The Difference Between Old & New Raze (Raze Satchel Nerf)

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
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    After the recent Raze nerfs I wanted to test out and see what is still doable. Can you still reach the same satchel jumps you could before? In this video I show you side by sides on how bad the Raze nerf is, or is it that bad at all?
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  • @grayfps
    @grayfps  Місяць тому +60

    After playing around with Raze, it turns out the nerf really isn't that bad but I will have to get in customs and practise the new timing 💥

    • @mathissu_
      @mathissu_ Місяць тому +1

      Yes well speak for yourself x) damn it's hard to get used to this difference for me this nerf is hard especially on certain technical jumps where I still had trouble being consistent like ascent gen to wall and with this nerf I have to relearn certain jumps and yes the muscle memory has to be redone it's a pain.

    • @samx23
      @samx23 Місяць тому +1

      what do u think about its' new sound ? and yeah i'm surprised the nerf isn't as bad as i thought it would be but i hate the sound it makes now

  • @FlakernGaming
    @FlakernGaming Місяць тому +141

    So basically, I guess they did to make raze easier to hit during air time.

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +12

      ig

    • @rakshith_a_m272
      @rakshith_a_m272 Місяць тому +2

      The first update was nice after the nerf raze its not good😢

  • @spacesalmon9131
    @spacesalmon9131 Місяць тому +59

    This is literally i noticed after the nerf. The horizontal distance isn't really the problem you can still do most of the jumps, it's the speed that makes the timings bit off.

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +12

      ye the speed messes a lot of stuff up

  • @andrewbartlett7717
    @andrewbartlett7717 Місяць тому +1

    love the dual comparisons!

  • @Optimus4j
    @Optimus4j Місяць тому +2

    1 min ago is wild. Great video brother❤ This is a great comparison

  • @ytanzuii960
    @ytanzuii960 Місяць тому

    You can see that gray is consistent with his satchels and movement, love it man!

  • @Dakshchandel-ym2jd
    @Dakshchandel-ym2jd Місяць тому +1

    yo gray i love your videos man !!! keep going bud. also could you please make a tutorial video of how to use satchels like you? would really appreciate it ..💫

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +2

      i would say i have some but will maybe have to make a new one now with the nerf

    • @akshayjain3130
      @akshayjain3130 29 днів тому

      Yes plz make that brother ​@@grayfps

  • @TechnologyHell
    @TechnologyHell Місяць тому +13

    My man is literally the most unaffected Raze player alive on this planet.
    btw can we have a tutorial for the box jump on ascent a site entrance ?

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +3

      i have put it in one of my videos, cant remember which one but it wasnt the greatest guide on it. will probably put in it another video or make a short explaining how to do it :)

    • @LaFreMD
      @LaFreMD 3 дні тому

      Hey, this might be what you're looking for: ua-cam.com/video/8aR5uAgnLxo/v-deo.html
      That's the first Gray's vid I ever came accross and stayed forever🎉

    • @LaFreMD
      @LaFreMD 3 дні тому

      Hey, this might be what you're looking for: ua-cam.com/video/8aR5uAgnLxo/v-deo.html
      That's the first Gray's vid I ever came accross and stayed forever🎉

  • @koshkamatew
    @koshkamatew 17 днів тому +1

    Raze satchels feel like you are being dragged through mud now, and if you try doing something risky, you get shot at like an aimlabs target

  • @Snapiex
    @Snapiex Місяць тому +9

    You are soo good with the satchels it doesnt even look raze has been nerfed 😂

  • @ojassharma3162
    @ojassharma3162 27 днів тому +3

    They nerf raze everytime, bro neon now is crazy, she just shoots while dashing, its insane

  • @gunjd
    @gunjd 29 днів тому

    Are you not playing a lot these days!? I really love your videos man. If you could keep them coming

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  29 днів тому +2

      i play about 4-6 games a day or sometimes none, only play with friends instead of solo queueing into depression

  • @nek0desu
    @nek0desu Місяць тому +6

    I WANT MY SATCHELS TO BE AS CLEAN AS URS
    ...ALSO PLZ DO LONG VIDEOS OF U GOING ALL OVER THE MAPS WITH SATCHELS IT IS SO SATISFYING TO WATCH !

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +3

      thanks my guy, not to sure how i could make long videos doing that because they are usually quite short routes :)

    • @miloticash
      @miloticash Місяць тому +1

      @@grayfps do a floor is lava of all good maps for raze

  • @razzeoyt
    @razzeoyt Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this wonderful video ( Raze Main BRO's )

  • @supazt
    @supazt Місяць тому

    Make tutorial on box jump please on ascent 🤔🤔

  • @rxphantxm
    @rxphantxm Місяць тому +2

    Raze satchel didn get nerfed. Raze just started eating better 😭

  • @fireninblue4550
    @fireninblue4550 25 днів тому

    Can you make a new raze guide for the nerf? It would really be nice if you did because I can’t really do satechels anymore after the update 😅

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  23 дні тому

      Might do yeah, got to really practise all the jumps myself. The timing change really messes with the muscle memory at times.

  • @BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMval
    @BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMval 29 днів тому

    fk it. fine. i will queue ranked. i think i needed to see this video. ty dad

  • @_itseskay
    @_itseskay Місяць тому +2

    Great video, Gray! exactly what content i was waiting for. i was trying to practice Raze again in Custom Game and figure out if she was still really possible and playable with her double satchels movements. And yes, it's not really bad because I feel like now I need to focus on the double satchels momentum, which means it needs more effort while timing the second satchels to hit all the Raze spots, even though she feels slower. but yeah. It's not that easy anymore to double-satchel without extra focusing on the momentum of her second satchels. But damn man, we finally got the Raze nerf raze mains always afraid of.

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +1

      i always knew it was coming but expected it sooner, i guess we can be glad its not as bad as we all thought it was going to be and get practising

  • @Beneowkzuue
    @Beneowkzuue 11 днів тому

    Haven 0:27
    Ascent 1:30
    Icebox 2:35
    Bind 3:43
    Abyss 4:38

  • @konoyaro15
    @konoyaro15 Місяць тому +1

    bro your satchel so good

  • @onfroysszq
    @onfroysszq Місяць тому

    According to my observations, Raze satchels getting Nerf will pave the way for more consistent and controlled entry into tight spaces using packs.

  • @sha2ahs
    @sha2ahs Місяць тому +1

    Pardon me, but your fantastic satchel movements in the new Abyss map are giving me acrophobic vibes 😨.

  • @ahmadax2
    @ahmadax2 Місяць тому +4

    the nerf imo affects single satchels more than double satchels before you would buy a judge and satchel in get a kill and satchel out which i found harder to pull off now because satchels are slower and dont cover as much distance

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +2

      im not an avid judge player so i wouldnt know but im glad it affects that tbh, hopefully a judge nerf next :)

    • @AttaraVicente
      @AttaraVicente Місяць тому

      yaps

    • @squishysalt5338
      @squishysalt5338 Місяць тому

      @@grayfpsblud what

  • @anelhad2449
    @anelhad2449 24 дні тому

    Hello, thank you for the before/after.
    I am trying to learn this move on console (lol yes) and I am really confusing about HOW you are doing such a big jump with the 2nd satchel. I've tried several timing, I can go really high or really far, but I can't do both at the same time.
    Is there something am I missing ? Need to jump or crouch or something like that ? All is about the timing of the first satchel ?
    i'm really impressive about your jump, specially and ASCENT (that's what I'm trying to reproduce)
    Thank you in advance for the answer !!

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  23 дні тому +1

      With every jump, there are different timings. It's really a case of tial and error and working out what you're doing wrong. Getting speed off the first satchel and height off the second has always been the case with Satchels but now that they are different with the nerf, they are a lot harder to do and time and even harder most likely on console but you got it my guy.
      I'm curious if you played Valorant on PC before console or only on console?

    • @anelhad2449
      @anelhad2449 23 дні тому

      The timing concerns the first satchel, as I understand that the second one always follows directly after the first, right?
      And I understood that I just need to deal with the satchel button, not the jump or the croutch or whatever ?
      I've played Valorant on PC for about 30 hours, but I'm just not good with mnk, it was painful. I've played FPS games with a controller for over 15 years, so I'm taking the opportunity to play Valorant with a controller now

    • @anelhad2449
      @anelhad2449 23 дні тому

      @@grayfps Sorry for the second message, but I've realized something. The timing actually concerns the second satchel, right? You need sometimes to throw it in advance and detonate it a bit after throwing it? Am I on the right way? Ahahaha

    • @1BladeIRL
      @1BladeIRL 13 днів тому

      @@anelhad2449 I can do the same jumps as Gray, and yes you're right. Second satchel is the one that matters and the one that changes if your getting height, distance or both combined. Also, where you're looking depends too. If you look straight down you'll get more distance, if you're looking a little bit up from your feet in front of you, you'll get more height. Extra tip: the further you fall before detonating your satchel, the more momentum you get. Good luck.

    • @anelhad2449
      @anelhad2449 13 днів тому

      @@1BladeIRL Thank you very much for your help. Yeah that's really the timing of the 2nd one that fck me up. It's always pushing me in front, without any heigh, no matter if I'm watching me feet, the sky.. lol

  • @StaticMMIV
    @StaticMMIV Місяць тому +8

    tbh seeing all the satchels cover almost the same amount of distance, its not even that bad of a change
    my objective humble opinion: no they didnt kill raze

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +1

      i don't think so either, but you definitely feel the change when it comes to the longer satchels which sucks but practise make perfect :)

  • @hammy3060
    @hammy3060 День тому

    Since valo is now out on console, is jumping around the map like this also possible on controller?

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  День тому

      Not sure, I would assume so 🤔

  • @nadeflare
    @nadeflare Місяць тому +1

    i don’t think the problem with this nerf is really in the jumps themselves, i feel like double satcheling in just won’t be viable anymore though because it’s so easy to get shot out of the air

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      single satchelling is nerfed more i feel, just dont go for jumps that you float in the air and you have less chance of getting tapped

  • @anglerfish61
    @anglerfish61 Місяць тому

    ah the God himself we are fine. So we are fine. Good :)

  • @Ruwnw.jp3
    @Ruwnw.jp3 27 днів тому

    slower but same distance coverage

  • @DwayneMoran20
    @DwayneMoran20 Місяць тому +2

    I feel like i want raze E to be the satchel...

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +1

      Been preaching this but will never happen

  • @sympleanimation5229
    @sympleanimation5229 Місяць тому +2

    although the nerf isnt as bad as it looks, it definitely feels off when playing raze after the nerfs

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      Yeah, it feels sluggish

  • @polarpower1062
    @polarpower1062 Місяць тому

    Long answer yes short answer yes

  • @cube3156
    @cube3156 Місяць тому +3

    you can't just fuck it we ball into backsite anymore exposed because you get shot out of the air, same distance but you're an easier target now

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +1

      Yeee, it sucks 👎

  • @i_am_insane
    @i_am_insane Місяць тому

    Bro sounds so sad 😞 😢 throughout the video
    Feels like he’s mourning raze’s nerf/death 🪦

  • @carlomiranda6231
    @carlomiranda6231 13 днів тому

    Im on console and have been trying the jump at 1:40 but i can never get the second satchel to give me enough height, same thing on the way back. Any tips?

    • @inferno572
      @inferno572 День тому

      No way we got console players now

  • @diggus
    @diggus 26 днів тому

    No matter how hard I try I can’t land the wall to gen jump on ascemt

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  25 днів тому

      yeah, its not easy and honestly not worth doing unless you have a decent flasher on your team

  • @Misugai
    @Misugai Місяць тому

    My answer before the video is yes, only cuz now it isn't as fun being super fast lol
    After Video: I still wanna say yes due to losing the speed BUT even as a Raze main, honestly I think this is the PERFECT way to nerf any character. She's still viable/playable but just requires like you said a bit more timing precision on the satchels. Sad nerf to Raze mains but overall good nerf that didn't completely kill the character

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      ye i agree with ya

    • @V1kizhereee
      @V1kizhereee 26 днів тому

      She got even harder to play due to her being very vulnerable mid air, but ye this is an understandable nerf

  • @jrm8206
    @jrm8206 Місяць тому +1

    Nah, after 43 nerfs since launce, she needs about 15 more. Removing the ROCKET might be a cool one.

  • @Justetheamoi
    @Justetheamoi Місяць тому

    in immo/rad i get one taps in air time so now i will die easier xd

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      i got shot out the air too in ranked but ig we got to get even more used to it lol

  • @None-ij2ry
    @None-ij2ry Місяць тому

    thank god they didnt kill my baby

  • @iLikeSnowFoxes
    @iLikeSnowFoxes Місяць тому

    Btw you can go from a main to a tower in 2 sactels

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      What map?

    • @iLikeSnowFoxes
      @iLikeSnowFoxes Місяць тому

      @@grayfps abyss sorry for not saying it in the initial comment

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      ye i dont know why i didnt show that tbf, i was mainly showing an example of what i done in my abyss video that i triple boosted, got one and went into heaven

  • @mulagzzly
    @mulagzzly 28 днів тому

    Abyss jumps 4:49

  • @arshakhtar9207
    @arshakhtar9207 Місяць тому

    Looks like she just loses her speed faster with the left right rotations of mouse.

  • @ivan_valerian
    @ivan_valerian 29 днів тому

    People are misinterpreting the patch note. It's the speed when you're flying that was changed. Not the distance.

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  29 днів тому +1

      if you do the same satchels as before then you don't reach the same distance, the timing has changed due to the speed change so you need to almost throw different satchels that aren't as clean as before

  • @mralphak2873
    @mralphak2873 29 днів тому

    what is ur sens?

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  25 днів тому +1

      400dpi 0.444

  • @TheOssie98
    @TheOssie98 Місяць тому +1

    for you perhaps this isn't a big nerf since the devs cater to the pro scene who are already mechanical demons, but for regular people like me this is horrible

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +1

      definitely a big nerf, got to relearn timings for raze

  • @beastzz255
    @beastzz255 Місяць тому +1

    Honestly, they killed Raze with this Nerf 😢

  • @realemcy
    @realemcy Місяць тому

    Whats ur Edpi? Or rather ur sens and ur dpi?

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      .477 400dpi

    • @realemcy
      @realemcy Місяць тому

      @@grayfps wow u will need a huge mousepad. I play 800dpi and .3 sens

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      ye got a desk one

  • @A1zeNvl
    @A1zeNvl Місяць тому

    Now raze needs actual skills to play

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      she always did, when it comes to the people that play her without a judge every round

  • @user-pj4yu9vw7p
    @user-pj4yu9vw7p Місяць тому

    Super boosting still work?

  • @hellguyop
    @hellguyop Місяць тому

    They just slowed her

  • @kehmer
    @kehmer Місяць тому

    its not the worst but its definitely annoying. and neon buff makes me mad

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      i mean neon getting a buff means a couple agents to play now :)

    • @kehmer
      @kehmer Місяць тому +1

      @@grayfps I have personal beef with neon players I might have to become one of em

  • @ThatOneDudz
    @ThatOneDudz Місяць тому +1

    Neon with 2 slides but one shockwave:

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      neon does seem fun

    • @ThatOneDudz
      @ThatOneDudz Місяць тому

      @@grayfps ikr I love using neon bro but I suck please don't mind my video it's my old gameplay.

  • @cime62
    @cime62 Місяць тому

    So basically they are all doable, but harder to do, and slower so that the enemy has a chance to hit you... Fair

  • @chillbite4518
    @chillbite4518 Місяць тому

    145 views in 3mins you didnt fall off dw

  • @rxshhorde7373
    @rxshhorde7373 28 днів тому

    Would you still consider raze viable?

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  25 днів тому

      ye she will still be meta i think, not everyone satchels around like this and use raze to gain some space while her nade, boombot and ult are all high impact

  • @sohamgadekar5879
    @sohamgadekar5879 Місяць тому

    so basically nerf raze players not satchels

  • @malaria4017
    @malaria4017 Місяць тому

    yes they did ruin her her special thing satcheling isn't as fun

  • @jjaytee
    @jjaytee Місяць тому

    this is why flights left the game :(

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      2 years ago? haha

  • @BuzzKora
    @BuzzKora Місяць тому

    Raze is a cypher trap kill bot, what a shame. Grenades are too strong, everything else is complete crap...

  • @ehabaziz7996
    @ehabaziz7996 Місяць тому

    this nerf wasn't enough for you buddy

  • @yusufcicek1150
    @yusufcicek1150 Місяць тому

    is it me or does the 2nd satchel have a different sound*? disgusting

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      ye it does and its exactly what you said, disgusting

  • @Keiotaka
    @Keiotaka Місяць тому

    Ofc gray wouldnt be affected but players like me who have not the best movement are greatly affected as we already were having trouble with some jumps now the nerf just makes ir even harder for us to do them... horrible nerf imo nerfing the only skill based ability in her kit was definitely not the move.

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      They definitely nerfed me haha, this is in a custom. It will take some practise to get them down in actual immo lobbies, especially the harder jumps, but I enjoy playing Raze too much to not give it a go

  • @vesperflute9030
    @vesperflute9030 Місяць тому +1

    I feel bad for all the Raze players, getting all that muscle memory and feeling and then this. It's like you get used to driving a motorcycle and now you have to drive a truck. I really hope they reverse this and only make the sound more audible from a distance. Also the new sound is horrible.

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому

      i mean it sucks but i was expecting waaaay worse and yeah, the new sound is horrible

  • @preech3647
    @preech3647 Місяць тому

    Yall op crutchs are whats wrong with the joke of an fps that is val

  • @toyamint
    @toyamint Місяць тому

    First xD

  • @Z1ck9
    @Z1ck9 Місяць тому

    Alwasy learning from you gray, first comment 😼😼

  • @TempIsWild
    @TempIsWild Місяць тому

    Dang bro 16 views 1 minute you fell off

    • @grayfps
      @grayfps  Місяць тому +1

      was wondering when i was finally gonna see the "you fell off" stuff in my comments 😂

    • @TempIsWild
      @TempIsWild Місяць тому

      @@grayfpsI got u brodie

  • @preech3647
    @preech3647 Місяць тому

    Loser raze mains