Choosing a Truck for Our Future Truck Camper
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2022
- Before we get a truck camper - we need a truck! We'll take you on our journey of selecting the right truck for our future truck camper, and reveal which truck we went with.
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Your wrong about payload capacity. It includes the weight of the camper + gear + people. The total weight of everything you put in the truck must be under or at payload, even the gas for the pickup. When you got your pickup there's a yellow tag that gives the payload for that truck. Now the wet weight of the camper has to be much less than the payload because when you add people + gear + pets + other stuff like gas. The total weight must be at or under payload capacity.
You are the senseable person.for gods sake. ADD up everything , Kids, fat nephue, dogs we get it. She did say wet and under estimated the rest? The last show pretty much said you are better off all the way around by buying the dully, which surprised me. Then I saw their dealer ship in Texas looking like it only sold dullies. But that did not mean they were wrong about their perspective of buying a fruck made to haul big things. I would not want to drive to much at all, and would want a secondary vehicle that is my local transport. a folding Adult electric tricycle. I want to be off the grid for sure and reallky need to learn about that. I would spend 5 thousand at least. The box looking computer that controles how and whrn to use the electricity. All that tec stuff. I will spend more because I will live in this thing and I really like the idea of the independence for my power. Tricles for my iff bike stability. Mite be better off with a BS 500 dollar car.
@@kevinmccarthy8746 A sticker was shown of 3279 for pay load the comper weight was 2500 that leaves 779 of pay load left. If those numbers are correct. Now subtract the weight of both persons, don't know what that is. After you subtract the weight of both persons. Now subtract the weight of gear, food, clothes, toys & anything else. She said the payload capacity is the weight in the bed of the truck, that's not true. It's the total weight of every thing you put in the truck. 779 pounds include the weight of the 2 people & all the stuff they need to live in the camper. That weight adds up quickly!
@@user-bl4hb1bq9t that is correct they only have 779 lb. to put gear and themselves in the cab of the vehicle as well as extra gear beyond the standard equipment they put in the camper. They are likely over weight. This combo wouldn’t work for me with another person and dogs.
@@jamesmoore9008 I forgot about vehicle mods reducing payload!
You make great points. At the same time, they've been driving all over the West, including climbing and descending the tallest mountain passes in the lower 48, apparently without problems. When I was a kid, we had a 1973 Ford F-250 with a larger truck camper and we did the same, no problems. I have a feeling the manufacturers are very conservative in their numbers. It will be interesting to see if Dave and Shannon ever have any issues. I hope they don't!
I jumped into full time RV living after only ever experiencing camping while a tent, but I went about it in the reverse order that you guys did. I ordered my camper 3 months before I would eventually obtain my truck, which was a job in itself, I had a broker on the hunt as well and it took most of that 3 months to simply find it. The biggest difficulty (it was 05/22) in obtaining the truck was shortage of electronic modules in new trucks causing the rabid U.S. market for used trucks, essentially when a good truck came up it was snapped by the U.S. dealers at a premium price. It was probably the worst time to buy but it was best for my situation, and I could not be happier with the truck. 2017 Chevy High Country 3500HD diesel dually with a '22 Northern Lite 9-6 in the back.
Wow that’s a great rig!! I bet it was worth the wait!
Good choice in selecting a used truck. Your "new" truck is a 2017 which I believe was the first year in the current generation of Ford HD trucks. It's due for a complete redesign so purchasing a brand new Ford HD would probably not have been the wisest choice (financially). Congratulations on both your new truck and camper!
Thank you! We are definitely happy with our 2017. It really doesn't feel that old, and has all the features we need!
I'm usually a Chevy guy, but be aware you also need to look in the glove compartment of a 1500 truck. There you will probably find a sticker that says this truck is not recommended to carry a slide in camper. Even if your Chevy has the payload capacity for your camper, you still may not have GM approval.
Great info! Thanks!
Smart move going with the 250. My grandma always said buy more truck than what you need, it will last longer and be more safe to drive. Did you ever consider a van? we are trying to decide between a van and a truck camper.
Great advice from your grandma!
We did look at vans, here are a few reasons why we chose a truck camper: Bathroom - we wanted a larger toilet/shower and didn’t want to deal with a composting/cassette toilet. Price - we couldn’t find a van in our price range, unless we purchased one that needed to be built out, which we knew we didn’t want to do. Primary vehicle - we didn’t want a van to be our primary vehicle. When we are not camping, we store the truck camper and use the truck as our primary vehicle (another perk is we only have to pay registration on the truck, just a few states require truck campers to be registered) We hope this helps! Good luck on your search!
Howdy folks, just a note to let you know that I have been watching your travel logs with your Lance 825 Truck Camper. I found your videos via my subscription to Truck Camper Magazine, you were featured as an example of matching truck with camper, well done. I also have a Lance 825 which was paired to fit a Toyota Tundra back in 2014 when I purchased my rig. Your Ford Truck looks amazing! I subscribe to Catherine Gregory's UA-cam channel she has some amazing adventures to enjoy! I do enjoy your videos except for one thing the music you have used in at least three that I watched so far is getting old, may I suggest you explore and put more variety in the music you use. Check out Catherine Gregory's channel she has some of best music that inspire one to get out on the road and be among nature and the great outdoors. I am happy for you folks with the Lance 825.
Thank you so much!! Your rig sounds awesome - great taste! And we appreciate your feedback. We are pretty new to UA-cam and video editing so please hang in there with the music, we promise we will be changing it up in the next batch of videos!
Congrats on your find.
I've been in the search myself and am currently looking for a Ford F150 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package. Possibly pairing with the Lance 650 or even 825.
Did you guys happen to run into the issue of the manufacturer putting out different information for payload vs camper weight?
Enjoy!
Thank you! And yeah this was quite a complicated subject for us. To our understanding there are generalized payload and camper weight numbers that they publish. But each specific unit varies depending on its options/upgrades. We found the most reliable way is to look at the declared payload and wet weight stickers that will be on each vehicle (driver door on trucks, inside the closet in campers). That’s how we decided to go with the 250 and 825 pairing. Good luck on your search!
Im late to the party, but I am in the same situation of trying to choose a truck for cabover camper I want to get. I am being warned by other RV'rs with campers that they highly suggest a Dually and not just for payload, but for safety of stability. They also warn me that if you get a rear tire blow out, especially at speed on the freeway or on uneven roads, off road, you will be putting all of that weight right down on the wheel. It could cause a roll over, worst case scenario, or cause you to drift suddenly. Did you guys talk about this or read about the value of a dually when making your decision? Did you even consider one? I know its more expensive, but I am concerned about safety. Its one of those "what if" deals and I know many folks use a single axle truck. Just wondering if you thought about it or what your thoughts are?
We did consider a dually for reasons you mentioned, but for us it was cost prohibitive. We also leaned toward wanting a smaller, more maneuverable rig, along with a cost efficient primary vehicle when the camper is in storage. We do take extra precautions with our truck by investing in good tires, getting them inspected before every trip, and constantly checking the pressure, etc when out on the road. We know this won’t prevent a catastrophic event like a tire blow out, but we also feel and have read that freak accidents happen with dually trucks as well. It all depends on your comfort level, and what you think is the right rig for you. Good luck and safe travels!
My ram HD has 5532 lbs payload and it's not enough
But why not the F350? 100 more Fs for similar price.
For our particular camper, our F250 is more than capable, and it was a good deal back in the day.
So how does the F250 handle the weight of the Lance 825? Does the truck sag below level with the wet weight of the camper and gear? Did you still have to make suspension mods to help support the weight? Is there a lot of side to side motion going when going on and off curbs etc?
Hi! Our truck handles the camper great! It only sags about a 1/2 inch. We did upgrade to Fox shocks and installed Torklift StableLoads, but that was to make the ride smoother on dirt or washboard roads. And we do have side to side body roll on curbs, but not bad enough to worry about. Hope this answers everything!
Hello, since I suffer from "Craft Disease", I'm excuse if I already ask the same ? before😂. Would you buy the same outfit today? I realize also you took the 6.2l instead of the 7.3l, I'm curious. I keep coming g back and watching your clips🍬🍬🍬
Hello! When we were shopping for our truck, the 7.3L wasn’t available in our price/year range. If it was, we would have probably got it. Not that our truck is underpowered, we have had no issues with it carrying our camper, it just can’t hurt to have more power 😉
im so confused on the weight of the 825, their website has it as a dry weight of under 1800lbs and a wt weight just over 2100lbs
Yeah this was quite a complicated subject for us too. To our understanding the camper weight numbers that they publish are with standard equipment. But each specific unit’s weight varies depending on its options/upgrades. We found the most reliable way is to look at the wet weight sticker inside the closet of the camper, it’ll have the numbers for that specific unit. Hope that helps!
Have you ever had your camper weighed on a scale? I'm super curious what it weighs fully loaded!
@@mattwlane we did weigh it once when we initially got our camper a few years ago, think it was close to 9,500lb. We have made suspension upgrades like Fox shocks and added Torklift StableLoads to our truck too, which has helped make the ride a lot smoother.
Is the f250 a gas engine or a diesel? Love your channel!
Thank you! Our F250 is a 6.2L gas engine.
@@thewaywedidit how’s your mpg. Does your f250 struggle with your lance 825? I’m actually looking at the same setup, but really debating between the gas and the diesel. Keep up the good videos happy camping.
@@doroteoarango3010 how exciting!! On average we get around 11-12mpg, and our truck handles our camper great! We have not experienced any issues, and that’s driving around Colorado at high altitude. Good luck on your search!
Did you choose the SuperCab and a gas engine vs. diesel to get a higher payload capacity?
Absolutely! We chose the specific specs (F-250 XLT 6.2L gas with extended cab) with power to weight in mind. We wanted the payload capacity to handle way more than what the truck camper weighed so we could bring extra gear like paddle boards and bikes. We also chose gas for cost of ownership. It gives us plenty of power, even at Colorado's high elevation, but doesn't need DEF or high priced fuel/maintenance.
@@thewaywedidit Great info! I'm torn because I'd like to pull a 6000 lb boat as well. That might mean a dually diesel.
@@danielmartin2995 Glad we can help! The truck camper/boat setup is very popular among many pro bass fisherman, so looking at what type of trucks they use could be helpful!
I don't know where you were getting your information from but there is no 1/2 ton truck capable of carrying a 2500 load in the bed. Most are rated around 1500 lbs or so. Your camper, (wet) is 500 lbs over 1 ton! I'm glad you didn't get the 1/2 ton truck and I'm leery of even that 3/4 ton. Most of those are rated around 2000 lbs or so.
We agree! In general it’s hard to find a 1/2 ton truck to carry our size camper. It would need to be outfitted with airbags, sway bars, etc. to safely carry a larger truck camper. That’s why we went with a Ford F-250, with very specific features like a shorter cab size to give us as much payload capacity as possible. Even when fully packed, we barely feel the camper on our truck, have little to no sagging, and easily drives over the higher mountain roads in Colorado.
@The Way We Did It
Adding air bags and sway bars does not change your frame strength, or braking capacity etc.
As I said, I'm glad you didn't go for the 1/2 ton. It frustrates me to see so much misinformation out there and people like you unknowingly spread it further.
@@robhill8894 We are sorry to hear you are frustrated. We had many conversations with the Lance manufacturer and Ford dealerships about modified payload capacity on the F150. They were confident it would be safe, but we agree it probably would've been pushing it a bit, which is why we opted for the F250. Not telling you how to do it, just sharing the way we did it.
@@robhill8894 I agree that it's a bit weird the manufacturer and the dealer said it could be done. However; you're also a bit ignorant to weight ratings it seems. The frame has absolutely nothing to do with the rating in the rear of the truck. The RAWR is really all that matters. The " payload " is artificial for DOT requirements, and is by no means what the truck is capable of handling. The most common RAWR on a F150 is like 4500 pounds I believe, so a truck camper fully loaded would utilize over half this, which is about right, the rear weight on a 4x2 F150 is about 1800 pounds. 1800 + 2300 is 4100 which would put them right at about the RAWR of a base F150 4x2. IT is possible, and it is possible to do safely, but it leaves little room for error. This whole " you need extra space just in case " is crap. You are either under or over the limits of the truck, their is no " in between ". I have a ram 2500 with a 6040 rawr, I run it at 5980 alllllll day long when i'm towing my fiver, it's literally designed to be at it's max weight rating, that's why it's called a weight rating. So your frustration may be warranted, but your ignorance is showing as well.
At the end of the day the advise provided should always be to stay within the actual truck ‘s rated weight capacity. Going over the weight capacity will turn you into a suspension expert and you’ll start to know how much a pot weighs. Trust me I’ve been there along with many others.
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