Thanks for your 'honesty'. I have been tempted to fit a Bigsby but now having watched and listened to you, I'll give it a miss. While you said that you were enjoying it, you really didn't seemed to be 'over-the-moon' about it. Again, thank you for your honesty. Cheers!
Hello Ramon, The reason that strings are 'harder' to bend, after fitting a Bigsby, has very little to do with the different angle at their fixing point but more to do with the greater string-length created. There's more elasticity in the strings when bending, which needs to be 'taken up' before the bend actually starts to produce results. Also, because of their extra length, they will be running at a lower tension. Stay safe, strong and sane.
Thank you for this video. I added a Bigsby to my Squier Telecaster, and I love it. The Tele is an old-school guitar (some may say "the origin of the species"), and the Tele sure gives it that old-school "surf rock" sound I was striving for. I've had that same issue of the strings not going back into tune, so I will see about getting a better bridge. Cheers from "Across the Pond"!
Thanks man that was really helpful and your scales sound wicked, can’t believe this has 40 likes. Talking about tightness vs chilling out harsh tone, really nice to consider.
My theory is that, while the scale length is the same (nut to bridge saddles), you have a lot more string behind the saddles that will get stretched on a bend, so you'll have to push the string more, plus you might be pulling against the spring in the Bigsby, which may give a little too (forcing you to bend even more). Can you do a full step and a half bend easily (or at all)?
What you need to worry about is making a full roller Bigsby full rolling Bridge make sure they're roller bearings are in all the stream contacting areas
Thanks for the video. I love my tele and have been looking for a way to add some subtle vibrato via a tremolo (without routing...lol). I take it that it stays in tune relatively well providing you're not dive bombing the bar?
Sounds 'Gretschafied' Really great tone. Sell me that guitar when u get sick of it! The pups sound awesome but a 50s dyna is very expensive. Have u tried any modern dynas or compared them?
Can you get away with dipping into the note a la Jeff Beck with a B5? I can't imagine needing to be more than a tone from target pitch. Thanks- and great content!
It's not as sensitive as a strat wammy so I would say its more of a shimmer or wobble or you can do the neil young thing - but also you can get some nice shimmer effects for soundscape stuff but I dont think you will be able to do the jeff beck technique with it - thats my opinion - thanks for watching Nigel
Thanks for the video, really interesting and great playing. I really love the sound of your guitar, what Tele model is it ? What mics are installed ? Thanks !
Graham - thats a great point you made - in hindsight I should have done that, however I will replace the bigsby (I removed it) and the guitar didnt work without it.
It's harder to bend strings with a Bigsby or trapeze tailpiece guitar than a strung-through Tele simply because there's more string to stretch. FWIW, I just made a B16 Thinline. It turned out really well but I would not recommend the gizmo. Had to mount another roller to get a decent angle off the bridge and other challenges. Looks immensely cool though and is fun to play.
@@lukaskuipers7791 It was a lot of time and effort on my part to do things (including adding a roller) the factory should have done. The shim should come with the kit. I shouldn't have to source it independently for almost $30. Bridge included is old-fashioned wound G compensated. On and on.
@@richsackett3423 ah okay. Well the body I have right now was for a different project but was faulty, and the bigsby b16 would pretty much be the only usable trem bridge for it because of the way it mounts. So I designed the idea around the b16 and I already accounted for all of of that gizmo. A question though; how's the tuning stability on it? And what roller bridge do you use?
@@lukaskuipers7791 I hurried and threw up some pictures of the one I made (1st guitar build!). There's no write-up yet but these may help. The roller is a B5 replacement roller with bearings instead of bushings. The eyes and nylon bushings are from the hardware store. Tuning stability is great and limited by the rest precision of the vibrato shaft. It still has the stock plastic nut but will have it replaced with a roller nut. There's a tiny amount of friction there but not bad when lubed. www.quora.com/q/masteringguitargear/What-have-you-been-doing-with-gear-during-lockdown-Have-you-restored-gear-got-out-gear-you-havent-used-for-a-while-r-6
@@richsackett3423 looks cool man! Did you use it at all when you had the old bridge on? I actually use a wound g quite a lot (jazz guy) and having one is not a deal breaker for me, but I fear those old fashioned rocking bridges wouldn't handle bending so well. That's why I was considering using a roller bridge as well. Anyway thanks man!
Love that guitar! I am actually in the process of making a replica/copy of it! Probably not gonna use exactly the same pickups, but when i had my coodercaster built i ordered from Marc at Mojo - i love them! Probably gonna buy the pickups for this guitar from Mojo aswell! :)
Bigsby on Telecaster is like horse saddle on a donkey - very bad. I'd say, ugly. If you have to have a tremolo on a Telecaster (which is not really right anyway), than perhaps try excellent Duesenberg small tremolo made for Les Paul and similar guitars. Duesenberg tremolos are excellent, from the ¨old school¨ types, ofcourse.
Thanks for your 'honesty'. I have been tempted to fit a Bigsby but now having watched and listened to you, I'll give it a miss. While you said that you were enjoying it, you really didn't seemed to be 'over-the-moon' about it. Again, thank you for your honesty. Cheers!
Pleasure thanks for watching
Hello Ramon, The reason that strings are 'harder' to bend, after fitting a Bigsby, has very little to do with the different angle at their fixing point but more to do with the greater string-length created. There's more elasticity in the strings when bending, which needs to be 'taken up' before the bend actually starts to produce results. Also, because of their extra length, they will be running at a lower tension. Stay safe, strong and sane.
Thanks Rod this makes perfect sense thanks 🙏
Excellent playing! Thanks for covering the subject so well, too.
Pleasure Jimbo
That pickup combo is great!
Great build! It reminds me of Bill Frissell's Black brand tele. His has a Gibson scale and two DeArmonds. Thanks.
Cheers for this. With all of your considerations in mind I think I'll still go for one. I just love that tone.
Thanks for watching
Thank you for this video.
I added a Bigsby to my Squier Telecaster, and I love it. The Tele is an old-school guitar (some may say "the origin of the species"), and the Tele sure gives it that old-school "surf rock" sound I was striving for.
I've had that same issue of the strings not going back into tune, so I will see about getting a better bridge.
Cheers from "Across the Pond"!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this rather niche topic! 👍
(Btw, it'd be cool if you could list your featured gear in the description.)
Thanks man that was really helpful and your scales sound wicked, can’t believe this has 40 likes. Talking about tightness vs chilling out harsh tone, really nice to consider.
Pleasure Jason - thanks so much for checking out the video
That guitar sounds fantastic.
Thanks Gary
My theory is that, while the scale length is the same (nut to bridge saddles), you have a lot more string behind the saddles that will get stretched on a bend, so you'll have to push the string more, plus you might be pulling against the spring in the Bigsby, which may give a little too (forcing you to bend even more). Can you do a full step and a half bend easily (or at all)?
Your theory is correct.
"i´m left with some holes, but u know, thats life" ;)
SKINNYJEANSFFM deep af really
I know exactly what you mean!
That is a freaking cool tele!!
What you need to worry about is making a full roller Bigsby full rolling Bridge make sure they're roller bearings are in all the stream contacting areas
Funny, I find bends to be more difficult on a string through hardtail bridge
Thank you for this!!! I’m gonna send it!!! And get the kit where I don’t have to drill holes for my candy apple red thin line deluxe Telly!!!
Fantastic keep in touch
Thanks for the video. I love my tele and have been looking for a way to add some subtle vibrato via a tremolo (without routing...lol). I take it that it stays in tune relatively well providing you're not dive bombing the bar?
Great guitar playing. Thanks for the video, i just got a new telecaster and was thinking about it.
Thanks I would recommend it... Check out the mastery bridges they are amazing
Informative video Ramon thanks!
That tone is Glorious
Thanks so much 🙏
gracias, muy ilustrativo y me convence de armar mi segunda tele con tremolo, pero con puente original, como lo lograré? ya me diste una gran idea.
Sounds 'Gretschafied' Really great tone. Sell me that guitar when u get sick of it! The pups sound awesome but a 50s dyna is very expensive. Have u tried any modern dynas or compared them?
Thanks Robin, I plan to a new pine tele with 2 dearmond reissues.. Watch this space.
Might be more difficult to bend , but It sounds killer!
Thanks Juaquin
Can you get away with dipping into the note a la Jeff Beck with a B5? I can't imagine needing to be more than a tone from target pitch. Thanks- and great content!
It's not as sensitive as a strat wammy so I would say its more of a shimmer or wobble or you can do the neil young thing - but also you can get some nice shimmer effects for soundscape stuff but I dont think you will be able to do the jeff beck technique with it - thats my opinion - thanks for watching Nigel
@@TheGuitarShow Brill, thanks so much for answering. In all fairness, I love that shimmer / subtle detune nonetheless!
@@nigelnunes pleasure - imo you need a bigsby equipped guitar!
Thanks for the video, really interesting and great playing. I really love the sound of your guitar, what Tele model is it ? What mics are installed ? Thanks !
If your thinking of removing it in the future why did you not use a Vibromate with no drill holes ?
Graham - thats a great point you made - in hindsight I should have done that, however I will replace the bigsby (I removed it) and the guitar didnt work without it.
It's harder to bend strings with a Bigsby or trapeze tailpiece guitar than a strung-through Tele simply because there's more string to stretch. FWIW, I just made a B16 Thinline. It turned out really well but I would not recommend the gizmo. Had to mount another roller to get a decent angle off the bridge and other challenges. Looks immensely cool though and is fun to play.
What gizmo don't you recommend? Im about to build a b16 thinline myself
@@lukaskuipers7791 It was a lot of time and effort on my part to do things (including adding a roller) the factory should have done. The shim should come with the kit. I shouldn't have to source it independently for almost $30. Bridge included is old-fashioned wound G compensated. On and on.
@@richsackett3423 ah okay. Well the body I have right now was for a different project but was faulty, and the bigsby b16 would pretty much be the only usable trem bridge for it because of the way it mounts. So I designed the idea around the b16 and I already accounted for all of of that gizmo. A question though; how's the tuning stability on it? And what roller bridge do you use?
@@lukaskuipers7791 I hurried and threw up some pictures of the one I made (1st guitar build!). There's no write-up yet but these may help. The roller is a B5 replacement roller with bearings instead of bushings. The eyes and nylon bushings are from the hardware store. Tuning stability is great and limited by the rest precision of the vibrato shaft. It still has the stock plastic nut but will have it replaced with a roller nut. There's a tiny amount of friction there but not bad when lubed.
www.quora.com/q/masteringguitargear/What-have-you-been-doing-with-gear-during-lockdown-Have-you-restored-gear-got-out-gear-you-havent-used-for-a-while-r-6
@@richsackett3423 looks cool man! Did you use it at all when you had the old bridge on? I actually use a wound g quite a lot (jazz guy) and having one is not a deal breaker for me, but I fear those old fashioned rocking bridges wouldn't handle bending so well. That's why I was considering using a roller bridge as well. Anyway thanks man!
Thank you 🙏
Pleasure Wayne
Looks and sounds amazing, what pickups do you have on that?
Thanks David it's a 50s Dearmond Dynasonic and a 60s guyatone SG pickup
Love that guitar! I am actually in the process of making a replica/copy of it! Probably not gonna use exactly the same pickups, but when i had my coodercaster built i ordered from Marc at Mojo - i love them! Probably gonna buy the pickups for this guitar from Mojo aswell! :)
So cool! I'm honoured! That's great news - mention me to Marc please and please keep me updated with your guitar build thanks Marius!
I sure will :):)
Hi what is your fx chain there?
Does the Bigsby make it harder to keep the guitar in tune?
Barely. If well set-up, it's not too bad. That's part of the experience. Well worth it, though.
Exactly as SoulMarc says
Sounds great and the Bigsby looks great too.
many thanks indeed I really like how it turned out
🤷♂️I’ve never found a Bigsby
wide enough for a Tele’ 😢
Anyone have a link to this bridge?
Did you have to shim?
I like it
tnx! i was considering a bigsby but your video convinced me not to do it 🙂
Pleasure Paul!
I just watched a guy noodle on a tele with a bigsby. Respnse? Not sure but it was a little informative.
Thanks brother 🙏🙏🙏
No get a B bender installed
I've been thinking about that
Bigsby’s on telecasters are bad luck.
Don't say that lol
Bigsby on Telecaster is like horse saddle on a donkey - very bad. I'd say, ugly. If you have to have a tremolo on a Telecaster (which is not really right anyway), than perhaps try excellent Duesenberg small tremolo made for Les Paul and similar guitars. Duesenberg tremolos are excellent, from the ¨old school¨ types, ofcourse.
That's just, like, your opinion man.