My fire department had this truck in it's original "tanker " form years ago. The forestry service gave it to us. It was a great running a driving tanker that served us well for many years. I was blown away when I seen the the pics of it while it was still in the tanker mode. Thank you for sharing and bring back fond memories.
Awesome! I didnt think I would find someone who knew about this old girl! I do have a few questions about the truck. What fire department were you with? It had texas a&m markings on it but I do not know the history of the truck past that. Any info you may remember is greatly appreciated! Thanks for leaving a comment and watching my video!
I used to belong to a very small Volunteer Fire Dept in Upstate NY, and at that time, both of their Primary Pumpers were Dodges. The 1st out Pumper was a 1961 Dodge D700, with a 361 Engine, 5 Speed New Process Transmission, and Eaton 2 Speed Rear Axle, and the switch for the 2 Speed was actually a Toggle Switch that was built into the left side of the shift knob, and you went from low to hi or hi to low with your right thumb. It had a 750 gpm 3 Stage Pump, which was Pressure, Volume, and High Pressure. I could easily get close to 1150 gpm out of that Pump. Their Back Up/2nd out Pumper was a 1974 Dodge C900 with a 555 Cummins Diesel Engine, 5 Speed New Process Transmission, and 2 Speed Rear Axle. It had a 1,000 gpm 3 Stage Pump, but unlike the other Truck, the Max gpm of the Pump was only 1,000 GPM.
That is awesome! You should check out the video on my D500 as that was a tanker too! ua-cam.com/video/bFyJv6P21vI/v-deo.htmlsi=3ECv0Szo6xkmNC_S It would have been cool to restore the trucks as tankers but I have no use for tanker trucks. These trucks were workhorses in their prime no doubt. Those are massive pumps on a truck too! Do you know if the two speed rear axle shifter is original? Thanks for watching!
That is my favorite Dodge truck design. The hinged fenders were pretty genius. A friend of mine has one fully restored and several others he is working on. Thanks for showing yours off. It's pretty sweet.
Hauled gravel in the summer and pulp wood in the winter with an 800 (a '66 I think) in the late 60's. Company I worked for had a lot of them, originally with 413's and 5 and 4's. 413's wouldn't stand up so the company put in V6 GM's, problem solved. They were a bit underpowered but with rear end gearing that topped them out around 60 MPH the 5 and 4"s gave them all the power they needed and we were off the highway more than on so they did very well. The engines probably paid for themselves in no time. They stood up well and gave great fuel mileage.
The 413 industrial motors werent the best for offroad use so I have heard. Especially pulling hills. Not to mention the terrible fuel mileage from them. A lot of the industrial gm motors were pretty dang good. It was definitely an exploratory period in the history of trucking and big gas motors. Especially with diesel not being a full mainstay yet. Gas was still king. 60mph is really good for that time though, hopefully the truck is still hanging around somewhere! Thanks for sharing and watching my video!
Actually that company was quite a large one with somewhere in the neighbourhood of 200 trucks on the road I don't know how many had the GM conversion but there were quite a few. They tried to get Chrysler to sell them 800's before they went to GM's but they were told, so the story goes, that they would have to get 900 's at a considerably greater expense. Chrysler was not happy so the next series of trucks they bought were R=Model Macks.@@OLDSKUULGARAGE
I was a US Air Force heavy equipment mechanic back in the early 80's. We had a lot of these old Dodge chassis trucks, not only as tankers, but I worked on them as aircraft deicing trucks. The deicer system was a lot of trouble, but the basic truck was always pretty good. The Air Force loved the Industrial 413. In these trucks, as pony engines on street sweepers and my favorite use was 413 powered runway sweepers. Due to the design of the sweeper, these didn't have a real exhaust system, but just a short, open pipe after the manifolds. Boy the racket those things made!
That is cool! I can only imagine that noise! They are loud trucks as is. I almost wonder if you may or may not have worked on this truck. This one used to be red and was tanker 5 I believe. Originally an air force truck. Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE If you find anything like a 'data plate' in there, or any of the paperwork that has the USAF Reg. No. (registration number), let me know. That would go a way in tracing its history. The Reg No. would look like 70B1946 or something like that. The first two digits signify the model year, the letter, which may be a B, K or L, or even A, is just a way the AF classified vehicles, and the last four digits are randomly assigned numbers, specific to each vehicle or piece of equipment. You may run across a metal data plate under the dash or hood.
@@grassblade63 a few questions before I look. Would the data plate be stuck on (adhesive) or riveted on? I know there is a data plate that is thin metal for US property notice. There is also a us air force bar code sticker, would that lead to anything?
I had a friend that had a Dodge tractor with a Detroit 6-71. He used it to move his dirt equipment. I wish I had it today I’m sure it was low mileage when he retired and sold it
That sucks! That is how it rolls some times though. They pop up from time to time so you never know! They may not be the fastest but they seem to be more than proven! Especially with a 6-71. Thanks for watching!
Lol. There are times being 6’3” pays off. Makes it a lot easier getting in all the trucks haha. The big forehead is the only think I gotta worry about. Make sure I aint denting any door panels or frame rails! 😂. Thanks for watching!
That’s how trucks should still be made. Everything is made towards making it easier to maintaining it. As now it’s all the opposite. Always liked those trucks. Very nice example. 👍👍
@OLDSKUULGARAGE I can tell you that the 855 had to be tilted over to the passenger side like a Ford. That means many external parts were unique to the Dodge. It was wedged in there as tight as any modern pickup with a diesel. The dog house was big and made it even more cramped in a small cab. The glass area is small, it felt like sitting in a chopped 32 Ford coupe.
@@davidkeeton6716 that is a little of what I have heard lol. I think unique would be a good word to describe it haha. Im sure it was a freight train though! These trucks are not very heavy especially without a sleeper. Do you know if the 855 still had to be tilted if the truck was a high cab or was that a high cab only motor?
@OLDSKUULGARAGE We had several of these come in the Volvo dealership where I worked. The cab looked just like this truck but the floor and motor box/dog house was different depending on the engine.
Great video! I loved it all. NEAT old history truck. I in the early 80;s a friend and i went to a wrecking yard and we spotted a 70- Dodge it was a Concrete truck and it did have the 413, 5sod w/the 2spd rearend, I really liked how the fenders opened from the side, Another great idea Dodge came up with. Good looking you got. Those trucks will last 5 life times. And yes get rid of the split rims and go with the 11r 22's is a great idea
They were definitely modular trucks with lots of options! Many engine and driveline packages. I wish they would have been more of a hit so more could be around today!
The twin stick trucks are awesome but rare! I would love to do a conversion and add a 3 or 4 speed brownie on the back of the 5spd someday! I hope this video revived some memories! Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Brings back memories alright some not so fond. The gear shift knobs were the factory silver glitter ones kinda cool for the day. It was the mid seventies, I was in my early twenties working for a local dairy in NM on a milk dock loading semi's. Occasionally they had me move trailers . Not sure what I was doing I sweat blood an tears driving on conjested narrow oneway city streets lined with parked cars in both directions. That's how I learned to drive and eventuality get my CDL. Good luck with your project !
Like your truck. I had a 1959 W300 Dodge Power Wagon with a flathead 6. The dash was the same as yours. The cab, windows was like yours too. Had the single speedo in the center, like yours was. It had a 10,000 # winch on the front bumper. A propane co had it b4 me. They had a 6" steel beam mounted on top of four steel posts. This made it possible to deliver 500 gallon propane tanks. I bought the truck and turned it it to a portable welding rig. Put a SA200 Lincoln Welder right behind the cab. Also added a cutting torch rack. I made out well with it. Sold it. Miss it too. All the best, Pete
That trucks sounds like a beast!!! I bet she was reliable too. Thanks for sharing, hopefully this video let you reminisce a little bit. Thanks for watching!
Yes, reminisce I did ! Thanks for the drive ! Yeah, a beast she was. It was a true 4WD...wish I had never sold her 😞...all the best, Pete @@OLDSKUULGARAGE
I love those old Dodge Trucks been a big fan of them since I was a kid my grandfather had two that were old grain haulers and always loved how the fenders swung open the ones he had were the early 60's models with the four eyes instead of the two bug eyes
I think the earlier headlights look better on the trucks. I feel it fits the design of the truck better. Hopefully my video brought back some good memories from your childhood! Thanks for watching!
Yeah they were very unique & tuff in their own way the near west suburban village of Maywood Illinois used all Dodge vehicles for about 3 or 4 decades the village dump trucks & snow plows & Squad Cars when Dodge got out of the heavy truck market in 76 or 77 I guess they just went with a mix of Fords & GMs & I - Hs and for the village Agecy service cars & Police Cars they started useing Buick LeSabres in 1977 there was A large & very famous Buick dealer in the village at First avenue & Madison st Walter Peckat Buick Company Maywood Illinois
It is interesting you mention that. From what I have heard the dodges were very common in specific areas. And almost none in others. They definitely got many years of service probably more than they were ever intended for. It is sad a lot of them are gone. The buick dealer definitely landed a deal with the city for those city vehicles. Which makes sense but im sure it was sad seeing the big motor dodges go. Thanks for sharing and watching my video!
It was very ingenious of Chrysler to use existing cab models for the C Series and Bighorn. They are a great looking cab in my opinion also. These gas trucks are a good look into the past and how things have really changed. Thanks for watching!
When I started driving, my Father would reach over and slap my leg and tell me, "It's a clutch peddle, not a foot rest so unless you want to replace the clutch in this, I suggest you take your foot off it between shifts and when driving down the road." I bring this up because I couldn't help but notice you riding around with your foot on the peddle. If properly adjusted, the throw out bearing should only be spinning when you step on the clutch, but with your foot riding on the peddle, yours is spinning all the time. It won't last long like that.
I was not pressing the pedal but resting my foot. The return springs on these old dodges were pretty big for the clutches. I have never heard this before but I will definitely keep this in mind for the future! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I absolutely love watching your videos because how in depth you are explaining what your talking about is this truck a 5speed and the red button puts it in high range
Thank you, I do my best. I tried to get footage of the shifting of the two speed axle but it isn’t very obvious on the video. Maybe I will do a more in depth video on it solely at some point. Thank you for commenting and watching my videos!
I remember that truck back then he had a thrill show and we were sponsored by Dodge we got 23 new dodges 2 Dodge trucks and we traveled around to fair's around the country putting on automobile stunt shows There are utube videos of some of the thrill shows of the past
Man is that cool! Being sponsored by Dodge back in the day was pretty special! I will need to look up some of these videos so I can see some old school stuff. Thanks for commenting and watching my video!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE thanks my dad also had Cooper tires and Texaco fuels and I think interstate or Delco batteries and my dad got the Dodge contract because my grandmother played bridge with the Dodges
Im still in the process of filming the video for the lower grill being done. It is taking longer than expected because of all the polishing. I am hoping to have it up this week. If not I will end up posting an update this week. Thanks for this comment, it means a lot to me!
You're in Jax 😀 I thought I recognized the sandwich house and the i-95 Emerson ave when I used to truck regularly down there ✌️🤠 The 413 runs really smooth.
Shhhh we cant let people know im in the armpit of America where it is 100° everyday lol. It is a great little route to take the trucks out. Not crazy amounts of traffic to deal with as these are not fast trucks. Especially with how people are on their phones all day! Ive put a lot of work in that dang motor. It does run very smooth for a v8 though. I didnt talk on the drive because of how loud it is in the cab, but that was not transferred to the video. Thanks for watching!
Australia here, That swing out fender is so clever, I've never seen that before. In Australia, we never got those American trucks as we built our own to a totally different design. Our heaviest were the Dodge 700, AT4 '63 to '72 and the D5N , 700 '73 to '79. With a Perkins 6 diesel, 361 V8 petrol or a Cummins 180 V8 diesel. Some had GM's fitted too.Single or bogie drive.
I have heard yall had some export restrictions on a lot of yalls trucks. The manuals mention some export stuff but very little. The swing out fender really is a great idea! Most of the motors are super easy to access and makes working on the bigger truck a lot easier than the earlier coe’s or lcf’s. How common was the perkins down there? It was fairly rare here. Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Yeah,we had some weird import taxes and a bounty 'tax' on imported cars, trucks and tractors to protect local industry, at the time. You could personally import an American truck, but you really paid a lot of tax.As for the 6-354 Perkins ,they are in everything over here, thousands of them,in trucks,tractors,harvesters. Mechanics call them 'Plastic Perkins'.
@@johnkauppi7078 the perkins trucks are something like double digit production numbers for each year for all the dodge trucks. Especially earlier on. Which makes them pretty rare here in the states. That is funny yall got more! I have heard they are generally pretty reliable with only a few issues to them. Cool stuff!
It would have been more common in its day for regional trucks. Long haul otr would have used diesels. I made it a tractor to pull my stepdeck and carry the imperial/other equipment. For 3-5mpg unloaded its a hefty cost every drive lol. Thanks for watching!
I have a 1971 C700 that was purchased new by a small town in Pennsylvania. I originally had a factory dump bed and snow plow. When I bought it there was a flatbed on it. It has a 413 industrial with a 5 speed and 2 speed axle. Hoping to get it on the road within the next year. It is a father/sons project that has been waiting for about 15 years to get a refirb. started.
That is awesome!!! They are great trucks and fairly simple to work on! Is it juice or air brakes? Aint nothing to it but to get going on it with little stuff! Before you know it you will be rolling down the strip! Thanks for watching!
@@markmasters2701 if you want a modern chassis check Kerns Truck parts in Atlanta, and if you want an older chassis check c&h truck parts. I would also join the swing out fender truck group if you havent on facebook. Lots of adds popping up there with these trucks. Hope that helps a little bit!
Very nice. I replaced the governed carburetor on mine with a ford carburetor from a 69 F series truck. Also replaced the distributor with a one wire ready to run kind. Also 413/361 family. I can hit speeds of 70-73! Top recommended rpm around 3800.
I have seen your truck and it looks great! I actually recognized the profile pic too! I want to stay governed for mine and actually have two governed four barrels ready to swap as is but I like the two barrel. Mine isnt as fast as yours lol. The truck was offroad optioned so gearing is super low and max speed with two speed axle engaged is 55mph maybe 60 really cooking along. I like to keep it around 3k-3500 though if doing highway stuff. Thanks for commenting and watching my video!!!
You might be able to adapt a 67-72 GM light truck door latch and striker to your doors, they are a fairly similar shape and size to the old Fargo-era dodge cabs and function in a similar way.
They do look like they may fit but I will be repairing the old lock. I have figured out how to fix it I just didnt do it correctly the last time lol. If more stuff was missing I would definitely convert but there is too much that would have to get modified for me to do it at this time. It does look like even the door handle functions in a similar manner though. It is not a bad Idea though and I will mention this in the video I do on the door latch! Thanks for watching and commenting!
When driving any vehicle with a standard trans you never put it in neutral and let it coast. If anything were to happen; brake or clutch failure; you may not get it back in gear: Then you have a run away. It is. Not a good practice
That was explained to me by another commenter. I was bobtailing but I also understand the bad habit building of when I am hauling how it could be bad. Only thing I am not fully understanding is not getting back in gear. I have never had an issue getting the truck back in gear. Can you explain this to me more so that I understand better? Edit: What I am asking is, what prevents me from putting the truck back in gear? I understand coming to a stop with engine braking. I want to make a video explaining to newer drivers as well so that others do not make the same mistakes.
Nice to see. However, that air cleaner set up you currently have will draw very warm air which is not the most efficient for combustion and fuel milage. Cool air drawn from the outside his denser and therefor much more efficient for combustion and mileage as well to a certain extent.
Yes you are correct. Originally the truck had an oil bath air cleaner in that spot. I decided to use the oiled filter element type because it is easy to maintain and I am not in a dusty environment. I do not want to convert to exterior air cleaner as that would involve cutting a hole in the hood. I'm not worried about mileage that much though. The truck gets an average of 3mpg and even worse loaded. They were not known for their efficiency lol! Thanks for Watching!
I see the D, B, and H, knobs on the dash, defrost, blower, and heat. But what the the T and V knobs control? I guess V is for Vent... I love them big old trucks!
The V is for vent. There is a cowl vent that pops up where the cowl should be. It looks like the early ford f100 pop up vents. T is for throttle. The throttle gets pulled out when idling for pto use. You can raise it to a specific rpm to get the correct speed and power for the pto. The governor system that works between the carb and distributor regulates the throttle to keep the engine from stalling under load. It basically self regulates once throttle is set. Thanks for watching! I should have mentioned all the vents in the truck!
It grinds because you're not double clutching. Notice you're not hitting the split so it's like you're shifting wide and jumping a gear each time. It wasn't too long after that where they got rid of the two speed rear end and came out with the Eaton Ten Speed transmission. I still like those better than the 9/13/18 speeds. Simpler in the city.
It is a synchronized box from 2nd to 5th. You do not need to double clutch when shifting from 2nd through fifth unless pulling a load. It was grinding because I am still learning the truck/rookie driver. The gates are super loose on these transmissions but not the worst. I am starting to get the feel of it but still make mistakes. I would love to drive the truck more but it is very expensive to run with todays gas prices and the mileage it gets in the city. The ten speeds were out at the time but you have to remember most trucks were not national otr. They were regional or local which is where the 5spd and 2spd rear axle come in. Cool little fact is you could order a c series with the 413 gas motor and an eaton 10speed. That is a very rare gear set to find today. Thanks for commenting and watching my video!
It is a 1971 Dodge L1000 with a Big Cam iii Cummins. I have a series on that truck on my channel but it is nowhere near drivable yet. Someday though! Thanks for watching!
@@ernestpassaro9663 as long as it got the job done with little breakdowns that is all that matters! Single axle trucks are definitely a lot rarer these days!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE those single axle b model macks with the huge rears could pull really heavy loads wouldn’t trust any other single axle to move those loads
began working in a small family owned garage in 75? greener the &&^%%^ BUT! loved MOPARs. customers all cherished there rigs! i did my best to keep them working. scrapper owned his Dodge. like clock work; alway's brought in for service. battery box in the fender was a dumb area! weight. rust. truck wasn't old. alway's kept a tooth pick above the dash. kinda gross....good luck!
The battery on the fender really is dumb lol. Im sure you have some great and maybe not so great memories in these trucks lol. And mopars are great! Totally not biased! Thanks for watching!
between my late bro and i; we owned from 65 barracuda to 71 Challenger. had a 69 Daytona. had a myraid of muscle cars....i never owned a 70 GTX with air grabber..the model i alway's wanted.! ....too much money now!...ride a 1974 Harley FXE Superglide now.
Is the two speed button working,, ? , if it is you have 2 higher end gears left using the fifth over gear pattern shift, possibly,? Best learned on country back road when splitting gears though. Thank you for the update,, very cool rig,,!
Yes, the two speed rear is working. I used it a couple times in the video but it is hard to see because of the camera not picking it up. A few issues though that will be addressed in a video later. One is I need bigger tires so the ratio of the overall final drive will match the transmission behind the speedometer. The transmission has a “safety” switch that requires the truck to be going 40mph in order for the two speed rear axle to engage. I may bypass it but I am not sure yet. It would be cool to just add another stick with a brownie and leave the safety switch active! Thanks for watching!
I never heard of that safety switch. It was always splitting the first three gears, then 4 low, 5 low, 4 high then 5 high. Also, any air brake trucks I drove the two speed rear was air activated, not electric. Live and learn. @@OLDSKUULGARAGE
@@oldrustycars i think it may have been a dodge and international thing. Dont ask me why cause I think it is a weird design. The 34k eatons arent the strongest out there but they definitely would be fine splitting with a load. The power comes from the switch up to to the transmission (speedo unit) which is hooked up behind the speedometer. When you hit 40mph it allows current to go to the solenoids which allow air to the shift unit. I wasnt able to get into 2nd speed for a while and it turns out the wire from the transmission (not the gearbox but the gear unit for the speedometer) was unplugged from the bulkhead. Super weird stuff. But however the truck was optioned for wheels you simply changed the transmission instead of a unit in the gearbox or the entire speedometer.
@@oldrustycars also I should mention if the truck had juice brakes there was an electric motor that shifted the axle. Not air. Thats a lot rarer but just a really weird thing that apparently broke a lot. Early eaton and rockwell both had some weird designs for the medium duty and medium-heavy duty trucks.
@@MaxtronusPrime_ i will be leaving the gas engine in the truck. Air brakes and gas engines are an awesome pair! There is a lot of history associated with gas engines in big trucks as well. It also drives very different than a diesel truck. Thanks for watching!
Usually they are pretty rotted out when they have been sitting for a while. Hopefully someone has gotten some parts off of it before too late! Thanks for watching!
Thanks, I believe it could be a bit of both me and the truck. I havent tried to see fully if it is the truck though. It is a fully synchro transmission so I dont need to double clutch when unloaded but it does seem the synchro in fifth gear may be going out. To test double clutch fifth would be appropriate. The truck sat for 20 years so it is possible that fifth’s synchro is broken down/rotted from the oil. The truck was also in a wreck which means it could have been in a wreck in fifth gear. Ill probably be doing a video on it at some point. Third gear in my d500 has a similar issue that was caused by a wreck. Thanks for watching!
It tops at 45-50mph without the two speed and you can get another 5mph witht the two speed. I dont remember the rears ratios, its been a while. I want to say something along the lines of 7.70 lowest. 6.70 with the two speed. Thanks for watching!
Yeah, the gear box is in great shape. Definitely a sloppier transmission by todays standards. But all the synchros seem to be working great. Definitely could be a lot worse! Thanks for watching!
I am no professional and I am learning still but I will be getting some videos of the truck here soon. I need new tires for the rear or at least some that arent flat spotted lol. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! I was just out bobtailing in the truck! I didnt realize people would be more interested in seeing proper driving. I was mainly trying to record the sights and sounds! Thank you for watching!
The truck does have live tandems. If I remember off of the top of my head it has 6.70 low ratio. The transmission is a spicer 5653 and is only slightly different from the 5652. Mainly in gearing. It is synchro from 2nd-5th but I dont know the condition of the synchros. Thanks for watching!
Actually almost everything is different component wise. I thought it would be also but it turned out to not be. The latch assemblies are all specific and the cabs are based off of the mid 50s and 57-59 trucks. Door handles and stuff were all the same though as you stated. There are some minor changes over time but mainly resemble those earlier trucks. Fun fact the cabs were made by chrysler into the 80s for another small truck manufacturer. Thank you for watching!
I am 6’3”. It is fair. The closer vehicle would be my D500. That would have the same cab. They are fairly good for space but the C series has a smaller cab. I think the D series steering column is a bit lower though. Thanks for watching!
Yessir! They had the mufflers up front too! There is one on VintageMilitaryTrucks.com . They are definitely uniquely designed Tankers! Thanks for sharing!
I'm retired I have 40 ac and I play around the ranch. One job I did was 35 ton of stone thank the lord it was only a mile an a half. If you can put it in a dump I hauled it
Hey Man, great video! That's a cool truck. I noticed you have an air valve on the dash....normally I'd think that's the deep reduction valve Also, you should look into "double clutching"....you might have heard of it. Anyways, we have alot in common, would be nice chatting with you sometime!
Thanks! The valve on the dash is the parking brake disengagement button. The two speed axle engagement is kind weird where is electronic over air. Simply put you can only engage the two speed axle over a certain speed. Kinda odd lol. Yeah I generally dont double clutch when bob tailing but definitely under load. I have gotten some other comments because of that lol. We definitely do some similar stuff that is for sure. Im definitely gonna watch some more of your videos when I get home tonight!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE That's a nice parking brake valve. I've only seen the push/pull type....thje type you have is definetely better....can easily be replaced by a 3-way valve if you need to....mine is a combination type on my triaxle....stupid plastic...has a crack in it would like to replace it. I have a 2 speed differential on my international as well! Used to be electric. I converted it to air!!....now there's a hydraulic 3-way valve on my shift stick. I thought someone would have mentioned the double clutch to you....I do it even when empty and even on my car...i think it works alot better
@@OldCrowsClassicCars ohhh im sorry I thought you were talking about the black push pull valve lolol which is plastic haha. The switch valve is a valve that limits brake pressure by 50% to the front wheels for wet weather. Im gonna do a video on startup procedures and the stuff on the dash at some point. I think im gonna leave mine electric for now. Definitely has crossed my mind before though. I would like to convert the truck to a 5x4 setup with an auxiliary at some point which almost wouldn’t need the two speed rear axle but not sure yet. There is a lot to that conversion. And yeah i got a lot of comments for the coasting in neutral. I didnt realize people would want to see lots of downshifting and proper double clutching. It was failure on my part forgetting there are a lot of trucker guys that are interested in the driving and the sounds/ clanks of the truck. Live and learn I guess. I can send you a close up of the dash if you would like me too.
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Oh, I see the "brake limiter" I have one also. It's quite abit of working making a air unit for the differential. I learned about the "not coasting in neutral" late as well. Have you ever done a transmission swap? I'm currently doing one on my international...but couldn't get the transmission all the way in. Whereabouts in the states do you live? Perhaps I could help you in your projects someday
@OldCrowsClassicCars i have never done a transmission swap although i would recommend spending good money on a transmission jack and staying on concrete where you can roll the jack. Also make sure you are lifting square. If you cant get the transmission in all the way make sure you have the clutch square to the input shaft with a proper alignment tool. Personally I think coasting is fine until you are loaded or pulling anything. The truck only weighs 11,500lbs. There are heavy 1 ton trucks on the road. Obviously as the weights of the vehicles go up you will need to be more concerned with leaving it in gear and engine braking. Where it can be an issue is emergency braking and not being able to get the truck back into gear on a steep grade. I am down in Florida.
The Dodge trucks were the American Brand. Fargo is the Canadian brand. They are both c series dodges. In ‘60 when the c series was released Desoto had their own line. But only for that year I believe as desoto was disbanded in ‘61. Fargo’s are a lot rarer for the fact there were fewer trucks sold in Canada. Thanks for Watching!
Technically speaking either description fits. A motor is something that imparts motion while an engine converts energy into motion. All engines are motors but not all motors are engines. Thank you for watching!
No lol. The microphone didnt pick any of the noise level up. I didnt talk the whole drive because I felt the camera wouldnt be able to hear me lol. Im getting a mic here soon to hopefully help with sound quality of my videos. It is a pretty noisy truck inside. Not clanking wise but the motor is loud. Thanks for watching!
A bighorn would be awesome! But I believe almost all of them have been discovered. At least the ones that are left. They go for a lot of money in a broken down state too. Maybe someday, but right now im going to keep dreaming about owning one in the c series truck lol! Thanks for watching and commenting on my videos!
Yes you are correct. I am bob tailing so I am not going to be down shifting. There is no need. All these old transmissions have been abused by people that really really dont know from the military in the early 70s. Spicer 5 speeds are not known for there smooth shifting especially when cold and brand new. To shift into first without grinding the gears you have to raise the throttle and let it rest. Same with reverse. Even from a dead stop. That slop though lead to lots of reliability from these transmissions in school buses and regional trucks. Also I believe i was missing in 5th but not sure. 2nd-5th are synchronized but I still have trouble on 5th. I am going to keep saying im missing the gear until i get eyes on that synchronizer which are known for degrading in hypoid specific oils after sitting for extended periods. I will be seeking further training for managing full loads at some point even though I never plan to haul anything real in this truck. Or do any real amounts of hauling. Pulling my 30ft stepdeck trailer with a load will be the only load it may ever see. I cant legally pull that though until I get licensed and properly trained. Also why is it inappropriate to use neutral when slowing down? I have such big brakes on this truck and no load. Thank you for watching though. Please feel free to drop any advice.
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE I know it would be a bitchy box to shift down and petrol gas v8 is harder to get revs to match your speed to grab gears , easy way to figure this is to consintrate on how high your engine is revving and what speed you are doing when you up shift then pull it into neutral give excelerater and kick and go back down if engine speed matches road speed gear will glide in nicely , just keep practising up shift then back down until you got it mate , practice makes perfect , and no I don't expect you to be a pro immediately but these old trucks teach drivers much better than new trucks will teach, after a while you will love kicking that v8 in the guts coming down thru the gears like a race truck
@@holdenbrougham1056 i appreciate the advice. I have only rev matched a little here and there. Now that i have the truck in a better place I can practice more consistently now. If I get good enough with that transmission just about any other transmission will be cake. I appreciate the criticism and responding!
I am not the best driver yes, but everytime I coasted in neutral I was below 25mph. I know it is a bad habit for hauling but I was bob tailing in the video. The truck weighs 11,500 lbs as is in the video. Thanks for Watching!
@@jimmychanbers2424 personally I think Ford won that contest! Lol totally not biased! You have to remember though that specifically Dodge was going after form over function and less about style until the mid seventies where the big truck side was shut down. Unique is definitely a word to describe them lol. Thanks for watching!
That is a very cool truck. It would be neat to put a Cummins 6bt or 8.3 in there, but if you aim to keep it original, the 413 industrial is a damn good motor (just need to slap a 4 Barrel and headers so it can BREATHE) thanks for sharing
I do plan to leave it original but you never know what will break. I have a holley 4bbl governed that matches what would have been on the truck if it was a four barrel. Dont know if or when I will do it. It definitely is cool though! Thanks for watching!
My fire department had this truck in it's original "tanker " form years ago. The forestry service gave it to us. It was a great running a driving tanker that served us well for many years. I was blown away when I seen the the pics of it while it was still in the tanker mode. Thank you for sharing and bring back fond memories.
Awesome! I didnt think I would find someone who knew about this old girl! I do have a few questions about the truck. What fire department were you with? It had texas a&m markings on it but I do not know the history of the truck past that. Any info you may remember is greatly appreciated!
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I used to belong to a very small Volunteer Fire Dept in Upstate NY, and at that time, both of their Primary Pumpers were Dodges. The 1st out Pumper was a 1961 Dodge D700, with a 361 Engine, 5 Speed New Process Transmission, and Eaton 2 Speed Rear Axle, and the switch for the 2 Speed was actually a Toggle Switch that was built into the left side of the shift knob, and you went from low to hi or hi to low with your right thumb. It had a 750 gpm 3 Stage Pump, which was Pressure, Volume, and High Pressure. I could easily get close to 1150 gpm out of that Pump. Their Back Up/2nd out Pumper was a 1974 Dodge C900 with a 555 Cummins Diesel Engine, 5 Speed New Process Transmission, and 2 Speed Rear Axle. It had a 1,000 gpm 3 Stage Pump, but unlike the other Truck, the Max gpm of the Pump was only 1,000 GPM.
That is awesome! You should check out the video on my D500 as that was a tanker too! ua-cam.com/video/bFyJv6P21vI/v-deo.htmlsi=3ECv0Szo6xkmNC_S
It would have been cool to restore the trucks as tankers but I have no use for tanker trucks. These trucks were workhorses in their prime no doubt. Those are massive pumps on a truck too!
Do you know if the two speed rear axle shifter is original?
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I've got a 1974 ct800 cummin 555 twin stick 5x4 20000 front axle. Keep the videos coming
Thanks! Thats a beast of a truck! Is it a high cab with cummins 555’s? Thanks for watching!
That is my favorite Dodge truck design. The hinged fenders were pretty genius. A friend of mine has one fully restored and several others he is working on. Thanks for showing yours off. It's pretty sweet.
Thank you! Still a ways to go before fully restored but it will get there. Thanks for watching!
Hauled gravel in the summer and pulp wood in the winter with an 800 (a '66 I think) in the late 60's. Company I worked for had a lot of them, originally with 413's and 5 and 4's. 413's wouldn't stand up so the company put in V6 GM's, problem solved. They were a bit underpowered but with rear end gearing that topped them out around 60 MPH the 5 and 4"s gave them all the power they needed and we were off the highway more than on so they did very well. The engines probably paid for themselves in no time. They stood up well and gave great fuel mileage.
The 413 industrial motors werent the best for offroad use so I have heard. Especially pulling hills. Not to mention the terrible fuel mileage from them. A lot of the industrial gm motors were pretty dang good. It was definitely an exploratory period in the history of trucking and big gas motors. Especially with diesel not being a full mainstay yet. Gas was still king. 60mph is really good for that time though, hopefully the truck is still hanging around somewhere!
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Actually that company was quite a large one with somewhere in the neighbourhood of 200 trucks on the road I don't know how many had the GM conversion but there were quite a few. They tried to get Chrysler to sell them 800's before they went to GM's but they were told, so the story goes, that they would have to get 900
's at a considerably greater expense. Chrysler was not happy so the next series of trucks they bought were R=Model Macks.@@OLDSKUULGARAGE
I was a US Air Force heavy equipment mechanic back in the early 80's. We had a lot of these old Dodge chassis trucks, not only as tankers, but I worked on them as aircraft deicing trucks. The deicer system was a lot of trouble, but the basic truck was always pretty good. The Air Force loved the Industrial 413. In these trucks, as pony engines on street sweepers and my favorite use was 413 powered runway sweepers. Due to the design of the sweeper, these didn't have a real exhaust system, but just a short, open pipe after the manifolds. Boy the racket those things made!
That is cool! I can only imagine that noise! They are loud trucks as is. I almost wonder if you may or may not have worked on this truck. This one used to be red and was tanker 5 I believe. Originally an air force truck. Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Heck, I may have worked on that one, but the USAF had so many dang trucks, scattered all over the world, it's hard to tell.
@@grassblade63 agreed. I wish I had more info on this truck. It would be cool to track the history of it and what bases it was at!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE If you find anything like a 'data plate' in there, or any of the paperwork that has the USAF Reg. No. (registration number), let me know. That would go a way in tracing its history. The Reg No. would look like 70B1946 or something like that. The first two digits signify the model year, the letter, which may be a B, K or L, or even A, is just a way the AF classified vehicles, and the last four digits are randomly assigned numbers, specific to each vehicle or piece of equipment. You may run across a metal data plate under the dash or hood.
@@grassblade63 a few questions before I look.
Would the data plate be stuck on (adhesive) or riveted on? I know there is a data plate that is thin metal for US property notice.
There is also a us air force bar code sticker, would that lead to anything?
Dodges were big favorites of the car haulers. I always love the pictures of them in the shop with swing-out fenders.
They are definitely special! I wish the style would come back but I know it wont. Thanks for watching!
I had a friend that had a Dodge tractor with a Detroit 6-71. He used it to move his dirt equipment. I wish I had it today I’m sure it was low mileage when he retired and sold it
That sucks! That is how it rolls some times though. They pop up from time to time so you never know! They may not be the fastest but they seem to be more than proven! Especially with a 6-71. Thanks for watching!
You standing beside that tractor makes it look small.when I was 5 was like climbing a mountain to get up in it.a monster 😂
Lol. There are times being 6’3” pays off. Makes it a lot easier getting in all the trucks haha. The big forehead is the only think I gotta worry about. Make sure I aint denting any door panels or frame rails! 😂. Thanks for watching!
That’s how trucks should still be made. Everything is made towards making it easier to maintaining it. As now it’s all the opposite. Always liked those trucks. Very nice example. 👍👍
I agree! So much easier to use and fix! Ive heard horror stories about the 855 cummins in these trucks though! Thanks for watching!
@OLDSKUULGARAGE I can tell you that the 855 had to be tilted over to the passenger side like a Ford. That means many external parts were unique to the Dodge. It was wedged in there as tight as any modern pickup with a diesel. The dog house was big and made it even more cramped in a small cab. The glass area is small, it felt like sitting in a chopped 32 Ford coupe.
@@davidkeeton6716 that is a little of what I have heard lol. I think unique would be a good word to describe it haha. Im sure it was a freight train though! These trucks are not very heavy especially without a sleeper. Do you know if the 855 still had to be tilted if the truck was a high cab or was that a high cab only motor?
@OLDSKUULGARAGE We had several of these come in the Volvo dealership where I worked. The cab looked just like this truck but the floor and motor box/dog house was different depending on the engine.
@@OLDSKUULGARAGEThose parts were unique to the Dodge. The Ford parts were different because the engine was at a different angle.
CCOL! Love it and TY for sharing it with us👊
Thank you for watching it! I appreciate you always tuning in!
Wow you have done an amazing job on your trucks FRICKIN AWESOME bub.
Thank you! I put a lot of work into them! Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE definitely is paying off appreciate ya driv,ah
@@keepontruckinoutlawlife1248 thank you!
Great video! I loved it all. NEAT old history truck. I in the early 80;s a friend and i went to a wrecking yard and we spotted a 70- Dodge it was a Concrete truck and it did have the 413, 5sod w/the 2spd rearend, I really liked how the fenders opened from the side, Another great idea Dodge came up with. Good looking you got. Those trucks will last 5 life times. And yes get rid of the split rims and go with the 11r 22's is a great idea
Thanks! They definitely have a great design and function! Designed for the job not the driver! Lol. Thanks for watching!
Worked on plenty of these, some had diesel engines while others had the 413 power house under the hood.❤❤
They were definitely modular trucks with lots of options! Many engine and driveline packages. I wish they would have been more of a hit so more could be around today!
Neat old truck, look forward to the repair videos you mentioned 😀👍👍🇬🇧
Thank you! Definitely have a few things to address on this truck in the future. Thanks for watching!
It was great having two transmissions. And keep up the great videos have a good day
Thank you! Have a great rest of your Sunday also!
Looking good with all the new goodies! 👀 thanks for the ride!
Thanks! Has definitely come a long way! Thanks for watching!
Great video, the truck looks great always liked those old dodge trucks 😊😊😊
Thank you! It has been a lot work thus far! Thanks for watching!
Learned how to drive in one of those, 426 5x4. My uncle had log bunks on it. Beast of a truck.
They definitely are beasts! Definitely without creature comforts too! Thanks for watching.
I learned to drive in one of those rigs. It was gas powered with twinsticks. It was primarily used to move trailers around.
The twin stick trucks are awesome but rare! I would love to do a conversion and add a 3 or 4 speed brownie on the back of the 5spd someday! I hope this video revived some memories! Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Brings back memories alright some not so fond. The gear shift knobs were the factory silver glitter ones kinda cool for the day. It was the mid seventies, I was in my early twenties working for a local dairy in NM on a milk dock loading semi's. Occasionally they had me move trailers . Not sure what I was doing I sweat blood an tears driving on conjested narrow oneway city streets lined with parked cars in both directions. That's how I learned to drive and eventuality get my CDL. Good luck with your project !
@@NickManCuso59 that is one way to learn to drive a rig lol! Thanks for sharing a little bit of your story!
Like your truck. I had a 1959 W300 Dodge Power Wagon with a flathead 6. The dash was the same as yours. The cab, windows was like yours too. Had the single speedo in the center, like yours was. It had a 10,000 # winch on the front bumper. A propane co had it b4 me. They had a 6" steel beam mounted on top of four steel posts. This made it possible to deliver 500 gallon propane tanks.
I bought the truck and turned it it to a portable welding rig. Put a SA200 Lincoln Welder right behind the cab. Also added a cutting torch rack. I made out well with it. Sold it. Miss it too. All the best, Pete
That trucks sounds like a beast!!! I bet she was reliable too. Thanks for sharing, hopefully this video let you reminisce a little bit. Thanks for watching!
Yes, reminisce I did ! Thanks for the drive ! Yeah, a beast she was. It was a true 4WD...wish I had never sold her 😞...all the best, Pete @@OLDSKUULGARAGE
@@petersipp5247 they pop up from time time! Lol.
I love those old Dodge Trucks been a big fan of them since I was a kid my grandfather had two that were old grain haulers and always loved how the fenders swung open the ones he had were the early 60's models with the four eyes instead of the two bug eyes
I think the earlier headlights look better on the trucks. I feel it fits the design of the truck better.
Hopefully my video brought back some good memories from your childhood! Thanks for watching!
Great video!! Congrats on the success of your resto!
Thank you, still a lot of work to go but being able to fire it up whenever is always good! Thanks for watching!
Yeah they were very unique & tuff in their own way the near west suburban village of Maywood Illinois used all Dodge vehicles for about 3 or 4 decades the village dump trucks & snow plows & Squad Cars when Dodge got out of the heavy truck market in 76 or 77 I guess they just went with a mix of Fords & GMs & I - Hs and for the village Agecy service cars & Police Cars they started useing Buick LeSabres in 1977 there was A large & very famous Buick dealer in the village at First avenue & Madison st Walter Peckat Buick Company Maywood Illinois
It is interesting you mention that. From what I have heard the dodges were very common in specific areas. And almost none in others. They definitely got many years of service probably more than they were ever intended for. It is sad a lot of them are gone. The buick dealer definitely landed a deal with the city for those city vehicles. Which makes sense but im sure it was sad seeing the big motor dodges go. Thanks for sharing and watching my video!
Looking good! Keep up the hard work!
Thank you sir! Thanks for watching too!
I worked with a similar one at tech school. It was a 72 with a 361.
That basic cab goes back to the late 50s.
It was very ingenious of Chrysler to use existing cab models for the C Series and Bighorn. They are a great looking cab in my opinion also. These gas trucks are a good look into the past and how things have really changed. Thanks for watching!
When I started driving, my Father would reach over and slap my leg and tell me, "It's a clutch peddle, not a foot rest so unless you want to replace the clutch in this, I suggest you take your foot off it between shifts and when driving down the road." I bring this up because I couldn't help but notice you riding around with your foot on the peddle. If properly adjusted, the throw out bearing should only be spinning when you step on the clutch, but with your foot riding on the peddle, yours is spinning all the time. It won't last long like that.
I was not pressing the pedal but resting my foot. The return springs on these old dodges were pretty big for the clutches. I have never heard this before but I will definitely keep this in mind for the future! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Awesome truck buddy..keep up the restoration
Thanks! These trucks can be quite a bit of work! Thanks for Watching!
Ok thanks for the reply love the car carrier
Thanks!
The first Semi I ever drove was a 900 with a 238 Detroit and 10 spd
That is awesome! I bet she was a screamer. I hope this brought back some memories! Thanks for watching!
I absolutely love watching your videos because how in depth you are explaining what your talking about is this truck a 5speed and the red button puts it in high range
Thank you, I do my best. I tried to get footage of the shifting of the two speed axle but it isn’t very obvious on the video. Maybe I will do a more in depth video on it solely at some point. Thank you for commenting and watching my videos!
Yes sir your welcome
I remember that truck back then he had a thrill show and we were sponsored by Dodge we got 23 new dodges 2 Dodge trucks and we traveled around to fair's around the country putting on automobile stunt shows
There are utube videos of some of the thrill shows of the past
Man is that cool! Being sponsored by Dodge back in the day was pretty special! I will need to look up some of these videos so I can see some old school stuff. Thanks for commenting and watching my video!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE thanks my dad also had Cooper tires and Texaco fuels and I think interstate or Delco batteries and my dad got the Dodge contract because my grandmother played bridge with the Dodges
@@roberthepburn-gr4fq wow that is history right there! Sweet! Im sure you got to handle some pretty interesting mopar history!
Can't wait for your next video man
Im still in the process of filming the video for the lower grill being done. It is taking longer than expected because of all the polishing. I am hoping to have it up this week. If not I will end up posting an update this week. Thanks for this comment, it means a lot to me!
Ok just want to thank you for all you do for your subs
You're in Jax 😀
I thought I recognized the sandwich house and the i-95 Emerson ave when I used to truck regularly down there ✌️🤠
The 413 runs really smooth.
Shhhh we cant let people know im in the armpit of America where it is 100° everyday lol. It is a great little route to take the trucks out. Not crazy amounts of traffic to deal with as these are not fast trucks. Especially with how people are on their phones all day!
Ive put a lot of work in that dang motor. It does run very smooth for a v8 though. I didnt talk on the drive because of how loud it is in the cab, but that was not transferred to the video. Thanks for watching!
Great restoration job!
Thank you! Not done yet but progress is always great!
I like these trucks thank you showing them
You are welcome! I want more people to know about them! Thanks for watching!
Australia here, That swing out fender is so clever, I've never seen that before. In Australia, we never got those American trucks as we built our own to a totally different design. Our heaviest were the Dodge 700, AT4 '63 to '72 and the D5N , 700 '73 to '79. With a Perkins 6 diesel, 361 V8 petrol or a Cummins 180 V8 diesel. Some had GM's fitted too.Single or bogie drive.
I have heard yall had some export restrictions on a lot of yalls trucks. The manuals mention some export stuff but very little.
The swing out fender really is a great idea! Most of the motors are super easy to access and makes working on the bigger truck a lot easier than the earlier coe’s or lcf’s. How common was the perkins down there? It was fairly rare here.
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@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Yeah,we had some weird import taxes and a bounty 'tax' on imported cars, trucks and tractors to protect local industry, at the time. You could personally import an American truck, but you really paid a lot of tax.As for the 6-354 Perkins ,they are in everything over here, thousands of them,in trucks,tractors,harvesters. Mechanics call them 'Plastic Perkins'.
@@johnkauppi7078 the perkins trucks are something like double digit production numbers for each year for all the dodge trucks. Especially earlier on. Which makes them pretty rare here in the states. That is funny yall got more! I have heard they are generally pretty reliable with only a few issues to them. Cool stuff!
Awesome Ole gal looks awesome brother
Thanks man I appreciate it! She has come a long way to this point! Thanks for watching!
A gasoline V8 in a 5th wheel tractor? That’s very very rare.
Sweet
It would have been more common in its day for regional trucks. Long haul otr would have used diesels. I made it a tractor to pull my stepdeck and carry the imperial/other equipment. For 3-5mpg unloaded its a hefty cost every drive lol. Thanks for watching!
I have a 1971 C700 that was purchased new by a small town in Pennsylvania. I originally had a factory dump bed and snow plow. When I bought it there was a flatbed on it. It has a 413 industrial with a 5 speed and 2 speed axle. Hoping to get it on the road within the next year. It is a father/sons project that has been waiting for about 15 years to get a refirb. started.
That is awesome!!! They are great trucks and fairly simple to work on! Is it juice or air brakes? Aint nothing to it but to get going on it with little stuff! Before you know it you will be rolling down the strip!
Thanks for watching!
It currently has juice, but we are looking for a donor chassis that we can convert to air.
@@markmasters2701 if you want a modern chassis check Kerns Truck parts in Atlanta, and if you want an older chassis check c&h truck parts. I would also join the swing out fender truck group if you havent on facebook. Lots of adds popping up there with these trucks. Hope that helps a little bit!
New to the channel, cool video Broski
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy what I post!
Very nice. I replaced the governed carburetor on mine with a ford carburetor from a 69 F series truck. Also replaced the distributor with a one wire ready to run kind. Also 413/361 family. I can hit speeds of 70-73! Top recommended rpm around 3800.
I have seen your truck and it looks great! I actually recognized the profile pic too!
I want to stay governed for mine and actually have two governed four barrels ready to swap as is but I like the two barrel. Mine isnt as fast as yours lol. The truck was offroad optioned so gearing is super low and max speed with two speed axle engaged is 55mph maybe 60 really cooking along. I like to keep it around 3k-3500 though if doing highway stuff.
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Awesome truck!
Thanks! I have put lots of work into it! Thanks for watching!
sounds good
Thanks! Definitely mopar! Thanks for watching!
You might be able to adapt a 67-72 GM light truck door latch and striker to your doors, they are a fairly similar shape and size to the old Fargo-era dodge cabs and function in a similar way.
They do look like they may fit but I will be repairing the old lock. I have figured out how to fix it I just didnt do it correctly the last time lol.
If more stuff was missing I would definitely convert but there is too much that would have to get modified for me to do it at this time. It does look like even the door handle functions in a similar manner though. It is not a bad Idea though and I will mention this in the video I do on the door latch! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Very cool, thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Please show us the cold starting procedure with the inside view!
That is a great Idea I did not think of! I will do that here soon! Thanks for the recommendation and for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE hell yeah! Would love to see it with everything you have
I liked it 👍
Thank you!!!
Nice rig
Thank you!
Cool truck
Thanks! Lots of work has been put into it!
When driving any vehicle with a standard trans you never put it in neutral and let it coast. If anything were to happen; brake or clutch failure; you may not get it back in gear: Then you have a run away. It is. Not a good practice
That was explained to me by another commenter. I was bobtailing but I also understand the bad habit building of when I am hauling how it could be bad. Only thing I am not fully understanding is not getting back in gear. I have never had an issue getting the truck back in gear. Can you explain this to me more so that I understand better?
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What I am asking is, what prevents me from putting the truck back in gear? I understand coming to a stop with engine braking. I want to make a video explaining to newer drivers as well so that others do not make the same mistakes.
Nice to see. However, that air cleaner set up you currently have will draw very warm air which is not the most efficient for combustion and fuel milage. Cool air drawn from the outside his denser and therefor much more efficient for combustion and mileage as well to a certain extent.
Yes you are correct. Originally the truck had an oil bath air cleaner in that spot. I decided to use the oiled filter element type because it is easy to maintain and I am not in a dusty environment. I do not want to convert to exterior air cleaner as that would involve cutting a hole in the hood. I'm not worried about mileage that much though. The truck gets an average of 3mpg and even worse loaded. They were not known for their efficiency lol! Thanks for Watching!
I see the D, B, and H, knobs on the dash, defrost, blower, and heat. But what the the T and V knobs control? I guess V is for Vent...
I love them big old trucks!
The V is for vent. There is a cowl vent that pops up where the cowl should be. It looks like the early ford f100 pop up vents.
T is for throttle. The throttle gets pulled out when idling for pto use. You can raise it to a specific rpm to get the correct speed and power for the pto. The governor system that works between the carb and distributor regulates the throttle to keep the engine from stalling under load. It basically self regulates once throttle is set. Thanks for watching! I should have mentioned all the vents in the truck!
It grinds because you're not double clutching. Notice you're not hitting the split so it's like you're shifting wide and jumping a gear each time. It wasn't too long after that where they got rid of the two speed rear end and came out with the Eaton Ten Speed transmission. I still like those better than the 9/13/18 speeds. Simpler in the city.
It is a synchronized box from 2nd to 5th. You do not need to double clutch when shifting from 2nd through fifth unless pulling a load. It was grinding because I am still learning the truck/rookie driver. The gates are super loose on these transmissions but not the worst. I am starting to get the feel of it but still make mistakes. I would love to drive the truck more but it is very expensive to run with todays gas prices and the mileage it gets in the city.
The ten speeds were out at the time but you have to remember most trucks were not national otr. They were regional or local which is where the 5spd and 2spd rear axle come in. Cool little fact is you could order a c series with the 413 gas motor and an eaton 10speed. That is a very rare gear set to find today.
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nice old truck
Thanks for the compliment and watching my video!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE you're welcome
Like the old gmc crackerjack day cab
It is a 1971 Dodge L1000 with a Big Cam iii Cummins. I have a series on that truck on my channel but it is nowhere near drivable yet. Someday though! Thanks for watching!
Mine is a dump truck with a 16 ft bed its a blast put in first and first go get coffee maybe a donut or two
I bet that thing has seen some heavy loads! Do you still haul with it from time to time?
Drove a single axle tractor like that with a 210 hp Cummins and 5 speed 2 speed rear transmission
The v8 cummins sound really cool! Im sure it was a beast in a single axle truck! Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE it was ok decent power I only pulled light loads with it pulled those little 28 foot pup trailers with it
@@ernestpassaro9663 as long as it got the job done with little breakdowns that is all that matters! Single axle trucks are definitely a lot rarer these days!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE those single axle b model macks with the huge rears could pull really heavy loads wouldn’t trust any other single axle to move those loads
Nice looking truck for its age
Still needs tlc but it really does look great. It was in pretty good shape when I got it. More like a diamond in the rough. I like the green too.
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE right
began working in a small family owned garage in 75? greener the &&^%%^ BUT! loved MOPARs. customers all cherished there rigs! i did my best to keep them working. scrapper owned his Dodge. like clock work; alway's brought in for service. battery box in the fender was a dumb area! weight. rust. truck wasn't old. alway's kept a tooth pick above the dash. kinda gross....good luck!
The battery on the fender really is dumb lol. Im sure you have some great and maybe not so great memories in these trucks lol. And mopars are great! Totally not biased! Thanks for watching!
between my late bro and i; we owned from 65 barracuda to 71 Challenger. had a 69 Daytona. had a myraid of muscle cars....i never owned a 70 GTX with air grabber..the model i alway's wanted.! ....too much money now!...ride a 1974 Harley FXE Superglide now.
Is the two speed button working,, ? , if it is you have 2 higher end gears left using the fifth over gear pattern shift, possibly,? Best learned on country back road when splitting gears though. Thank you for the update,, very cool rig,,!
Yes, the two speed rear is working. I used it a couple times in the video but it is hard to see because of the camera not picking it up. A few issues though that will be addressed in a video later. One is I need bigger tires so the ratio of the overall final drive will match the transmission behind the speedometer. The transmission has a “safety” switch that requires the truck to be going 40mph in order for the two speed rear axle to engage. I may bypass it but I am not sure yet. It would be cool to just add another stick with a brownie and leave the safety switch active! Thanks for watching!
I never heard of that safety switch. It was always splitting the first three gears, then 4 low, 5 low, 4 high then 5 high. Also, any air brake trucks I drove the two speed rear was air activated, not electric. Live and learn. @@OLDSKUULGARAGE
@@oldrustycars i think it may have been a dodge and international thing. Dont ask me why cause I think it is a weird design. The 34k eatons arent the strongest out there but they definitely would be fine splitting with a load.
The power comes from the switch up to to the transmission (speedo unit) which is hooked up behind the speedometer. When you hit 40mph it allows current to go to the solenoids which allow air to the shift unit. I wasnt able to get into 2nd speed for a while and it turns out the wire from the transmission (not the gearbox but the gear unit for the speedometer) was unplugged from the bulkhead. Super weird stuff. But however the truck was optioned for wheels you simply changed the transmission instead of a unit in the gearbox or the entire speedometer.
@@oldrustycars also I should mention if the truck had juice brakes there was an electric motor that shifted the axle. Not air. Thats a lot rarer but just a really weird thing that apparently broke a lot. Early eaton and rockwell both had some weird designs for the medium duty and medium-heavy duty trucks.
Have a Travco 320 with the industrial 440.
Awesome! Ill bet she runs like a top! Great motors! Thanks for watching!
Definitely could use a Cat 1160 V8 diesel swap or a cummins 555 swap.
@@MaxtronusPrime_ i will be leaving the gas engine in the truck. Air brakes and gas engines are an awesome pair! There is a lot of history associated with gas engines in big trucks as well. It also drives very different than a diesel truck. Thanks for watching!
There used to be one in a local truck scrap yard, not sure if it's still there or not.
Usually they are pretty rotted out when they have been sitting for a while. Hopefully someone has gotten some parts off of it before too late! Thanks for watching!
Come see if you can drive that truck in Boston
Okay! Thank you for your comment!
Cool truck as always why do grind the last Geer is that u or the truck lol
Thanks, I believe it could be a bit of both me and the truck. I havent tried to see fully if it is the truck though. It is a fully synchro transmission so I dont need to double clutch when unloaded but it does seem the synchro in fifth gear may be going out. To test double clutch fifth would be appropriate. The truck sat for 20 years so it is possible that fifth’s synchro is broken down/rotted from the oil. The truck was also in a wreck which means it could have been in a wreck in fifth gear. Ill probably be doing a video on it at some point. Third gear in my d500 has a similar issue that was caused by a wreck. Thanks for watching!
Slant six 225 pump engine Hendrickson walking beam suspension that 413 Chrysler is a torque monster 5 speed with 2 speed rear end
It tops at 45-50mph without the two speed and you can get another 5mph witht the two speed. I dont remember the rears ratios, its been a while. I want to say something along the lines of 7.70 lowest. 6.70 with the two speed. Thanks for watching!
Shifts pretty good
Yeah, the gear box is in great shape. Definitely a sloppier transmission by todays standards. But all the synchros seem to be working great. Definitely could be a lot worse! Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE love your channel
@@nelsonmattoon150 I appreciate the love!
The company I used to work for (Dura Automotive) probably made the vent windows in your truck.
They most likely made all the vent windows on the lot! Super cool stuff, and American Made!
Call this rig Franklin cause of the turtle 🐢 on the dash 😅
Rat fink lol! It does look like a turtle though haha and so does the truck! Thanks for watching!
@OLDSKUULGARAGE your welcome I enioy watching and rat 🐀 fink is awesome look forward to the next video 📹
Float those gears it’ll will drop right in to gear how about some down shifting maybe split the rear also I wanna see some driving
I am no professional and I am learning still but I will be getting some videos of the truck here soon. I need new tires for the rear or at least some that arent flat spotted lol. Thanks for watching!
That is a sweet truck. Very nice. Respectfully, please learn to downshift.
Thank you! I was just out bobtailing in the truck! I didnt realize people would be more interested in seeing proper driving. I was mainly trying to record the sights and sounds! Thank you for watching!
I noticed it had a 2 speed, was that on both rears or was one rear a tag axle and was the trans a syncro ?
The truck does have live tandems. If I remember off of the top of my head it has 6.70 low ratio. The transmission is a spicer 5653 and is only slightly different from the 5652. Mainly in gearing. It is synchro from 2nd-5th but I dont know the condition of the synchros. Thanks for watching!
The cab is the Sweptline pickup cab...parts wise.
Actually almost everything is different component wise. I thought it would be also but it turned out to not be. The latch assemblies are all specific and the cabs are based off of the mid 50s and 57-59 trucks. Door handles and stuff were all the same though as you stated. There are some minor changes over time but mainly resemble those earlier trucks. Fun fact the cabs were made by chrysler into the 80s for another small truck manufacturer. Thank you for watching!
How is the cab for space? Im 6'2" and looking at a D900 for a grain truck
I am 6’3”. It is fair. The closer vehicle would be my D500. That would have the same cab. They are fairly good for space but the C series has a smaller cab. I think the D series steering column is a bit lower though. Thanks for watching!
The air force used them as refueling jets thay had 1000galon tanks 210 comings with 175 horses power
Yessir! They had the mufflers up front too! There is one on VintageMilitaryTrucks.com . They are definitely uniquely designed Tankers! Thanks for sharing!
I'm retired I have 40 ac and I play around the ranch. One job I did was 35 ton of stone thank the lord it was only a mile an a half. If you can put it in a dump I hauled it
That is a lot of weight! A lot of those dumps are gone, thanks for keeping yours around!
What kind of a motor does it have ? Thanks
It has a Chrysler 413 Industrial Motor with a 2300MG Holley and Holley Governed Distributor. Thanks for watching!
Hey Man, great video! That's a cool truck.
I noticed you have an air valve on the dash....normally I'd think that's the deep reduction valve
Also, you should look into "double clutching"....you might have heard of it.
Anyways, we have alot in common, would be nice chatting with you sometime!
Thanks! The valve on the dash is the parking brake disengagement button. The two speed axle engagement is kind weird where is electronic over air. Simply put you can only engage the two speed axle over a certain speed. Kinda odd lol.
Yeah I generally dont double clutch when bob tailing but definitely under load. I have gotten some other comments because of that lol.
We definitely do some similar stuff that is for sure. Im definitely gonna watch some more of your videos when I get home tonight!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE That's a nice parking brake valve. I've only seen the push/pull type....thje type you have is definetely better....can easily be replaced by a 3-way valve if you need to....mine is a combination type on my triaxle....stupid plastic...has a crack in it would like to replace it.
I have a 2 speed differential on my international as well! Used to be electric. I converted it to air!!....now there's a hydraulic 3-way valve on my shift stick.
I thought someone would have mentioned the double clutch to you....I do it even when empty and even on my car...i think it works alot better
@@OldCrowsClassicCars ohhh im sorry I thought you were talking about the black push pull valve lolol which is plastic haha. The switch valve is a valve that limits brake pressure by 50% to the front wheels for wet weather. Im gonna do a video on startup procedures and the stuff on the dash at some point.
I think im gonna leave mine electric for now. Definitely has crossed my mind before though. I would like to convert the truck to a 5x4 setup with an auxiliary at some point which almost wouldn’t need the two speed rear axle but not sure yet. There is a lot to that conversion.
And yeah i got a lot of comments for the coasting in neutral. I didnt realize people would want to see lots of downshifting and proper double clutching. It was failure on my part forgetting there are a lot of trucker guys that are interested in the driving and the sounds/ clanks of the truck. Live and learn I guess.
I can send you a close up of the dash if you would like me too.
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE Oh, I see the "brake limiter" I have one also.
It's quite abit of working making a air unit for the differential.
I learned about the "not coasting in neutral" late as well.
Have you ever done a transmission swap? I'm currently doing one on my international...but couldn't get the transmission all the way in.
Whereabouts in the states do you live? Perhaps I could help you in your projects someday
@OldCrowsClassicCars i have never done a transmission swap although i would recommend spending good money on a transmission jack and staying on concrete where you can roll the jack. Also make sure you are lifting square.
If you cant get the transmission in all the way make sure you have the clutch square to the input shaft with a proper alignment tool.
Personally I think coasting is fine until you are loaded or pulling anything. The truck only weighs 11,500lbs. There are heavy 1 ton trucks on the road. Obviously as the weights of the vehicles go up you will need to be more concerned with leaving it in gear and engine braking. Where it can be an issue is emergency braking and not being able to get the truck back into gear on a steep grade.
I am down in Florida.
we already have a skull garage
It is pronounced “school”. It is spelled differently than skull. Thanks for watching!
all you are right sorry
@@glenncutright9769 no problem.
Is that the same as a Fargo ? Deboss garage has one similar
The Dodge trucks were the American Brand. Fargo is the Canadian brand. They are both c series dodges. In ‘60 when the c series was released Desoto had their own line. But only for that year I believe as desoto was disbanded in ‘61. Fargo’s are a lot rarer for the fact there were fewer trucks sold in Canada. Thanks for Watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE well that makes sense cuz DBG is in Canada Great content. I’m subscribed
@@Smcquoid12345 I appreciate the sub!
They are cool trucks. I wish more were out there for people to experience them.
It's a 71 but it has a 50s cab that's cool
Super cool! Chrysler used the cab for other companies into the 80s too! They were very resourceful with their designs! Thanks for watching!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE now Ford does the same thing, they use the 98- early 2000s Ford cab on the F-650s till this day.
@@gerardomendoza9688 yeah it financially makes sense for trucks that wont be sold very often. As they are rarer. Weird realm of automobiles!
I like the old dodge but it is not equipped with a "motor" If it's internally combusted it's an 'engine'.
Technically speaking either description fits. A motor is something that imparts motion while an engine converts energy into motion. All engines are motors but not all motors are engines. Thank you for watching!
It sure runs quiet, doesnt it?
No lol. The microphone didnt pick any of the noise level up. I didnt talk the whole drive because I felt the camera wouldnt be able to hear me lol. Im getting a mic here soon to hopefully help with sound quality of my videos. It is a pretty noisy truck inside. Not clanking wise but the motor is loud. Thanks for watching!
I think the crown jewel would be to find a big horn truck
A bighorn would be awesome! But I believe almost all of them have been discovered. At least the ones that are left. They go for a lot of money in a broken down state too. Maybe someday, but right now im going to keep dreaming about owning one in the c series truck lol! Thanks for watching and commenting on my videos!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE I hear you can't wait to see the cabover when finished
@@nelsonmattoon150 i cant lie, when the L1000 is done I want to see it riding next to a bighorn! It would be an awesome sight to see!
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE yes it would. Love what you are doing and keep up with great work 👍
@@nelsonmattoon150 Thanks!
Looks just like your but 24.5 all around
Ahhh. These trucks fit the bigger wheels and tires really well. They are great looking trucks all around! Not that I am biased in any way lol.
Horrible driving habit to throw it in neutral and roll up to the corners. You would fail a driving test in these parts.
I have come to learn that now from the comments on this video. I was taught coasting was okay originally. Live and Learn! Thanks for watching!
I see he can't shift gears properly and using neutral to slow down and reliance on the brakes alone this boy is a danger
Yes you are correct. I am bob tailing so I am not going to be down shifting. There is no need. All these old transmissions have been abused by people that really really dont know from the military in the early 70s. Spicer 5 speeds are not known for there smooth shifting especially when cold and brand new. To shift into first without grinding the gears you have to raise the throttle and let it rest. Same with reverse. Even from a dead stop. That slop though lead to lots of reliability from these transmissions in school buses and regional trucks. Also I believe i was missing in 5th but not sure. 2nd-5th are synchronized but I still have trouble on 5th. I am going to keep saying im missing the gear until i get eyes on that synchronizer which are known for degrading in hypoid specific oils after sitting for extended periods.
I will be seeking further training for managing full loads at some point even though I never plan to haul anything real in this truck. Or do any real amounts of hauling. Pulling my 30ft stepdeck trailer with a load will be the only load it may ever see. I cant legally pull that though until I get licensed and properly trained.
Also why is it inappropriate to use neutral when slowing down? I have such big brakes on this truck and no load.
Thank you for watching though. Please feel free to drop any advice.
I do the same in my '65 F100. It weighs 5,300 #'s. I am over the mgvw by 300 #'s...
He is bob tailing...no weight...no problem.@@OLDSKUULGARAGE
@@OLDSKUULGARAGE I know it would be a bitchy box to shift down and petrol gas v8 is harder to get revs to match your speed to grab gears , easy way to figure this is to consintrate on how high your engine is revving and what speed you are doing when you up shift then pull it into neutral give excelerater and kick and go back down if engine speed matches road speed gear will glide in nicely , just keep practising up shift then back down until you got it mate , practice makes perfect , and no I don't expect you to be a pro immediately but these old trucks teach drivers much better than new trucks will teach, after a while you will love kicking that v8 in the guts coming down thru the gears like a race truck
@@holdenbrougham1056 i appreciate the advice. I have only rev matched a little here and there. Now that i have the truck in a better place I can practice more consistently now. If I get good enough with that transmission just about any other transmission will be cake. I appreciate the criticism and responding!
@@petersipp5247 i do need to practice downshifting to get more consistent at rev matching but yeah I was bob tailing lol.
Me parece que sos mal conductor! Cambios perdidos y tirar a neutral a casi 100 mts de un alto máxime en un vehículo tan antiguo
I am not the best driver yes, but everytime I coasted in neutral I was below 25mph. I know it is a bad habit for hauling but I was bob tailing in the video. The truck weighs 11,500 lbs as is in the video. Thanks for Watching!
I swear ford and dodge tried their hardest to make the ugliest trucks 😅
@@jimmychanbers2424 personally I think Ford won that contest! Lol totally not biased! You have to remember though that specifically Dodge was going after form over function and less about style until the mid seventies where the big truck side was shut down. Unique is definitely a word to describe them lol. Thanks for watching!
Full of baloney tonys garage. ?........no thanx
Yes that is his Channel. Great video talking about some differences. Thanks for watching!
That is a very cool truck. It would be neat to put a Cummins 6bt or 8.3 in there, but if you aim to keep it original, the 413 industrial is a damn good motor (just need to slap a 4 Barrel and headers so it can BREATHE) thanks for sharing
I do plan to leave it original but you never know what will break. I have a holley 4bbl governed that matches what would have been on the truck if it was a four barrel. Dont know if or when I will do it. It definitely is cool though! Thanks for watching!