Roberto Schaefer: Lighting Masterclass
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- 2-Hour Lighting Masterclass with cinematographer Roberto Schaefer, ASC, AIC.
He is known for his work on Monster's Ball, Finding Neverland, Quantum of Solace, The Paperboy, The Host, Geostorm, The Red Sea Diving Resort.
For educational purposes only. Non-commercial purposes.
So true what the host said.
One shoot and you’ll know more than a university course. I have a degree in electrical engineering/computer science. I came to work as a consultant for a production company. And through that I ran into the vfx supervisor. Over lunch I asked him questions. And having programmed, astronomy and medical image enhance algorithms, I was captivated that there are now pieces of software that could do all that without, programming. I came there every Friday. I automated their VFX pipeline and they taught me compositing. Suddenly I’m a VFX guy. One day I got a call from this guy to help him on Dunkirk with a difficult job. And later on Masters of the Sky. Combining my VFX knowledge with my programming knowledge. No school could ever learn you that in 4 years.
And whilst being on sets, I learned cinematography just be watching asking questions. Buying my own gear. And 20 years ago I could barely shoot with a Nikon point and shoot.
Being on the job is the place to learn. All the greats did.
Hey, is there any way I can find your email? I would like to get in contact with you to ask a few questions if that's okay!
Very inspiring story. I also belive learning on the job.
@@phillipfrem4797 hi Phillip Go to www.Subliminal-artist.com and you’ll find an email there contact me through that. Happy to help.
@@Extraedit there’s really no substitute in my opinion. Schools and courses sessions are good for acquiring the basic knowledge that you need, but you can also get that from books. They don’t teach you to think and troubleshoot. That’s what on the job teaches you. You see people solving problems you collect those ideas and your own to the mix.
Schools give you basic knowledge.
Being onset gives you priceless experience.
Why?
Good thing this isn't an Audio Recording Masterclass
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bruh. thinking the same thing
LOL
I'm 12 minutes in and my brain keeps coming back to this comment. This often happens in a theatre environment. everything is last minute - flap flap flap and then it gets balls'd up :/
This teach us how important the sound is in a production. Please hire a great audio recordist on set!
How did I stumble upon this... THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
I was about to ask the same thing.
Thank you - it seems like the only route most people take is to complain
Thank you so much for making this channel and gathering all these videos. I'm not a cinematographer but these videos are still extremely fascinating and you learn so much.
this is more helpful than my crappy ass film school. thanks so much!
Your teachers will not appreciate that comment, I'm almost sure they do their best with what they have! Even though I respect your opinion, and I do believe that students should be somewhat irreverent with authority, but always respectful and appreciative... Also, perhaps there is no need to be comparing. In live, it isn't always "either or..." Sometimes we learn different things from different places. Just saying, thank you for listening.
drop out use the tuition on a short.
Do not use your tuition on a short. Shorts don't sell and won't make an ROI. Make a feature, music video, or spec commercial. Better yet, just sit on that money and start PAing local productions until you know exactly how best to spend that money to further your career
What film school are you going to?
One of the best instructional videos I have ever seen! Kudos!
This has really made me rethink things. The detail, care and effort that goes into this is mind blowing (to a novice anyway). Even the problem solving is something I never knew about. I'm only here because I've recently realized I need to learn about lighting, and this is way over my head, but it's fascinating all the same.
Love this. These live events would be much better online with a switcher. Wish we could see through the camera and maybe even see what's on the monitor.
As one of the free content providers in this case I 'm thankful that the majority of comments here recognise just what we set up to happen and the freedom with which Robert Schaefer made available his experience (which is contained in the first statement of intent). In a sense the rest of what happens (apart from the information delivered) is about osmosis - how he delivers what her wants' and how he gets to his goal and the 200 person audience soaking that up. During this whole week-long shoot no one was paid - from Oscar winners to students - and the crew is made primarily of students (the sparks were paid and freely gave advice to students about how to be on set and how to enable the DP to achieve what they want and need). As the week went on, the student crew and student directors got better at their jobs - naturally, because doing under tutelage illustrates theory every time.
This is really informative! Makes me want to make a movie right now!
One of the finest & Best DOP workshops I ever seen...👍💐
brilliant! love the way he explained things.
but i think they need to do a masterclass on how to get the mic working properly.
was lookin for this comment
Excellent Masterclass presentation. I will apply the knowledge with minimum budget gear.
Wow! What a difference it makes to start moving the camera when he says "...and ..." Instead of moving the camera at exactly "Action", This is the difference between a good shot to edit and a nice shot but unusable....What a treat.
@x12 417 I guess anything you already knew about is redundant.
Excellent Video
Thank you for sharing this.
I've never seen so many expert cinematographers struggle to explain a look up table.
Hahahaha!!!
It wasn’t too bad.
"Rec.709 you know... is just... it gives you a look... a kind of a normal look... look i'm out of coke and this guys mic keeps feeding back and i'm not getting paid at all right now....now back to you Rob"
I like the content but the problem with a lot of this masterclass is the recording. The folks recording them do not know how to record or film in a coordinated manner. They keep on filming the presenter and not what the presenter is talking about or trying to show. For example, when Roberto was instructing the gaffer (or was it the grip) to adjust the flag, the person filming it kept on recording Roberto talking on his mic and not the flag that needs to be corrected. The latter is more important to see which we hear Roberto in the background talking or explaining what he wants done.
that might be the director of cameraman
YEs the director of the cameracrew (if there is one) is missing the point here.
To the defense of whoever were behind the cams, there are never enough cameras to cover enough angles, and this is a multi-camera shooting, so the director either have to call for a camera to move or to call the angle, if it's done live with a switcher.
You aren't wrong, but the sheer quality of how simply he is able to really, include a substantial amount of insight into the lighting, framing, reacting directly to the lighting motivation, etc- it totally feels like classic 80s/90s bts footage that was so juicy and rare to come across before DVD began including that stuff with every single move. Before DVD, finding ANY content like this was pretty special to see. But yea, the first 15 minutes of horrid audio issues was almost a dealbreaker for me.... haha
tbh why show a guy adjusting a flag
this is a gem
I just started doing videos on youtube , and im trying to slowly move to film, this was gold thank you
Thank you for this. Amazing.
Thanks Thanks thanks and 1000 times Thanks!
Cinematography sports. Love it. Big thanks.
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not hearing the camera side conversation with the dp and team is killing my soul... why?
Excellent!
Best explained Cinematography Class. hi guys we are #LahoreFilmSchool a film school based in Lahore.
thanks you for the Masterclass
Thank you sooooo much for sharing these. Bit hard to join these living in Port Elizabeth, South Africa.
I love this, very educative. Thanks guys...
Educative...
That camera rig is amazing
Excellent masterclass, full of so much valuable information! @01:41:00 Why not utilize the the built in ND?
Incredible content, thank you very much
Would of liked to see some lavender mixed with CTB as ambient fill for sunrise. Pure black mixed with “the sun” just doesn’t work. Good workshop otherwise.
15:29 I guess GOT learned this lesson the hard way after "The Long Night"
Ya know what's funny..."DP"s always teach me stuff I love it..I mean they put the gloss on the painting and their always on their game...I love it...I tell'em what I want and they can nail it...like to the floor...I love it...such beautiful photo play..
Literally thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of film gear. Top tier cinematographer. Filmed in 720p.
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
lmao exported or streamed at 720 at least, wild to see Alexa footage looking so good even below 1080
Anyone still watch this video?
Fantastic stuff we have here!!
Someone teach these guys about mics
Easy to blame the sound engineer. Since they obviously didn’t have spare lapel mics it’s probably the AV production companies fault for not having them or the event organiser for not wanting to pay for them. The sound engineers probably doing their best.
that was great, thanks for sharing.
STARTS AT 2:30
Great one! Thank you
What a gem of a Masterclass. Spectacular content. Thanks so much for showing.
I'm watching that mic getting passed thinking of our current covid issue. O.o Either/or, awesome video with tons of insight. Much respect to the industry and the amount of minds and hands involved.
was thinking the same
Posted in May too. hmmmm..
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great masterclass, just wish there was more concentration on what was happening around the camera, or the screens instead of the Actors or speakers (always)
cool video
Amazing training but it was shot so dark for UA-cam!
0:39 Pretty sure Finding Leatherland is on the other "youtube. Jokes aside, thank you for this brilliant masterclass!
Some really interesting insights. I wonder why he doesn't use a fill light from the direction of the audience to light up the actors a bit more sharply. Besides this would help to soften the harsh shadows if fitted with dimmers and their intensity raised as the sun rises. The green screen at back acts as bounce fill but will lead to a green colour cast on the actors. This could lead a problem in post, drawing a clean matte around the actors. Of course the famous Hollywood three point lighting is considered old fashioned. I still think a very low intensity soft top light would have been useful to separate the actors from tge backgrounds
it would make shadow less harsh....just brighter
Am I the only person who can't unsee the old guy in the back picking lunch out his teeth and then staring it down on his finger?
that was really disgusting. my god :D
Pre- Covid? Lol great class!
Hahahaha
which specific colors do not work or avoid with the green screen
2019: excuse my cold. Let's start.
2020: evacuate the building!!!! everybody get quarantined and tested!
which app he was mentioning in the beginning for framing with different cameras and lenses..?
thanks.
artemis
Yes, Hello!
so glad I,m up at 430 am
literally me
Dude I read this literally at 4:30
2:30 - Hope that wasn't the rona.
Both actors sitting at the same time drove me mad at each take.
what the app he using measuring the light ?
Oh shit it’s the guy that did Quantum of Solace! I hated that movie! 😂
nice, but if you have such actors on set, you will need 20 hours for this scene :D
Of course the content is worth watching but what I just noted are simple things that could have been corrected.
Hello, I am in France and I can't find any of these 2 apps.
Does someone can give me the links of these?
what is the software he is talking about? not the light meter the other one...any one can say the name of the app?
Artemis Viewfinder Pro. You can buy that for around 30$ for Android or Apple.
What was the one for the light meter?
why the audience are old?
Biggest lesson- prepare better.
No boom operators here...bad audio :(
Is he using his iPad as a lightmeter?
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Was the app called centimeter 3 he uses with the Luxi ball?
piankhi iknaton the app he uses with Luxi ball is the “Cine Meter II”.
I cant make an expert assessment of the quality of the knowledge offered by this video...but the audio engineer either didn't have the appropriate equipment (horrible EQing for the PA) or he was not experienced enough to be on this gig.....just my opinion. hard to absorb PRO material when nagging little factors like that distract so much. live sound and recording sound are pretty different
Where and when was this shot?
CINEFEST. In 2015 and 2016 the festival took place at the Arnolfini Centre for Contemporary Arts.
Audio is not important....
if they are, why is it so far down in the credits. and why isn't it often part of planning. this "masterclass" is an example how audio is an after thought
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Take your hat off bro
This is great video but slow
The process is slow. Then you add explanation to every step of it...informative, but plodding
that green screen light was bothering me from the begining xD
What event is this from?
CINEFEST. In 2015 and 2016 the festival took place at the Arnolfini Centre for Contemporary Arts
@@cinematographersoncinemato1199 thank you
what's that guy doing at 13:35 and then 13:47 with that wheel?
that wheel moves the focus of the lens in the camera, its called folow focus.
@@cR4Sh6 thank you!
appreciate the video. but this dude is so slow from the cold medicine if you put the speed at 1.5 x he sounds normal lol
😂 most helpful comment I’ve read all day
You're a god sir.
"this dude" lmao
Thanks, makes it much better!
Where was this taught?
CINEFEST. In 2015 and 2016 the festival took place at the Arnolfini Centre for Contemporary Arts.
Very helpful :D ... but the live production director (or editor) needs a masterclass in live production though. Too many useless and ill-composed tight shots. Stay on the wide so that we can see *what the crew is actually doing*. Cut to the tight when you have something interesting or informative to show.
@2:30 Bless You
Great information in between the half dozen people standing around the set waiting to do their one job. So much time and money wasted.
This could have been a good video if edited down to 6 minutes.
So many crew and expensive kit - but can't fix a head mic? Always carry spares :)
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Great stuff but too much talking, going on and on and on.
Good idea this masterclass but the sound is HORRIBLE!
Rude to wear a hat knowing you are lit from above so your in half-face shadow. People want to see the eyes for non-verbal communication. ... UA-cam having deleted my first two comments, I write again.
Great stuff about lighting a scene, but what a terrible sound! With a mic like that, get your sh.. together!
Yes, disgraceful. As a sound person, I can't stand listening to this, truthfully.
I don't understand how that many professionals can produce such poor audio
What amazes me is how incredibly boring the whole procedure is.
Great masterclass, incredibly poorly filmed... which is not ok as you cannot see what the crew is doing with grip and lights which is the whole point of a masterclass. If you are learning you have to see exactly how things are done, words don't work on their own. Crew assisting the DOP also looks like they don't really know what they are doing...
dam, the cinematographer does a lot.. then director comes in and yells action?
A director's job is to make all the crew do their best in a common vision
You could say the same about the cinematographer since he is the “director of photography” he just tells the team what he wants. Also if the director came in and yelled action everyone would stand around not knowing what to do because they haven’t gone through it with the director.
The director interprets the script and comes up with the shots that are gonna be done. Are we gonna start outside and move in through the window or are we gonna cut inside, does this actor move from this position to this position. The director has to communicate with the actors to get the performance they want. They will communicate with the sound team. Maybe there’s a way we can tell part of the through sound instead visually, They need to communicate to the set design team, the costume team aswell. They’ll have to follow the film into the edit and discuss approaches with the editor and review the film and take some editorial control.” The director directs dude. They have a lot of of help but they need because they can’t hold a boom pole and a camera and rig everything at the same time. If u think the cinematographer does a lot, it shows more how much more there is to do… the lines between the jobs can become pretty blurry however.
Two things... why is the standard on sets to treat everyone like idiots? Also the ASC hat. Ironic how the industry has shifted and young people are making more on UA-cam than putting in their time on a set being treated like second-class citizens.
I don't really get it. Roberto to me was an absolute class act through and through, and I was treated half as good as he did treat his people here, I'd be quite happy.
Also, why caring about his hat? He's a member of the ASC, and even if he wasn't, for what I care... what's wrong with the ASC?! I mean look I'm one of those youngsters and to be quite frank, I don't know what you're talking about. And trust me : I'm gonna say it if I'm getting treated like an idiot. This man proceeded to ask if anyone else had an opinion...! Having authority isn't treating people like idiots. When he says things like "no we can see it it's a practical", someone asked a genuine question, and he answered it genuinely.
It might sounds to you like he think that this guy is an idiot but there are so many little things on the set that you never have enough people asking idiotic sounding questions; if someone said "are you certain the camera is set for 24 fps as opposed to 25 fps" then it could have saved the shot that Roberto talked about.
He was very polite and his authority was firm but gentle, he know what he wants and the opposite of that is a nightmare. On a film set or running a restaurant kitchen or anything, don't be rude, but don't indulge in asking people "could you do this please" either. Everyone is treated equally but it's still a hierarchical system. Besides why wouldn't I make a good living working union sets AND do my own thing on UA-cam? Sounds like a no-brainer to me. I'd much rather get roughed up on set by a veteran than getting treated with fake kindness by some random corporate client who couldn't care less about you. Being a freelancer is being treated like an idiot. Getting whipped into shape as a newcomer on set isn't being treated like an idiot. Some douchebags exist but then so are new PAs who look at their cellphones more than the set...!
That was so basic.. that's so easy honestly...
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I’m curious. Is this chap being a director of photography or a cinematographer? I’m surprised he is not flagging what he would or wouldn’t normally do we’re there an actual director or cinematographer on set, as he seems to be stepping on many toes here - including the wardrobe department “how about no hat”. Allllsssooo the egos. Dealing with egos on sets is the toughest thing. It’s very hard for people to get their head around the fact that I’m always right and they should shhhhh.
Sounds like you have a bit of an ego problem yourself
Cinematographer and Director of Photography are the same thing. Interchangeable terms for the same job. He's not stepping on toes. The cinematographer has a big say in wardrobe, set design, etc. because it all goes with the look of the film.
Those two titles are interchangeable. Since this is a cinematography workshop he's kind of acting as both director and cinematographer in a sense, so not stepping on toes. The DP will always have a say as to certain parts of the frame, including wardrobe, possibly the hat was cutting the light on the face in a way he didn't like. As the director's right hand man in terms of visual integrity of the film, he has a say about certain things in other departments including Production Design and wardrobe. As far as ego goes, I've found that ego surfaces when people don't trust others on set to do their jobs. Good filmmaking requires this trust, trusting in your team to try their best. Remember, filmmaking is just a bunch of people getting together and trying their best to complete a COMMON goal. If your only goal is making some badass visuals or a great film, then maybe you aren't focusing on the right things. Seems like you aren't open enough in your mindset to make art yet.
You sound like a little smart ass 😂
As has been stated the DOP and the Cinematographer are the same title. You are correct that in most cases the DOP would not be making wardrobe choices, but since this is his demo he gets to make the choices. That being said, the Director and DOP as well as Art Department and wardrobe should all be on the same page in order to get the best out of the shot. And the DOP and Director should have a close working relationship or the project is going to go off the rails fast. If a hat is not needed and would add to the work the DOP needs to do to get an decent eye light, then maybe a hat is not needed. But, if the hat has been established, a la Indiana Jones, then the DOP would have to work around it. Film making is a collaborative effort and in the end its about the shot telling the best story, and sometimes that has to happen within the confines of schedule, kit, location, etc etc. Egos are indeed an issue on some sets and it is a good observation, a huge part of working in this industry is knowing your place and feeling the room on each and every job. The more chameleon you are, especially as lower crew, the more likely you'll work more.