James you are crazy for Derrick and Gus comparisons. Henry is a multi time 2k rusher. Gus could be the only RB on a team and wouldnt get more than 1200
Totally agree and find the comparison not only ridiculous but pretty insulting to the King. Gus is good and big and fast, but Derrick Henry has always been bigger faster and stronger by a lot.
I think Gus could very easily be a 1400 yard running in an offense where he’s featured. Derrick Henry would never come close to his previous numbers because Lamar is there.
@danielkunimoto4436 Why would the Ravens never feature him if he was so electric? He's been good, but his before and after contact numbers don't compare with anyone who has run for 1,400 yards. The Ravens running game with Lamar creates almost an extra yard before contact for the backs, which is a huge advantage.
@@danielkunimoto4436 I’m not saying Derrick would get 2k here. For account of his age as well. It just seemed like D riding to even put them in the same ballpark. And I like Gus. In fact I wanted us to give em the ball constantly in the chiefs game. As did plenty of people
@Spencedog_23 Based on what? Henry has so much more production than Saquon and less major injury history. He has double digit touchdowns the last 6 years in a row with only 1 season slightly under 1,000 yards when he broke his foot. All running backs are high risks for injuries and rapid decline regardless of age. Age is the only statistical advantage he has.
@@jeremiahw1369Henry has more carries, takes more hits, only a 2 down back, isn’t explosive through the hole, his best days are behind him. 30 year old rb as well. Tennessee ran him in the ground. Barkley is younger, faster, quicker, more explosive, doesn’t need 25 carries to get going, can score at any time, 3 down back, can pass protect as well
Sometimes, it seems like 2019 playoffs are the determining factor for wanting Henry. He’s not a fit, too much wear and tear, 30 years old, and only a 2 down back
I agree with Jimmy. Saquon brings us a 3 down back that we haven’t had in recent years. I’m tired of teams seeing Ricard and Gus line up in the backfield and know what the play is (inside handoff). Saquon may not be as powerful downhill, but he can do more with less and is more versatile. We have too many guys to feed on this offense to have to force feed Derrick Henry just to get him rolling. If he needs 5-6 touches to warmup, that’s 5-6 touches Zay, Mark, Likely, or Bateman could have had. And just wait until Keaton is healthy. Then we will have Lamar, Saquon, and Keaton and they all can bounce it outside or hit the hole!
would definitely choose saqaun over henry if price is the same. People are misinterpreting james comparison between gus and henry. Henry is better but they are USED similarly. We need that duel threat back. Also, anyone brining up Saquan's injuries, our backs get injured every year anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Henry and Gus are the same type of back…they are two down backs…can’t use them on third down because they lack in pass catching…Barkley is the better fit…
*HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT DERRICK HENRY IS A 2 DOWN BACK SAQUON POLLARD JACOBS THEY'RE ALL 3 DOWN BACKS. JUST BECAUSE BARKLEY ONLY HAD 12 MORE CATCHES THAN HENRY DOESN'T MEAN HENRY IS JUST AS GOOD. IT JUST MEANS THE GIANTS DIDN'T USE HIM IN THE PASSING GAME. BARKLEY IS AN OUTSTANDING RECEIVING BACK*
@@vantheravensfan Barkley has been in the league for 6 years and has Three 1000 yard seasons. He has had 1 season in the past 4 years where he has gone over 1000 yards. Gus Edwards puts up around 600-800 yards a season at a fraction of the cost of Barkley. If your going to sign Barkley....resign Gus. Henry on the other hand in the past 6 years has 1,167-1,538-937-2,027-1,540-1,059. I don't even need to put up the other 2. Henry is a better back then all of them.
Saquon played on turf which may have contributed to his injuries. I’d be happy with either, both massive upgrades. Any love for JK coming back on a 1 yr?
Nobody is talking about Dalvin Cook either. We could sign him cheaply, and he would be a great addition. Finding another back like Keaton Mitchell in the late round drafts would be awesome as well. people praised the ravens, running attack and yet I saw so many times were Gus was given the ball and did not have a hole to run through. And as we saw in the AFC title game, I hate even bringing it up, is that we didn’t utilize Gus. So I agree with James. What’s the frustration going to be like when we’ve got Saquon or Pollard or King Henry and they’re not utilized? We have the best scouting team in the NFL finding these undrafted free agents that are amazing. These Marquie running backs are too much money. We just lean on the draft.
I doubt that the price would be the same for Henry and Barclay because that makes the choice too easy. I believe Henry is the right player and will be the right price as well.
Whoever we get, he needs to be a 3 down back. One of our offensive weaknesses toward the end of the season and especially in the playoffs is that Justice Hill was being utilized as a 3 down back. As long as Saquon can stay healthy, he is a MUCH better option than Hill. I wouldn't hate that acquisition at all.
Henry - more financial flexibility and healthier. He was a less efficient runner in TEN because opposing defenses all they did was plan for him. In BAL, he will have a better Oline and so many other weapons as decoys to create him space. Justice/keaton is sufficient for off speed or pass catching for the few checkdowns. Saquon will want a long term payout as this will be his last big contract for an RB, no way he is only taking 10mAAV
James, you took the conversation way left when you started arguing against bringing in over Saquon. Henry most of the time and is a TERROR against defenses. The dude is a monster and if we could get him and Evans on our squad, it’s over for the league.
Is the running back get less touches it's no point by getting a running back from free agent. I will draft a running back. In my lineup it will be Keaton Mitchell,Braelon Allen, Justice Hill, Auckric Estime,Ray Davis,
Wondering if Dallas gets Henry could we get Pollard on a cheaper aas but longer deal? Another name to keep an eye out for is Moss. He's cheaper and he torches is when we played the Colts
King Henry is the way to go. He’s 6’3 and the way he runs down the field is beyond amazing! He’s good for the cap space and he’s less injury prone. We need a running back who’s more healthier and fit.
Baltimore Ravens Top 5 blueprint reasons that will help the Ravens win the Superbowl. 1. Harbaugh during 2024-2025 seasons let Lamar cook all game . Yes his stats will benefit from that but thats not the reason why! When it’s time to have a shoot out , back and forth especially in the playoffs not just the Lamar but the whole team will be comfortable when that moment happens. 2. Harbaugh ,doesn’t matter how tempted you become because next year schedule will be difficult with regular season games. Don’t celebrate 🎉 like you won the superbowl like you did in the AFC divisional game this past season . That moment gave the team a subliminal false hope like we accomplished our goal and we came out flat the following week. 3.Lamar I get it as a fellow Christian we sometimes get confused as being humble for taking a backseat letting the situation pass us by. LJ8 and Ravens have to accept that y’all not the underdog anymore. I need you to play every game that you don’t care which team you playing you’re the best player and the Ravens best team on that field. It’s important you put that energy in the air and the team will follow you with that attitude. I can’t stand the (CHEFS) lol but I do give them props that they believe they’re the big dawgs no matter who they’re playing. 4. This for the Ravens fans! When opposing fans are hating on LJ with this bull crap about his stats . Y’all need to pushback right away and let them know that he don’t play in the 4th quarter or when we get to the goalline instead of padding his stats the Ravens gave it Gus. Example: In the Divisional round vs Houston the haters said LJ pass for only 152 . If you watch that game he only threw the ball 2 times in the 4th quarter and 1 was a TD. All Ravens fans know LJ could had throw easily for 275 in the 2nd half alone. The Ravens in the 2nd half did what they want. Now why that’s important is because when the most important game in LJ life / career we need him to play with a clear mind playing his game. That means when he see an open lane take it. 5. Injuries free
Go young and cheap in regards to a few late round picks on RB position. Also, bring in undrafted talent. These older players cannot be trusted for loyalty and performance !!!
why is almost no one talking about josh jacobs i got him as rb 1 for the fa ravens and not even close younger productive croowded market may push his price down
Neither if Henry is gonna cost 10 mil. We don't feature running backs so getting a tier 1 isn't a need. Get a vet like moss or similar and draft a depth piece in rnds 4-6. Focus on O-line future and your running backs will benefit
I really don’t want to spend money on Derrick Henry. I’d be okay with saquon or Jacob’s. I’d prefer to not spend money on RB when we have big holes on the OLine and you have WR talent like Mike Evan’s out there
I don't know guys. I think Henry would be great for the Ravens but the bigger need is better run blocking. The second half of 2023 The Ravens o line run blocking kind of sucked. At the beginning of every game they would try to get the run game going and if it wasn't working then they shied away from it.
its Barkley or bust? Saquon numbers don’t do him justice because of the talent he’s had around him during the past several years But if you look at his rookie season, he combined 2000 yards in 15 touchdowns, and that was due because his quarterback was Eli and he played with the real version of OBJ
Y sign a RB at all if talkin aboit giving them 8-11 carries a game? U give DH 11 carries a game he may only have 40 yds rushing. Hes not an explosive runner and he gete stuffed alot. So what yall are sayin make 0 sense. DH also lines up DEEP in the backfield in single back sets in order to pick up steam . We dont really run alot of under center RB 7-8 yards deep plays. Its not schematically what we do. Monken system is more sprea out so its not a fit honestly. Saquon iw a much better fit but injuriy history contract length is a sticking point. But hes a true 3 down back which Ravens need . It may come down to just resign Dalvin Cook. Draft a rookie RblB an have Hill as the 3rd RB until Keaton ia cleared to come back.
Hey boys am I crazy or does nobody like the Justice/ Dalvin backfield. I don't think spending that kind of money when I Running back is going to happen. We have lost 5 running backs for the season in the past 3 years. Spend that money on a receiver
Sorry James, you are completely wrong! Barkley has an injury prone history and his unavailability will be a distinct disadvantage, along with his pedestrian production.
They can't pay either of them right now Baltimore sits at 5.1M in cap space, they are most likely to tag Madubuike 20M to afford this they have to clear 16M in cap space, then through the next 2 months they will have to clear another 20M for the draft class, then they also have to pay 8.3M cap hit, so no ig name free agents are coming to Baltimore and they will draft a RB mid round to become the next RB1
I don't think they can afford the tag price. I think they find a way to sign Madubuike to a contract extension which would lower his first year cap hit. Then they have to do some restructuring to veteran contracts like Andrews Humphrey and possibly Lamar to free up more space
Easy pass on Saquon due to injury concerns. And sorry but Gus and Henry are not anywhere near on the same level. The way the Ravens internal media is pumping Henry content, it's more likely that they're doing a bait and switch causing distraction.
I like a Derrick Henry signing for the right price. I truly want the Ravens to resign Madibuke and Arthur Maulet. Then FA signings should be Damien Lewis (G), Willie Gay (ILB), and Tyler Boyd (WR). Cut Ben Cleveland. Restructure Moses, Stanley, Mekari, Humphrey, and Marcus Williams.
James you are crazy for Derrick and Gus comparisons. Henry is a multi time 2k rusher. Gus could be the only RB on a team and wouldnt get more than 1200
Totally agree and find the comparison not only ridiculous but pretty insulting to the King. Gus is good and big and fast, but Derrick Henry has always been bigger faster and stronger by a lot.
I think Gus could very easily be a 1400 yard running in an offense where he’s featured. Derrick Henry would never come close to his previous numbers because Lamar is there.
@danielkunimoto4436 Why would the Ravens never feature him if he was so electric? He's been good, but his before and after contact numbers don't compare with anyone who has run for 1,400 yards. The Ravens running game with Lamar creates almost an extra yard before contact for the backs, which is a huge advantage.
@@danielkunimoto4436 I’m not saying Derrick would get 2k here. For account of his age as well. It just seemed like D riding to even put them in the same ballpark. And I like Gus. In fact I wanted us to give em the ball constantly in the chiefs game. As did plenty of people
Multiple time 2k rusher?????
What happened with Dalvin Cook roster spot? I’m confused I know he was just a pickup
The king. For the Price tag. And I’ve been dreaming about this for years. I’ve been manifesting it for years. It will happen.
Me too. Ever since he stiff armed Earl right out of the league, I have been jealous of having a centaur for a running back.
Why? He’s foot far less in the tank than Barkley. Barkley is a better version of IR spot JK. Without being injuries every season and more talent
@Spencedog_23 Based on what? Henry has so much more production than Saquon and less major injury history. He has double digit touchdowns the last 6 years in a row with only 1 season slightly under 1,000 yards when he broke his foot.
All running backs are high risks for injuries and rapid decline regardless of age. Age is the only statistical advantage he has.
@@jeremiahw1369Henry has more carries, takes more hits, only a 2 down back, isn’t explosive through the hole, his best days are behind him. 30 year old rb as well. Tennessee ran him in the ground.
Barkley is younger, faster, quicker, more explosive, doesn’t need 25 carries to get going, can score at any time, 3 down back, can pass protect as well
@jonathancarrington2330 I like Saquon also, but Henry had a better season last year with a rookie qb. He still has a lot of speed and agility.
Sometimes, it seems like 2019 playoffs are the determining factor for wanting Henry. He’s not a fit, too much wear and tear, 30 years old, and only a 2 down back
Yea and the ravens will choose the old declining player I bet. That's what they do for the offense
I’m an obsessive fan with no real football knowledge but I’d rather solidify our O-LINE, even if that means “overpaying”
I agree with Jimmy. Saquon brings us a 3 down back that we haven’t had in recent years. I’m tired of teams seeing Ricard and Gus line up in the backfield and know what the play is (inside handoff). Saquon may not be as powerful downhill, but he can do more with less and is more versatile. We have too many guys to feed on this offense to have to force feed Derrick Henry just to get him rolling. If he needs 5-6 touches to warmup, that’s 5-6 touches Zay, Mark, Likely, or Bateman could have had. And just wait until Keaton is healthy. Then we will have Lamar, Saquon, and Keaton and they all can bounce it outside or hit the hole!
Y'all sleeping on Jacob. That's seems like in out of nowhere signing that EDC would do
Jacobs would be the best option. Henry to me is the #2.
Jacob's is a fraud
@@imamonkey-iz8ek how is he a fraud?
would definitely choose saqaun over henry if price is the same. People are misinterpreting james comparison between gus and henry. Henry is better but they are USED similarly. We need that duel threat back. Also, anyone brining up Saquan's injuries, our backs get injured every year anyway, so it doesn't matter.
I'll take either one and hopefully we can get them
If he thinks Henry and Gus are anywhere near the same back he really doesn't know what he's talking about. Barkley stays hurt
Henry and Gus are the same type of back…they are two down backs…can’t use them on third down because they lack in pass catching…Barkley is the better fit…
@@paulcovington9268 not true in the interview dude said Saquon had 12 more receiving catches then Henry
You clearly don't know what you're talking about
*HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT DERRICK HENRY IS A 2 DOWN BACK SAQUON POLLARD JACOBS THEY'RE ALL 3 DOWN BACKS. JUST BECAUSE BARKLEY ONLY HAD 12 MORE CATCHES THAN HENRY DOESN'T MEAN HENRY IS JUST AS GOOD. IT JUST MEANS THE GIANTS DIDN'T USE HIM IN THE PASSING GAME. BARKLEY IS AN OUTSTANDING RECEIVING BACK*
@@vantheravensfan Barkley has been in the league for 6 years and has Three 1000 yard seasons. He has had 1 season in the past 4 years where he has gone over 1000 yards. Gus Edwards puts up around 600-800 yards a season at a fraction of the cost of Barkley. If your going to sign Barkley....resign Gus. Henry on the other hand in the past 6 years has 1,167-1,538-937-2,027-1,540-1,059. I don't even need to put up the other 2. Henry is a better back then all of them.
Saquon played on turf which may have contributed to his injuries. I’d be happy with either, both massive upgrades. Any love for JK coming back on a 1 yr?
Nobody is talking about Dalvin Cook either. We could sign him cheaply, and he would be a great addition. Finding another back like Keaton Mitchell in the late round drafts would be awesome as well. people praised the ravens, running attack and yet I saw so many times were Gus was given the ball and did not have a hole to run through. And as we saw in the AFC title game, I hate even bringing it up, is that we didn’t utilize Gus. So I agree with James. What’s the frustration going to be like when we’ve got Saquon or Pollard or King Henry and they’re not utilized? We have the best scouting team in the NFL finding these undrafted free agents that are amazing. These Marquie running backs are too much money. We just lean on the draft.
I doubt that the price would be the same for Henry and Barclay because that makes the choice too easy. I believe Henry is the right player and will be the right price as well.
Whoever we get, he needs to be a 3 down back. One of our offensive weaknesses toward the end of the season and especially in the playoffs is that Justice Hill was being utilized as a 3 down back. As long as Saquon can stay healthy, he is a MUCH better option than Hill. I wouldn't hate that acquisition at all.
Henry - more financial flexibility and healthier. He was a less efficient runner in TEN because opposing defenses all they did was plan for him. In BAL, he will have a better Oline and so many other weapons as decoys to create him space. Justice/keaton is sufficient for off speed or pass catching for the few checkdowns. Saquon will want a long term payout as this will be his last big contract for an RB, no way he is only taking 10mAAV
Hell yea.. imagine having to account for lamar n Henry to together.. scary
Agreed, that Titans Oline was terrible
That’s all lies lmao. Barkley had one major injury and is a lot younger and more talented.
Saquon. Henry has age and wear, Saquon has wear and injury. Saquon has more upside and more to prove.
James, you took the conversation way left when you started arguing against bringing in over Saquon. Henry most of the time and is a TERROR against defenses. The dude is a monster and if we could get him and Evans on our squad, it’s over for the league.
The Ravens need to kick the tires on Josh Jacobs!!!
#GoRavens 🖤💜🏈💪🏽💯%
Only reason we didnt fire monken is continuity for LJ8. 😎
Get whoever best fits a Monken scheme...
Is the running back get less touches it's no point by getting a running back from free agent. I will draft a running back. In my lineup it will be Keaton Mitchell,Braelon Allen, Justice Hill, Auckric Estime,Ray Davis,
I agree I like Davis/Kentucky & I believe his name is Allen/Wisconsin, James thinks this is fantasy football and doesn't think about cap space
Josh Jacob’s please !!!
Wondering if Dallas gets Henry could we get Pollard on a cheaper aas but longer deal? Another name to keep an eye out for is Moss. He's cheaper and he torches is when we played the Colts
King Henry is the way to go. He’s 6’3 and the way he runs down the field is beyond amazing! He’s good for the cap space and he’s less injury prone. We need a running back who’s more healthier and fit.
The oc messed up the afc title game. They aren't gonna let him do that again.
Everytime fans bring up Derrick Henry I always say "but what if we could get Saquon?!" Lol. Glenn did a good job convincing me
Baltimore Ravens Top 5 blueprint reasons that will help the Ravens win the Superbowl.
1. Harbaugh during 2024-2025 seasons let Lamar cook all game . Yes his stats will benefit from that but thats not the reason why! When it’s time to have a shoot out , back and forth especially in the playoffs not just the Lamar but the whole team will be comfortable when that moment happens.
2. Harbaugh ,doesn’t matter how tempted you become because next year schedule will be difficult with regular season games. Don’t celebrate 🎉 like you won the superbowl like you did in the AFC divisional game this past season . That moment gave the team a subliminal false hope like we accomplished our goal and we came out flat the following week.
3.Lamar I get it as a fellow Christian we sometimes get confused as being humble for taking a backseat letting the situation pass us by. LJ8 and Ravens have to accept that y’all not the underdog anymore. I need you to play every game that you don’t care which team you playing you’re the best player and the Ravens best team on that field. It’s important you put that energy in the air and the team will follow you with that attitude. I can’t stand the (CHEFS) lol but I do give them props that they believe they’re the big dawgs no matter who they’re playing.
4. This for the Ravens fans! When opposing fans are hating on LJ with this bull crap about his stats . Y’all need to pushback right away and let them know that he don’t play in the 4th quarter or when we get to the goalline instead of padding his stats the Ravens gave it Gus. Example: In the Divisional round vs Houston the haters said LJ pass for only 152 . If you watch that game he only threw the ball 2 times in the 4th quarter and 1 was a TD. All Ravens fans know LJ could had throw easily for 275 in the 2nd half alone. The Ravens in the 2nd half did what they want. Now why that’s important is because when the most important game in LJ life / career we need him to play with a clear mind playing his game. That means when he see an open lane take it.
5. Injuries free
Derrick Henry WAS the Titans offense and that dynamic would change for him if he is in the backfield with Lamar.
Go young and cheap in regards to a few late round picks on RB position. Also, bring in undrafted talent. These older players cannot be trusted for loyalty and performance !!!
why is almost no one talking about josh jacobs i got him as rb 1 for the fa ravens and not even close younger productive croowded market may push his price down
Neither if Henry is gonna cost 10 mil. We don't feature running backs so getting a tier 1 isn't a need. Get a vet like moss or similar and draft a depth piece in rnds 4-6. Focus on O-line future and your running backs will benefit
Bring in Henry
Complete no brainor. King Henry please. 💯 saquon stays hurt , no thanks.
Saquon Barkley's injury history scares me a little bit to pay him that much money
I want to get saquan more but i think darek henery is a better fit
I really don’t want to spend money on Derrick Henry. I’d be okay with saquon or Jacob’s. I’d prefer to not spend money on RB when we have big holes on the OLine and you have WR talent like Mike Evan’s out there
I don't know guys. I think Henry would be great for the Ravens but the bigger need is better run blocking. The second half of 2023 The Ravens o line run blocking kind of sucked. At the beginning of every game they would try to get the run game going and if it wasn't working then they shied away from it.
its Barkley or bust?
Saquon numbers don’t do him justice because of the talent he’s had around him during the past several years
But if you look at his rookie season, he combined 2000 yards in 15 touchdowns, and that was due because his quarterback was Eli and he played with the real version of OBJ
Noway for Barkley, because he has bad injury history, and we have a lot of that already!!!!!!!!❤😂🎉
Henry easily, he stays healthy
Y sign a RB at all if talkin aboit giving them 8-11 carries a game? U give DH 11 carries a game he may only have 40 yds rushing. Hes not an explosive runner and he gete stuffed alot. So what yall are sayin make 0 sense. DH also lines up DEEP in the backfield in single back sets in order to pick up steam . We dont really run alot of under center RB 7-8 yards deep plays. Its not schematically what we do. Monken system is more sprea out so its not a fit honestly. Saquon iw a much better fit but injuriy history contract length is a sticking point. But hes a true 3 down back which Ravens need . It may come down to just resign Dalvin Cook. Draft a rookie RblB an have Hill as the 3rd RB until Keaton ia cleared to come back.
Hey boys am I crazy or does nobody like the Justice/ Dalvin backfield. I don't think spending that kind of money when I Running back is going to happen. We have lost 5 running backs for the season in the past 3 years. Spend that money on a receiver
why are u not considering Josh Jacobs hes a better fit than either one of those backs
Sorry James, you are completely wrong! Barkley has an injury prone history and his unavailability will be a distinct disadvantage, along with his pedestrian production.
They can't pay either of them right now Baltimore sits at 5.1M in cap space, they are most likely to tag Madubuike 20M to afford this they have to clear 16M in cap space, then through the next 2 months they will have to clear another 20M for the draft class, then they also have to pay 8.3M cap hit, so no ig name free agents are coming to Baltimore and they will draft a RB mid round to become the next RB1
I don't think they can afford the tag price. I think they find a way to sign Madubuike to a contract extension which would lower his first year cap hit. Then they have to do some restructuring to veteran contracts like Andrews Humphrey and possibly Lamar to free up more space
DEREK HENRY
Neither resign Gus and J.k.
Easy pass on Saquon due to injury concerns. And sorry but Gus and Henry are not anywhere near on the same level. The way the Ravens internal media is pumping Henry content, it's more likely that they're doing a bait and switch causing distraction.
Get young at the RB position. NO Henry ... NO Barkley ... NO outrageous $$$ cap hit.
I like a Derrick Henry signing for the right price. I truly want the Ravens to resign Madibuke and Arthur Maulet. Then FA signings should be Damien Lewis (G), Willie Gay (ILB), and Tyler Boyd (WR). Cut Ben Cleveland. Restructure Moses, Stanley, Mekari, Humphrey, and Marcus Williams.
Henry! He's not hungry for a Super Bowl ring he is starving for one just like Lamar. Barkley injured too much.
I want Saquan. Go with the younger guy
younger sure but made of glass
Barkley and it’s not close