video then I apologize but honestly I’ve only seen one video and one only that has mentioned this item and showed it. Two check valves located on the bottom of the engine that require a T40 (torque 40) to remove and clean the mesh filters on them, it’s called the cylinder head oil check valve (non return valves). Super important to pull these and check their condition, if plugged with debris and burnt oil then obviously clean them until they’re shining, these being gunned up will cause fluttering/rough idle. The video I watched the vehicle had no error codes thrown, no check engine light and the owner replaced the coils, spark plugs, vanos solenoids, etc as maintenance precaution when first purchasing the vehicle used. There’s a circuit board under the hood on the passenger side, make sure that the box it sits in doesn’t fill up with water, the drain holes can clog very easily and once they’re plugged the box will fill with water and destroy that board as well as the wiring too. I just had mine cleaned out, new circuit board (used but newer than my destroyed one) and new wire harness, Nathan’s BMW Workshop has a video showing this very process, honestly between his channel and this channel (BMW Doctor) you can’t go wrong, a wealth of knowledge between the two of them. The video showing the non return valve removal and cleaning is by Warp Drive M - BMW N52 engine rough idle. Non return valves cleaned.
Oh please mate do me a favour your watching videos to find your problem and your gullible to believe this crap from other cheap arse DIY youtubers and believe it please these guys don’t even know there arse from there elbow they all follow each other my videos is the real s**t
you hit it rite on point with the firm ware up grade.
Yep i sure did sir that is the problem in its self which people are getting sidetracked away from
Hi mate. Your videos just get better and better. Thanks for this quality content.
Thanks vladi
Hi Dean. I sent my car in to have centre prop bearing changed. 530d. E60. 05 plate. 231 bhp model. Now. I picked the car up it had a bad missfire. He showed me an ISTA critical level readout for injectors readout. Showing 2,3&5 were over the critical values. I admit I let the car get very low on diesel before dropping it off. So,..now. The prop bearing is fine. The missfire after putting £20 of diesel in and a full bottle of reddex started to clear. Still missing on one cylinder. My diagnostics showed up perfect injector values except for injector 3. Was showing + 5.1. Injector 3. After bleeding the injectors. Was bone dry. No fuel feeding to injector 3. I know it’s very possible I’ve dragged up some nasty stuff from letting the diesel get so low. What could be the reason that it’s cleared apart from injector 3. I hope you can help me bud cos I’ve spent so much money on this car. I don’t want to have to have a top end rebuild. Cheers.
I haven't checked my firmware Hardware yet but he's a hundred percent right I've changed everything from the spark plug the coils fuel filter fuel pumps relays everything I could change in this BMW I still get a hard start the only thing I haven't tried is what he speaking about right now I've tried everything else so he has to have some sort of knowledge about this
I've a 08 e92 coupe.. rough idle only started lately, it does sit at work all day and my drive home isn't far. I have a slow leak maybe from the gasket seals for a while, not sure what to do.. have a long drive this weekend, flying belfast to liverpool, praying it doesn't die on the way.
You should have much more Subscriber! Keep up the great content. 👌
I know mate I do but thats how youtube is most people watch just want help but never subscribe thats why most the time I ask myself why I even do this
Great video. I have a 525i e60 2008 and has rough idling. Can you help me with a firmware updgrade ?
Thanks for very informative video. Going straigh to do the firmware updates 👍
Quite a bit of good info here not just on rough idol
Yeah i know mate i tried to give as much info as possible as there is 100s and 100s of videos of people with tjis fault and they never got it rectified as i said in my previous videos everyone in the us always says vanos solenoids solenoids solenoids its all i hear and THAT is not the cause the reaeon the solenoids fail is due to the cable and firmware bmw loaded but people still insist on making videos saying solenoids for rough idle and then it comes back no chance!!!!! Bmw is my speciality i fixed nathans rough idle updating his dme and he has yet to see another one yet
Doc another suberb "no bullshit" video telling us like it is. If only i came across this video a couple of years ago!!!!! I've sold BMW'S in the past with these symptoms........if i knew this then........wow!!!!!! No brainer. This video is a 🍒
Thanks bro!!!
I was looking for a fix for so long!!!!!! Finally it runs good. I subbed and liked the vid.
Your welcome mate thanks please reccomend this video as there is many many videos and not the permanent fix all to do with vanos solenoids and people replacing that is NOT the cause
@@BMWDoctor hello, I have exactly the same problem with my Bmw e91 320i ... when I solved problem with wire battery recall, with update I have to due next? Pls for any help...
I had rough idle for while. I changed all plugs coils and the vanos solenoid. Since then my problem has been fixed. 2 years passed no issues.
It’s always good here when someone doesn’t have the rough idle problem it shows that this isn’t common on all cars only some and shows bmw basically chooses what cars to effect and not effect
So happy my neck of the woods has done away with thee emissions tests thank goodness!
Rough idle mate just affects the running mainly and just very rough running and people don’t like it if you got a n52 you will know how much of a big problem this is and a headache and nobody years ago was able to solve this issue so so many videos with all the same problem but no issue to resolving it until now
Good morning will this repair work on the E60 N47 Engine. I have had the battery cable replaced under warranty. Thanks
Hello and thank you for sharing this information. I have a 2007 BMW 525xi e60 that I’m have issues on startup. It will take two or three times of cranking to start at any given time before it will start (long cranks) after it starts it may or may not idle rough for a few seconds and then drives great. I’ve recently replaced all the coils, spark plugs, crank sensor, fuel pump and replace the intake VANOS solenoid as I was getting a code for the intake VANOS. Now the car will start perfectly at times and other times it will do as before.
I’ve been reading everything and watching everything I can locate for this issue. I am considering removing and resealing the VANOS pistons but is skeptical about that may even fix it. Any chance that this firmware update could be the fix.
Yes, and I had to replace a couple coils prior for miss fire codes.
Any help at this point will be appreciated
I'm in Florida
Just got a 2006 3.0 si
How do I get the firmware update
Or what do I to update
Hello dean, I’m having this problem about 6 months ago, and the problem is that In my country Honduras, nobody can do that work and the dealer is too expensive, and my car have that rough idle, coil problems, o2 sensor problems saying the cats are not working correctly, and your video gave me another hope lol, but I’m not a professional with this kind of things and I want to know how can I do the same to my car, I really appreciate if you can help me, sorry for my English but my native language is Spanish.
My car is a 328i 2009
@BMW Doctor, nice video. My car e93 n53 engine has a battery cable recall, will the dealer update the software after the recall fix? or is the software update something I have to do/pay for? I am having exact issues but its intermittent.
Subscribed and emailed for the fix, thanks!
emailed you back sir
@@BMWDoctor hello sir, how can I contact you?
I love watching your videos man your awesome bro
You're simply the best!
Great videos BMWDoctor I have a 2005 BMW 330i e46 I'm having an idle issue and no codes I replaced desa valve plugs coils cleaned the throttle and the icv valve but my idle still bounces do you have any idea what it can be, could it be that the firmware needs to be updated?
The best thing you can do for you BMW is use shell helix oil
All gasket leaks stop,
Engine runs brilliant and oil consumption disappears
Car is totally different and a pleasure to drive again
Take your vehicle to a certified BMW Workshop or the dealership and get the firmware put in your car like he States it did work I had it done today in my car and I have not have any problem with my rough idle thank you BMW doctor thank you so much I was just getting ready to get rid of my BMW this save me thousands and thousands of dollars I really really really oh you thank you I tried everything I change everything and nothing stop my world for idle until I did exactly what you stated and it worked
Thanks for confirming the truth in the video. Not only BMW can do this, this is something I have done for many many people remotely without a issue. This is how my channel grew the way it has in under 2 years because of how successful I made peoples N52 with this update. So BMW you can’t trust them they mess up too many peoples cars putting the wrong update on
hi lads. lovely video, lots of usefull info, thank you, bought 2.0i n43 2010 some time ago, is there any way i can check if firmware was updated?
Did you do a restart between the 2 modes?
Okay, how can i update the firmare? (E92 325xi 2007 aut?)
Hi bud massive 👍👍 to your videos so helpfull i have an 2008 e93 325i with rough idle on cold start but soon as i turn it off and back on its ok could that be down to the software update ?
Great, but I have a different issue. AC was working cold one day, the next day the two middle ac were hot while the other two were not that much cold but moderate temperature. What possibly could be the problem?
Thanks
Gonna try this and if it works I'll definitely sub.
Will this kill my re-map? Subbed and luvin the knowledge
nope it doesn't my friend
Does this works for the 550i 4.8 e60? Most likely my issue is with the car being in gear R or D while switch to N the car revs up all the way up to 1,200 and goes back to 500 but when goes to drive drops all the way to 450 and gets a knock noise
Hola Doctor, mire llegue hasta aquí porque tengo el mismo problema que describe y he cambiado todo tal cual menciona, mi pregunta es eso debo hacerlo con el ISTA la reprogramación, me podrías enviar el video que mencionas donde desconectas el cable de la batería, muchas gracias estimado. Saludos Rodrigo desde Chile
My Z4 E89 is on call back for battery cable. I'm seeing a low voltage for 5 odd seconds, idle rpm fluctuates. Then when volts hit 14 plus it stabilises. When my car was 3 years old they called it back for software update.
Hi Dean
Would you be able to recommend specific brands of battery chargers/power supply for programing coding. I know you mentioned in your video that it should be 75amp as a minimum. Would appreciate if yoy can put links and recommend something that you know is good and works good. Thanks in advance
dean you are a breath of of fresh air fella ,, am coming to uk in march from europe in march i will drop you a case of wine ,,, red or white ??
Lol i dont drink wine mate lol dont drink at all
BMW Doctor - all firmware updated for my 2012 E70 with the N55. Cold start is fine but it still get an intermittent pulsing idle on restart after a 10-15 drive. If the vehicle is driven for longer I do not get the pulsing idle on a restart. There are no codes thrown, dealer and several tuners can’t resolve it. Thoughts?
Thank you for your vids by the way. Helped me fix a few other items in the past.
Doctor Dean, your level of knowledge of BMW is above and beyond any one I know. However 13 minutes of the video was just repetitive information that meant nothing, and only 3 minutes was the information I needed to know which did help, but my advice is to keep your videos straight to the point address the issue with out the the full history off who did what and why and regulations whats not the problem, stick to how to identify and fix the issue in a short 3-5 minute video would be more ideal. Please i mean no disrespect of if any offence was taking by your self or anyone this is not my intention,
thank you and keep up the good wotk
My friend this is one of my first ever videos on UA-cam and this is what made me who I am today
I tried to go over the why this was happening this isn’t just about find your cause and fix it like many people do short videos and don’t explain if that’s ACTUALLY the problem
The reason I did this like this is to explain to everyone and show them this isn’t a lie and isn’t fake I’m not your average DIYER up here just changing parts and being a parts fitter I like to explain what the cause of the problem is how this has happened
The rough idle for the N52 was one of the worst problems out there on UA-cam before I come around and corrected it and many many many people couldn’t find the end to this problem until I come along
In a short video I could not explain WHY this rough idle was happening WHY so many people had videos about the rough idle but never got rid of it permanently
You mention a power issue that should be fixed. Does that apply to the 2006 330i N52 E90?
Okay , how do I get the recall done ? And the firmware update ? MAF code comes out and misfire as well. car vibrates and rpms are shakey. Where do I get this “recall and firmware update” done? and how much will it cost. Please
Helpppp!!
Dean how about the cylinders 4,5,6 misfire? Do you believe this will cure it?
How do I get the firmware update on my E60, N53 engine. My battery cable recall has been done, (by prev owner). I'm experiencing some rough running and fluctuations in power etc..Also would a new battery help too.??
Have rough idle problem had battery cable recall had new injectors new coils new plugs nox sensors still runs rough when cold as soon as it warms up it’s fine drives well the car is e93 325 I 2008 spent a fortune still have issue
You need to be updated which I can do for you remotely
BMW Doctor that would be great
HI,
thanks so much for this! i would be one of the many who would also like a video on how to program my 2007 530xi, what software to use. Thanks again!
I don’t provide that info sir sorry about that but you can pay and I can do remotely thank you for your comment
BMW Doctor how much you charge
Does this information apply to the 2003 z4 2.5i? This is the first bmw I've owned and worked on. Car has 134,000 miles and ran very well until a week ago then started w/rough idle,power loss and misfire obd codes. I like the vehicle and intend to keep it at least until the repair costs exceed the price I paid for it. Thanks and best wishes from the great state of Texas.
Good evening, BMW Doctor ! Please tell me I have a car BMW E90 Restyling, engine N51 234 hp American. Diagnostics cannot find the cause. Every time I start a car, it stalls and does not keep idle. It’s wrong that the gas pedal is ever slightly pressed for 20 seconds, then it works as if there was nothing. And this happens every time I start a car. Can you tell me if this was in practice? And I can’t even find the idle sensor. Maybe tell me where it is? Thanks in advance if you can help super! Your biggest bmweast fan is bothering you from St. Petersburg.
Hi Dean i have recently purchased a E61 523i (N52 I believe) the car is perfect apart from in the morning it has a rough idle that brings on the engine light but when warm it is perfect. I contacted BMW about the battery cable recall and they said my car has no outstanding recalls, do you think your firmware would fix this problem? if so would you please help or advise? Keep up the good work on the videos I am slowly working my way through them, many thanks.
I have the same issue with my E63 630i (N53 engine). I guess it's the faulty injectors.
Do you have a link to the cord that had the recall I can’t find it or the part # and thank you I watch your videos everyday
Is the firmware necessary for the N62. 2006 750i, gotta rough idle cold start.
BMW Doctor, have a 2010 528i E60 looks like my idle drops to much when warm, when I press the gas to raise RPM car is very smooth, but if I let off I can feel little rough idle or more of a humming idle!
would a firmware update fix this?
Great video by way! Glad I found your videos
Did you find the fix? I’m having this exact issue
@@lukesmith115 I guess the faulty injectors should be replaced. They're really expensive though.
Hello ,
I have a E60 N52
I could swear When I bought the car it did not vibrate.
Took it to the dealership as an exception- for oil change and get their “inspection”
Did the coolant flush and the brake fluid to get them to erase the cel maintenance
My car was also approaching 150K miles
Next day when I picked it up
I noticed big vibrations entering the cabin just in idle
They suggested I replace the mounts , When they were going over with me on the inspection
They also know I just bought the car. But they dont know Im actually an enthusiast that had bmws before
Do you think they messed with the firmware or anything else?
I replaced the motor mounts and trans mounts and still get vibrations at idle when warmed up
I Have 2012 BMW 320D ED last week suddenly got vibration on idle ie at lights or stop when car is warm idle dial is fine just here vibration in cab on my left.car runs fine gearbox and clutch fine.
Any ideas please.
Sweet ! great video thx for ur honesty & help much obliged...
Does this fix also apply to an N53 engine in the e92 325i? Car has rough Idle, both hot & cold
Yes it does
I had my 2011 535i updated a month ago. My water pump was replaced a couple days ago now it's got a noticable vibration. No abnormal movement on my RPM gauge though. It seems to not shift as smoothly as well in 1st to 2nd downshifting in automatic. Any idea what this could be?
Hey, I really appreciate your videos. I’m having a problem with my 2008 328 xi “no idrive” I started having trouble starting my car a few weeks ago. The car wouldn’t crank, but after I disconnected the negative terminal for a few minutes and reconnect it, it would start right up. And then one night suddenly, I got a very rough idle while driving. My wipers were uncontrollable, and my headlights would go on and off. Not to mention a ton of codes on my dashboard. And then the next day my battery was completely dead. I got a new battery installed. Started the car just fine, within one minute the rough idle came back and all the codes came back. And car died again that night. A friend of mine pointed me in the direction Of my ground strap? But the more research I do the more I’m lost. Please help!!!
We are both lost here best advice your gonna need the software to fix this issue you cannot fix this car without it take my word I’m surprised you don’t have official software to fix this issue your problem would be solved and driving again
Does this apply ro the s85
from when is the newest software version for the n52 ?
So you forgot to tell us, from which version or date the firmware onward got fixed? If you buy an used BMW, if the firmware in the car has been updated since the manufacturing, it doesn't automatically mean, it already has the necessary fix in it, does it? Obviously, if you are going to update it, you will take the latest possible anyway, but maybe it already has been updated and the problem lies still somewhere else?
I have a 2008 BMW 528i and it has a couple of surges while it's idling I changed the Vesa Solenoid both camshaft sensors and crankshaft sensor because it was throwing those codes what could I do to fix it this is my first BMW
so you say my n53 on cold until reach 70 shaking because software problem? as everything in that car almost changed
This is true, in the States, BMW dealers only care about sucking your funds dry.
Hi dean whereabouts in the country are you and do you fix BMWs for other people thanks
Yup dealers here are a problem not only BMW but other brands. Had one fella told me his transfer case is not bad enough to to fix according to the dealer ( has a leak) . Another fella showed me won't name the maker his CVT trans. will roll backwards on a hill when he puts it in drive, no foot on the brake. I wonder why if BMW dealers are using ista-p is it for the money, but you can do it faster.
exactly you can indeed engine flash and gearbox takes literally 10 mins all in and fuel pump
@@BMWDoctor Like me back in the early 80's I took side jobs to cut the cost down until I got caught
Lol thats what happened with me here i bmw i was working there for 5 years was using there software to flash all my friends cars and making money outside of them they took me to court trying to sue me
I have E63. Mine is only bad first thing when cold. As soon as I run it a little is is perfect even when hot. Is this the same problem?
I need help with my e90 I keep getting a misfire on cylinder 5 and idle Jumps up and down... all plugs are new NGK laser vanso are clean and all coil packs are new and new fuel injector on cyl 5 and all the other injectors cleaned...
Can i use the same software you use and do the firmware update myself?
Hello Dean, how are you? Sorry to contact you like this, but I have a fluctuation problem in may. the car is a Bmw 535d from 2005. after watching a lot of videos and in particular yours, i think it is a problem in a torque converter. Can you make a video about this car in relation to this problem? How to do, what to change? Pars I can do. Thank you Denis Mariz from Portugal.
My car has same issue. nobody could find the problem. N53 engine 330i. I sent you an e-mail as well.
Please can you help,I have spent sos much money to try and fix my car......And still its not right,its has a rough idle when we at a stop street and when its hot....but when you drive its fine......what could be the problem.....
550i is a problematic engine there is no help for that engine only god can help you with that best advise get rid get the 530D
Hey just saw this amazing information! I have 2006 bmw 330i so I keep getting the code p0305 cylinder 5 misfire but I did all the spark plugs even coil packs and still has a 100-200 idle drop rough start ups and everything .everyone is telling me it’s the fuel injector etc etc and I’m over it I just want the car to run fine. So long story short will this fix it ?
Did it ?
Good help but. 😇😇
Hey, how do you find out if the software is updated? Whats tbe bad version number pls? Im torn between injectors and update at the moment and a simple version number would help me choose which. 59 plate CCC E60 N52
Spitting knowledge!!
Does the E90 N52B30 have the rough idle problem as well?
Yep it does mate
Have almost identical issue on my bmw e66 would this fix with firmware be applicable to my BMW possibly?
Hey there Bmw Doctor, i have been having rough iddle, loss of power at low rpm and sometimes accelaration hesitation...went to bmw dealer and they updated software, it improved a little bit but problem still there. I plugged odb2 reader and found old code stored "P2A98", what's the next step? BMW told me car is fine but problem is worst during mold and cold days...thanks!
Good video
My engine shake on idle. So i just need to update ecu, fuel pump ir gearbox software? Can it be done by myself?
Sorry for super late comment but just had a quick question. Do non i drive cars need the firmware update? I can’t find anything on it. Thanks
@bmwdoctor I just had my starter replaced. Since then I've had a bit of a rough idle. You say you can help update the firmware remotely? What do you charge for that?
Did doc help u update the firmware?
Dean, thanks for all this information, I appreciate it, I'm sure others as well. I checked the recal cablel it has the white one so is done, that's good. Got it booked in with a BMW specialist next week Wednesday for a full update, 150 euros. I used INPA to check the modules and they were last updated in 2008, some in 2006. Will update my experience here when it's done.
No problem mate your very welcome just remember to subscribe if your not buddy
Is it done and fixed the problem ?
Where is the update caveman ?!?
@@aimized1460 haha. Like poster said. No one ever says how they fixed it. Proof.