You are 100% right and thank you for pointing that out in such a polite way, I wish more people would respond like you, after we are not all perfect. I will make a notation on the video to point out the over sight.
Thank you. I just bought this gun used today for $465.00 and it didn't come with the box or instructions, so I would have never figured out how to do this. Thanks a bunch!
#2 jamming on first round, start with the magazine locked back and then put in your loaded magazine, release the slide with a quick snap, DO NOT baby the pistol, the slide should slam forward as hard and fast as it is able. Never let the slide slam forward when a pistol is empty. Hope that helps
You are SO right about not babying this gun. And definitely don’t ride the slide forward. Letting the slide fly forward on its own is what resolved my ‘first round not loading and magazine dropping out on second round’ issues. The gun needs to use all its energy so I load up by locking the slide back on an empty mag, removing empty mag, installing a new mag (with only 6 rounds), then letting the slide fly. No more issues after I started doing this.
I see that you do what I figured out for reassembly--keep sideways pressure on the trigger guard so it doesn't snap up. Had I watched your video first, I'd have saved myself a lot of frustration. 😖
The PPK, (not the S version) is my EDC. I reload for it & after over 1K rounds still enjoy the quality of the design. Yes, a little heavy for EDC but that weight helps in follow up shots at the range. Just a quality gun, mine is the S&W 2010 version with one piece feed ramp that is highly polished.
@@Mel-ry1rx mine is newer and it only stays up if pushed to one side (in my case, the left). I have no problem keeping it in place during breakdown but reassembly was a frustrating PITA because the guard kept snapping back into place. However, I discovered that just keeping sideways pressure (it doesn't take much) on it with my right index finger until the slide is placed works like a charm.
Great question, Will do a video on gun jamming, & New gun break in. problem #1 jamming when shooting, Fiocchi is a little inconsistent, but for most it works and is inexpensive. The PPK's notorious for being finicky, Buy 250 rounds, Winchester White Box and break-in all over again. That should repair the problem. Remember not all ammo will shoot well in every pistol, you must try different ammo to find what it likes. see next post for slide problem
Alan, Thank you for your demo and thank you for being so positive about this gun. I bought this model new at my local gun shop because it felt very good in my hand.(I was told that's how you should choose a gun) However now I'm finding so many negative reviews with gun owners out there about the PPK/S (repeated jamming issues) that I've not even taken it out of the box. This is my very first gun and I'd really like to get confident enough to proceed with handgun lessons with a local instructor. I know absolutely nothing about guns and really want to learn and develop self confidence with a firearm. Your video was very encouraging and I'm thinking that perhaps I didn't make a mistake in choosing this gun after all. Can you or anyone else add any comments that might spur me on? Thanks.
The PP, PPK, & PPK/S are all good pistols. Yes they are picky about the ammo you put in them but that is something you have to deal with if you want a supper accurate pistol for it's size. A good gun smith can polish the ramp a little and that will help a lot if you have a jamming problem. What I would sagest is try a few ammo brands and see what your gun likes. Start with Winchester White Box, This is the bench mark ammo most gun company's use to test their firearms. Also clean your gun before you shoot it for the first time and only shoot full metal jacket ammo for the first 300 to 500 rounds to break in the gun. do not fear your PPK, if it were not a good pistol it would not have been around for as long as it has been.
The PPK is an excellent choice. Familiarity with any firearm is essential. Practice, practice until it is second nature. Under stressful conditions there is no time for confusion.
You may have already had this answered. I own two PPKs hand guns. I have owned them for years and even took my CCW class and qualified with one of them a number of years ago. They are excellent weapons. Choice of ammunition is a factor, as has been stated, with many semi automatic hand guns. Guns "like" different brands. Winchester or Remington are good range cartridges and I like Horniday Critical Defense to have in my gun when carrying. I have never had an issue with any of them. I think you will be pleased and as already stated practice is the key. Going to the range once a year is not adequate. I go at the minimum every month and many time more than that. I love to shoot and I hope you do as well.
One question. There seems to be a difference of opinion as to whether the tight end of the spring goes to the rear or the front of the barrel. I had had some stove piping that seemed to go away when I installed the spring with the smaller tight end to the rear against the barrel support. The looser/larger end is freer with less resistance to slide on the barrel.
the tight end in on the barrel, this helps with stability and you near the wider side up front so the spring does not work its was out of the around of the barrel.
Alans Firearms First, Thankyou for mentioning that the spring has a right way and a wrong way. With all the vids I've been watching as I try to get my PPK/S to work, you are the first to say that there is a right and a wrong way for the spring to be mounted. In your vid you seem to be putting the spring on loose end first but in your difficult to understand, full-of-typos explanation above, you seem to be saying the opposite. So, is it loose end first as in the vid, or tight end first as you say above? Thank you.
clockxyz1 Tight first, otherwise you'll have a difficult if not impossible time putting the pistol back together. Also, if you DO manage to get it together with loose end on first, your pistol will not cycle properly or at all. If you should disassemble a PPK like this one and the spring just drops off, check that there is a tight end. If so it was put on wrong.
Thanks for the nice video. Just want ask if the direction of the spring is correct in your video. I’ve seen in other videos that the narrow end is towards the back of the gun. This is the ways it’s on my FEG PMK-380 which is similar to the Walther. Peace.
nice video - what ammo do you suggest? I just bought mine and put 150 rounds of Fiocchi in it, and it jammed a fair amount. Of course, I understand a fair amount of that was probably me, but frequently, it jammed after just inserting the magazine and racking the slide. I don't believe it was a matter of how I was racking the slide.
I cannot pull my slide back outta nowhere ... no ammo is stuck ... but there is extreme TENSION there ... i can't nor can my buddies pull it back ... happened after a few weak fires ... is there a part i should be looking at specifically ? .. seems likeit's gotta be a spring problem, but maybe i'm 100% wrong ...
I just fixed a problem like this. Now if you can only pull it back a little and then it stops! then there is a small part in the gun that broke off and is stuck in the action. YOU NEED A GUN SMITH. If it comes back all the way but it is just very hard, then you may have the spring on backwards. field strip the ppk and look at the spring the open end should be towards the front of the gun and the end that is turned back on it self should go on the barrel first. Hope this helps. Let us know the outcome. Thanks
An old video that keeps on giving? Any updates on the much said spring comments? I know of the spring to not just slide over the barrel, but to insert at least one spring coil where the spring meets the frame. As of one end appearing "open" or even look different ... nope, not on the PKK I'm aware of. The only difference seen on the spring end to end is one end (the end the meets the gun's frame once spring in fully installed) shows flat spot wear on last coil that slides slightly into the frame.
Hi Alan. Would you have any specs when it comes to Scheduled spring(s) replacement. Last time at the range I had an abundance of failures to fire based upon lights strikes - as on the 2nd or 3rd strike the .380 acp would finally go off - BUT not all of them. Some after multiple strikes would not fire at all I tested a different brand and results were exactly the same. I'd really appreciate any advice and information you would have regarding this. Sincerely, JAMES.
Very interesting, thank you (btw Cubby Broccoli insisted Bond switch to a Walther PPK as he felt a Beretta was a 'lady's gun'! Fleming followed suit in subsequent books following the film's lead. There's a line of dialogue in Dr. No that refers to Bond's Beretta jamming on previous assignment).
Actually it was arms expert Geoffrey Boothryd that recommended to Ian Fleming to replace the Beretta with the Walther. In Dr. No, as a tribute to Boothryd, the character that gave Bond his Walther was named Major Boothryd.
They are not on the list, however, I just purchased a West German (1980) Walther PPK/S from a gun broker. You can purchase them, they just have to be from a private party sale or broker where the gun was originally acquired in California before the list of approved firearms was created or when it was on the list. Firearms go on and off the list in CA all the time, ridiculous law!
thank you for the comment but I do not think that can happen, the frame on a walther ppk is way too heavy to be dented by the finger guard. But if you meant scratched then that could happen if you are not carful of put something under the trigger guard to prevent that from happing like a piece of leather or even a cleaning patch.
You are 100% right and thank you for pointing that out in such a polite way, I wish more people would respond like you, after we are not all perfect. I will make a notation on the video to point out the over sight.
Very smooth handling and easy instruction to follow great job
Thank you. I just bought this gun used today for $465.00 and it didn't come with the box or instructions, so I would have never figured out how to do this. Thanks a bunch!
Great buy....these are highly sought after.
you are very welcome
Thanks for a clear, concise video. Great camera work, excellent volume. Very helpful, good job.
it disassembles just like the makarov I have, thank you for the video. Very imformative and to the point
Tighter side of the recoil spring goes on the barrel, not the larger, looser part.
Yes I know,
Bought a PPK /S and I would like to clean her up properly. Thanks for the video!
#2 jamming on first round, start with the magazine locked back and then put in your loaded magazine, release the slide with a quick snap, DO NOT baby the pistol, the slide should slam forward as hard and fast as it is able. Never let the slide slam forward when a pistol is empty. Hope that helps
You are SO right about not babying this gun. And definitely don’t ride the slide forward. Letting the slide fly forward on its own is what resolved my ‘first round not loading and magazine dropping out on second round’ issues. The gun needs to use all its energy so I load up by locking the slide back on an empty mag, removing empty mag, installing a new mag (with only 6 rounds), then letting the slide fly. No more issues after I started doing this.
Yes the spring goeg tight end over barrel first
I see that you do what I figured out for reassembly--keep sideways pressure on the trigger guard so it doesn't snap up. Had I watched your video first, I'd have saved myself a lot of frustration. 😖
I was gifted a ppk/s. It's a delightful little pistol.
The PPK, (not the S version) is my EDC. I reload for it & after over 1K rounds still enjoy the quality of the design. Yes, a little heavy for EDC but that weight helps in follow up shots at the range. Just a quality gun, mine is the S&W 2010 version with one piece feed ramp that is highly polished.
Great response form someone that really owns one. Thank you
Great show! I really apreciate Whalter PPK.
Thank you
open the trigger guard and slip a small piece of cardboard between the guard and frame. No need to torque the guard.
Great contribution, Thank you for that and taking the time to post your idea
Thank you Hollywood. Having a *itch of a time keeping the trigger guard. Being my 1st gun, I thought I was doing something wrong. Thank you very much.
@@Mel-ry1rx mine is newer and it only stays up if pushed to one side (in my case, the left). I have no problem keeping it in place during breakdown but reassembly was a frustrating PITA because the guard kept snapping back into place. However, I discovered that just keeping sideways pressure (it doesn't take much) on it with my right index finger until the slide is placed works like a charm.
Useful, thanks. Consider re -filming as the resolution is barely watchable. TY!
Great question, Will do a video on gun jamming, & New gun break in. problem #1 jamming when shooting, Fiocchi is a little inconsistent, but for most it works and is inexpensive. The PPK's notorious for being finicky, Buy 250 rounds, Winchester White Box and break-in all over again. That should repair the problem. Remember not all ammo will shoot well in every pistol, you must try different ammo to find what it likes. see next post for slide problem
Owned a 007 cap gun as a child growing up with Dad in US ARMY in Germany. Bought my first PPK/S As well
Alan,
Thank you for your demo and thank you for being so positive about this gun. I bought this model new at my local gun shop because it felt very good in my hand.(I was told that's how you should choose a gun) However now I'm finding so many negative reviews with gun owners out there about the PPK/S (repeated jamming issues) that I've not even taken it out of the box. This is my very first gun and I'd really like to get confident enough to proceed with handgun lessons with a local instructor. I know absolutely nothing about guns and really want to learn and develop self confidence with a firearm. Your video was very encouraging and I'm thinking that perhaps I didn't make a mistake in choosing this gun after all. Can you or anyone else add any comments that might spur me on? Thanks.
The PP, PPK, & PPK/S are all good pistols. Yes they are picky about the ammo you put in them but that is something you have to deal with if you want a supper accurate pistol for it's size. A good gun smith can polish the ramp a little and that will help a lot if you have a jamming problem. What I would sagest is try a few ammo brands and see what your gun likes. Start with Winchester White Box, This is the bench mark ammo most gun company's use to test their firearms. Also clean your gun before you shoot it for the first time and only shoot full metal jacket ammo for the first 300 to 500 rounds to break in the gun. do not fear your PPK, if it were not a good pistol it would not have been around for as long as it has been.
The PPK is an excellent choice. Familiarity with any firearm is essential. Practice, practice until it is second nature. Under stressful conditions there is no time for confusion.
You may have already had this answered. I own two PPKs hand guns. I have owned them for years and even took my CCW class and qualified with one of them a number of years ago. They are excellent weapons. Choice of ammunition is a factor, as has been stated, with many semi automatic hand guns. Guns "like" different brands. Winchester or Remington are good range cartridges and I like Horniday Critical Defense to have in my gun when carrying. I have never had an issue with any of them. I think you will be pleased and as already stated practice is the key. Going to the range once a year is not adequate. I go at the minimum every month and many time more than that. I love to shoot and I hope you do as well.
@@GJM6400 I agree with everything you said . Have the PPK/S stainless never had a problem!!! I am more accurate with it than my Glock 45, 9 mm!
You got me to subscribe with your opening line. Thank you
Thanks for the video, the fixed barrel is the downside 😂
thank you for your comment
Alan
I think you put the recoil spring on backwards. That's also why it fell off in the beginning. Maybe I was taught incorrectly. Who knows?
One question. There seems to be a difference of opinion as to whether the tight end of the spring goes to the rear or the front of the barrel. I had had some stove piping that seemed to go away when I installed the spring with the smaller tight end to the rear against the barrel support. The looser/larger end is freer with less resistance to slide on the barrel.
the tight end in on the barrel, this helps with stability and you near the wider side up front so the spring does not work its was out of the around of the barrel.
Alans Firearms First, Thankyou for mentioning that the spring has a right way and a wrong way. With all the vids I've been watching as I try to get my PPK/S to work, you are the first to say that there is a right and a wrong way for the spring to be mounted. In your vid you seem to be putting the spring on loose end first but in your difficult to understand, full-of-typos explanation above, you seem to be saying the opposite. So, is it loose end first as in the vid, or tight end first as you say above? Thank you.
clockxyz1 Tight first, otherwise you'll have a difficult if not impossible time putting the pistol back together. Also, if you DO manage to get it together with loose end on first, your pistol will not cycle properly or at all.
If you should disassemble a PPK like this one and the spring just drops off, check that there is a tight end. If so it was put on wrong.
Just got my newly refurbished PPK. Thank you for the informative video.
Excellent review!
You put the spring on backwards, the small end goes on first
Yes the spring goeg tight end over barrel first
Thanks for the nice video. Just want ask if the direction of the spring is correct in your video. I’ve seen in other videos that the narrow end is towards the back of the gun. This is the ways it’s on my FEG PMK-380 which is similar to the Walther. Peace.
yes you are right narrow end is to the back of the weapon
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Did u ever have the safety lever itself break off????
nice video - what ammo do you suggest? I just bought mine and put 150 rounds of Fiocchi in it, and it jammed a fair amount. Of course, I understand a fair amount of that was probably me, but frequently, it jammed after just inserting the magazine and racking the slide. I don't believe it was a matter of how I was racking the slide.
Good job..just purchased the ppk/s...super cool..!!
Thank you for the kind words, Enjoy you new gun
Do you recommend against using a brass brush on the the interior of the barrel? Or a bore snake for that matter?
I cannot pull my slide back outta nowhere ... no ammo is stuck ... but there is extreme TENSION there ... i can't nor can my buddies pull it back ... happened after a few weak fires ... is there a part i should be looking at specifically ? .. seems likeit's gotta be a spring problem, but maybe i'm 100% wrong ...
I just fixed a problem like this. Now if you can only pull it back a little and then it stops! then there is a small part in the gun that broke off and is stuck in the action. YOU NEED A GUN SMITH. If it comes back all the way but it is just very hard, then you may have the spring on backwards. field strip the ppk and look at the spring the open end should be towards the front of the gun and the end that is turned back on it self should go on the barrel first. Hope this helps. Let us know the outcome. Thanks
An old video that keeps on giving? Any updates on the much said spring comments? I know of the spring to not just slide over the barrel, but to insert at least one spring coil where the spring meets the frame. As of one end appearing "open" or even look different ... nope, not on the PKK I'm aware of. The only difference seen on the spring end to end is one end (the end the meets the gun's frame once spring in fully installed) shows flat spot wear on last coil that slides slightly into the frame.
Thank you!!!
whats the name of the cleaner you are using? i dont know how to spell what you said thanks!
Hi Alan. Would you have any specs when it comes to Scheduled spring(s) replacement. Last time at the range I had an abundance of failures to fire based upon lights strikes - as on the 2nd or 3rd strike the .380 acp would finally go off - BUT not all of them. Some after multiple strikes would not fire at all I tested a different brand and results were exactly the same. I'd really appreciate any advice and information you would have regarding this. Sincerely, JAMES.
you should contact Walther and they may send you a new spring.
@@AlansFirearms I bought a new spring from Wolff Springs and does much better. Reasonable price. Got a number 17 spring.
Is that the same way you clean a 9mm blank pistol ppk
+trumpton77 ... YES
+trumpton77 could you show me where to oil thanks alan ,
+trumpton77 sorry i got the wrong video thats cool great video thanks for your help
I always wanted one of these never could bust out the big bucks for a heavy 380. If I ever see one under $300 I’ll pick it up
Very interesting, thank you (btw Cubby Broccoli insisted Bond switch to a Walther PPK as he felt a Beretta was a 'lady's gun'! Fleming followed suit in subsequent books following the film's lead. There's a line of dialogue in Dr. No that refers to Bond's Beretta jamming on previous assignment).
yes I remember that seen. But it was just a movie
Actually it was arms expert Geoffrey Boothryd that recommended to Ian Fleming to replace the Beretta with the Walther. In Dr. No, as a tribute to Boothryd, the character that gave Bond his Walther was named Major Boothryd.
@@ByronRashed bingo.
I heard that Walthers ppk 380 and 9mm pistols are banned in California
I only know about the USA
They are not on the list, however, I just purchased a West German (1980) Walther PPK/S from a gun broker. You can purchase them, they just have to be from a private party sale or broker where the gun was originally acquired in California before the list of approved firearms was created or when it was on the list. Firearms go on and off the list in CA all the time, ridiculous law!
Better dont rest trigger guard on frame. I made dent on frame that way.
thank you for the comment but I do not think that can happen, the frame on a walther ppk is way too heavy to be dented by the finger guard. But if you meant scratched then that could happen if you are not carful of put something under the trigger guard to prevent that from happing like a piece of leather or even a cleaning patch.
Alans Firearms Mine PPK have aluminium alloy frame, it got dented.
ok then thank you for that information, I have never seen an alloy frame on a ppk
Strike Hold
Alans Firearms,, You Are Wright About The Spring,,He's Got It {Wrong} The Tight inn Goes On First!!!
I enjoyed the presentation... but... "Gunneria"? seriously?
LOL I loved "Gunneria. I thought it was a clever pun.
The worst POS I've ever owned. Get a makarov at 1/4 the price!.