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Your final line is really the answer. We should aspire to fluency - that's a valid, achievable goal. But just don't consider yourself a failure when you haven't gotten there yet. Enjoy the journey.
"The majority of language kearners will not reach B2." Steve, thank you for telling us that. It makes me feel better about myself. I am roughly between b1 and b2 in French oral comprehension. I get discouraged because I cannot understand very much when I listen to French news broadcasts. Anyway, thanks. I do listen and read every day, sometimes as much three hours. Cheers.
Don’t give up, buddy, I’ve been studying English for 2 years and 3 months and living in Australia for 10 months, I’ve been watching tv show and movies without subtitles and I reached 1300 hours from those ones. I listened 500 hours from UA-cam and in background I have around 1500 hours of listening from podcast. About the reading skill, I read 12 books. Despite of such listening and reading a lot I haven’t reached the B2 level. However I keep going no matter what happens, I just do it every single day.
@@kevinjones2145 To make you feel better... What is a vast majority of language learners? Almost every person in the WORLD had taken a foreign language in school. Most don't move beyond beginner level, and will lose all knowledge and skills shortly after graduation. So, the bar for what is your "average language learner" is set very low.
I listened to a Spanish podcast today, and actually understood a lot of it. I feel like the practice is helping to understand more. With about 1 1/2 years steadily being active with the language, I’m able to use what I know on the construction sites I work on. It’s more and more enjoyable to simply talk to another person. Is it awkward, sure a little. My mindset is becoming less fluency for the sake of fluency oriented, and becoming more about knowing enough for sufficient communication oriented. I see this as being a never ending process to enjoy, not “I will never be good enough” trudge to get through.” I am confident enough at this point to make small talk, order food, buy things, and communicate needs on a construction site. It can only get better with time. At the rate I’m going, I can picture myself being very comfortable communicating in another 3 years. And mind you, this is with maybe 30min-1hr daily engaging the language. I’m currently at the point of looking for input that is interesting enough to keep my attention.
If you already understand more or less what people talk about, input is the way to go, worked great for me too, when I was learning Spanish😁 If you're looking for good input, I'd honestly recommend you to keep watching the same type of videos here on UA-cam that you normally would, but search for them in Spanish!
I’ve been learning Japanese, only for 2 1/2 months now. But every or maybe every other week or so, when I watch an anime in Japanese with Japanese subs I get the feeling that I have a somewhat firmer grip on the language so to say, that I understand just a little bit more and am a little bit more comfortable with the sounds and the way sentences are formed and expressed. That always gives me the confidence that despite not feeling like I’m making progress short term, in the long term it WILL lead to improvement, inevitably. That’s really been my key motivation so far.
The same thing is happening to me! I've been doing Duolingo for almost a year now and while I still don't understand anything, I notice words that I know all the time and it's happening more and more often😁
Once you get around 2500-3K-ish words under your belt, it's very possible to read manga and enjoy it. With some OCR like kanjitomo for quickly looking up words you understand quickly you can get to like 90% comprehension and actually have fun engaging with works in the original language. That for me is already motivation in itself. Listening is always more difficult imo. But like Steve says there really is a treshold where you are good enough to actually have some fun and using the language without necessarely obsessing over "getting fluent" (because that shit will take a LONG time, and if you obsess over it you're risking burnout imo). So 頑張れ！
I think every language learner should aspire to fluency. I've noticed that this desired goal is a huge motivation for many language learners. Also, it can spark the desire to learn if someone is not already. Being fixated on fluency can be done in a healthy and fun matter that doesn''t compromise your sanity in my opinion. This was a great video Steve! I love hearing your perspective on all things language learning but especially on the topic of fluency.
Hi Steve. You're absolutely right...I'm a former Montessori teacher and fluent in 6 languages...my kids learned 5 languages by the age of 5 .. my 10 years old daughter is reading,writing, speaking in 6 languages fluent .. I'd love to get in touch with you ..
Years ago I read in a book about language learning (don't remember the title) that any amount of language learning is worth it, because the result is proportional to the effort you put in - learning to a high level is very useful but takes a lot of time, learning a little only a little. He used the example that the one word "agua" in Spanish would take only a few minutes to learn, but could save your life if your car broke down in the Mexican desert. Another value of language besides communication is connection, and it's a lot easier to learn enough to connect than to communicate well. Learning several phrases of polite introductory conversation - like greetings, please, thank you, excuse me, how are you, pleasure to meet you, and so on might take only a few days, but can do wonders for connecting with people. A very good return on investment! I've been invited to people's homes for dinner because I spoke a few words of their language. Of course I'd like to become fluent, but all the points along the journey are rewarding.
I just turned 27 and there are still a lot of things I don't know about my native language, French, even though I am often complimented for my good command of that language. For me, if I can listen to most things, read, write, and express myself in a language without feeling like a toddler, then I consider the language acquired and now proceed with the lifelong improvement phase which I am also going through even with my native tongue. Even Shakespeare still had things to learn about English. It's about progression, not perfection.
Indeed. Learning everything about any language is basically impossible. There's no mountain peak to get to. But there is a feeling that once you get far enough you no longer struggle. Like the mountain gets less steep
My moms lived in america for as long as I’ve been alive, the other day she asked me to explain an English word she never heard. It makes sense that she would have never encountered the word, it was some medical term that’s never used but I used to study some medical text. There’s no way to know everything, not even in your first language
I believe that light reading is the best way to fell this "easy sense of the achievement" that you were talking about. Even reading a comics in the target language or trying to understand the headlines in newspapers works for me at least and give the incentive to keep working on my language skills. 😊
I was happy to see the quote from Kató Lomb! I've observed in my own language-learning experience and in that of my students that basic knowledge of a language can enrich you profoundly. I once had a student, a high school senior who was a motivated and talented language learner, who asked me to sponsor an independent study project on a Native American language. At some point it became clear to him what I knew from the start: that he was not going to go far in one year of independent study, particularly given the difficulty of the language and the paucity of resources on it. But his efforts to get a basic sense of the language allowed him to grow a lot as a language learner and granted him rich knowledge and appreciation of indigenous American languages, language preservation efforts, Native American history, and related topics. In my own experience, sometimes languages stick and become a part of me, sometimes they don't. Russian stuck, Norwegian didn't, for instance. But like Steve, I don't regret spending time on the ones that I haven't gone far in. I learned a bit about Norway, I can recognize the language, I can read with a dictionary, and for now I'm happy with that. I hope to go back to Norwegian some day, and it will be easy for me to rebuild on my modest base in the language. In short, I wholeheartedly agree with the idea that a "language is the only thing worth knowing even poorly."
I've observed that in French, the mere ability to begin comprehending advanced material like films brings me a sense of satisfaction. However, I don't have a desire to live and work in France.
thank you for the encouragement. This video comes right time for me as I am on the lonely journey learning French. Although I know that "time" is the only parameter in learning a new language, I still feel a lot discouraged on the road. Thanks for the tips. I realize that I need to think of a way designing the journey to be a little fun with small, positive, tangible feedback.
People in countries where there are many languages tend to accept communication rather than fluency. I speak "pidgin French," and I can have meaningful communication with Arabic speakers, or someone from French speaking parts of Africa, but not with Frenchmen (I have had limited contact with French women). In South Africa I have been able to communicate in Zulu, even though it is very basic, simply because the Zulu speaker respects my attempt at communicating in his/her language, and makes an attempt at trying to understand, and enjoys it. This in spite of my grammatical imperfection and limited vocabulary. Impatience with foreign speakers, in my experience is a thing in Western culture.
Just wanted to say I have been watching you on and off for a couple of years and I really appreciate you and your Content. Stay healthy greetings from germany
I love the final sentence! We can indeed aspire to be fluent if we want to, but a fixation is usually hurtful to progress. Great message, Steve, thanks for sharing!
i've gained a lot from this video, as i am fixated with the fluency all the time and feel unconfident when i speak the non-native language. Just like Steve said, rewarding, discovering, satisfaction and the joy during the journey of learning the new language is enough.
You're definitely my favourite language geek! I love how non gimmicky you are, and that you come across as a solid, honest fellow traveller, or someone trying to sell me on a scheme. Thanks for this, it's helpful.
Thank you Steve! You share free material/videos/apps etc for learners like me. You're scenario is always great! and your content is that important for mostly people. Keep going man! Saudações do Brasil!
This is definitely contextual. If you are learning a language for a hobby, of course you can set your goals low. But for a practical purpose fluency should be the goal
Good advice. I think a lot of people give up because they don’t think fluency is possible, and the process has benefits and is enjoyable regardless of the level of fluency reached. I actually liked the creased fake bookshelf background because it showed you were more about the message than flash. I think a simple photography seamless colored paper backdrop with a PVC DIY stand is a good option. The white curtains are ok, but something with a light color would look better, in my opinion.
Systems over goals. Good to have a goal to reach for or aspire to, but having a system that you follow everyday is much more important for steady progress. Your videos always help me at the perfect time.
This is such a relief to just let this word "fluent" go. My definition of fluent is so severe, that it is really demotivating. It is better to enjoy what I'm doing and be proud of my progress. It isn't like I'm moving to these places or need it for work.
yeah 👍 you're absolutly right ✅ just relax and enjoy your time during the journey to fluency, don't harry up don't think in when this journey finish, just relax and enjoy 😉
As an English learner i totally agree with you that we won't speak second languange perfectly however, we should keep enjoying the journey of languange learning. Yes, don't aspire fluency in languange learning, just enjoy the languange that we are learning.😁
A great video Steve and it's a point worth making. I have a list of languages that I want to learn. I'm learning two of them at the moment. I would like to be fluent in some - but not all. It entirely depends on why I want to learn the language. If I do want to take something to fluency, I always make sure I have dome realistic targets. For example, I'm never going to say that I want to get fluent in 3 months. Due to my lifestyle, that's just impossible. I wouldn't put a deadline on it because it then takes a lot of pressure off and makes things more fun. Something more realistic is e.g. being able to have basic conversations or ask questions and understand answers before going on a holiday.
Wow, I never heard about Kato Lomb. Apparently, she spoke even more languages than Michel Thomas. I used Michel Thomas' materials when learning English. I will look into Kato's books and learn more about her method. Last year I improved my Spanish to a B1 level and saw how proper techniques can help speed up the process. This year I decided to take a language I am clueless about and see how fast I can reach basic proficiency. I have chosen German and will move to other languages when I reach a satisfying level. I learn a lot through your videos thank you for sharing what you have learned over the years and allowing stand on your shoulder in some sense in order to go higher.
I think placing the bookshelf a few feet farther behind you would have made it look quite nice :D. Also making sure it was square with the camera, both sides at equal distance from it, so that the shelves don't tilt weirdly. Don't know how big it is though, or how much space you have, so there may be some issues with putting it too far back. But hey, it's an idea :D. Very nice insight as always!
in a few months ago i don't understand what you say at many videos ,i am learning English nowadays ,i think with your videos i will improve my listening 👂 that thing makes me feel great about my journey
Dear Steve, many thanks for your time and efforts. It is really sad that some people can think that they can criticise groundlessly anything in the world. Please do not pay any attention to negative comments/ groundless negative remarks. For example, I really enjoyed looking at the big bookshelves on your background. It was not only creating appropriate atmosphere, but inspiring and motivating to read more. I was astonished to hear that any person could COMPLAIN about it! It's really nonsence and senseless. Of course you don't have time/need to take any books from the shelves during your videos, as the topic of your channel is NOT discussing the books. But they create a positive, very motivating atmosphere and absolutely appropriate . You are doing a great thing, your channel is the best, but some people, who themselves are not capable to create anything, just constantly trying to find any "negative" aspects in the other's fruits of great labour. Please continue in your own magnificent style. BRAVO!!!!
By watching only the beginning of the video, on the subject of your background, I would say that the background of your real room with those bookshelves was far better; nonetheless, it is simplistic and beautiful, too.
I don't mind the bookshelf too. But I like how looks your background and your shirt or polo. This colors are good together) language is worth to investing and you can enjoy it even if you not fluent yet. That's the main idea your message, right?
Hello mr Steve. I’m Ella from Turkey! Im currently b2 at English. And I’m trying to learn German and Spanish at the same time. Can you make a video about learning multilanguages at once.
When one sometimes can find the right or better word or expression, or even correct a native speaker during a conversation, that means one has come a long way in having learned that language to a high level without being "fluent" in it.
All this, of course, is very true and should in my opinion be considered when building a language program in a school. Evidently, the first days, weeks, months, year(s) should be tremendously interesting and appealing, with great stories and interesting text, not largely useless and overly abstract grammar concepts.
I'm confused on why people choose to watch a video about language learning, but focus on everything but the content relating to language learning (i.e. the wall paper, Steve's skin tone etc.). How very strange.
Thank you for another interesting and informative video. I can understand and appreciate everything you say about fluency. I have to say I am amazed about the odd remarks about the backdrop you use. Seems irrelevant to me.
Just my opinion the shelves looked better more "alive" or natural. . This new look, looks more like somone that's trying to sell me something on the internet. :D But don't mind me i am not a regular viewer.. :D Maybe creating a pole on the community page would be better to decide this..
What is a vast majority of language learners? Almost every person in the WORLD had taken a foreign language in school. Most don't move beyond beginner level, and will lose all knowledge and skills shortly after graduation.
Whats your opinion on practicing two languages at the same time? i like the process of lang. learning and its really engaging to study about vastly different languages but i have heard that it can be detrimental in comparison to focusing on one at a time, im sure i will keep doing it because it keeps me interested for longer periods of time but im curious about your take on the subject
Hahaha I think I'm at a B1 level with Mandarin which I learned in school up to high-school and we had tests where we would write essays and stuff that we memorized and written complicated characters, in short I graduated high school but I'm still at a B1 based om the CEFR but I wouldn't get lost in a Chinese speaking country I mean I'd get by asking people for directions and what not. that's 13 years of school for you but I don't care I'm happy to tell people I speak Mandarin.
Hi! I am listening to podcasts and reading books and articles (news, Reddit, etc) in my target language (Swedish) but I have a huge problem reproducing the language even though I can understand 70%+ of the spoken and 90%+ of the reading material. But it just seems that I only remember the words when I am reading or hear them, but when it is the time to write and especially speak, it is like I have forgot everything… Any ideas or help? I sadly have no one to speak to and practice the spoken language (for the written I can use some online stuff like Reddit and Discort)
I think that's perfectly normal, you need to activate this passive knowledge of the language that you have. For a start, you could start talking to yourself saying aloud, for instance, what you are doing. Also don't try to just write random things but make "conscious" sentences with the words you encounter in your reading that you wish to activate. You can get someone to correct them on Italki or Journaly if you are unsure. Then you could make flashcards on Anki or Quizlet. As for finding a partner to speak, there are several apps around to find a tandem partner or if you can afford it, you could pay for a tutor on Italki. Also, there might be some linguistic meetings in your area which might be attended by Swedes. If you already understand up to 90% of the language, you have a great headstart on other learners who understand much less
A common problem. I have the same - always had: The passive vocabulary is separate from the active vocabulary. You understand a word when you hear it, but it's not there when you want to speak. I know some people (not many) who are different - their brains only hold a shared vocabulary: anything learned passively can be used actively, *immediately*. But that's very rare. The only thing which I believe helps in addition to actively practicing speaking (and shadowing, as Marcelo suggests, may work fine for that - though I don't subscribe to the model of shadowing where the focus is on talking on top of what's said, I believe it's fine to just listen and repeat), is input. Lots of input. Read, read, and read again (definitely find something you enjoy reading, or it won't work), and listen (again, to something you want to listen to, or at least not dislike listening to) until the sentences keep echoing around in your mind long afterwards. That worked even for me - that's how I learned English. I didn't try to learn English, I just wanted to read and listen - which just happened to be in English, and then there were some people around I had to speak to now and then.
Hello sir, please answer me -how many languages do you learn simultaneously? One of my ambitions is to become a polyglot like you 😊 Presently I can speak 5 languages. Learning Spanish and German.. I want to learn as many languages as possible.but I don't know a perfect study plan for learning more than one language.(simultaneously)
I get the feeling that maybe "proficiency" is a better word for this than "fluency", when you present it this way? To me, "fluency" simply means that you can speak without having to actively construct the sentence before you say it - it just flows (which is what "fluency" technically means). My wife is still not satisfied with her knowledge about my native language, she's often frustrated by her missing vocabulary and her level of ability to understand what everyone's saying, but she's been able to speak her mind for *years*, use everything she knows, even back when she had just passed the A2 exam. To me that *is* fluency (totally unlike my Japanese, where I have to assemble a sentence as or before I speak), though not necessarily proficiency. When that's said, I agree it's much better to focus on immediate, rewarding goals, or not even look at them as goals - listen to something and find it rewarding that even if you don't understand all, you can get *something*, or, as I did yesterday, read something and notice that you are actually able to recognize that the same word is used in different places and you just start to get a feeling about how/what it's used for. After all, for most people you don't get better at athletics simply by aspiring to become an Olympic Gold medalist when you're starting out.
I'm currently learning English, I can understand some topics not very well but I get the main ideas though I feel stuck and I think I'm not improving my skills, I'm little bit afraid of making mistakes
Why you shouldn't aspire to fluency: First, if you are setting your sights on TRUE fluency - native LEVEL fluency, you will never get there, realistically - there'll always be that gap between you and a native speaker. Doesn't matter how hard you try - if you're starting out 25, 35, 45 years old learning this new language, the native speaker AUTOMATICALLY has a head start on you of DECADES. You'll never catch up and that's because even with your native language you are learning every year - you learn new words - for instance, in high school I did not know what "axiomatic" or "pecuniary" or "perfunctory" meant - now, fast forward 20 years and I know those and many OTHER words in English I didn't know - my wife is a native Chinese speaker, I am a secondary Chinese speaker - and I am a native english speaker - she is not - despite how VERY WELL she can communicate in English - she is nearly finishing her Ph.D. studying entirely in English so her level is THAT good - but despite me only just now pursuing my Master's degree, MY English level is, of course, far beyond hers EVEN THOUGH her level is at least a C1 if not close to C2 or at C2. Doesn't matter - I have a pretty advanced vocabulary EVEN FOR a native english speaker and I have 25 years of a head start on her - she will never, ever catch up. BUT here's the thing: that doesn't really matter. She's at a good ENOUGH level that we can have whole conversations in English without slowdowns or me having to repeat things all the time or explain what words mean - she knows what 99.9% of the words I use mean - granted I know with her I can't pull out the really big words that I know, but I don't really NEED to in any real-world setting - so PRACTICALLY speaking, the gap between us does not impact communication at all - some people may consider that then to be very fluent - I'd agree it's a DEGREE of fluency but it is not 100% at the same level - she still has an accent, I still know a lot more words than she does, my understanding of grammatical syntax is considerably better - she does have to ask for my advice on how to phrase sentences here and there when writing things, but PRACTICALLY speaking, that hardly matters. I never think of her as someone I have to struggle to communicate with. We can have advanced conversations about philosophy and all manner of things - her Ph.D. is in philosophy - or dreams of the future or historical events or ancient poetry and she can do all of that FULLY in English with no slow-down or thinking of what to say. That's ENOUGH. If you make my mistake - you shoot for NO gap between you and a native speaker - you are setting yourself up to be frustrated and are more likely to want to quit. If you are not having a good time learning the language, if it's not meaningful to you to continue, you will VERY OFTEN fail to reach ANY degree of fluency - even B2, much less C1 or C2. I've been learning Chinese off and on for nearly 15 years and I still have a lot I don't understand. I can COMMUNICATE, sure, I can have conversations - simple though they may be - but I am always annoyed with myself at how much I DON'T understand, and it makes it a grueling and sometimes painful and dull thing to keep trudging forward. Thankfully, I have the personality type where once I set my sights on anything - doesn't matter what it is - and say I'm going to DO that thing, I never, ever relent no matter how much I fail at it - otherwise I'd have quit 10 years ago. I am incapable of quitting - it's not in my makeup as a person to say nevermind, not worth it, even if it's not worth it. It took my TEN YEARS to finish my Bachelor's degree - because I kept screwing up and losing interest and had some serious depression issues for a while and had to pay my very expensive tuition out of pocket but MOST of all because I obsessed over getting my senior thesis project to such a high and impressive level that it'd be published and I'd make a name for myself - because I ALSO have the unfortunate trait of being someone who doesn't want to go for anything short of perfection, which is a bad combination when you consider that I'm ALSO someone who never, EVER can let something go once I start after it. It means it takes me a LOT longer to do things because I don't want to be second rate at anything, and I end up creating a situation where I've backed myself more and more into a corner until I can only do the very best I possibly can and finally finish the thing short of perfection, because perfection in the real world is not feasible. The same is true of language learning. MY method is perhaps too slow for many because I will OBSESS over EXACT native level pronunciation of every word, I will repeat it a thousand or a million times to get it right, I will play videos in Chinese over and over and over and OVER again and look up every word I don't know until I can understand every single word in the entire video without hesitation - imagine a guy sitting there replaying the same 5 seconds of video 50 or 60 times in a row to try to FORCE himself to hear the really unclearly pronounced, heavily-accented sound someone is making - obsessing over it to that degree, unable to move on until I can HEAR the words I know SHOULD be in there but sound very different to my ear (because if you dont know, Chinese has many dozens of dialect accents and some people speak incredibly quickly and unclearly with many verbal shortcuts, which makes picking out a sound pretty much impossible - which is why most Chinese shows have Chinese subtitles - not for the hard of hearing but because even NATIVE speakers need help sometimes). That's me. That's how I am. I can't help it. It bothers me too damned much when I don't understand something. So my process is very very grueling, painful and slow and stressful. The first few hundred words over decade ago? FUN. That was fun. I felt great. I was saying simple sentences in a new language, I felt cool doing it - fast forward over a decade and despite my level being way better than it was back then, studying is now this thing I have to MAKE myself do because I am incapable of stopping until I reach a high degree of fluency to the point where I'm 99.99999999% native level or indistinguishable from that native level - and that might take ANOTHER 20 years. So, don't be like me. If you want to have FUN learning a language, view it as a game. See how much you can understand but don't expect yourself to beat the final boss with level 1 armor and at level 1. You need to get to level 90+ for that and have endgame armor and weapons, if you catch my analogy. Make a GAME of it. Bookmark videos you know you can't understand now, come back in a year or so and see how much of it you can - having benchmarks like those to track your progress is actually a REALLY important thing otherwise you kind of lose track and feel like you've plateaued and aren't getting anywhere no matter how hard you study. Set benchmarks. But don't obsess over reaching true native level fluency like me. You most likely can't, and that's fine - you ONLY need to get to a level where you can communicate all the things you want in that language fluidly, watch movies and TV in that language with no subtitles, read books in that language, etc - if you can get to THAT level, I'd say you've done what 99.9% of learners fail to do. ALMOST ALL people who start learning a new language as a hobby rather than out of a need to survive will fail to advance beyond an A2 to B1 level. If you reach even B2 to C1, you've done fantastically and it's a huge achievement.
Lo leí todo, realmente gracias por tomarte el tiempo de dejar esa enseñanza me ayuda a querer seguir aprendiendo y a no tomarme las cosas demasiado enserio.
I don't agree with anything you're saying, and I'm sure you wouldn't have agreed with it a few years ago either. The tests on lingq are a waste of time, and you know it better than I do. Are you becoming old and set in your ways?
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What are your short and long term language learning goals?
have a backdrop that you like and not what others like, thanks for the video.
Your final line is really the answer. We should aspire to fluency - that's a valid, achievable goal. But just don't consider yourself a failure when you haven't gotten there yet. Enjoy the journey.
Bah ouais 😹
Just like life!
"The majority of language kearners will not reach B2." Steve, thank you for telling us that. It makes me feel better about myself. I am roughly between b1 and b2 in French oral comprehension. I get discouraged because I cannot understand very much when I listen to French news broadcasts. Anyway, thanks. I do listen and read every day, sometimes as much three hours. Cheers.
Don’t give up, buddy, I’ve been studying English for 2 years and 3 months and living in Australia for 10 months, I’ve been watching tv show and movies without subtitles and I reached 1300 hours from those ones. I listened 500 hours from UA-cam and in background I have around 1500 hours of listening from podcast. About the reading skill, I read 12 books. Despite of such listening and reading a lot I haven’t reached the B2 level. However I keep going no matter what happens, I just do it every single day.
@@douglasmendes6934 thank you ,Douglas. I have almost 600 hours of reading and listening. I know I am making progress. Good luck with your English.
@@kevinjones2145
To make you feel better...
What is a vast majority of language learners?
Almost every person in the WORLD had taken a foreign language in school.
Most don't move beyond beginner level, and will lose all knowledge and skills shortly after graduation.
So, the bar for what is your "average language learner" is set very low.
I listened to a Spanish podcast today, and actually understood a lot of it. I feel like the practice is helping to understand more. With about 1 1/2 years steadily being active with the language, I’m able to use what I know on the construction sites I work on. It’s more and more enjoyable to simply talk to another person. Is it awkward, sure a little. My mindset is becoming less fluency for the sake of fluency oriented, and becoming more about knowing enough for sufficient communication oriented. I see this as being a never ending process to enjoy, not “I will never be good enough” trudge to get through.” I am confident enough at this point to make small talk, order food, buy things, and communicate needs on a construction site. It can only get better with time. At the rate I’m going, I can picture myself being very comfortable communicating in another 3 years. And mind you, this is with maybe 30min-1hr daily engaging the language. I’m currently at the point of looking for input that is interesting enough to keep my attention.
If you already understand more or less what people talk about, input is the way to go, worked great for me too, when I was learning Spanish😁 If you're looking for good input, I'd honestly recommend you to keep watching the same type of videos here on UA-cam that you normally would, but search for them in Spanish!
I’ve been learning Japanese, only for 2 1/2 months now. But every or maybe every other week or so, when I watch an anime in Japanese with Japanese subs I get the feeling that I have a somewhat firmer grip on the language so to say, that I understand just a little bit more and am a little bit more comfortable with the sounds and the way sentences are formed and expressed. That always gives me the confidence that despite not feeling like I’m making progress short term, in the long term it WILL lead to improvement, inevitably. That’s really been my key motivation so far.
The same thing is happening to me! I've been doing Duolingo for almost a year now and while I still don't understand anything, I notice words that I know all the time and it's happening more and more often😁
@@notanative anything is good but for Japanese and other non-latin languages especially . It is best to use Duo-lingo in addition to other resources
Once you get around 2500-3K-ish words under your belt, it's very possible to read manga and enjoy it. With some OCR like kanjitomo for quickly looking up words you understand quickly you can get to like 90% comprehension and actually have fun engaging with works in the original language. That for me is already motivation in itself. Listening is always more difficult imo. But like Steve says there really is a treshold where you are good enough to actually have some fun and using the language without necessarely obsessing over "getting fluent" (because that shit will take a LONG time, and if you obsess over it you're risking burnout imo). So 頑張れ！
めちゃすごい！頑張って👍
I think every language learner should aspire to fluency. I've noticed that this desired goal is a huge motivation for many language learners. Also, it can spark the desire to learn if someone is not already. Being fixated on fluency can be done in a healthy and fun matter that doesn''t compromise your sanity in my opinion. This was a great video Steve! I love hearing your perspective on all things language learning but especially on the topic of fluency.
Hi Steve. You're absolutely right...I'm a former Montessori teacher and fluent in 6 languages...my kids learned 5 languages by the age of 5 .. my 10 years old daughter is reading,writing, speaking in 6 languages fluent .. I'd love to get in touch with you ..
Years ago I read in a book about language learning (don't remember the title) that any amount of language learning is worth it, because the result is proportional to the effort you put in - learning to a high level is very useful but takes a lot of time, learning a little only a little. He used the example that the one word "agua" in Spanish would take only a few minutes to learn, but could save your life if your car broke down in the Mexican desert.
Another value of language besides communication is connection, and it's a lot easier to learn enough to connect than to communicate well. Learning several phrases of polite introductory conversation - like greetings, please, thank you, excuse me, how are you, pleasure to meet you, and so on might take only a few days, but can do wonders for connecting with people. A very good return on investment! I've been invited to people's homes for dinner because I spoke a few words of their language. Of course I'd like to become fluent, but all the points along the journey are rewarding.
I just turned 27 and there are still a lot of things I don't know about my native language, French, even though I am often complimented for my good command of that language. For me, if I can listen to most things, read, write, and express myself in a language without feeling like a toddler, then I consider the language acquired and now proceed with the lifelong improvement phase which I am also going through even with my native tongue. Even Shakespeare still had things to learn about English. It's about progression, not perfection.
Indeed. Learning everything about any language is basically impossible. There's no mountain peak to get to. But there is a feeling that once you get far enough you no longer struggle. Like the mountain gets less steep
@User Well said.
Having studied over 60 languages, I'm so happy to watch this video :)
My moms lived in america for as long as I’ve been alive, the other day she asked me to explain an English word she never heard. It makes sense that she would have never encountered the word, it was some medical term that’s never used but I used to study some medical text. There’s no way to know everything, not even in your first language
I believe that light reading is the best way to fell this "easy sense of the achievement" that you were talking about. Even reading a comics in the target language or trying to understand the headlines in newspapers works for me at least and give the incentive to keep working on my language skills. 😊
I was happy to see the quote from Kató Lomb! I've observed in my own language-learning experience and in that of my students that basic knowledge of a language can enrich you profoundly. I once had a student, a high school senior who was a motivated and talented language learner, who asked me to sponsor an independent study project on a Native American language. At some point it became clear to him what I knew from the start: that he was not going to go far in one year of independent study, particularly given the difficulty of the language and the paucity of resources on it. But his efforts to get a basic sense of the language allowed him to grow a lot as a language learner and granted him rich knowledge and appreciation of indigenous American languages, language preservation efforts, Native American history, and related topics. In my own experience, sometimes languages stick and become a part of me, sometimes they don't. Russian stuck, Norwegian didn't, for instance. But like Steve, I don't regret spending time on the ones that I haven't gone far in. I learned a bit about Norway, I can recognize the language, I can read with a dictionary, and for now I'm happy with that. I hope to go back to Norwegian some day, and it will be easy for me to rebuild on my modest base in the language. In short, I wholeheartedly agree with the idea that a "language is the only thing worth knowing even poorly."
Thank you for your videos Steve! It’s been really helpful and brought me to new comprehensions in language learning. ✨❤️
I've observed that in French, the mere ability to begin comprehending advanced material like films brings me a sense of satisfaction. However, I don't have a desire to live and work in France.
Thank you for your wonderful content. Btw, I love the bookshelf. I hope you bring it back. 😃
thank you for the encouragement. This video comes right time for me as I am on the lonely journey learning French. Although I know that "time" is the only parameter in learning a new language, I still feel a lot discouraged on the road. Thanks for the tips. I realize that I need to think of a way designing the journey to be a little fun with small, positive, tangible feedback.
People in countries where there are many languages tend to accept communication rather than fluency. I speak "pidgin French," and I can have meaningful communication with Arabic speakers, or someone from French speaking parts of Africa, but not with Frenchmen (I have had limited contact with French women).
In South Africa I have been able to communicate in Zulu, even though it is very basic, simply because the Zulu speaker respects my attempt at communicating in his/her language, and makes an attempt at trying to understand, and enjoys it. This in spite of my grammatical imperfection and limited vocabulary.
Impatience with foreign speakers, in my experience is a thing in Western culture.
Just wanted to say I have been watching you on and off for a couple of years and I really appreciate you and your Content. Stay healthy greetings from germany
I love the final sentence! We can indeed aspire to be fluent if we want to, but a fixation is usually hurtful to progress. Great message, Steve, thanks for sharing!
I am really struggling with the language of my new country and your channel gave me hope and rekindled my interest. Thank you!
i've gained a lot from this video, as i am fixated with the fluency all the time and feel unconfident when i speak the non-native language. Just like Steve said, rewarding, discovering, satisfaction and the joy during the journey of learning the new language is enough.
You're definitely my favourite language geek! I love how non gimmicky you are, and that you come across as a solid, honest fellow traveller, or someone trying to sell me on a scheme. Thanks for this, it's helpful.
Beautiful message Steve, thanks a lot!! Very necessary, and, even it´s simple, it is not something common to hear! Bravo! I do agree!!
Thank you Steve! You share free material/videos/apps etc for learners like me. You're scenario is always great! and your content is that important for mostly people. Keep going man! Saudações do Brasil!
This is definitely contextual. If you are learning a language for a hobby, of course you can set your goals low. But for a practical purpose fluency should be the goal
Good advice. I think a lot of people give up because they don’t think fluency is possible, and the process has benefits and is enjoyable regardless of the level of fluency reached. I actually liked the creased fake bookshelf background because it showed you were more about the message than flash. I think a simple photography seamless colored paper backdrop with a PVC DIY stand is a good option. The white curtains are ok, but something with a light color would look better, in my opinion.
Oh, no. I loved your bookshelf background 😮. Bring it back 🔙 please
I loved your old backdrop- bring back home libraries and have less man caves-
Your fake book shelf is beautiful! I really miss it. And thank you for inspiring videos!
Systems over goals. Good to have a goal to reach for or aspire to, but having a system that you follow everyday is much more important for steady progress. Your videos always help me at the perfect time.
Mr. Coffee man! Good to see you’re still making videos!
This is such a relief to just let this word "fluent" go. My definition of fluent is so severe, that it is really demotivating. It is better to enjoy what I'm doing and be proud of my progress. It isn't like I'm moving to these places or need it for work.
yeah 👍 you're absolutly right ✅ just relax and enjoy your time during the journey to fluency, don't harry up don't think in when this journey finish, just relax and enjoy 😉
I didn’t mind the bookshelf 😂
In Vancouver the bookshelf is real. He is spending his winter in California
As an English learner i totally agree with you that we won't speak second languange perfectly however, we should keep enjoying the journey of languange learning. Yes, don't aspire fluency in languange learning, just enjoy the languange that we are learning.😁
A great video Steve and it's a point worth making.
I have a list of languages that I want to learn. I'm learning two of them at the moment. I would like to be fluent in some - but not all. It entirely depends on why I want to learn the language.
If I do want to take something to fluency, I always make sure I have dome realistic targets. For example, I'm never going to say that I want to get fluent in 3 months. Due to my lifestyle, that's just impossible. I wouldn't put a deadline on it because it then takes a lot of pressure off and makes things more fun.
Something more realistic is e.g. being able to have basic conversations or ask questions and understand answers before going on a holiday.
i loooved seeing russian authors on that bookshelf!
Wow, I never heard about Kato Lomb. Apparently, she spoke even more languages than Michel Thomas. I used Michel Thomas' materials when learning English. I will look into Kato's books and learn more about her method. Last year I improved my Spanish to a B1 level and saw how proper techniques can help speed up the process. This year I decided to take a language I am clueless about and see how fast I can reach basic proficiency. I have chosen German and will move to other languages when I reach a satisfying level. I learn a lot through your videos thank you for sharing what you have learned over the years and allowing stand on your shoulder in some sense in order to go higher.
I love so much books! I have thousands of them! The world without them would be terribly darkness!
This is exactly right. Even after 30 years of English, people I know are not really “fluent” in strongest sense. It’s an unreasonable goal.
I liked seeing your real books in your older videos!
I think placing the bookshelf a few feet farther behind you would have made it look quite nice :D. Also making sure it was square with the camera, both sides at equal distance from it, so that the shelves don't tilt weirdly.
Don't know how big it is though, or how much space you have, so there may be some issues with putting it too far back.
But hey, it's an idea :D.
Very nice insight as always!
Looks clean! Great video Steve
in a few months ago i don't understand what you say at many videos ,i am learning English nowadays ,i think with your videos i will improve my listening 👂 that thing makes me feel great about my journey
Dear Steve, many thanks for your time and efforts. It is really sad that some people can think that they can criticise groundlessly anything in the world. Please do not pay any attention to negative comments/ groundless negative remarks. For example, I really enjoyed looking at the big bookshelves on your background. It was not only creating appropriate atmosphere, but inspiring and motivating to read more. I was astonished to hear that any person could COMPLAIN about it! It's really nonsence and senseless. Of course you don't have time/need to take any books from the shelves during your videos, as the topic of your channel is NOT discussing the books. But they create a positive, very motivating atmosphere and absolutely appropriate . You are doing a great thing, your channel is the best, but some people, who themselves are not capable to create anything, just constantly trying to find any "negative" aspects in the other's fruits of great labour. Please continue in your own magnificent style. BRAVO!!!!
By watching only the beginning of the video, on the subject of your background, I would say that the background of your real room with those bookshelves was far better; nonetheless, it is simplistic and beautiful, too.
I don't mind the bookshelf too. But I like how looks your background and your shirt or polo. This colors are good together)
language is worth to investing and you can enjoy it even if you not fluent yet. That's the main idea your message, right?
It's step by step, thank you Steve.
Both backgrounds are good. But without them, with a view of the room, it's better. The videos are always great, thank you!
Your wallpaper is now better! Curtain is very fancy
GREAT! MANY THANKS. VERY INSPIRING AND MOTIVATING
I prefer the bookshelf background a lot
Hello mr Steve. I’m Ella from Turkey! Im currently b2 at English. And I’m trying to learn German and Spanish at the same time. Can you make a video about learning multilanguages at once.
When one sometimes can find the right or better word or expression, or even correct a native speaker during a conversation, that means one has come a long way in having learned that language to a high level without being "fluent" in it.
If learning a language was a super power, Steve Kaufmann would be the Thanos of the Marvel Universe.
Looking GOOD!!!
Great video! Mindset is very important, especially when it comes to language learning. Can you add Kurdish (Sorani dialect) to LingQ?
All this, of course, is very true and should in my opinion be considered when building a language program in a school. Evidently, the first days, weeks, months, year(s) should be tremendously interesting and appealing, with great stories and interesting text, not largely useless and overly abstract grammar concepts.
thank you， steve😀
Interesting. Thanks 😊
I'm confused on why people choose to watch a video about language learning, but focus on everything but the content relating to language learning (i.e. the wall paper, Steve's skin tone etc.). How very strange.
Thank you very much. This idea is very valuable.
Wholesome language sage
Very wise and motivational words. Thank you. 💖💖💖💖💖💖🌷
This is a goal I can definitely achieve ty
Thank you for another interesting and informative video. I can understand and appreciate everything you say about fluency. I have to say I am amazed about the odd remarks about the backdrop you use. Seems irrelevant to me.
I’m learning German. Wish me luck guys.
Thank you 😊
Just my opinion the shelves looked better more "alive" or natural. . This new look, looks more like somone that's trying to sell me something on the internet. :D But don't mind me i am not a regular viewer.. :D Maybe creating a pole on the community page would be better to decide this..
What is a vast majority of language learners?
Almost every person in the WORLD had taken a foreign language in school.
Most don't move beyond beginner level, and will lose all knowledge and skills shortly after graduation.
Never seek for fluency, as i'm not sure to be capable of. I know that I can learn, so.. I learn.
Whats your opinion on practicing two languages at the same time? i like the process of lang. learning and its really engaging to study about vastly different languages but i have heard that it can be detrimental in comparison to focusing on one at a time, im sure i will keep doing it because it keeps me interested for longer periods of time but im curious about your take on the subject
Hahaha I think I'm at a B1 level with Mandarin which I learned in school up to high-school and we had tests where we would write essays and stuff that we memorized and written complicated characters, in short I graduated high school but I'm still at a B1 based om the CEFR but I wouldn't get lost in a Chinese speaking country I mean I'd get by asking people for directions and what not. that's 13 years of school for you but I don't care I'm happy to tell people I speak Mandarin.
hey steve! do you have any thoughts in learning asl (or variants)? i have a sense you'll think it veeeey easy, but it is very useful
The bookcases were fake?
I find the last third before fluency (from b2 to c1?) extremely daunting. Any advice? Maybe it's a form of vertigo? Slán!
I really like your videos
Actually my goal is not fluency but to be understood.
I think I prefer the bookshelf background 😅
Hi! I am listening to podcasts and reading books and articles (news, Reddit, etc) in my target language (Swedish) but I have a huge problem reproducing the language even though I can understand 70%+ of the spoken and 90%+ of the reading material. But it just seems that I only remember the words when I am reading or hear them, but when it is the time to write and especially speak, it is like I have forgot everything… Any ideas or help? I sadly have no one to speak to and practice the spoken language (for the written I can use some online stuff like Reddit and Discort)
Try shadowing
I think that's perfectly normal, you need to activate this passive knowledge of the language that you have. For a start, you could start talking to yourself saying aloud, for instance, what you are doing. Also don't try to just write random things but make "conscious" sentences with the words you encounter in your reading that you wish to activate. You can get someone to correct them on Italki or Journaly if you are unsure. Then you could make flashcards on Anki or Quizlet. As for finding a partner to speak, there are several apps around to find a tandem partner or if you can afford it, you could pay for a tutor on Italki. Also, there might be some linguistic meetings in your area which might be attended by Swedes. If you already understand up to 90% of the language, you have a great headstart on other learners who understand much less
A common problem. I have the same - always had: The passive vocabulary is separate from the active vocabulary. You understand a word when you hear it, but it's not there when you want to speak. I know some people (not many) who are different - their brains only hold a shared vocabulary: anything learned passively can be used actively, *immediately*. But that's very rare. The only thing which I believe helps in addition to actively practicing speaking (and shadowing, as Marcelo suggests, may work fine for that - though I don't subscribe to the model of shadowing where the focus is on talking on top of what's said, I believe it's fine to just listen and repeat), is input. Lots of input. Read, read, and read again (definitely find something you enjoy reading, or it won't work), and listen (again, to something you want to listen to, or at least not dislike listening to) until the sentences keep echoing around in your mind long afterwards. That worked even for me - that's how I learned English. I didn't try to learn English, I just wanted to read and listen - which just happened to be in English, and then there were some people around I had to speak to now and then.
Hello sir, please answer me -how many languages do you learn simultaneously?
One of my ambitions is to become a polyglot like you 😊
Presently I can speak 5 languages.
Learning Spanish and German..
I want to learn as many languages as possible.but I don't know a perfect study plan for learning more than one language.(simultaneously)
This opinion is new to me.
I like the curtains more than the books
I get the feeling that maybe "proficiency" is a better word for this than "fluency", when you present it this way? To me, "fluency" simply means that you can speak without having to actively construct the sentence before you say it - it just flows (which is what "fluency" technically means).
My wife is still not satisfied with her knowledge about my native language, she's often frustrated by her missing vocabulary and her level of ability to understand what everyone's saying, but she's been able to speak her mind for *years*, use everything she knows, even back when she had just passed the A2 exam. To me that *is* fluency (totally unlike my Japanese, where I have to assemble a sentence as or before I speak), though not necessarily proficiency.
When that's said, I agree it's much better to focus on immediate, rewarding goals, or not even look at them as goals - listen to something and find it rewarding that even if you don't understand all, you can get *something*, or, as I did yesterday, read something and notice that you are actually able to recognize that the same word is used in different places and you just start to get a feeling about how/what it's used for. After all, for most people you don't get better at athletics simply by aspiring to become an Olympic Gold medalist when you're starting out.
I'm currently learning English, I can understand some topics not very well but I get the main ideas though I feel stuck and I think I'm not improving my skills, I'm little bit afraid of making mistakes
Why you shouldn't aspire to fluency:
First, if you are setting your sights on TRUE fluency - native LEVEL fluency, you will never get there, realistically - there'll always be that gap between you and a native speaker. Doesn't matter how hard you try - if you're starting out 25, 35, 45 years old learning this new language, the native speaker AUTOMATICALLY has a head start on you of DECADES. You'll never catch up and that's because even with your native language you are learning every year - you learn new words - for instance, in high school I did not know what "axiomatic" or "pecuniary" or "perfunctory" meant - now, fast forward 20 years and I know those and many OTHER words in English I didn't know - my wife is a native Chinese speaker, I am a secondary Chinese speaker - and I am a native english speaker - she is not - despite how VERY WELL she can communicate in English - she is nearly finishing her Ph.D. studying entirely in English so her level is THAT good - but despite me only just now pursuing my Master's degree, MY English level is, of course, far beyond hers EVEN THOUGH her level is at least a C1 if not close to C2 or at C2. Doesn't matter - I have a pretty advanced vocabulary EVEN FOR a native english speaker and I have 25 years of a head start on her - she will never, ever catch up.
BUT here's the thing: that doesn't really matter. She's at a good ENOUGH level that we can have whole conversations in English without slowdowns or me having to repeat things all the time or explain what words mean - she knows what 99.9% of the words I use mean - granted I know with her I can't pull out the really big words that I know, but I don't really NEED to in any real-world setting - so PRACTICALLY speaking, the gap between us does not impact communication at all - some people may consider that then to be very fluent - I'd agree it's a DEGREE of fluency but it is not 100% at the same level - she still has an accent, I still know a lot more words than she does, my understanding of grammatical syntax is considerably better - she does have to ask for my advice on how to phrase sentences here and there when writing things, but PRACTICALLY speaking, that hardly matters. I never think of her as someone I have to struggle to communicate with. We can have advanced conversations about philosophy and all manner of things - her Ph.D. is in philosophy - or dreams of the future or historical events or ancient poetry and she can do all of that FULLY in English with no slow-down or thinking of what to say. That's ENOUGH.
If you make my mistake - you shoot for NO gap between you and a native speaker - you are setting yourself up to be frustrated and are more likely to want to quit. If you are not having a good time learning the language, if it's not meaningful to you to continue, you will VERY OFTEN fail to reach ANY degree of fluency - even B2, much less C1 or C2. I've been learning Chinese off and on for nearly 15 years and I still have a lot I don't understand. I can COMMUNICATE, sure, I can have conversations - simple though they may be - but I am always annoyed with myself at how much I DON'T understand, and it makes it a grueling and sometimes painful and dull thing to keep trudging forward. Thankfully, I have the personality type where once I set my sights on anything - doesn't matter what it is - and say I'm going to DO that thing, I never, ever relent no matter how much I fail at it - otherwise I'd have quit 10 years ago. I am incapable of quitting - it's not in my makeup as a person to say nevermind, not worth it, even if it's not worth it. It took my TEN YEARS to finish my Bachelor's degree - because I kept screwing up and losing interest and had some serious depression issues for a while and had to pay my very expensive tuition out of pocket but MOST of all because I obsessed over getting my senior thesis project to such a high and impressive level that it'd be published and I'd make a name for myself - because I ALSO have the unfortunate trait of being someone who doesn't want to go for anything short of perfection, which is a bad combination when you consider that I'm ALSO someone who never, EVER can let something go once I start after it. It means it takes me a LOT longer to do things because I don't want to be second rate at anything, and I end up creating a situation where I've backed myself more and more into a corner until I can only do the very best I possibly can and finally finish the thing short of perfection, because perfection in the real world is not feasible.
The same is true of language learning. MY method is perhaps too slow for many because I will OBSESS over EXACT native level pronunciation of every word, I will repeat it a thousand or a million times to get it right, I will play videos in Chinese over and over and over and OVER again and look up every word I don't know until I can understand every single word in the entire video without hesitation - imagine a guy sitting there replaying the same 5 seconds of video 50 or 60 times in a row to try to FORCE himself to hear the really unclearly pronounced, heavily-accented sound someone is making - obsessing over it to that degree, unable to move on until I can HEAR the words I know SHOULD be in there but sound very different to my ear (because if you dont know, Chinese has many dozens of dialect accents and some people speak incredibly quickly and unclearly with many verbal shortcuts, which makes picking out a sound pretty much impossible - which is why most Chinese shows have Chinese subtitles - not for the hard of hearing but because even NATIVE speakers need help sometimes). That's me. That's how I am. I can't help it. It bothers me too damned much when I don't understand something. So my process is very very grueling, painful and slow and stressful. The first few hundred words over decade ago? FUN. That was fun. I felt great. I was saying simple sentences in a new language, I felt cool doing it - fast forward over a decade and despite my level being way better than it was back then, studying is now this thing I have to MAKE myself do because I am incapable of stopping until I reach a high degree of fluency to the point where I'm 99.99999999% native level or indistinguishable from that native level - and that might take ANOTHER 20 years.
So, don't be like me. If you want to have FUN learning a language, view it as a game. See how much you can understand but don't expect yourself to beat the final boss with level 1 armor and at level 1. You need to get to level 90+ for that and have endgame armor and weapons, if you catch my analogy. Make a GAME of it. Bookmark videos you know you can't understand now, come back in a year or so and see how much of it you can - having benchmarks like those to track your progress is actually a REALLY important thing otherwise you kind of lose track and feel like you've plateaued and aren't getting anywhere no matter how hard you study. Set benchmarks.
But don't obsess over reaching true native level fluency like me. You most likely can't, and that's fine - you ONLY need to get to a level where you can communicate all the things you want in that language fluidly, watch movies and TV in that language with no subtitles, read books in that language, etc - if you can get to THAT level, I'd say you've done what 99.9% of learners fail to do. ALMOST ALL people who start learning a new language as a hobby rather than out of a need to survive will fail to advance beyond an A2 to B1 level. If you reach even B2 to C1, you've done fantastically and it's a huge achievement.
Lo leí todo, realmente gracias por tomarte el tiempo de dejar esa enseñanza me ayuda a querer seguir aprendiendo y a no tomarme las cosas demasiado enserio.
The native has a huge head start on me because I read your comment :-)
When I first read the caption I was a little worried, but I think what he actually means is not to fixate being fluent. I feel like he clickbait me😂.
I don't agree with anything you're saying, and I'm sure you wouldn't have agreed with it a few years ago either. The tests on lingq are a waste of time, and you know it better than I do. Are you becoming old and set in your ways?
Bring back the bookshelf
I have a got Dreams, to learn English
You can do it.
Also look up English lessons on UA-cam.
Arabic is the best language in th world i,m proud of being an arab
I from BRAZIL,
Br em todo canto kkk
Si te animas podemos comunicarnos cuando quieres.. vorbesc si limba românā ..si tu peux on parle francais aussi ..
Aiming too high too soon, you put yourself under pressure and develop less.
I liked the fake books backdrop, partly because it was so obvious!
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