Focus stacking or focus bracketing?

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  • @gjman1972
    @gjman1972 13 днів тому +1

    I must admit that when you started off talking French I got worried because you seemed like you were going to give a great presentation so I am glad you did it in English because it was great. I learned so much about focus stacking/bracketing and it really is helping me plan my pottery photo shoot as in many cases there are different depths of field, so thank you!

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  7 днів тому

      I am glad this video was useful and I hope you were successful with your pottery shoot.

  • @roykropp155
    @roykropp155 Рік тому +23

    Focus bracketing is the process of taking images at different focal distances. Focus stacking is the putting together of those images whether it be in camera (e.g., Olympus) or via external computer software (e.g., Photoshop, Helicon focus). Focus stacking does not occur without previous focus bracketing. The two are linked. Olympus cameras (and likely some others) have the option to take the images (focus bracketing) and then assemble them in camera (focus stacking). Alternatively, the bracketed images can be kept separate and assembled later out of camera.

    • @jameshuff9726
      @jameshuff9726 Рік тому +3

      This is how I understand the difference between the two also.

    • @lennyvlaminov9480
      @lennyvlaminov9480 8 місяців тому +2

      100 % right

    • @hawperify
      @hawperify 3 місяці тому

      Great, concise description. Thanks!

    • @Sache0190
      @Sache0190 3 місяці тому +3

      Finally. Short and correct. The video is pretty nonsensical for non Olympus users

    • @jonasweiss5817
      @jonasweiss5817 Місяць тому

      Who asked you?

  • @catherinetremerryn
    @catherinetremerryn Рік тому +1

    Many thanks Emilie, you really have been a terrific help. I have just got to practice and practice! Have a lovely evening.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      Thank you for your kind words.

  • @slagclan1
    @slagclan1 Рік тому +3

    Thank you! This info helps. You inspire me to get out there and practice!

  • @kimmachia
    @kimmachia 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for making it easy to understand the difference between the two.
    😄😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  10 місяців тому

      Any time!

  • @Beunzi_H
    @Beunzi_H 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't if someone will have the same basketball (allen iverson) reference, but the key is Practice, practice practice... thank you Emilie !!

  • @edycafe
    @edycafe 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for sharing, you really really helped me understand between focus stacking & bracketing. Now, I need to do some practice as you said. Have a lovely day.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! Have a great day too!

  • @minb1217
    @minb1217 Рік тому +3

    Nicely explained. Thank you! Much easier than using a focus rail and doing things manually!

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      Thank you. Yes way easier :)

  • @omnombrains
    @omnombrains 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the fstop demonstration, that helped me to understand it!

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  11 місяців тому

      Glad it was useful!

  • @danieled.2583
    @danieled.2583 Рік тому +1

    Now I understand the difference! Thank you Emilie

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      Glad it is helpful

  • @jennifercall9014
    @jennifercall9014 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the video. I cannot wait to get outside tomorrow

  • @cjk1943
    @cjk1943 Рік тому +1

    Love the video both systems are used in the Om Camera and why I purchased the camera omlll and the om1

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      I agree. Focus stacking and live composite were two of the computational mode that pushed me to OM.

  • @jorgeperellobonus5214
    @jorgeperellobonus5214 4 місяці тому

    Hola. Muchas gracias por tus videos y tu trabajo desinteresado. Yo he comprado una olympus om1. Pero no consigo que con focus bracketing me salga la foto apilada final.me da error.que estare haciendo mal?? Gracias

  • @denisardeche
    @denisardeche Рік тому +2

    Une explication très clare ,merci

  • @godsinbox
    @godsinbox Рік тому +2

    What about when to use exposure compensation and exposure bracketing? And when high resolution mode can help with noise reduction?

  • @debsunderman6567
    @debsunderman6567 Рік тому +2

    Thanks so much, you explain these perfectly! 📷 Practice practice and more practice! Always 😊 happy shooting!

  • @coeurvision33
    @coeurvision33 Рік тому +2

    Thank you Emilie, this is very helpfull to explain the differences ! All the best 💫Cheers from France ;)

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Merci!

  • @58elrond
    @58elrond Рік тому +2

    This is kinda just personal note so feel free to ignore - macro photography focus stacking - can just blur background with 1 click in post,,, f2.8 you are getting more light into the sensor but limits the focal range,,, which allows you more room with other things such as faster shutter speed/lower iso and mainly getting closer to the subject,,, with macro photography its mainly about the dynamic convergence of the actual insect/cube (how large the front is vs back, like dynamic car photos) (something you loose with telephoto/zoom lens.) requires you to be extremely close (little natural light) to a subject when using wide angle macro lens,,, focus stacking will mess up shots with moving parts though such as flower moving in wind, or insect moving,,,, hence why #1 most important thing is light/stability,,, if you can use a high CRI light,,, you can decrease aperture, shutter speed, get closer to subject (more convergence), lower iso. And with lower aperture, you increase focal range = less focus stacking/bracketing steps,, = faster shot/cleaner shot if subject moving/unstable,,, (if subject is still then this doesn't matter so much can just use tripod,, and take minimal size aperture, and bump up shutter time... or if system firmware is static timing then that's the limiting factor which would be annoying)

  • @MrKreweesti
    @MrKreweesti Рік тому +4

    Nice video. I do it my self quit a lot, but many times I get a blurry line around my subject. It's from the focus change from the lens. Do you know how you can prevent this from happening? Or how to get rid of afterwards. 😕 Thanks!

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      Try playing with different setting like changing your aperture and see what you can get.

  • @angelogarciajr5356
    @angelogarciajr5356 6 місяців тому +1

    I have been doing this every day for a week now. So much fun. I use my front yard every morning for some cool pics. Been getting flowers and insects mostly.. I got a macro of a jumping spider and it appears like a gorilla. How fun.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  6 місяців тому +1

      That is awesome!

  • @JenniferPayne-uu5ve
    @JenniferPayne-uu5ve 5 місяців тому +1

    Really useful video

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  5 місяців тому

      Thank you. Glad it is helpful.

  • @stevejohnson5461
    @stevejohnson5461 Рік тому

    Thank for your laid back explanation in English, which obviously is not you're first language among others I dare say.

  • @yaupie
    @yaupie Рік тому +1

    Besides the need to take more than 15 frames, it may need to use focus bracketing instead of focus stacking simply because the lens in use is incompatible with the latter technology.
    Olympus/OMDS has an online listing showing which lenses compatible with focus stacking.

  • @bobbybordimedia
    @bobbybordimedia Рік тому +1

    Very informative. Thank you! My question though is with a manual focus only lense and using focus bracketing, can the camera adjust the focus point when there is no auto focus? I have the Sony a7RV and Laowa 90 Macro 2x. Very new to Macro, but that does confuse me.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      Thank you. I am not familiar with Sony and this lens so I can't answer that. Do you have this function on your Sony?

    • @eakishway
      @eakishway 8 місяців тому

      I do not have a Sony a7RV but I guess all cameras cannot do focus bracketing automatically with manual lens since there is no way to control the focus automatically. You have to do focus bracketing manually with manual lens.

  • @jimgiraffe5253
    @jimgiraffe5253 Рік тому +1

    emilie, what olympus cameras are best at focus stacking and bracketing?
    i have a gh4 and looking to upgrade

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      OM1, OM5, Em1 mark III, Em1X...All great camera for focus stacking. Some older so you can get better deals too.

    • @johnkanzler6646
      @johnkanzler6646 Рік тому +1

      The Em1 mk2 is a fantastic bargain right now

  • @panonut
    @panonut Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this well explained difference between the two different ways of the two different ways of focus stacking/bracketing. I only recently discovered focus stacking/bracketing. Most of the time I prefer focus stacking, because it gives immediate feedback. But invariably I end up using lightroom/photoshop to arrive at the final image. What do you do with the used photos? Do you just keep the merged image or do you keep all the images used in the merge?
    While you use stacking in macro photography, I have used stacking in landscape photography with success.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      I keep all images just in case. But very often just used the jpeg

  • @catherinetremerryn
    @catherinetremerryn Рік тому +1

    Thank you Emilie, v useful. When using focus stacking or bracketing, is there a maximum Shutter speed you can use? I have noticed that I am getting the odd black gaps on my photo card and wondered if the speed maybe too fast ? I’m desperate to capture fast moving butterflies. Thanks again for your help and advice.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      Yes with the flash you have to be careful and adjust. Page. 124 of the OM1 manual for example: The flash sync speed for silent modes (P. 132), High Res Shot (P. 156), and focus bracketing (P. 178) is 1/100 s. Setting [K ISO] to a value over ISO 16000 when
      using an option that requires the electronic shutter (for example, silent mode or focus bracketing) sets the flash sync speed to 1/50 s. The flash sync speed is also set to 1/50 s during ISO bracketing (P. 176).

  • @fernandoescubos5388
    @fernandoescubos5388 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful. Merci beaucoup. The only doubt that I have is about how many photographies should I take in the bracketing process. That it means that the more the photographies I take, the quality of the image would be higher? Je comprends que les plus de photografies faites, le plus de de post-édition nous aurons a faire, nest pas? :)

    • @heinz4841
      @heinz4841 Рік тому

      See the video of Rob Trek on this one. I allways took too many, which resulted in unsharper images. Now I take, depending on the size of my object, sometimes only 3 or 5 pictures. Rob explains this very well in his second video

  • @randomstuff53078
    @randomstuff53078 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful thanks

  • @alangamble3236
    @alangamble3236 Рік тому +1

    Hi I must confess I do forget the image cropping but the results are very good.

  • @shirleydalgetty2654
    @shirleydalgetty2654 Рік тому +1

    Hi Emilie, when focus stacking with the Olympus FL 700 WR flash and OM1, what speed should you set the flash sync to?

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      1/100 sec for the om-1 and flash for focus stacking.

  • @systemanaturae105
    @systemanaturae105 Рік тому +2

    Nice video clip Emilie 👌😊. Focus stacking / bracketing is not that straight forward especially when shooting out in the field 🤨. I find the focus stacking is extremely useful to give you a good idea of exposure at the time of taking the photos. There are lots of issues to consider and then there is which type of lighting to use - natural , flash or LED. I could discus this process for hours but the most important point is to have fun and enjoy the “shutter therapy” 🥰🥰

  • @lennyvlaminov9480
    @lennyvlaminov9480 8 місяців тому +2

    I work with raw only and a warning to the newbies: the post processing will demand some serious computational power. Yesterday I stacked 81 exposures of 45mp which resulted in a 55 GB working file.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  7 місяців тому

      Very true!

  • @catherinetremerryn
    @catherinetremerryn Рік тому +1

    Hi Emilie, this is I think probably a v silly question but is High Res the short cut version of photo stacking? Or, is High Res something you just use when you want everything in focus? Or, is it something you should use for both?
    Many thanks for all yr videos they are. Great help.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      There is no silly question :) High Res mode is very different from stacking. With stacking you get more depth of field with high res you get more resolution. That means 50mega pixels or even 80mega pixels on a tripod versus 20mega pixels.

    • @eakishway
      @eakishway 8 місяців тому

      Under certain conditions, High Res shot can be used as a short cut. Sometimes focus stacking is needed because the camera is too close to the object so there is not enough depth of field (DoF) to cover the whole object under the smallest aperture available. Let's assume the output media (print or screen resolution, etc.) requires 20 MP image and the object should occupy most space of the image. Then I can move the object a bit further away from the camera, which will result in more DoF. Then I shot in the High Res mode, got a 50 MP image from the camera. Then I just crop the image and making the object occupy most space of the output image and the output image may still be about 20 MP. If I do not have a compatible lens and moving the object a bit further away will give enough DoF, then High Res mode is the lazy way (no post processing is needed except for crop, much more convenient than testing different settings of focus bracketing options and different algorithms and options post processing applications offer).

  • @michael-mvtd
    @michael-mvtd Рік тому +2

    As an ambassador for the brand, maybe you can suggest improvements to OM Systems. I would really appreciate an option menu item that would allow using in camera stacking without keeping the raw files. That way you could experiment changing your composition, interval choices or number in the stack without accumulating a lot of disposable files. Then, turn it on to keep them when those choices are settled.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      I am not sure I am understanding. There is the option to select and delete all off them in camera if needed. Although I don't recommend that. Just decide which one to keep when you import and then reformat your card. Easier. With the SD card being affordable space should not be an issue.

    • @Nitschke-CAN
      @Nitschke-CAN Рік тому +1

      Hey Michael, this isn’t quite what you requested, but there is an interesting trick I saw on a Richard Cook video which I wasn’t aware of. When reviewing your shots on the camera, if you zoom out so you can see thumbnails of the shots, you can hold the record button down and scroll through the photos with the dial to select a number of photos easily. From there you can then just hit the delete button.

    • @michael-mvtd
      @michael-mvtd Рік тому +1

      @@EmilieT as you say in the video, there's no recipe to cover how to successfully use in camera stacking and so experimenting with different intervals such as 3,5,7 or stacks of 5 vs 10 vs 15 images is needed. But when doing this, I don't want to accumulate all the raw images. I just want to see and compare the results of changing these parameters.
      Once I've decided the best settings, I will want to keep all the raw files. I just don't want them for the experimental images and I don't want to wade through deleting them in post as I already know I don't want to keep them. Hopefully that's clearer.🙂

    • @michael-mvtd
      @michael-mvtd Рік тому

      @@Nitschke-CAN , thanks and yes I know about this. It's what I do now but when you're in the field, it's hard on the small camera's screen to tell the raw from the jpegs. And as I said, I sometimes just don't want the raws anyway.

    • @johnkanzler6646
      @johnkanzler6646 Рік тому

      Could you opt to shoot only in jpeg? Or does the stacking function override that?

  • @serkal0
    @serkal0 11 місяців тому

    Will this work with manual focus lenses?

    • @eakishway
      @eakishway 8 місяців тому

      It works but you need to change the focus distance manually and use post processing applications to combine them together. Just like if the cameras do not support HDR and exposure bracketing, you can still do exposure bracketing manually and combine them into one HDR image with post processing applications.

  • @HankFly-dn8ir
    @HankFly-dn8ir Рік тому

    I didn't hear a definition of focus bracketing, or how to manually do it.

  • @yvesprevost3557
    @yvesprevost3557 Рік тому +2

    Merci Émilie. Quand une vidéo en français ?

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      J'espère avoir un peu plus de temps en mai pour pouvoir faire des videos en anglais et en français.

  • @jonbarnard7186
    @jonbarnard7186 8 місяців тому

    It's a shame that there aren't more lenses that support focus stacking in these cameras. Even the 20mm 1.4 Pro doesn't support stacking, which is a real shame, since the close focus is quite good with this lens. I actually only have two lenses that do support it, my 60mm macro and my 12-100. Fortunately, focus bracketing is more widely supported.

  • @83100eric
    @83100eric Рік тому +1

    Bonjour Emilie et grand merci pour tes vidéos. Peux-tu me confirmer en français :
    1) focus bracketing, on fait la mise au point au début (le plus proche de l'appareil) du sujet
    2) Hyper Focus (focus stacking), on fait la mise au point au milieu du sujet.
    Je l'avais lu ou vu quelque part, impossible de retrouver.
    Traduit avec google
    Hello Emilie and big thank you for your videos. Can you confirm me in French:
    1) Focus Bracketing, we develop at the start (closest to the device) of the subject
    2) Hyper Focus (Focus Stacking), we develop in the middle of the subject.
    I had read it or seen somewhere, impossible to find.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому

      Bonjour Eric. Pour le focus stacking, moi je fais la mise au point comme pour le bracketing car je préfère perdre quelques photos. L'appareil prends juste quelques photos devant ton point focus et le reste est sur et derrière le point focus.

    • @83100eric
      @83100eric Рік тому

      Merci Emilie pour cette réponse rapide. Profites bien de cette belle nature👍

  • @imaflymydroneatit
    @imaflymydroneatit 7 місяців тому +1

    Isn't this a little misleading? For 80% of people what you call focus stacking is the process they do after focus bracketing since most cameras don't do focus stacking in camera.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  7 місяців тому +1

      It is not. Those are two different things. OM SYSTEM cameras are really ahead in terms of computational technologies. What they offered really helps me and a lot of other macro photographers in the field.

    • @imaflymydroneatit
      @imaflymydroneatit 7 місяців тому +1

      @@EmilieT that's fine. I shoot Panasonic which doesn't have focus stacking. So to me and everyone else without stacking in camera, focus stacking is the post processing you do after focus bracketing.
      If this video is OM specific than that's fine, I didn't know what when I watched it.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  7 місяців тому +1

      @@imaflymydroneatit i understand now. Yes the focus stacking and bracketing is OM specific. I believe other brands have different names as well with some restrictions on what OM called focus stacking in camera.

  • @sailingsvsalacia8398
    @sailingsvsalacia8398 Рік тому +3

    So when I first came upon this video, I watched it and was like "huh??" I did a little digging and apparantly Olympus is the only one that does this and it's due to the limitations of the camera. As stated in an earlier comment, FOCUS BRACKETING is the process of taking short focal distance photos at different focus points where you start of the front of your subject and work to the back. In EVERY OTHER CAMERA other except Olympus, a focus bracket ranges from 2 to 999 photos. Then, you can turn those photos into a composition using software with a process called FOCUS STACKING. Olympus cameras can only handle 15 photos max in a stack, which is why they call it that. My Canon can focus stack all 999 bracketed photos into a stack, it is not limited to 15 like Olympus. So while your explanation may be correct for Olympus cameras, it is completely incorrect for all others. The bottom line, focus bracketing is taking the photos, focus stacking is compositioning the photos. The number of photos don't have anything to do with the price of tea in China, except on Olympus cameras.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  Рік тому +1

      You are confusing bracketing and stacking. Like your camera my camera can bracket up to 999 photos but my camera unlike your camera can also take 15 bracketed images and stacked them in camera to give me one photo already stacked. This is specific to OM SYSTEM and a huge advantage. I invite you to go to OM System learning page to continue discovering the amazing functions of the OM cameras in terms of macro photography.

    • @kukasr
      @kukasr 11 місяців тому

      Worst explanation I ever saw.

    • @sailingsvsalacia8398
      @sailingsvsalacia8398 10 місяців тому

      @@EmilieT Canon R series will bracket AND stack 999 images in camera giving a completed JPG image as the output. Only Olympus calls it what they call it with a 15 photo max. To the rest of the world the bracket is taking the photos, stacking is compositioning the bracketed photos regardless of the number of photos. You Olympus people are strange.

    • @EmilieT
      @EmilieT  10 місяців тому

      Your camera manual says you have to be on a tripod for this to work. I don't use a tripod for bugs. I can do focus stacking handheld with my OM SYSTEM cameras and get a sharp stacked image in camera which is a tremendous plus when you are a macro photographer. There is a reason why professional photographers are switching to OM SYSTEM for their macro work and it is not because we are strange lol!@@sailingsvsalacia8398

    • @angelogarciajr5356
      @angelogarciajr5356 6 місяців тому

      My Canon r7 stacks the images then kicks out the final product. Pretty cool deal.

  • @philperot587
    @philperot587 9 місяців тому +1

    en français , ce serait bien, je ne parle pas l'anglai et ai aucune intention de l'apprendre, alors ce sujet m'interesse donc en français SVP...