POLARIS VR1 BOOST SHOCK RE-VALVE! NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE IN SUSPENSION PERFORMANCE!
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Now this is what these sleds should be feeling like and should be performing like!
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Camp 4, always a great place to tune shocks!
you know it!
I got kicked off my sled on c4 right by camp 4 last night. Have all the hygear springs in for my weight but no rebound to accommodate it. Called southside this am and they were super helpful. They sold me used xcr shocks valved for my weight and said they will ship today. Very happy with customer service from them and the information on your vids.
that is what i like to hear! They are a great group of guys! You will be a much happier camper with the shocks done properly! Keep me posted on how you like them.
Will do
I had no idea you and Bruce were 3 hours apart. Between riding vids and then model and tech vids with him, you must be living on the road.
you sir are correct!! Its come to my attention many people think i live up here and that is not the case!
How many clickers are on the velocities? Also do you like the velocities better than the old clickers. Also why not offer the XCR shocks on this sled and the Assault
cn u post EXACTLY what u chnged? part numbers and description for the valving? which valves did u use so we can go in canada and do the same thing
unfortunately that is not something we do. we have guys send shocks in from canada all the time to get done but we wont just give out our valve stacks as those have been years in R&D. im sorry but you are more than welcome to send them in and Bruce will take care of them
Your intro music reminds me of Beavis and Butthead, not a bad thing and love the vids great job.
id have to go back and listen to bevis and butthead but thank you for the support!!
Hi Jesse. Thanks for the great videos. Have a question going to respring and revalve my 21 Matryx launch edition. Planned on going polaris heavy duty rear torsion springs then Hy Gear dual rate on the other 3. Was wondering why you Bruce chose to go with Polaris single rate springs on ski shocks. Thinking it's for a more positive feel/feedback when corner. I go 260lbs and ride aggressive so I'm looking for best bang for the buck.
hey! if your 260 I would recommend going with the trap springs that came out this year along with a revalve for sure. I have never run the dual rate ski springs. I would like to try them this year I just never tried them which is why I dont have any info and run the single rate (which does work well)
Another great video. Thanks for putting these out.
I can vouch for how much of a difference valved shocks make. Had them done on my pro-s and the difference was night and day. Crazy how good that thing works on the trail. I’ll definitely be looking into getting my ‘23 XCR shocks done.
It’d be nice if you did a video on Bruce’s set up on his XCR.
hey Tom we did a ton on the XCR's last year which are the exact same as this years. If you go and scroll back through you will find a bunch!
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Yep, rewatched a bunch of those last night. Looks like HD torsion springs (I have a ‘23 so it should have those) with a revalve is the ticket. Mine still seems a little rigid in the small chatter so I backed off the low speed a couple clicks and will see what it does this weekend.
Excellent video as usual. What is the cost estimate for a Re-valve on the shocks?
revalve is $95 per shock from Bruce!
Great video as always JL
thank you!
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again why Polaris put a boost in anything but the XCR is ridiculous. VR1 has Smaller cheaper shocks, smaller springs a 2.86 pitch track with less lugs on the get that added power to hookup. At this point we all know the 9r is going to be in the next XCR which is preferable but would have been cool to have both options.
now i do agree to an extent, the XCR suspension still needs work also. That stock valving is just as bad as the valving in these. I would like this have 2.52 pitch track but as far as suspension if it was XCR trim it needs help also. Plus side on an XCR is it comes with HD springs and 100 pound front springs so the starting pointy is better!
I agree with you guys but I think it’s a simple answer. As far as aggressive riders you are correct. Most riders don’t want a stiffer riding sled. Most people suck. Think about how many clowns are in this sport and just have to have that big power for ego and will never use it until they’re on the biggest of straight runs or smooth lake. It’s a shame but that’s what it is.
Exactly. My buddy bought the boost assault and on the trails that thing is a big useless turd. I can eat lunch while I wait at the intersection with my 850 XCR. Having big power on the top end doesn’t mean anything if you can’t turn it. Will he blow by me on a lake. Sure. But that isn’t where the thrill comes in it’s going into corners fast and controlled not having a sled push so hard you have to slow down to 20-25 mph to turn it.
@@jethrobodine011 they make a boost Assault? I didn’t know. What track length? As nice as they are I still think a full trail rig out turns them anyway
146” dumbest sled I’ve ever driven. Not even joking. Then take a look at how much they cost as well. I’d take a 850 xc over it anyday
Awesome vid only one that has touched my sleds has been goodwin performance zion illinois guessing you know of them any Experience with them ever
nope but heard good things about them
@@JESSEJAMES322 have you ever went too the lake geneva snowcross or eagle river oval derby
i raced Lake Geneva back in 2010 i believe.
Planning to have my shocks rebuilt and revalved in the off season over the summer on my boost. Would it pay to go up to the 100lb front spring’s already in their stock form? If so do you keep the 1/2” preload on them as per your previous videos? Thanks
I would recommend goingt o 100"s ins tock form. The 80's just arent enough! and yes still 1/2 inch preload
kind of had a theory that the reason the stock VR1 was not as good in the corners was due to the needle valves in the front shocks. I feel like it allows the outside shock to dive a little causing a slight tippy unsettled feel. Night and day between my wife's VR1 and my XCR. Did you eliminate the needle valves or just stiffen them up?
100 Pound front springs. The VR1's come with 80 pound springs and they're lucky to even hold the sled up statically. yes we valve the fronst too but springs make a huge difference
@@JESSEJAMES322 are the part #s you shared the springs that will work with the stock front shocks 1 3/4"?
Good Vid bud. How much preload did you set on that center shock dual rate kit?
1/4 inch. very minimal
@@JESSEJAMES322 Nice. Looked like much more when was was on the table. It's a bitch to turn that preload collar when its in the sled tho!
i bought a 22 SB Assault and put the hd springs on.. is it normal to pull the bag of the sled up 1-2 inches for it to sit fully extended?
yea they never fully come back. they are always sagged out a bit. no biggy!
If the spacers work will a person eventually be able to order them from you guys?
if they work I have to see if the guy will make me some. if not I will have to see who else can but I would like to be able too yes!
Hi Jess, I have 23 xcr650 I have not been able to ride it for we don't have very much snow at all in northern Michigan I do have a trip planned for the u p riding, but should I even consider revolving my shocks, I do ride hard but not as hardcore is you guys do, is it worth the cost for my riding style for what sled I have already mind you there is no place around where I'm at to do this I would most like to send it to you guys to have this done maybe not this winter but maybe over the summer and what would be the average cost to revalve all of my shocks, sorry for the lengthy question and and Hope understand what I'm asking😁 and oh yeah does doing all this to the sled void warranties out.
hey so I would ride It first and see how you like It. if there are things you dont like we can try to tune them Into your liking but if we cant do that then a revalve is in your future. right now its $95 per shock for a revalve. this does not void warranty!
No more pogo action 👍 just wondering is there a reason you didn’t go with XCR shocks?
eventually we will but we are testing these for consumers!
@@JESSEJAMES322 Got ya
Did you trim the back part of your skis ?
good eye. yes i did
What’s the reasoning behind it I’m curious
I always tell Everyone put all your money Into the ride Is well worth the money🤑
could not agree more!
What work for a 2022 assault? Agressive rider at 230pounds I live in Canada
We did a ton of testing on the assault last year. Need a lot of revalving. If you look at my videos from this past season you will see a lot of discussion about the assaults!
Is it weird I know exactly what trail you were riding and what was up ahead of you when the riding portion of the video ended?
im not sure ill have to go back and look!
I wasn’t riding, but I know at the very end of that clip. You were coming up to a bridge, and I have a camp not far north of it
Any chance bruce has a core set I could buy and ship mine back? To save time? I have 2 boost vr1. Ty
you would have to call the shop and ask. i do not believe he does. his turn around time is extremely fast!
Hi Jesse, how close are the xcr shocks to the Bruce modified ones?
a stock set of XCR shocks? These are getting then those. Stock XCR's shocks also need help. we went throiugh that last year with my 22 XCR (23's are the same spec minus springs in the rear)
Yes so stock xcr isn’t as good as the modded vr1’s. I’m 225 and ride aggressively.
correct. I think a set up VR1 with shocks and springs by Bruce will be 10 times better
Lol when was this video shot? Did you put the bushings/spacers in the torsion springs?
some was shot before i went riding and some after. i did not try the spacers yet, one step at a time
XCR or nothing... You know 😏...160 today never touched the clickeres
XCR's need help too!!
So Polaris is essentially selling us sleds that don't perform correctly? If the difference is that great then we're getting bogus expensive shock packages that suck the way it sounds. Not sure what to make of that. Doesn't make me happy for the 20k I spent! That I do know! Making them for a wide range of riders doesn't hold up either if they're that bad.
there is many ways to look at this. do we think they should be doing a better job of getting these sleds in the ballpark? yes absolutely. But years past when they release sleds with proper valving then 90% of the people say theyre too stiff so thats why we get these watered down shocks
@@JESSEJAMES322 Agreed. People have an overinflated image of how they actually ride. “The best” isn’t the same thing as proper performance for what you actually do. I just think Polaris should market much more emphatic on what does what.
Part of the problem is that the shocks aren’t coming in to spec in the first place. Having shocks with low oil and charged at 100psi or less when they’re supposed to be 200psi is a problem. Most people don’t even know what they have to baseline from so you have to rebuild them just to know what you have then go from there.