They went out from us, but they were not of us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19 KJV
*1 John 2:19* *These people left our churches, but they never really belonged with us; otherwise they would have stayed with us. When they left, it proved that they did not belong with us.*
The falling away of these so called christian rappers is designed to weaken the faith of others and create doubt for the new believers. However this doesn't take away from the power of the gospel it actually reinforces it.
the fact he couldn't say it is a sign of God when your truly are in love with God you find yourself struggling to let the words out, because the path of God is so strong you find yourself thinking how did it become of this? but the bible says the great falling away. ....it;s crazy. scary. and quite eye awakening to see prohpecy befold in front of your eyes
That’s sad… I think of that scripture if they had been of us they would have remained with us.. I’m just so sad 😞 for anyone to renounce their faith In Christ. I worry each day if I’m forgiven, I beg everyday for forgiveness and would do anything for the Lord. I hope he comes back to the Lord one day
Romans 8:1 "There is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Even after we are saved, wewill continue to "mess up", because we are still in mortal bodies. We ask forgiveness to stay in good relationship with our Father. We can only lose our salvation if we "practice" sin, actually turning away from God. Read Ezekiel 18 for more info. See ya in heaven! 🙏
@@jeannemyers489No man that has truly been regenerated by the supernatural work of God can be dead again spiritually. Man can't lose salvation because he had nothing to do with salvation in the first place. Salvation is wholly a supernatural work of God. Men that walk away from the faith were never born again/regenerated. The Bible makes this abundantly clear. You have a high view of man and a low view of God. Arminianism is heresy.
@@paulkonadu. This is growth. Black Folk in various parts of the world are choosing to know history rather to believe in mythology. History says that slavery is one of the most affective ways to get African people in the church and to keep them there.. Well we aint been slaves for quite some time now and folks will in a sense most likely go back to doing things they were doing before slavery.
@@whatshatnin4572 you’re deceived. But carry on. Christianity has been around longer than slavery. In fact, it’s part of the reason for the liberation of “slaves” dating back all the way to Exodus. The fact that wicked people have used it for their own gain does not negate the freedoms it (serving Jehovah) brought including freeing slaves all the way from Exodus, to England with William Wilberforce, then America during the civil war. Your history is flawed and twisted because you’re blinded by your skin color; which you’ve made your god.
@@paulkonadu. it's true that Christianity predates Black Folks being enslaved in America and in the Caribbean but that has no weight based on what I'm talking about. Black Folks in America and in the Caribbean were introduced to Christianity by slave masters. That's just the facts. So a people who give up on the god of their slave master makes sense. And you want to give credit to Christianity for stopping slavery but blame evil people for starting our enslavement and maintaining it for hundreds of years.... and you wonder why Black Folk dropping this foolisness.. This ain't got nothing to do with exodus. We talkin about history not mythology.
@@whatshatnin4572 the myth is the so called “history” you’re claiming to assert which is based on a false narrative. Christianity was introduced to America by missionaries. Slave masters in turned used it for their own evil agendas. Hence why they tried to keep slaves from reading and writing. In every place in history, once people received knowledge of the Word of God and were able to read it for themselves, it brought liberation and freedom to that people group. In fact the first book ever printed on the printing press was the Bible during the great reformation in England, and it flipped all of Europe upside down and liberated the common people from oppression by the Catholic Church. Check your “history” and please read it through a proper unbiased lense.
Sad to hear this news of a brother who I grew up appreciating and respecting as he boldly proclaimed the Gospel of Jesus through hip hop along with the rest of his crew CM! But I’m not totally shocked or at all moved in my faith and walk with Christ, because the Bible foretold that things like this would happen in the last days before His return. That a great falling away will take place! I will still rock those old hip hop classics because the truth that was shared through hip hop, is still true to this day! 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (EB:IETMT): Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NLT): For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
There comes a time where you’ll need Jesus. And he’ll be the only one there for your if you call on His Name you will be saved. Then more “research” will be available to you and you’ll see that Jesus is the Truth, the Way, And the Life. His Word is Amen.
1 John 2:19 “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” King James Version (KJV)
Sir, I understand. I had a real hard time to agree with scripture, but with much prayer and supplication I made my request for more understanding and got it.
If you listen closely to his renunciation video, the original fissure began with the desire to disassociate himself from an evangelical Christian movement that has conflated itself with conservative political ideology in an unhealthy way that is opposed to the cause of Christ. I've often commented to friends that unbelievers particularly, but even those within the faith, would eventually begin to impute that conservative rhetoric to Christianity, as if it formed part of the faith, and wish to distance themselves from the faith itself. I'm afraid that is what was at least partially at play in phanatiks case. Body of Christ, please segregate your Christian walk from your secular associations; for the Kingdom's sake!
You see what I see, you speak what i speak! I'm glad that there are others who discern this calling of one's culture, country, conservatism Christian when Christ was born in another culture & country. We are of another kingdom or else we to would fight. Your comment should have 1 million likes
@@armyantlocsta Thank you my brotha, you're the firs person with whom that comment has really resonated. It's so clear to me, I would have thought that others would see it!
Yes. It's just a matter of time for those who have a strict view of the Bible to see the dismissive and sometimes racist under and overtones from our brothers of European decent. They claim to not see ethnicity, but they see it clearly when they are made uncomfortable. It's one of the reasons why the Christian church in the is one of the most segregated institutions in the U.S. Unfortunately for me I can't find a church where I live that doesn't have strong social political leanings. They lean either left or right. It's very disheartening. However it hasn't changed my view of who Christ is. I will continue to attend church services because it's what He commands me to do. Grace and peace.
Which is worse, this public declaration of his loss of faith; or the hordes of people professing Christianity while leading lives that are its very antithesis?
Or maybe he’s renouncing the apostate church clubs. Which are Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2Tim3:5 . Of course we couldn’t hear the entire video because you cut it off, A lot of these mega churches are preaching a different Jesus. They think that the reason man is separated from God is because they are bad and need to be made good. When in reality it is only because they are natural and only those who are spiritual can inherit the kingdom of God. Which is why Jesus said "Ye must be born again".
Praying for you, just like anyone else who needs Christ. We are not let down, we follow Christ. The problem is why do these people feel the need to denounce Christianity? Just live your life.
It would help if he\you (Phanatik) clarified, 'What new biblical or theological enlightenment have you had which translated into your denouncing the Christian faith?' And does your denouncing classical Christianity indicate denouncing Jesus Christ as Son of God and Savior? Perhaps clarity on exactly what you're (Phanatik) will help with understanding your defection. You've alluded to areas of biblical rejection and broader enlightenment without precise tenants addressed.
Phanatik: Really bad decision. We still love you and Jesus does too. Return back to the Lord because without him life is empty and void. Only Jesus offers peace and joy. I grew up listening to you back when you were in Cross Movement. There is no peace for the wicked. Ill keep praying for you.🔥🔥
They went out from us, but they were not of us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19 KJV
*1 John 2:19*
*These people left our churches, but they never really belonged with us; otherwise they would have stayed with us. When they left, it proved that they did not belong with us.*
For the gate is narrow and the way is constricted that leads to life, and there are few who find it
The falling away of these so called christian rappers is designed to weaken the faith of others and create doubt for the new believers. However this doesn't take away from the power of the gospel it actually reinforces it.
Praying for him, that he may one day find himself back to the house of grace ❤️
the fact he couldn't say it is a sign of God when your truly are in love with God you find yourself struggling to let the words out, because the path of God is so strong you find yourself thinking how did it become of this? but the bible says the great falling away. ....it;s crazy. scary. and quite eye awakening to see prohpecy befold in front of your eyes
I see you cut the video off before he was finished. I would love to see the whole video!!
That’s sad… I think of that scripture if they had been of us they would have remained with us.. I’m just so sad 😞 for anyone to renounce their faith In Christ. I worry each day if I’m forgiven, I beg everyday for forgiveness and would do anything for the Lord. I hope he comes back to the Lord one day
Comes back?? Probably never knew the Lord in the first place.
Romans 8:1 "There is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
Even after we are saved, wewill continue to "mess up", because we are still in mortal bodies. We ask forgiveness to stay in good relationship with our Father. We can only lose our salvation if we "practice" sin, actually turning away from God. Read Ezekiel 18 for more info. See ya in heaven! 🙏
@@jeannemyers489No man that has truly been regenerated by the supernatural work of God can be dead again spiritually. Man can't lose salvation because he had nothing to do with salvation in the first place. Salvation is wholly a supernatural work of God. Men that walk away from the faith were never born again/regenerated. The Bible makes this abundantly clear. You have a high view of man and a low view of God. Arminianism is heresy.
Follow Jesus!!! Not Humans. Jesus paid it all! Not Christian leaders.
Growth is not a sin. I applaud him for exercising his ability to change his mind.
Sorry but this ain’t growth. It’s backsliding. Praying for him. 🙏🏾
@@paulkonadu. This is growth. Black Folk in various parts of the world are choosing to know history rather to believe in mythology. History says that slavery is one of the most affective ways to get African people in the church and to keep them there.. Well we aint been slaves for quite some time now and folks will in a sense most likely go back to doing things they were doing before slavery.
@@whatshatnin4572 you’re deceived. But carry on. Christianity has been around longer than slavery. In fact, it’s part of the reason for the liberation of “slaves” dating back all the way to Exodus. The fact that wicked people have used it for their own gain does not negate the freedoms it (serving Jehovah) brought including freeing slaves all the way from Exodus, to England with William Wilberforce, then America during the civil war. Your history is flawed and twisted because you’re blinded by your skin color; which you’ve made your god.
@@paulkonadu. it's true that Christianity predates Black Folks being enslaved in America and in the Caribbean but that has no weight based on what I'm talking about. Black Folks in America and in the Caribbean were introduced to Christianity by slave masters. That's just the facts. So a people who give up on the god of their slave master makes sense.
And you want to give credit to Christianity for stopping slavery but blame evil people for starting our enslavement and maintaining it for hundreds of years.... and you wonder why Black Folk dropping this foolisness..
This ain't got nothing to do with exodus. We talkin about history not mythology.
@@whatshatnin4572 the myth is the so called “history” you’re claiming to assert which is based on a false narrative. Christianity was introduced to America by missionaries. Slave masters in turned used it for their own evil agendas. Hence why they tried to keep slaves from reading and writing. In every place in history, once people received knowledge of the Word of God and were able to read it for themselves, it brought liberation and freedom to that people group. In fact the first book ever printed on the printing press was the Bible during the great reformation in England, and it flipped all of Europe upside down and liberated the common people from oppression by the Catholic Church. Check your “history” and please read it through a proper unbiased lense.
I'll be praying for him. Loved his music.
May I ask who this is?
Exactly.....to gain the world and lose your soul...there's nothing in this world that will satisfy your soul but Christ.
Sad to hear this news of a brother who I grew up appreciating and respecting as he boldly proclaimed the Gospel of Jesus through hip hop along with the rest of his crew CM! But I’m not totally shocked or at all moved in my faith and walk with Christ, because the Bible foretold that things like this would happen in the last days before His return. That a great falling away will take place! I will still rock those old hip hop classics because the truth that was shared through hip hop, is still true to this day!
2 Thessalonians 2:3 (EB:IETMT): Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NLT): For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will reject the truth and chase after myths.
I'm very proud of this brother for standing strong, doing his own research and making the right decision...🤓🤓🤓
There comes a time where you’ll need Jesus. And he’ll be the only one there for your if you call on His Name you will be saved. Then more “research” will be available to you and you’ll see that Jesus is the Truth, the Way, And the Life. His Word is Amen.
Yep Research that he is making a grave mistake.
1 John 2:19
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
King James Version (KJV)
He was never of the faith to begin with...Kanye west clone.
Amen!
Name calling is unnecessary.
Majority of ”christians” are the tares among the wheat.
Exactly
Sir, I understand. I had a real hard time to agree with scripture, but with much prayer and supplication I made my request for more understanding and got it.
Sigh I'll be praying for you bro. Still love you
Please link the whole video
Heart broken. I pray the Lord restores him and bringing back his prodigal son.
If you listen closely to his renunciation video, the original fissure began with the desire to disassociate himself from an evangelical Christian movement that has conflated itself with conservative political ideology in an unhealthy way that is opposed to the cause of Christ. I've often commented to friends that unbelievers particularly, but even those within the faith, would eventually begin to impute that conservative rhetoric to Christianity, as if it formed part of the faith, and wish to distance themselves from the faith itself. I'm afraid that is what was at least partially at play in phanatiks case. Body of Christ, please segregate your Christian walk from your secular associations; for the Kingdom's sake!
You see what I see, you speak what i speak! I'm glad that there are others who discern this calling of one's culture, country, conservatism Christian when Christ was born in another culture & country. We are of another kingdom or else we to would fight. Your comment should have 1 million likes
@@armyantlocsta Thank you my brotha, you're the firs person with whom that comment has really resonated. It's so clear to me, I would have thought that others would see it!
Yes. It's just a matter of time for those who have a strict view of the Bible to see the dismissive and sometimes racist under and overtones from our brothers of European decent. They claim to not see ethnicity, but they see it clearly when they are made uncomfortable. It's one of the reasons why the Christian church in the is one of the most segregated institutions in the U.S.
Unfortunately for me I can't find a church where I live that doesn't have strong social political leanings. They lean either left or right. It's very disheartening.
However it hasn't changed my view of who Christ is. I will continue to attend church services because it's what He commands me to do.
Grace and peace.
Let’s hear the rest of what he has to say 🤷♂️
Who cut the video?
30 years without truly knowing Jesus.
Which is worse, this public declaration of his loss of faith; or the hordes of people professing Christianity while leading lives that are its very antithesis?
Does Hebrews 10:26-31 apply?
Its funny how people aren't realizing...he used the Bible to disprove his faith...its not the text but the context 🤷🏾
What is this rapper’s name?
Phanatik he was in the group cross movement with Ambassador back in the day.
Or maybe he’s renouncing the apostate church clubs. Which are
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2Tim3:5 . Of course we couldn’t hear the entire video because you cut it off, A lot of these mega churches are preaching a different Jesus.
They think that the reason man is separated from God is because they are bad and need to be made good. When in reality it is only because they are natural and only those who are spiritual can inherit the kingdom of God. Which is why Jesus said "Ye must be born again".
Praying for you, just like anyone else who needs Christ. We are not let down, we follow Christ. The problem is why do these people feel the need to denounce Christianity? Just live your life.
😥🙏
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It would help if he\you (Phanatik) clarified, 'What new biblical or theological enlightenment have you had which translated into your denouncing the Christian faith?' And does your denouncing classical Christianity indicate denouncing Jesus Christ as Son of God and Savior? Perhaps clarity on exactly what you're (Phanatik) will help with understanding your defection. You've alluded to areas of biblical rejection and broader enlightenment without precise tenants addressed.
Phanatik: Really bad decision. We still love you and Jesus does too. Return back to the Lord because without him life is empty and void. Only Jesus offers peace and joy. I grew up listening to you back when you were in Cross Movement. There is no peace for the wicked. Ill keep praying for you.🔥🔥
So you used God for success and then said I don't need you anymore wow. Well, good luck
That's why I believe in the doctrine of the elects
Praying for you ❤️🩹