Totally out coached and out played. OREGON was đown to 7 scholarship players. Arizona starts 5 seniors. Arizona had home court with the unfair 6 hour drive AND STILL LOST.
Lute Olson record NCAA Tournament: 24 Years 9 1st Round 3 2nd round 4 Sweet 16 3 Elite Eight 2 Final Fours 1 Runner Up 1 Championship Give Tommy a break. Lute had 1 final four every 6 years if you average it and early exits (round 1 or2) as a 1-4 seed 9 times. It isn't easy. Go CATS! Bear Down!
What’s the point of this? And your numbers are wrong. Lute took Arizona to 4 final fours and 2 championship games. This program hasn’t been to the final 4 in 25 years since Lute retired. And it’s no threat to get there this year either. As fans we’re just praying to avoid yet another 1st round embarrassment. We’re the laughing stock of the NCAA tournament. No program has had more talent and accomplished less in the NCAA than Arizona. Sadly we will have to resort to what is all too common now, “Next Year.” As for this team. It’s done. It’s cooked.
Check the math it is the same:) My list shows where Lute's teams ended. The point is that even the great Lute Olson didn't find it easy every year. Some people on this thread are hating without any real data under Lloyd's tenure, 2 years.@@bridgetekcommunications332
This coach is too nice, you can’t win being nice. Trying to be a top notch program requires passion, intensity, and a killer instinct. All the talent in world can’t get you to a championship without grit!
Lloyd's making sure to protect his enormous salary. There's a reason why he spent 20 years at Gonzaga in the weeds. He remains an assistant mentality among a crowd of assistant coaches.
Everyone jumps on a band wagon. I've never heard so many negative comments about coach. Loyd ever. Someone said that it wasn't Oregon's best game.Not sure what game you were watching because they just totally outplayed us. How funny though if we would have won all you haters would be saying high praises and way to go Tommy!! It's not over till it's over #4
The coaching staff was delusional in their approach tonight. Donate tonight’s portion of your salary as coaches to local Tucson charities please. You make outrageous money compared to most in our community. You simply did not earn it tonight!
I need this entire coaching staff to step it the hell up. I get the players are the ones on the court but it starts with the direction and demeanor of their leaders/mentors! We require a lot from our coaches like we require a lot from our players. Look yourselves in the mirror and STEP IT UP. 6 games left.
I have watched teams playing their hearts out in conference tournaments and then I watch Arizona and want to cry. 😮 There is no motivation, no maximum effort
It's going to be a long road after Tommy's extension if he can't learn from last year. Giving the players freedom might have been a winning strategy as an assistant and a recruiter when Mark Few could step up when the team needed a forceful hand to get them through the tough games. But you can't let the players run the team on the court 100% of the time. They're kids, they don't know how to win in most situations. If they did they wouldn't be playing college ball.
Lloyd's stuck with an assistant coach's mentality. Groomed as an assistant in over 20 years in the weeds at Gonzaga was no doubt sweet poison. As Lute liked to say, a zebra never loses its stripes.
I swear to God, reading some of these comments it’s like charger fans, or cowboy fans I really like Lloyd and I believe in our team I think this is one of the best teams that we’ve had since we won the championship. I’m not giving up on them and the coach knows what he’s doing. I’m hearing people say he doesn’t know how to make halftime adjustments just because this last game didn’t work we dominate in the second half from adjustments. And I’ve never seen so many Arizona fans sounding like there Fairweather fans.
I believe that this loss was planned, we decided to not knock our selves and save energy against a third game against wash state, 2nd, bumping us back to the second tier where its more likely as in the past history there are more upsets against #1 seeds v/s #2 seeds that aren't as crazy about knocking out a #1 team!! I'm happy this happened 🎉🎉🎉
Same bullshit coming from Lloyd. Altman was running up the sideline w fire & passion during their comeback while Lloyd sat on his ass or stood w his hands in his pocket w nothing to say like a lost dog. Boswell is beyond pathetic. Avg 3.7 pts last 3 games shooting like 17%. Don't get me started about his lack of D either. Ballo had ZERO shots in the entire 2nd half against Dante playing on 1 leg w 3 or 4 fouls. Why? Either our pg can't get him the ball and/or Lloyd ran zero plays for him. Teams play w the mentality like their coach. Huggins, Sampson, D Hurley all have teams that play hard just like their demeanor. We play soft & at times give up just like Tommy's Mr Nice Guy personality. At this point there's nothing new to learn you either know what to do or you don't. You either know how to beat a zone, defend against the high screen by their big, feed our post players or we don't. You've had 7 mos to learn. Oh, & don't get me started about Love the last 3 games. Kid shoots 87% FT for the yr & today he's 1-4. He's lost it mentally. It's in his head. Must've given up 5+ open looks today. This team should at least make the final 8 w the talent & senior players we have, anything less is a failure. It's great to win all these regular season games but it means nothing if you lose early in the tourn. Look at Few at Zaga as the poster boy of someone who wins during the season & never gets things done come tourney. Same Mr Nice Guy as Lloyd
Right you are! And don't forget Lloyd spent 20 years in the weeds at Gonzaga as an assistant. Must've been sweet poison. I just don't believe being the alpha dog is in Lloyd's DNA.
Oregon fan here… AZ has kicked Oregon’s ass all year… they’re a better team for sure but I think it was clear that Oregon wanted that game more and obviously needed to win that game more than AZ. AZ will still have a deep deep run that honestly will probably see them in the Final 4. Calm down and stop doubting your team that has basically dominated everyone and hasn’t had a million injuries like Oregon has. We’d kill to be in your spot
@@jayminbernhardt4952 I hope you're right. I'll just say this, other teams that should make the Final Four (UConn, Houston) don't get tripped up by a zone and don't lose to the bottom teams in their (much better) conferences.
The biggest issue going into the tournament is nobody fears Arizona. They know they are beatable by any team on any night. Play hard and you probably win. I have to think that whoever draws Arizona will be thankful. Not a good position for Arizona to be in headed into the tournament and likely means yet another early exit.
Fans so fickle. Many good teams losing in conference tourney. The real deal is bigger tourney stage. Purdue n Tennessee not throwing in the towel n we should not. Better to get more rest before nextcweekend
Let's be real! This Cats team is overrated and does not have the tenacity to get pass the second round of the big tournament. Prove me wrong, Wildcats!
Bummer. Hey, it happens ... nothing falls and then you don't wanna be the next shooter to miss. Other side, they were making some circus shots and steals. Oh well. Ya never know on any given day.
Is it frustrating? Absolutely!…but AZ fans always whine and complain and expect apologies. Being a true fan means standing with your team through the ups and downs. This is an outstanding team that unfortunately plays on fire together and cold as ice together….they are exciting to watch and don’t owe us anything! They have definitely had some head scratchers but the vast majority of games their effort is there….this is a final four capable team and most teams don’t beat us the first time around….have faith and Bear Down
Lloyd is a fist class coach. It is so easy for bandwagon jumpers to complain after a loss. Love has had a great year and the team has become dependent on his scoring. It was well known that Love's play is mercurial and at times out of control/inconsistent. When Love is ON, it is easy for the team to become complacent. When he struggles, it is really difficult to win. To go far into the tournament, Larssen and Johnson will have to demonstrate Senior leadership and grit, particularly when the other team is making a run or Love's shots aren't gong in. Love, Boswell, and Bradley shot combined 5/21--not going to get it done. Still rooting for these young men to kick butt in the tourney. Go Cats!
Lloyd is delusional. He has no strategy or answer. He just does the same shit over and over again hoping it just works.. his starting 2 guards are 11-57 the last 3 games. His 2 guys that don’t start are 16-34
@@rickJesusBassPhoto I’m tired of hearing this. Talent means nothing. Talent does not a team make. If talent mattered, USC would play for the NCAA Championship. Coaching is what matters. Strategy is what matters. Lloyd got outcoached by a “less talented” Oregon team. Lloyd is a pu&&y as a coach. He constantly talks about how he “loves” this team after every loss. It’s the most beta male garbage I’ve ever heard said by a basketball coach in over 46 years following the sport. For whatever reason, he’s married to Boswell starting and playing significant minutes. He plays zone when the other team is scorching hot from 3. He never pulls guys out of the game for making mistakes and just leaves them in with 0 accountability. Bottom line, Lloyd is not a very good X’s and O’s guy and not a motivator. He treats his players as though he’s buddies with them when he should be their head coach. This team is done for the year. Next week doesn’t even matter anymore. Because it all ends next week. We’ve seen this movie before and know exactly how it ends.
We’re not a good team. The stats and eyes don’t lie. There is always next year to look forward to. As for this team, its season is over. Next week is nothing more than just going through the motions before this team is put out of its misery.
@@rickJesusBassPhoto realist. Because over the past 25 years, we’ve won countless pac-12 titles and tournament championships. Have had great ratings and everything in between. We’ve not been to a final 4, in 25 years. So we’ve learned to identify the weaknesses that plagued all the previous 25 Arizona teams, and this time around, we can see them as clear as day on this Arizona team. These weaknesses tell us that this team will likely not make it out of the first weekend.
This game was compromised, several key U of A players are compromised and Dante. The script was executed flawlessly. Pretend like Dante is not going to play , followed by Arizona players playing very weak, refs making a shit load of questionable calls-Padilla always implicated in rigged games. Once you see it, you can't unsee it 😂
Arizona fans need to relax when the team wins we love coach and and all the players but soon as they lose we call to get the coach fired… Tommy is going to be judged in March for a third year coach I think we are heading in the right direction
Its Post season so the team thought it would start to choke early and avoid the rush. Arizona is done for this year. #NoHeart #ChronicUnderachievers #LloydPostSeasonCHOKE
Just signed a huge extension and can't coach himself out of a paper bag. Pac12 poy on the bench coach staring at his little paper head down. Maybe a coach woth experience is what we needed not a 1st time assistant coach. ANYONE CAN WIN WITH THIS TALLENT WHAT EXACTLY IS TOMMY BRINGING TO THE TABLE?
As someone stated below, i am getting fucking tired of this bullshit inconsistent play. The talent on his team is being skewered in a fire and the choking year in and out isnt a joke.
Love and Boswell often don’t play cerebral basketball. These are young players, they’ll get better , mayb just not this year. I can definitely see the frustration in TL, he’s not happy, but he keeps it classy.
On the bright side, Tommy has never lost back to back games so at least we're guaranteed a second round(?)
At some point we're gonna lose 2 in a row. It's certainly possible w the way we're playing it could be now
Totally out coached and out played. OREGON was đown to 7 scholarship players. Arizona starts 5 seniors. Arizona had home court with the unfair 6 hour drive AND STILL LOST.
no they don't. boswell is a sophomore.
Jeff. Oregon started 2 true freshmen in Shelstad and Evans.
Lute Olson record
NCAA Tournament: 24 Years
9 1st Round
3 2nd round
4 Sweet 16
3 Elite Eight
2 Final Fours
1 Runner Up
1 Championship
Give Tommy a break. Lute had 1 final four every 6 years if you average it and early exits (round 1 or2) as a 1-4 seed 9 times. It isn't easy.
Go CATS! Bear Down!
What’s the point of this? And your numbers are wrong. Lute took Arizona to 4 final fours and 2 championship games. This program hasn’t been to the final 4 in 25 years since Lute retired. And it’s no threat to get there this year either.
As fans we’re just praying to avoid yet another 1st round embarrassment.
We’re the laughing stock of the NCAA tournament.
No program has had more talent and accomplished less in the NCAA than Arizona. Sadly we will have to resort to what is all too common now, “Next Year.”
As for this team. It’s done. It’s cooked.
Check the math it is the same:) My list shows where Lute's teams ended. The point is that even the great Lute Olson didn't find it easy every year. Some people on this thread are hating without any real data under Lloyd's tenure, 2 years.@@bridgetekcommunications332
This coach is too nice, you can’t win being nice. Trying to be a top notch program requires passion, intensity, and a killer instinct. All the talent in world can’t get you to a championship without grit!
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Good recruiter, not good at making second half adjustments. Early exit coming up, again.
arizona isn't a top notch program only 1 natty
Coach Lloyd is a good man but to soft. I do not want a screaming Sean Miller but.......
Lloyd's making sure to protect his enormous salary. There's a reason why he spent 20 years at Gonzaga in the weeds. He remains an assistant mentality among a crowd of assistant coaches.
Everyone jumps on a band wagon. I've never heard so many negative comments about coach. Loyd ever. Someone said that it wasn't Oregon's best game.Not sure what game you were watching because they just totally outplayed us. How funny though if we would have won all you haters would be saying high praises and way to go Tommy!! It's not over till it's over #4
It was over the day the UA signed a 20 year assistant coach from Gonzaga to compete with the moneyed hitmen of the NCAA.
The coaching staff was delusional in their approach tonight. Donate tonight’s portion of your salary as coaches to local Tucson charities please. You make outrageous money compared to most in our community. You simply did not earn it tonight!
I need this entire coaching staff to step it the hell up. I get the players are the ones on the court but it starts with the direction and demeanor of their leaders/mentors! We require a lot from our coaches like we require a lot from our players. Look yourselves in the mirror and STEP IT UP. 6 games left.
I have watched teams playing their hearts out in conference tournaments and then I watch Arizona and want to cry. 😮 There is no motivation, no maximum effort
It's going to be a long road after Tommy's extension if he can't learn from last year. Giving the players freedom might have been a winning strategy as an assistant and a recruiter when Mark Few could step up when the team needed a forceful hand to get them through the tough games. But you can't let the players run the team on the court 100% of the time. They're kids, they don't know how to win in most situations. If they did they wouldn't be playing college ball.
I so agree!
Lloyd's stuck with an assistant coach's mentality. Groomed as an assistant in over 20 years in the weeds at Gonzaga was no doubt sweet poison. As Lute liked to say, a zebra never loses its stripes.
I don't understand the constant ho-hummness of this man
Regroup and get ready for the real tournament 😼🐻⬇️
I swear to God, reading some of these comments it’s like charger fans, or cowboy fans I really like Lloyd and I believe in our team I think this is one of the best teams that we’ve had since we won the championship. I’m not giving up on them and the coach knows what he’s doing. I’m hearing people say he doesn’t know how to make halftime adjustments just because this last game didn’t work we dominate in the second half from adjustments. And I’ve never seen so many Arizona fans sounding like there Fairweather fans.
I believe that this loss was planned, we decided to not knock our selves and save energy against a third game against wash state, 2nd, bumping us back to the second tier where its more likely as in the past history there are more upsets against #1 seeds v/s #2 seeds that aren't as crazy about knocking out a #1 team!!
I'm happy this happened 🎉🎉🎉
Big time coaches win big time games
These guys gotta want it more than the fans and their opponents do
Same bullshit coming from Lloyd. Altman was running up the sideline w fire & passion during their comeback while Lloyd sat on his ass or stood w his hands in his pocket w nothing to say like a lost dog. Boswell is beyond pathetic. Avg 3.7 pts last 3 games shooting like 17%. Don't get me started about his lack of D either. Ballo had ZERO shots in the entire 2nd half against Dante playing on 1 leg w 3 or 4 fouls. Why? Either our pg can't get him the ball and/or Lloyd ran zero plays for him. Teams play w the mentality like their coach. Huggins, Sampson, D Hurley all have teams that play hard just like their demeanor. We play soft & at times give up just like Tommy's Mr Nice Guy personality. At this point there's nothing new to learn you either know what to do or you don't. You either know how to beat a zone, defend against the high screen by their big, feed our post players or we don't. You've had 7 mos to learn. Oh, & don't get me started about Love the last 3 games. Kid shoots 87% FT for the yr & today he's 1-4. He's lost it mentally. It's in his head. Must've given up 5+ open looks today. This team should at least make the final 8 w the talent & senior players we have, anything less is a failure. It's great to win all these regular season games but it means nothing if you lose early in the tourn. Look at Few at Zaga as the poster boy of someone who wins during the season & never gets things done come tourney. Same Mr Nice Guy as Lloyd
Right you are! And don't forget Lloyd spent 20 years in the weeds at Gonzaga as an assistant. Must've been sweet poison. I just don't believe being the alpha dog is in Lloyd's DNA.
What the heck does he have to smile about? Sick of the playing down to less talented opponents. That is on the coach
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maybe a small bit less talented. but oregon has been decimated by injuries all year. they are pulling it together quickly
Oregon fan here… AZ has kicked Oregon’s ass all year… they’re a better team for sure but I think it was clear that Oregon wanted that game more and obviously needed to win that game more than AZ. AZ will still have a deep deep run that honestly will probably see them in the Final 4. Calm down and stop doubting your team that has basically dominated everyone and hasn’t had a million injuries like Oregon has. We’d kill to be in your spot
It's called keeping your team's confidence up. That IS coaching.
Whaddya want him to do? Cuss? Stamp his feet? Scream and yell?
@@jayminbernhardt4952 I hope you're right. I'll just say this, other teams that should make the Final Four (UConn, Houston) don't get tripped up by a zone and don't lose to the bottom teams in their (much better) conferences.
Frustrating loss tonight. We played shockingly bad. Need our players especially seniors to be better. Ballo was only bright spot I guess
The biggest issue going into the tournament is nobody fears Arizona. They know they are beatable by any team on any night. Play hard and you probably win. I have to think that whoever draws Arizona will be thankful. Not a good position for Arizona to be in headed into the tournament and likely means yet another early exit.
Fans so fickle. Many good teams losing in conference tourney. The real deal is bigger tourney stage. Purdue n Tennessee not throwing in the towel n we should not. Better to get more rest before nextcweekend
Let's be real! This Cats team is overrated and does not have the tenacity to get pass the second round of the big tournament. Prove me wrong, Wildcats!
No apologies to the fans for losing. Take responsibility 😊
Bummer. Hey, it happens ... nothing falls and then you don't wanna be the next shooter to miss. Other side, they were making some circus shots and steals. Oh well. Ya never know on any given day.
Maybe next year coach, this team is too reliant on Love, talented but lack leader ship, Miles Simmons are hard to find.
Thinking the same on Simon's of '97 LEADERSHIP!
I hope we play way out east and play Iowa state
Is it frustrating? Absolutely!…but AZ fans always whine and complain and expect apologies. Being a true fan means standing with your team through the ups and downs. This is an outstanding team that unfortunately plays on fire together and cold as ice together….they are exciting to watch and don’t owe us anything! They have definitely had some head scratchers but the vast majority of games their effort is there….this is a final four capable team and most teams don’t beat us the first time around….have faith and Bear Down
Here we go,final,,az 58 long Beach 57,in OT
Does our team practice shooting contested shots? Because i swear if there is a hand near (especially Pelle) a shooter on a 3, it's going to be a brick
Lloyd is a fist class coach. It is so easy for bandwagon jumpers to complain after a loss. Love has had a great year and the team has become dependent on his scoring. It was well known that Love's play is mercurial and at times out of control/inconsistent. When Love is ON, it is easy for the team to become complacent. When he struggles, it is really difficult to win. To go far into the tournament, Larssen and Johnson will have to demonstrate Senior leadership and grit, particularly when the other team is making a run or Love's shots aren't gong in. Love, Boswell, and Bradley shot combined 5/21--not going to get it done. Still rooting for these young men to kick butt in the tourney. Go Cats!
Lloyd is delusional. He has no strategy or answer. He just does the same shit over and over again hoping it just works.. his starting 2 guards are 11-57 the last 3 games. His 2 guys that don’t start are 16-34
The issue is inconsistency. We have the talent to go to the Final 4.... however, this talent does not rise consistently
@@bridgetekcommunications332 I really hate to admit it but you are right!!
@@rickJesusBassPhoto I’m tired of hearing this. Talent means nothing. Talent does not a team make. If talent mattered, USC would play for the NCAA Championship. Coaching is what matters. Strategy is what matters. Lloyd got outcoached by a “less talented” Oregon team.
Lloyd is a pu&&y as a coach. He constantly talks about how he “loves” this team after every loss. It’s the most beta male garbage I’ve ever heard said by a basketball coach in over 46 years following the sport. For whatever reason, he’s married to Boswell starting and playing significant minutes. He plays zone when the other team is scorching hot from 3. He never pulls guys out of the game for making mistakes and just leaves them in with 0 accountability. Bottom line, Lloyd is not a very good X’s and O’s guy and not a motivator.
He treats his players as though he’s buddies with them when he should be their head coach.
This team is done for the year. Next week doesn’t even matter anymore. Because it all ends next week. We’ve seen this movie before and know exactly how it ends.
Final. Arizona 58,,long Beach 57 in Ot or 2nd OT
Tommys face says it all. LAZY, AND NO HEART!
Facts
You should take his job. Should be easy right?
AND WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE LLOYD SPENT 20+ YEARS IN THE WEEDS AT GONZAGA AS AN ASSISTANT.
only 1 final 4 since 2000
Motivation is an issue. We lost to a team that did not play a good game..... the stats do not lie.
We’re not a good team. The stats and eyes don’t lie. There is always next year to look forward to. As for this team, its season is over. Next week is nothing more than just going through the motions before this team is put out of its misery.
@@bridgetekcommunications332 are you a fatalist???
@@rickJesusBassPhoto realist. Because over the past 25 years, we’ve won countless pac-12 titles and tournament championships. Have had great ratings and everything in between.
We’ve not been to a final 4, in 25 years. So we’ve learned to identify the weaknesses that plagued all the previous 25 Arizona teams, and this time around, we can see them as clear as day on this Arizona team. These weaknesses tell us that this team will likely not make it out of the first weekend.
This is a plug one hole two more holes give out situation. Coach Lloyd wouldn’t know what to do if he had a real leader on this team.
This game was compromised, several key U of A players are compromised and Dante. The script was executed flawlessly. Pretend like Dante is not going to play , followed by Arizona players playing very weak, refs making a shit load of questionable calls-Padilla always implicated in rigged games. Once you see it, you can't unsee it 😂
Coming from a UConn fan- he sure ain’t no Hurley- embarrassing.
In droughts find the hot hand and run plays for him
Same old excuses
My old Boys club team can beat Tommy's loosers
One and done again,,fire the coach
Same crap every year,,hire Rick patino,,fire Tommy Lloyd
Pelle Larson is a weak spot not aggressive on defense and soft on the glass. NC State playing with passion and will to win.
Very disappointing. Up 10 at half....not sure if this team has the make up to even get to the sweet 16.
This team is done. It’s cooked. Next week is nothing more than just going through the motions before this team is out of its misery.
Arizona fans need to relax when the team wins we love coach and and all the players but soon as they lose we call to get the coach fired… Tommy is going to be judged in March for a third year coach I think we are heading in the right direction
This years team is like a a ROLLER COASTER!!
LOSING IS NOT HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
They won't get past the second round.
Its Post season so the team thought it would start to choke early and avoid the rush. Arizona is done for this year. #NoHeart #ChronicUnderachievers #LloydPostSeasonCHOKE
AZ is either going to flame out the first weekend vs inferior opponents who AZ has sleepwalked against all year or get to the F4.
Exactly, that's why it's called March Madness, you never know!
@Southpaw86 What we do know is it's been over 20 years since they went to a Final Four so it's more likely they don't make it there
Just signed a huge extension and can't coach himself out of a paper bag. Pac12 poy on the bench coach staring at his little paper head down. Maybe a coach woth experience is what we needed not a 1st time assistant coach. ANYONE CAN WIN WITH THIS TALLENT WHAT EXACTLY IS TOMMY BRINGING TO THE TABLE?
this team does not belong here, more excuses
As someone stated below, i am getting fucking tired of this bullshit inconsistent play. The talent on his team is being skewered in a fire and the choking year in and out isnt a joke.
Fire him right now.
Intelligent comment.
@@harvsan very
Love and Boswell often don’t play cerebral basketball. These are young players, they’ll get better , mayb just not this year. I can definitely see the frustration in TL, he’s not happy, but he keeps it classy.
I’ve had enough of this coach. No energy or passion blah blah blah
This team is mediocre at best. Can’t make free throws will cost you. They will be 1 and done in the NCAA tournament. Go practice free throws…….
They’ll get eliminated in either the first or second round of the tournament. Arizona has just fizzled out!
This team is too soft
ALL Arizona teams play soft, even back in Lute's salad days.
Go Ducks UofA Sucks.
Pac 12 gone. UofA broke. Good time to shut the program down.
We are BiPolar....
We won’t make it past the 2nd round
You got that right @@D1_Papi
100% and that’s because Boswell is allowed to play starter minutes. Lloyd is delusional starting Boswell vs Bradley. 100% delusional