The YT algorithm brought your video to my attention this morning; timely. Checked tracking, the 67i I ordered arrived at our PO box overnight. The 67i replaces a 62s, a big step up. Your setup demonstration will save me a lot of time, confusion and frustration. I leave for two weeks in Death Valley tomorrow morning. I need to complete setup promptly. Thanks for the clear and concise guidance.
Thanks for the review. I just upgraded from the 66i to the 67i. I really wanted the battery life. Also, I got Outdoor Maps+. I am satisfied with it so far.
Great review. My 67i arrives tomorrow. I bought the 66i 2 weeks ago and have returned it. Battery and USB C were must haves for me. After seeing the 66i accuracy comparison, I'm glad I'm swapping.
This is a great video. This is the review that made me buy this device. It would be great if you made a longer video with cool and useful features you use while hiking.
When I saw the 67i was out, my first thought was to see what you had to say about it--your reviews are cogent, lucid, and thankfully linear! Bless you for it. I'd love to see battery life and accuracy compared when WAAS/EGNOS is inactive versus active. To me, the biggest attraction of the 67i is the battery life--that would allow me to downsize my portable battery pack to support only my IPhone, which on multiday trips is always put to airplane mode and used only as a camera except for rare "in coverage" times to check messages. And I think you're too kind on Garmin's "clunky" Bluetooth integration and confusing suite of phone apps--they not only combine functions oddly, but connectivity is a sucker's game. I found that using Connect would inevitably screw up BT connection with Explorer, and sometimes I'd spend an hour or more jumping through Garmin's troubleshooting hoops to get either connected. That's negligent nonsense in this day and age. And when I updated my 66i to firmware 9.50 and downloaded the Messenger app, I never did succeed in getting the unit to connect with the app. At this point, I have only Explorer on the IPhone, and that mainly for ease in messaging when I need to text a lot and am reasonably certain my battery life will sustain that.
Thanks for the review! Was looking into buying a 66i but will probably end up with the 67i. Can't wait to watch your longer review. Completely agree that it should have battery percentage and have been in the connect software already.
Thank you for your first impressions. I‘m currently using a Garmin inReach Explorer+ due to the long battery life and ease of use in an expedition setting. This device draw my attention due to the battery improvements. It would be very nice of you, if you could give your opinion comparing these two devices in your review. On the first sight the 67i looks very promising, yet more fragile and complicated compared to the Explorer+. Thank you very much for your coverage. 😊
Good suggestion, will do a compare on the Explorer - first thought is that it would be a great replacement. The 6x series is much better for navigation than the Explorer once you jump through all the hoops to get it going
I gave up on this one and returned it for the 66SR. So far the 66SR works perfectly. Wifi connected easily without any issues. I know the battery life isn't as good as the 67 so hopefully I won't regret.
I own the 66i as well as the inReach Mini That thing is a brick!!. I love it for overloading & backpacking Otherwise I'll use my inReach Mini for hiking, MTB, Snowboarding, Kayaking & so forth Much love from Colorado
Great video, gave you a sub. I have a 66i, just purchased it. Did not think the 67 was worth the extra dough for the improvements. Used this to set up my 66i.
Great review. I've just ordered the 67i, currently owning a 66sr. I'm buying it for its (much improved) battery life, Inreach functionality (I'm usually traveling / hiking alone, so it's worth it). The 66sr already had multiband, so no improvements there I expect. I'll probably sell it. Now, I've always felt that Garmin is brilliant with hardware. The software however is an absolute disgrace. I've worked in IT for over 30 years now, so hopefully my opinion is worth something here. I often have a hard time figuring out .. well.. basically EVERYTHING garmin. And if I have a hard time with it, how about those who aren't as IT-minded as I am? I mean.. just look at the App landscape, which is terribly confusing. Then the terminology they use for tracks/courses/activities/etc..etc..etc. I mean, seriously... if you don't get lost out in the field, then certainly in the Garmin ecosystem. :) Someone who's less tech-minded and looks at things from a user interest should really be hired by Garmin.
Agree 100% - it's all a big mess, and to add to the confusion, some models have odd variations in the menus that don't correspond to funcitonality differences - for example in this video, the 67i has "course alerts" and the 66i does not, even though there is no logical reason not to have it. Or the fact that courses work differently on a handheld than they do on a watch. It just all feels like a patchwork. And stuff like renaming "live tracking" (logical) to "tracking" (easily confused with internal tracking) for satellite tracking just makes no sense.
Also considering moving to a 67i from a 66sr. Battery life has been acceptable to me. Same screen, same multiband. USB-C would be nice... and the 66sr came out late enough that it should have included it. Please share your feedback!
@@mbrick I’ve used the 67i for a few weeks during my vacation. If there’s any improvement, it’s not much. (compared to the 66sr). For me, the general responsiveness of the UI (going through menus and such) isn’t really an issue. Panning and zooming in maps however is rather slow, and it always has been on Garmin devices. Espessially if you choose to use a lot of detail in your maps. Main reason to buy 67i is the impressive battery life.
I noticed hat when charging my new 67i with my apple MacBook Pro charger; which has the same USB connection that it gave the percentage as it was charging the device on the screen. That was pretty cool, my Garmin charger didn't do that. Once it's 100% charger and you unplug the USB connection, the device just shows the Green square. So far I am loving this 67i . Tks for the videos.
I'm able to see the percentage when I'm charged on any source, not sure why it's not working on the Garmin charger. Will check again. And yea, that percentage is great but there's no percentage when not plugged in, which is a bit of a bummer. Overall the 67i is prob the best handheld so far. Waiting for some answers from Garmin but full review coming soon.
Thank you! You took some of the mystery out of the pairing problems. Very helpful to this tech challenged human. Look forward to your future videos on this.
One thing I would be curious about in any review of the Garmin 67i, and you might have already done it, is what maps are automatically available if you use the 67i in a marine environment, or you take it overseas to use somewhere such as New Zealand or Europe. Or in the alternative how hard and/or expensive is it to load them? Sorry if I am behind the times, but it was a royal pain on the GPSmap76CSx, which is still what I use if I am not using AllTrails or other maps on my phone. I don't need a lot of detail, just some general comments as to what to expect. Thanks for your informative videos. I see over to the right that you have already produced new videos which might answer my questions, but this one had popped up and I quickly watched it.
Nice review. I returned my 66sr long ago when I bought it. It and the replacement had charging issues. Just bad connectors/design. I love the gpsmaps form factor. I'd like to see a comparison with 66sr.
Thanks for the review. Although clunky and quirky, the 66i has been a reliable navigation tool for me after reading your initial reviews. Basecamp still works and where it doesn’t, I use Caltopo and import routes per your suggestion. I think I’ll wait for Garmins next upgrade device before venturing into the 67i.
Garmin firmware reminds me of Android/Blackberry before Steve Jobs turned up and showed the world what a smartphone should look and operate like... Garmin continues to put out low-effort hardware/firmware pairings due to the fact they basically have no competitors in the pro hiking market, so you can bet your bottom dollar that if they still have zero real competitors in the year 2030, they'll still be creating gear powered by AA batteries with firmware reminiscent of a 2003 Motorola RAZR. And no, this is not a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", because any sane technologically literate person knows they should be doing better than this janky shit decades into their existence. I mean, look at the fkn screen bezel on that 67i for fk sake, along with the refresh rate of the compass and menu system. You can absolutely tell that they're running a chipset that was outdated 10 years ago, let alone today...
I hate that everything nowadays comes with built batteries, I had an old version of these GPS and I liked that they used AA batteries. They would last for days. I always carried three to four sets of extra batteries while backpacking. That was more than enough for over a week. Is the battery removable in this unit? If yes, how much is each additional battery? Alkaline batteries can hold their charge for 7 to 10 years. I doubt that rechargeable batteries can hold the charge even half that. I also wonder, does the SOS works if you don’t subscribe? I am not talking about texting people or getting the weather. I am talking about calling fir help if you are in trouble.
@@BikerGirlTraveler I just got this thing. I can’t answer your questions regarding replacement batteries and the SOS feature because I just don’t know. As far as keeping your unit charged while backpacking, have you thought of a solar panel and battery pack? That’s the route I plan to use when I get in the woods.
Love your reviews and really anxious to see your full review of the 67i. You said in this video that you would have a full review in a few weeks, any idea when it will be up? Thanks HG!
Hey man seems that you know a lot about GPS devices which device that you recommend for recording the track with high precision with very high quality data some device the check for GPS very fast. Sam is very slow phones. For example they check once per second incentivised to check 10× per second. I would like to use one device that I could record data and then exports to the computer later, which device do you recommend?
Nice unboxing and first information. I am looking forward to the Garmin eTrex SE review. My question about the eTrex SE, is it possible to import a custom small map just like the older eTrex 10?
Much appreciated the review. So to conclude. If I have a fancy modern smart phone, and I already am familiar with Gaia GPS(is there a better app?) My already existing phone is better than these standalone GPS devices? So who are they for? What is the edge? Thank you
Thanks for the first impressions! Question for the full review: how do the maps of Outdoor Maps+ compare to the traditional TopoActive maps? And I would also be interested in more details about speed comparison (e.g. map redraw).
Garmin firmware reminds me of Android/Blackberry before Steve Jobs turned up and showed the world what a smartphone should look and operate like... Garmin continues to put out low-effort hardware/firmware pairings due to the fact they basically have no competitors in the pro hiking market, so you can bet your bottom dollar that if they still have zero real competitors in the year 2030, they'll still be creating gear powered by AA batteries with firmware reminiscent of a 2003 Motorola RAZR. And no, this is not a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", because any sane technologically literate person knows they should be doing better than this janky shit decades into their existence. I mean, look at the fkn screen bezel on that 67i for fk sake, along with the refresh rate of the compass and menu system. You can absolutely tell that they're running a chipset that was outdated 10 years ago, let alone today...
You walked right past the office building I used to work in across from the Fashion Island. My office (which I'm rarely at) is in a different part of Newport Beach on the waterfront. Brings back memories of getting lunch in the food court with my colleagues. I was thinking about getting the 67i, but I don't think there's enough value added to replace my 66i. Maybe if it had a better screen (with touch option), more sleek design, or greatly increased responsiveness, but it looks like Garmin punted by just increasing battery life (which is nice, but my hikes hardly ever last more than a day) and added multi-band (again, it's nice, but not enough). I'd certainly go for this model if I was forced to buy it all over again, but it looks like the 66i will soldier on for another generation. Thanks for the impression, it really helped.
Ha that's great - yea, I was going through the office building at Fashion Island. And yes, unless you have a specific need for multi-band or the longer battery, no need to get the 67i. I was wishing there would be something a little more substantial too but they'll probably make it a new model.
Excellent. Thats how all videos should be. What's a Course ? Can I transfer Tracks | Route | Course using a PC-Cable, Bluetooth , Google Drive or Microsoft OneDrive ? Can I load OSM Maps ?
Thanks for a first impressions. I really wished the 66i had the USB-C just for reliability. Garmin relesed the 66i when USB-C was already pretty common in consumer devices. I've got an Epix Gen 2 for times I need better tracking than the 66i so I'm not likely to spend another $600 for a 66i to 67i upgrade. I appreciate you very much.
Thank you and yea, I'm thinking I'll do an Epix/F7 comparison here because aside from the form factor, you can do a lot of the core functions with the same accuracy on the watch
I wasn't especially serious, but I looked at an expensive Garmin unit, and it still had micro USB. It saved a lot of money, as it made my decision easy to reject something so expensive that had a primitive USB plug. Glad they are finally migrating to USB C. I imagine Apple is going to do that with their new iPhone, finally going to USB C like they have already done on their computers.
Thank you for the review. Wondering if you've had a chance to check the Wifi on this unit. I've noticed issues trying to stay connected to the Wifi while trying to download maps.
I'm still attached to my Garmin 62ST & see no reason to replace it.😀 And I've still not replaced my 4g Flip phone for a so-called "Smart" phone. You guessed it; I'm still using a bladder/drink tube/bite valve instead of so-called "Smart" water bottles. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Ha yea, use what works for you - overall this is all just people trained to get the biggest and best next thing - def no need to upgrade unless you have a specific need
I'm five minutes in this video and I'm already dizzy. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. I have to go to one place to connect my Fenix to my phone to upload the data, and a second place to upload routes to my watch. I shouldn't be surprised there's a third place to activate the messenger service XD
New subscriber and super impressed by the object and through review. Do you have an engineering background or are you a tech guy and love the adventure and experience
Nice video. However, how did U upload/transfer your existing GPX (I guess?) to the GPS? I've just bought a 67 (my first gps ever), and I'm still learning the basics... Appreciate it if you have another video explaining all this lifecycle meaning downloading a GPX from any of the many internet sites like wikiloc, etc., uploading it to the GPS, convert it if needed, and so on, etc., etc., etc... Thanks a lot
Will do a quick video on that, thanks for suggesting Quick workflow: 1 - download GPX file and save it 2 - Open Garmin Explore and import GPX (ideally on phone but web will sync too) 3 - Once the GPX is imported as Course, you can send to 67 and navigate with it
I recently misplaced one of my Garmin Oregon series GPS units and was looking at this one. I'd go with the non-InReach version since I already have the InReach Mini. I wish Garmin would come out with a new Oregon Series. I like the touchscreen and size of the Oregon series. I do have a question for your review, though - or perhaps just answer it here. Regarding the power button, is it still an internal switch covered by a rubber pad? I've had four Garmin GPS units where that rubber push button failed, making it very difficult to power on the units. You have to poke a stick or something inside to activate the switch. Needless to say, once that rubber button is gone, the unit is no longer waterproof. My primary use for the GPS is geocaching and creating tracks of my explorations. Really just to see where I've been. Since buying the original eTrex way back in 2001, I have never used the follow track / route function you reviewed here. I do like the Garmin FINALLY got on the USB-C bandwagon!
@ what???? lol I go to Newport all the time, I’ve never seen that? 😂😂 separate question: I have the 66i but I do go snowmobiling deep in the backcountry with cold temps affecting battery life of most devices and I do have the potential of getting stuck in the backcountry for days. Do you think it would be safer for me to get the 67i for the battery power?
The Garmin 66sr has Glonoss, while the Garmin 67i does not - on this great video the new GPS67 was shown to be more accurate in challenging situation, BUT how about the 66SR vs 67I - any thoughts or test data?
@@mbrick : I have the 67 (not the "i" version) and mine has GPS, Glonass, Beidau and Galileo. I'm in the UK so maybe which satellites are available depends on where you buy the unit.
I have the original Mini. Do you think this is a good upgrade as a primary device while keeping Mini as backup, or Mini is still good? I really think Earthmate will reach end of life soon at this rate?
Backpacking used to be a no brainer back in the day (I'm an older guy). We used to say, let's go on a whim and we were out the door. No GPS or anything MIT has come out with ever used. I reckon that may be the difference between a really long walk and an adventure. I'm not knocking this gear as it has it's time and place. Now that I'm a little bit older and a little bit slower I am doing some initial research into some GPS gear. For someone like me who only does a deep wilderness dive only once or twice a year the cost (especially in this economic climate) is too steep. Us poor folk without MIT degrees will just have to trudge on with our compasses, paper maps and grease pencils. 🤠
You can buy many legacy eTrex 20 or 30 units for much less than what these new ones cost. I have a eTrex 30x and it's more than enough for me (I'm also into solo hiking, cycling, canoeing, etc., and am older, too).
Yet another well thought out and quality informational video and thanks for posting. Tip, GPS units like compasses will affect each other in close proximity,. GPS units emit rf and the antenna's will interfere with each other causing accuracy problems.
I heard that a few years ago and did some informal tests and couldn't replicate the inaccuracy. As @Gtpits mentions, they're only receiving, so logically it shouldn't matter unless the board produces some type of EMF or bleed from BT I guess. If anyone has any videos or tests that demonstrate this, I'd love to check it out so please share. && BTW when testing I had the 66 and 67 about 1 foot apart on either side of my body.
I just need a simple reliable handheld navigational GPS to help me in my gold prospecting excursions here in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of Northern California. I don’t need all the fancy extras that this seems to have. I will never remember how to use. I have a Garmin 62s but the compass does not calibrate anymore and the one of the battery prongs had broken off so I’m looking for a new unit. I do like the big screen however.
Hi, I thought this video was very interesting. You did a good job covering the difference between the Garmin GPSMap 66i and 67i, but would you be able to make a video about how to use the Garmin GPSMap 67(i) (the menus, controls, how to download maps, settings, etc.)? So basically a tutorial? Thank you!
I’m looking at buying a handheld GPS unit. Now that the 67i has been released, I found a sale of the 66i for 30% off. Do you think the multi-band and battery from the 67i are a big enough draw to ignore the heavy discounts on the 66i? The USB-C in the 67i is definitely a plus but not a dealbreaker for me.
If you don't need the extra accuracy and can live with the battery (still decent) and want to save money, the 66 is still solid. The 67 is otherwise pretty much the same.
Have watched 3 videos on this unit so far and no one has addressed the cost of the different tiers of the iNreach subscriptions. So, what is the cost ?
Have you found any difference on transmitting power of the 66i-67i and inreach mini? Does one connect faster than the other? I find the mini taking a long time to get GPS fixes. Does a SOS signal get thru faster than a regular message?
Very good review. I purchased the 67 version and had a question, I hoped you may know the answer. I use my 67 for hiking so I downloaded the GPX files to the 67. When on the trail the little blue direction arrow is great, but is there any way to draw/show a line that indicates where my breadcrumbs are recorded over the GPX trail? (Basically some visual indication of my actual progress)
I think you can just change the color of your recorded track to something different than the track that you're following - support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=w04AC4BN074X1VLLNsT3m9#:~:text=Changing%20the%20Track%20Color%20of%20the%20Current%20Activity&text=Using%20the%20direction%20pad%2C%20navigate,desired%20color%20and%20press%20Enter.
Great video! I am looking for a small lightweight GPS and Satellite communicator for Dual Sport motorcycle riding. I don't have a big bike so don't want a big touchscreen GPS device on my handlebars, so I'm wondering if you think this would be the best option for my needs or if you have any other recommendations?
I just realized a important question: Are there any Garmin handheld GPS device that can be connect to a iPad/ or any android tablet to act as a external GPS for tablet? If so, that would be amazing. I do know Garmin GLO external GPS can do that but using a handheld GPS would be 10x more useful.
Stuck between grabbing this 67i or the Garmin Mini inReach 2. Can't decide if I want to stick with just my phone for GPS and go Mini 2 or get a unit that does dedicated GPS (67i). Thoughts, ideas?
I’m looking into this device mainly for the communications portion so I can communicate with my wife via text messaging. Does the text message have to be sent through your phone or does it go through the device? Could you speak more on this please or just shoot a comment on here that would be awesome. Thanks.
Good info. Thank you. Can’t wait for the full review. Your 66i review was instrumental in my eventual purchase of that device. I’m trying to figure out why you have the “Course Alerts” feature toggle available under your 66i’s “Routing” settings, between “Course Navigation” and “Advanced Setup,” but mine is missing. Thought it might have been a feature added in a later firmware version, but updating did not fix that issue 🤷♂️
Thank you! Just looked on my 66i - same thing, no "off course alert" - shame on Garmin for offering course support on the 66 and not including that. Really weak. Hopefully it will be included in a future firmware update.
Have you tried to use the 67i with basecamp yet? So i've picked up the 67i up last week, but when i plug it into to my macbook Basecamp says the OEM maps are unreadable. :/
I heard on a Garmin video you can now sync with explore app WITHOUT any internet connection. Could you test this for me. With 4g and Wi-fi off on both devices can you plot a route and sync to device and sync gos tracks back from the device using Bluetooth only on both devices. Thanks
You can sync the device with explore using just Bluetooth, but you can't sync the Explore app with the Explore website without a connection - did that make sense? it can be confusing
Thanks. So if I was in a tent off grid. I could plot a route on the app with a previously downloaded map. Sync it to 67 and fenix. After walk sync the data back to the explore app. Can you also sync to connect app? I know that did not work without an internet connection in the early days which was frustrating
@@MiniEggs1999 Not sure about Connect but will try - but yea, if you created a course with downloaded maps on your Explore app, you could sync to the 67 and do the course
What about loading City Navigator® North America NT via SD card on 67i for Bike/ATV use? Or would the Montana have different type of maps for that sort of thing??
hi ! great video ! could you help out with a product choice? i'm a 3 million plus km walker in almost 2 years the most of it is a solo hiker situation, i want to have an extra safety device for my own piece of mind would you recommend the not the Inreach models of Montana 700 vs the new GPS map 67? pricewise it's a couple of bucks more
Looking at your Montana video now. We hike and eMTB out in the sticks as we travel in our camper van. We have iPhone apps that work almost all the time. Our interest is primarily in the intereach SOS features in a stand alone unit, plus access to the recovery insurance . Your thoughts?
So it's not possible to have both the 67i and mini2 paired to your account at the same time? That's very disappointing as I was wanting to have both. I currently use my mini2 while hiking but wanted to have the option to switch to the 67i for multi day treks or offroad/hunting.
I think you need a professional account to have multiple devices, and you pay a plan for each. Otherwise it's one at a time. It's a pain and I wish I had the flexibility that you described too.
Hi HikingGuy. I'm experiencing some weird behavior in Expedition Mode. With Expedition mode on 'Auto', the screen turns off after 1 minute, instead of the propagated 2 minutes (?). Then, to wake the device back up, I press the Power button... but the backlight remains OFF. I need to push the Power button multiple times to adjust brightness. With Expedition mode on "Prompted", it still goes into expedition mode after 1 minute of inactivity... where it should prompt? But in this mode, the screen backlight does turn on after hitting the power button. This looks very much like Garmin again! ha... :)
And one more thing I noticed: the green light on top of the device starts flashing after screen off, even if Expedtion Mode setting is on "never". From the manual: "Flashing green: The device is in expedition mode.". Huh? So am I in expediton mode, or not?
Do I need to format my 32Gb SD card prior to inserting it into my new 67i to get the unit to recognize it? (I inserted it and connected the 67i to my PC but it doesn't appear to see the card?)
I have a Explorer+ and my biggest issue is sending tracking points when in forest coverage when motorbike riding. From a inreach point of view, will the 66 or 67 be any better?
67 should be better, it transmits at a higher power, but it's always variable - I've done tests in heavy canopy and in the Grand Canyon and it goes through in a minute. I was doing testing under clear blue skies yesterday, and it was 12 minutes.
@Hikingguy thanks for the reply. So since you said in the video that the 66i and 67i inreach were identical, the 66i would be better than the Explorer+?
@@hamish3766 Well, don't really think I said the 66 and 67 are identical. I would go with the 67 since the extra battery life could make a difference in a SOS. Otherwise prob stick with the Explorer+
@@hamish3766 sorry didn't realize that - 67 has higher transmit power and slightly quicker position fix, doesn't always equate to a more reliable inReach send though - overall all inReach and ZOLEO use Iridium Short Burst Data, so the tech is largely the same as it was back to the original Delorme units
I’m looking to purchase a unit that does it all trails and turn by turn street navigation, considering this unit or the Montana, the Montana seems be a full featured unit but a beast, any recommendations, thoughts would be appreciated
The Montana is heavier but has the street nav built in - if you are mainly driving, it's a better bet, but if you're mainly walking / outdoors, I'd go with the 67
@@Stevenfclark good question - I will give it a try when I test - off the top of my head Montana will prob be better for street since it has Citynavigator maps
There is two big problems with the Garmin GPS's. I have been using them for many decades so I know. First, the screen was way too small until just recently, .. took way too long to fix... because the ongoing issue is this: There has been few changes in the last 20+ years!!!!! They still are the same color!!! and they still have the same firmware GUI ! Graphical user interface looks way too much the same as when color was first introduced and before that even. There should be a totally new layout, and have a new base color, like .... white! that would be cool! and of course red and blue. So there it is from someone who has been involved with gps since it was invented.
The YT algorithm brought your video to my attention this morning; timely. Checked tracking, the 67i I ordered arrived at our PO box overnight. The 67i replaces a 62s, a big step up. Your setup demonstration will save me a lot of time, confusion and frustration. I leave for two weeks in Death Valley tomorrow morning. I need to complete setup promptly. Thanks for the clear and concise guidance.
Thanks for the review. I just upgraded from the 66i to the 67i. I really wanted the battery life. Also, I got Outdoor Maps+. I am satisfied with it so far.
Great review. My 67i arrives tomorrow. I bought the 66i 2 weeks ago and have returned it. Battery and USB C were must haves for me. After seeing the 66i accuracy comparison, I'm glad I'm swapping.
Yea def a smart move
This is a great video. This is the review that made me buy this device. It would be great if you made a longer video with cool and useful features you use while hiking.
I've got 4 Garmin devices and recently dealt with them over a out-of-warrantee device and got great customer care.
When I saw the 67i was out, my first thought was to see what you had to say about it--your reviews are cogent, lucid, and thankfully linear! Bless you for it. I'd love to see battery life and accuracy compared when WAAS/EGNOS is inactive versus active. To me, the biggest attraction of the 67i is the battery life--that would allow me to downsize my portable battery pack to support only my IPhone, which on multiday trips is always put to airplane mode and used only as a camera except for rare "in coverage" times to check messages. And I think you're too kind on Garmin's "clunky" Bluetooth integration and confusing suite of phone apps--they not only combine functions oddly, but connectivity is a sucker's game. I found that using Connect would inevitably screw up BT connection with Explorer, and sometimes I'd spend an hour or more jumping through Garmin's troubleshooting hoops to get either connected. That's negligent nonsense in this day and age. And when I updated my 66i to firmware 9.50 and downloaded the Messenger app, I never did succeed in getting the unit to connect with the app. At this point, I have only Explorer on the IPhone, and that mainly for ease in messaging when I need to text a lot and am reasonably certain my battery life will sustain that.
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Thanks for the review! Was looking into buying a 66i but will probably end up with the 67i. Can't wait to watch your longer review. Completely agree that it should have battery percentage and have been in the connect software already.
Thank you for your first impressions. I‘m currently using a Garmin inReach Explorer+ due to the long battery life and ease of use in an expedition setting. This device draw my attention due to the battery improvements. It would be very nice of you, if you could give your opinion comparing these two devices in your review. On the first sight the 67i looks very promising, yet more fragile and complicated compared to the Explorer+. Thank you very much for your coverage. 😊
Good suggestion, will do a compare on the Explorer - first thought is that it would be a great replacement. The 6x series is much better for navigation than the Explorer once you jump through all the hoops to get it going
I gave up on this one and returned it for the 66SR. So far the 66SR works perfectly. Wifi connected easily without any issues. I know the battery life isn't as good as the 67 so hopefully I won't regret.
Just curious, what made you return it? Just the WiFi? Or was there more?
I own the 66i as well as the inReach Mini
That thing is a brick!!. I love it for overloading & backpacking
Otherwise I'll use my inReach Mini for hiking, MTB, Snowboarding, Kayaking & so forth
Much love from Colorado
Great video, gave you a sub. I have a 66i, just purchased it. Did not think the 67 was worth the extra dough for the improvements. Used this to set up my 66i.
Etrex SE! Can’t wait. Can you show us how to load a GPX file from the net onto Garmin explore or onto Gaia? Thank you
yes! will put that in the video
Thank you for the positive and negative reviews.
Great review. I've just ordered the 67i, currently owning a 66sr. I'm buying it for its (much improved) battery life, Inreach functionality (I'm usually traveling / hiking alone, so it's worth it). The 66sr already had multiband, so no improvements there I expect. I'll probably sell it. Now, I've always felt that Garmin is brilliant with hardware. The software however is an absolute disgrace. I've worked in IT for over 30 years now, so hopefully my opinion is worth something here. I often have a hard time figuring out .. well.. basically EVERYTHING garmin. And if I have a hard time with it, how about those who aren't as IT-minded as I am? I mean.. just look at the App landscape, which is terribly confusing. Then the terminology they use for tracks/courses/activities/etc..etc..etc. I mean, seriously... if you don't get lost out in the field, then certainly in the Garmin ecosystem. :) Someone who's less tech-minded and looks at things from a user interest should really be hired by Garmin.
Agree 100% - it's all a big mess, and to add to the confusion, some models have odd variations in the menus that don't correspond to funcitonality differences - for example in this video, the 67i has "course alerts" and the 66i does not, even though there is no logical reason not to have it. Or the fact that courses work differently on a handheld than they do on a watch. It just all feels like a patchwork. And stuff like renaming "live tracking" (logical) to "tracking" (easily confused with internal tracking) for satellite tracking just makes no sense.
Also considering moving to a 67i from a 66sr. Battery life has been acceptable to me. Same screen, same multiband. USB-C would be nice... and the 66sr came out late enough that it should have included it. Please share your feedback!
@christopher Did you receive the 67i? I am most curious if the UI speed is faster (ex a newer processor?). Thanks.
@@mbrick I’ve used the 67i for a few weeks during my vacation. If there’s any improvement, it’s not much. (compared to the 66sr). For me, the general responsiveness of the UI (going through menus and such) isn’t really an issue. Panning and zooming in maps however is rather slow, and it always has been on Garmin devices. Espessially if you choose to use a lot of detail in your maps. Main reason to buy 67i is the impressive battery life.
@@christopher1800 Ok thanks... I'm bummed to hear that the map panning and zooming is still rather slow. I may stick with the 66sr then.
I noticed hat when charging my new 67i with my apple MacBook Pro charger; which has the same USB connection that it gave the percentage as it was charging the device on the screen. That was pretty cool, my Garmin charger didn't do that. Once it's 100% charger and you unplug the USB connection, the device just shows the Green square. So far I am loving this 67i . Tks for the videos.
I'm able to see the percentage when I'm charged on any source, not sure why it's not working on the Garmin charger. Will check again. And yea, that percentage is great but there's no percentage when not plugged in, which is a bit of a bummer. Overall the 67i is prob the best handheld so far. Waiting for some answers from Garmin but full review coming soon.
Thank you! You took some of the mystery out of the pairing problems. Very helpful to this tech challenged human. Look forward to your future videos on this.
One thing I would be curious about in any review of the Garmin 67i, and you might have already done it, is what maps are automatically available if you use the 67i in a marine environment, or you take it overseas to use somewhere such as New Zealand or Europe. Or in the alternative how hard and/or expensive is it to load them?
Sorry if I am behind the times, but it was a royal pain on the GPSmap76CSx, which is still what I use if I am not using AllTrails or other maps on my phone. I don't need a lot of detail, just some general comments as to what to expect. Thanks for your informative videos. I see over to the right that you have already produced new videos which might answer my questions, but this one had popped up and I quickly watched it.
Nice review. I returned my 66sr long ago when I bought it. It and the replacement had charging issues. Just bad connectors/design. I love the gpsmaps form factor. I'd like to see a comparison with 66sr.
Yea for all the hiccups I have to say they're great to operate with one hand. Once you get used to it, it becomes second nature to operate.
Thanks for the quick and independent preview and GPS test !
Thanks for the review. Although clunky and quirky, the 66i has been a reliable navigation tool for me after reading your initial reviews. Basecamp still works and where it doesn’t, I use Caltopo and import routes per your suggestion. I think I’ll wait for Garmins next upgrade device before venturing into the 67i.
Garmin firmware reminds me of Android/Blackberry before Steve Jobs turned up and showed the world what a smartphone should look and operate like... Garmin continues to put out low-effort hardware/firmware pairings due to the fact they basically have no competitors in the pro hiking market, so you can bet your bottom dollar that if they still have zero real competitors in the year 2030, they'll still be creating gear powered by AA batteries with firmware reminiscent of a 2003 Motorola RAZR. And no, this is not a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", because any sane technologically literate person knows they should be doing better than this janky shit decades into their existence. I mean, look at the fkn screen bezel on that 67i for fk sake, along with the refresh rate of the compass and menu system. You can absolutely tell that they're running a chipset that was outdated 10 years ago, let alone today...
@@Funkteon I’ll thumb that even if no one else will! 🎉 👍🏻
It’s true though
Looking forward to the eTrex SE review. Looks like it has a nice contrasty screen.
I hate that everything nowadays comes with built batteries, I had an old version of these GPS and I liked that they used AA batteries. They would last for days. I always carried three to four sets of extra batteries while backpacking. That was more than enough for over a week.
Is the battery removable in this unit? If yes, how much is each additional battery? Alkaline batteries can hold their charge for 7 to 10 years. I doubt that rechargeable batteries can hold the charge even half that.
I also wonder, does the SOS works if you don’t subscribe? I am not talking about texting people or getting the weather. I am talking about calling fir help if you are in trouble.
@@BikerGirlTraveler I just got this thing. I can’t answer your questions regarding replacement batteries and the SOS feature because I just don’t know. As far as keeping your unit charged while backpacking, have you thought of a solar panel and battery pack? That’s the route I plan to use when I get in the woods.
I just noticed on the startup screen, it says the SOS feature requires an active subscription.
Can you tell me if the 67i preloaded maps cover the USVI? Namely St Thomas, St John & St Croix? Love your reviews, thanks for making them.
Love your reviews and really anxious to see your full review of the 67i. You said in this video that you would have a full review in a few weeks, any idea when it will be up? Thanks HG!
Hoping next week, just wrapping some Apple Watch testing & vids (coming soon).
Very helpful, nicely done video!Were walking through the Fashion Island area in Newport Bch, CA. Looks similar .
Hey man seems that you know a lot about GPS devices which device that you recommend for recording the track with high precision with very high quality data some device the check for GPS very fast. Sam is very slow phones. For example they check once per second incentivised to check 10× per second. I would like to use one device that I could record data and then exports to the computer later, which device do you recommend?
Nice unboxing and first information. I am looking forward to the Garmin eTrex SE review. My question about the eTrex SE, is it possible to import a custom small map just like the older eTrex 10?
good question, will check it out, thank you
I hope the 87i will follow suit. Or a Montana 800i. If neither, this will have to do as the most-up-to-date specs.
this coming late summer (2024).
Much appreciated the review. So to conclude. If I have a fancy modern smart phone, and I already am familiar with Gaia GPS(is there a better app?) My already existing phone is better than these standalone GPS devices? So who are they for? What is the edge? Thank you
Thanks for the first impressions! Question for the full review: how do the maps of Outdoor Maps+ compare to the traditional TopoActive maps? And I would also be interested in more details about speed comparison (e.g. map redraw).
Garmin firmware reminds me of Android/Blackberry before Steve Jobs turned up and showed the world what a smartphone should look and operate like... Garmin continues to put out low-effort hardware/firmware pairings due to the fact they basically have no competitors in the pro hiking market, so you can bet your bottom dollar that if they still have zero real competitors in the year 2030, they'll still be creating gear powered by AA batteries with firmware reminiscent of a 2003 Motorola RAZR. And no, this is not a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", because any sane technologically literate person knows they should be doing better than this janky shit decades into their existence. I mean, look at the fkn screen bezel on that 67i for fk sake, along with the refresh rate of the compass and menu system. You can absolutely tell that they're running a chipset that was outdated 10 years ago, let alone today...
Nice video. Could you do a comparison of the 67i and mini 2. I don’t own either and will soon buy one or the other. Thank you again
stay tuned review and comparison coming out this week
You walked right past the office building I used to work in across from the Fashion Island. My office (which I'm rarely at) is in a different part of Newport Beach on the waterfront. Brings back memories of getting lunch in the food court with my colleagues. I was thinking about getting the 67i, but I don't think there's enough value added to replace my 66i. Maybe if it had a better screen (with touch option), more sleek design, or greatly increased responsiveness, but it looks like Garmin punted by just increasing battery life (which is nice, but my hikes hardly ever last more than a day) and added multi-band (again, it's nice, but not enough). I'd certainly go for this model if I was forced to buy it all over again, but it looks like the 66i will soldier on for another generation. Thanks for the impression, it really helped.
I'm still married to my 62ST & see no reason to change.
Ha that's great - yea, I was going through the office building at Fashion Island. And yes, unless you have a specific need for multi-band or the longer battery, no need to get the 67i. I was wishing there would be something a little more substantial too but they'll probably make it a new model.
Yea if it works for you, no reason to buy this.
Excellent.
Thats how all videos should be.
What's a Course ?
Can I transfer Tracks | Route | Course using a PC-Cable, Bluetooth , Google Drive or Microsoft OneDrive ?
Can I load OSM Maps ?
thank you will include all of that
Thanks for a first impressions. I really wished the 66i had the USB-C just for reliability. Garmin relesed the 66i when USB-C was already pretty common in consumer devices. I've got an Epix Gen 2 for times I need better tracking than the 66i so I'm not likely to spend another $600 for a 66i to 67i upgrade. I appreciate you very much.
Thank you and yea, I'm thinking I'll do an Epix/F7 comparison here because aside from the form factor, you can do a lot of the core functions with the same accuracy on the watch
USB-C is a gimmick fad connector and the exact opposite of reliability. Stick to your smartphone fad loser.
I wasn't especially serious, but I looked at an expensive Garmin unit, and it still had micro USB. It saved a lot of money, as it made my decision easy to reject something so expensive that had a primitive USB plug. Glad they are finally migrating to USB C. I imagine Apple is going to do that with their new iPhone, finally going to USB C like they have already done on their computers.
Thank you for the review. Wondering if you've had a chance to check the Wifi on this unit. I've noticed issues trying to stay connected to the Wifi while trying to download maps.
will check
Question: Is there a way to get an audio alert for being OFF-COURSE. ?
I know it’s been a few months but if it’s not too late, I think at 11:50 he does get an audio alert for being off course
Great review! Thank you!
I'm still attached to my Garmin 62ST & see no reason to replace it.😀 And I've still not replaced my 4g Flip phone for a so-called "Smart" phone.
You guessed it; I'm still using a bladder/drink tube/bite valve instead of so-called "Smart" water bottles.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Ha yea, use what works for you - overall this is all just people trained to get the biggest and best next thing - def no need to upgrade unless you have a specific need
I'm five minutes in this video and I'm already dizzy.
Then again, I shouldn't be surprised. I have to go to one place to connect my Fenix to my phone to upload the data, and a second place to upload routes to my watch. I shouldn't be surprised there's a third place to activate the messenger service XD
Another excellent review
New subscriber and super impressed by the object and through review. Do you have an engineering background or are you a tech guy and love the adventure and experience
Thank you! I have a Computer Science background / MIS degree but have always been into tech.
Nice video. However, how did U upload/transfer your existing GPX (I guess?) to the GPS? I've just bought a 67 (my first gps ever), and I'm still learning the basics... Appreciate it if you have another video explaining all this lifecycle meaning downloading a GPX from any of the many internet sites like wikiloc, etc., uploading it to the GPS, convert it if needed, and so on, etc., etc., etc... Thanks a lot
Will do a quick video on that, thanks for suggesting
Quick workflow:
1 - download GPX file and save it
2 - Open Garmin Explore and import GPX (ideally on phone but web will sync too)
3 - Once the GPX is imported as Course, you can send to 67 and navigate with it
I recently misplaced one of my Garmin Oregon series GPS units and was looking at this one. I'd go with the non-InReach version since I already have the InReach Mini. I wish Garmin would come out with a new Oregon Series. I like the touchscreen and size of the Oregon series. I do have a question for your review, though - or perhaps just answer it here. Regarding the power button, is it still an internal switch covered by a rubber pad? I've had four Garmin GPS units where that rubber push button failed, making it very difficult to power on the units. You have to poke a stick or something inside to activate the switch. Needless to say, once that rubber button is gone, the unit is no longer waterproof.
My primary use for the GPS is geocaching and creating tracks of my explorations. Really just to see where I've been. Since buying the original eTrex way back in 2001, I have never used the follow track / route function you reviewed here.
I do like the Garmin FINALLY got on the USB-C bandwagon!
Exact same power button as the 66i - interesting to hear that yours failed, hadn't seenn that before, thanks for sharing.
Wow that’s a beautiful street with the tall buildings and palm trees. What city is that?
Newport Beach, CA
@ what???? lol I go to Newport all the time, I’ve never seen that? 😂😂 separate question: I have the 66i but I do go snowmobiling deep in the backcountry with cold temps affecting battery life of most devices and I do have the potential of getting stuck in the backcountry for days. Do you think it would be safer for me to get the 67i for the battery power?
@@kavehespili Yes, 67i has much better battery so if that's a concern, probably worth upgrading.
The Garmin 66sr has Glonoss, while the Garmin 67i does not - on this great video the new GPS67 was shown to be more accurate in challenging situation, BUT how about the 66SR vs 67I - any thoughts or test data?
Good observation. The 66sr and 67 have GLONASS but the 67i does not. However both the 67 and 67i add BeiDou and IRNSS.
@@mbrick : I have the 67 (not the "i" version) and mine has GPS, Glonass, Beidau and Galileo. I'm in the UK so maybe which satellites are available depends on where you buy the unit.
I have the original Mini. Do you think this is a good upgrade as a primary device while keeping Mini as backup, or Mini is still good? I really think Earthmate will reach end of life soon at this rate?
I'd stick with the Mini unless you need the navigation. The inReach functionality is pretty much the same.
Backpacking used to be a no brainer back in the day (I'm an older guy). We used to say, let's go on a whim and we were out the door. No GPS or anything MIT has come out with ever used. I reckon that may be the difference between a really long walk and an adventure. I'm not knocking this gear as it has it's time and place. Now that I'm a little bit older and a little bit slower I am doing some initial research into some GPS gear. For someone like me who only does a deep wilderness dive only once or twice a year the cost (especially in this economic climate) is too steep. Us poor folk without MIT degrees will just have to trudge on with our compasses, paper maps and grease pencils. 🤠
You can buy many legacy eTrex 20 or 30 units for much less than what these new ones cost. I have a eTrex 30x and it's more than enough for me (I'm also into solo hiking, cycling, canoeing, etc., and am older, too).
@@MrJx4000 I'll check them out ty 🤠
@@vinniethefinger7781, look for used ones, they go forever with 2-AA batteries.
Vinnie the Finger: Plenty of pre-owned GPS units on Ebay.
@@paganphil100 Ty I'll have a go.
Does the 67i have the UK Ordnance Survey grid reference system? The Explorer+ doesn't, and the OS shop was selling it!!
I will check for the review, stay tuned
Ian Wattie: The Map67 has the OS grid system so I assume the "67i" version also has it too.
Yet another well thought out and quality informational video and thanks for posting. Tip, GPS units like compasses will affect each other in close proximity,. GPS units emit rf and the antenna's will interfere with each other causing accuracy problems.
Well no actually, these are receivers, they do not emit anything apart from bluetooth for phone connection
I heard that a few years ago and did some informal tests and couldn't replicate the inaccuracy. As @Gtpits mentions, they're only receiving, so logically it shouldn't matter unless the board produces some type of EMF or bleed from BT I guess. If anyone has any videos or tests that demonstrate this, I'd love to check it out so please share. && BTW when testing I had the 66 and 67 about 1 foot apart on either side of my body.
I just need a simple reliable handheld navigational GPS to help me in my gold prospecting excursions here in the Sierra Nevada Mountains of Northern California. I don’t need all the fancy extras that this seems to have. I will never remember how to use. I have a Garmin 62s but the compass does not calibrate anymore and the one of the battery prongs had broken off so I’m looking for a new unit. I do like the big screen however.
Is it easy enough to transfer gpx files from your smart phone via bluetooth or wifi to 67. Thanks
Hi, I thought this video was very interesting. You did a good job covering the difference between the Garmin GPSMap 66i and 67i, but would you be able to make a video about how to use the Garmin GPSMap 67(i) (the menus, controls, how to download maps, settings, etc.)? So basically a tutorial?
Thank you!
Yes that's coming soon, this is a first impressions video
I’m looking at buying a handheld GPS unit. Now that the 67i has been released, I found a sale of the 66i for 30% off. Do you think the multi-band and battery from the 67i are a big enough draw to ignore the heavy discounts on the 66i? The USB-C in the 67i is definitely a plus but not a dealbreaker for me.
If you don't need the extra accuracy and can live with the battery (still decent) and want to save money, the 66 is still solid. The 67 is otherwise pretty much the same.
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Have watched 3 videos on this unit so far and no one has addressed the cost of the different tiers of the iNreach subscriptions. So, what is the cost ?
Thanks. Sounds like a pain in the... to setup.
Have you found any difference on transmitting power of the 66i-67i and inreach mini? Does one connect faster than the other? I find the mini taking a long time to get GPS fixes. Does a SOS signal get thru faster than a regular message?
I’ve got a Cabela’s right next to me and they still don’t have one for sale…
Hello, when are you going to do a review on the "etrec se"?
in a couple of weeks should have it up
Question: On long hikes, it's nice to know how far it is to the end of the route. Can the 67i show remaining distance ?
Yes! Time, distance, ETA and more :)
My eTrex 30x does that.
Jim Howardbatey: Yes....most GPS units will tell you "distance to end" and "time to end".
So the 67i is less accurate than the 66sr? Normally it should achieve with Multi-Band 6ft.
in this case it was at the start, which I didn't expect, but it changes and in the tough building section it clearly was off
Interesting but seems clunky to me. I will wait for your next more in depth review thanks for sharing.
Clunky is def a good word to describe the Garmin handhelds
Is it possible to insert directional arrows when following a track?
Very good review. I purchased the 67 version and had a question, I hoped you may know the answer. I use my 67 for hiking so I downloaded the GPX files to the 67. When on the trail the little blue direction arrow is great, but is there any way to draw/show a line that indicates where my breadcrumbs are recorded over the GPX trail? (Basically some visual indication of my actual progress)
I think you can just change the color of your recorded track to something different than the track that you're following - support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=w04AC4BN074X1VLLNsT3m9#:~:text=Changing%20the%20Track%20Color%20of%20the%20Current%20Activity&text=Using%20the%20direction%20pad%2C%20navigate,desired%20color%20and%20press%20Enter.
Great video! I am looking for a small lightweight GPS and Satellite communicator for Dual Sport motorcycle riding. I don't have a big bike so don't want a big touchscreen GPS device on my handlebars, so I'm wondering if you think this would be the best option for my needs or if you have any other recommendations?
You might be better off with a moto specific GPS but I'm sure this would work - but it's really designed for use in the palm of your hand
Battery percentage appears when you're charging in low power mode (at least with firmware 4.80)
Thanks... and yea, they all do when charging, just not when using unfortunately. There's a battery widget I use that does the job though.
Does the off-course alarm on the 67i also work with tracks?
yup
I just realized a important question:
Are there any Garmin handheld GPS device that can be connect to a iPad/ or any android tablet to act as a external GPS for tablet? If so, that would be amazing.
I do know Garmin GLO external GPS can do that but using a handheld GPS would be 10x more useful.
@@Orel-m5gGarmin said, NO! Why would we do that for the consumers? we want to make more money.
You can actually add another device without removing the other one by clicking the icon on the top left
Stuck between grabbing this 67i or the Garmin Mini inReach 2. Can't decide if I want to stick with just my phone for GPS and go Mini 2 or get a unit that does dedicated GPS (67i). Thoughts, ideas?
if you hike in sloppy / wet / cold conditions, go with the 67i, otherwise just use your phone for nav and get a Mini
@Hikingguy thank you, I had the exact same question. Why would weather condition be different?
@@999............. touchscreens don't work well in the rain
I’m looking into this device mainly for the communications portion so I can communicate with my wife via text messaging. Does the text message have to be sent through your phone or does it go through the device? Could you speak more on this please or just shoot a comment on here that would be awesome. Thanks.
You can do it through the device but it's tedious using the keyboard. Set up your common msgs with quick text and you'll be okay though
Can you use AA or 14500 lithium cells in it. For off grid outdoor use this is very important.
not this but in the 65 GPSMAP units you can
Location looks familiar… Filmed at Fashion Island, NB..?
ha yes!
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Good job
Does 67i work with Android? Thank you.
yes
Good info. Thank you. Can’t wait for the full review. Your 66i review was instrumental in my eventual purchase of that device. I’m trying to figure out why you have the “Course Alerts” feature toggle available under your 66i’s “Routing” settings, between “Course Navigation” and “Advanced Setup,” but mine is missing. Thought it might have been a feature added in a later firmware version, but updating did not fix that issue 🤷♂️
Thank you! Just looked on my 66i - same thing, no "off course alert" - shame on Garmin for offering course support on the 66 and not including that. Really weak. Hopefully it will be included in a future firmware update.
Oh, looks like I misunderstood. I thought that *was* the 66i you were showing. My bad
Hi, im planning to get this one, can I use it as well for driving navigation? I want a single GPS for vehicle and hiking use. Thanks
You have to buy a Citynavigator map card but it's not as good as a regular GPS or your phone, but it can be done.
@@Hikingguy Thanks HikingGuy! 👍
Why are those things so complicated?😮
They really aren't once you use them.
Because it’s a Garmin. Lol. Totally non intuitive
You get used to them.
Have you tried to use the 67i with basecamp yet? So i've picked up the 67i up last week, but when i plug it into to my macbook Basecamp says the OEM maps are unreadable. :/
Wait… you can only pair ONE device to Messenger at a time?
Looks that way
I heard on a Garmin video you can now sync with explore app WITHOUT any internet connection. Could you test this for me. With 4g and Wi-fi off on both devices can you plot a route and sync to device and sync gos tracks back from the device using Bluetooth only on both devices. Thanks
You can sync the device with explore using just Bluetooth, but you can't sync the Explore app with the Explore website without a connection - did that make sense? it can be confusing
Thanks. So if I was in a tent off grid. I could plot a route on the app with a previously downloaded map. Sync it to 67 and fenix. After walk sync the data back to the explore app. Can you also sync to connect app? I know that did not work without an internet connection in the early days which was frustrating
@@MiniEggs1999 Not sure about Connect but will try - but yea, if you created a course with downloaded maps on your Explore app, you could sync to the 67 and do the course
why you test with light of sight ?
66sr vs 67: battery life :) + is it faster?
I think if you don't need inReach, the 66sr is still very solid and basically the same. The battery is much better of the bat on the 67 though.
So you can't pair 2 of them?!
Thank you for sharing. Does the device have an Arabic language?
Wait, no battery indicator??
What about loading City Navigator® North America NT via SD card on 67i for Bike/ATV use? Or would the Montana have different type of maps for that sort of thing??
You should be able to load Citinavigator on this no prob - same deal as the other GPSMAP units - Montana has specific ATV routing though
hi ! great video !
could you help out with a product choice? i'm a 3 million plus km walker in almost 2 years
the most of it is a solo hiker situation, i want to have an extra safety device for my own piece of mind
would you recommend the not the Inreach models of Montana 700 vs the new GPS map 67?
pricewise it's a couple of bucks more
Def the 67 - the Montana is hard to use in the rain and pretty heavy. I think the 67 works much better
@@Hikingguy thanks !
What are your thoughts on the Montana series?
Looking at your Montana video now.
We hike and eMTB out in the sticks as we travel in our camper van. We have iPhone apps that work almost all the time. Our interest is primarily in the intereach SOS features in a stand alone unit, plus access to the recovery insurance .
Your thoughts?
Grab a Mini 2 and use with your phone apps
So it's not possible to have both the 67i and mini2 paired to your account at the same time? That's very disappointing as I was wanting to have both. I currently use my mini2 while hiking but wanted to have the option to switch to the 67i for multi day treks or offroad/hunting.
I think you need a professional account to have multiple devices, and you pay a plan for each. Otherwise it's one at a time. It's a pain and I wish I had the flexibility that you described too.
Is that thing water and temperature proof?
yes
difficult: a map and compass ✅
Hi HikingGuy. I'm experiencing some weird behavior in Expedition Mode. With Expedition mode on 'Auto', the screen turns off after 1 minute, instead of the propagated 2 minutes (?). Then, to wake the device back up, I press the Power button... but the backlight remains OFF. I need to push the Power button multiple times to adjust brightness. With Expedition mode on "Prompted", it still goes into expedition mode after 1 minute of inactivity... where it should prompt? But in this mode, the screen backlight does turn on after hitting the power button. This looks very much like Garmin again! ha... :)
And one more thing I noticed: the green light on top of the device starts flashing after screen off, even if Expedtion Mode setting is on "never". From the manual: "Flashing green: The device is in expedition mode.". Huh? So am I in expediton mode, or not?
I haven't tested Expedition mode yet - you might want to send this to Garmin - product.support@garmin.com - sounds like a bug or a series of them
Do I need to format my 32Gb SD card prior to inserting it into my new 67i to get the unit to recognize it? (I inserted it and connected the 67i to my PC but it doesn't appear to see the card?)
Yea I'd try to format it exFAT
I have a Explorer+ and my biggest issue is sending tracking points when in forest coverage when motorbike riding. From a inreach point of view, will the 66 or 67 be any better?
67 should be better, it transmits at a higher power, but it's always variable - I've done tests in heavy canopy and in the Grand Canyon and it goes through in a minute. I was doing testing under clear blue skies yesterday, and it was 12 minutes.
@Hikingguy thanks for the reply. So since you said in the video that the 66i and 67i inreach were identical, the 66i would be better than the Explorer+?
@@hamish3766 Well, don't really think I said the 66 and 67 are identical. I would go with the 67 since the extra battery life could make a difference in a SOS. Otherwise prob stick with the Explorer+
@@Hikingguy 8:40 'I'm 99% sure the 66i and 67i are identical' , with respect to inreach which is what my question was about.
@@hamish3766 sorry didn't realize that - 67 has higher transmit power and slightly quicker position fix, doesn't always equate to a more reliable inReach send though - overall all inReach and ZOLEO use Iridium Short Burst Data, so the tech is largely the same as it was back to the original Delorme units
How would it work offshore in the gulf
Yup
Hey is it hard or even possible to lead alltrails maps on to the 67!
tracks not maps
I’m looking to purchase a unit that does it all trails and turn by turn street navigation, considering this unit or the Montana, the Montana seems be a full featured unit but a beast, any recommendations, thoughts would be appreciated
The Montana is heavier but has the street nav built in - if you are mainly driving, it's a better bet, but if you're mainly walking / outdoors, I'd go with the 67
@@Hikingguy do you feel the 67 will perform as well as the Montana for street navigation? I like the small form factor for outdoor use
@@Stevenfclark good question - I will give it a try when I test - off the top of my head Montana will prob be better for street since it has Citynavigator maps
@@Hikingguy I believe this is downloadable to the 67 correct
@@Stevenfclark yes you can buy a City Navigator microSD card I think
There is two big problems with the Garmin GPS's. I have been using them for many decades so I know. First, the screen was way too small until just recently, .. took way too long to fix... because the ongoing issue is this: There has been few changes in the last 20+ years!!!!! They still are the same color!!! and they still have the same firmware GUI ! Graphical user interface looks way too much the same as when color was first introduced and before that even. There should be a totally new layout, and have a new base color, like .... white! that would be cool! and of course red and blue. So there it is from someone who has been involved with gps since it was invented.
Please tell Garmin to please make some "visual" upgrades!!