Hello and thank you my friend🙏. Iam very glad you like my videos. The HDP50 is a very nice pistol with good power right out of the box👍💥. Just remember to shoot 12,5mm balls and not 12,7mm since they might riun the rubber-detent. I can highly recomend the pistol 😃👍
Jon, I have a upgraded HDP50 from HOTSPOT Airsoft. It is brutal. Do you think he just removes the restrictor as seen here, or is there some other magic he ads? I have been using it as my EDC over the S2 by the way.
Great video Rune Rebel. Didn't realize how convenient it is to get to the valve constrictor. Now I know why Airgun Alley speaks so highly of you ALL THE TIME!
Thank you my friend. Yes its very easy to remove the restrictor from the CO2 tube. Gian from Argun Alley is one of my friends. He makes great videos. Greetings from Norway 😃
I have the second gen with 11Joule and a tuning valve, legal in Swiss, now it's >20 joule, I have from Ebay alu balls 2.8gramm, and i'm sure they are deadly, at least if you hit him in the head, from 5-8 meters. I have still not find a friend which is willing to try it, in the name of science, but if you here somebody has killed a friend only do test a gun, then you know I was it For the co2 pistol 4.5mm pellets, I use the Kvintor explosive pellets, you should try it, alone the noise is similar to a 22lr pistol!
First of all, thank you for all the work you've done on your channel. I'm using the HDP 50 11 J without restrictor with the recommended steel balls 12.5mm, 8 gram Could you please list all the main precautions to be taken to keep this gun in the best possible working condition using only this configuration? Thanks again and take good care.
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos. The HDP50 seems to like 12,5 and 12,4mm balls best. Just remember to lube with some siliconeoil/spray before putting in the CO2 canister. Dont keep the magazine loaded fully or the spring will take a set. If you keep it loaded then dont put in more than 4 balls max. Think thats about all when it comes to this pistol. Take care and happy shooting 😃
@@DontComeInMyHouseWHAT I MEAN IS THAT IS MY NUMBERS !!! i have kept 3 out of the 4 HDP's that are over 2 yrs old now when i decided to become a master technician in less than lethal modification. these have been taking apart so many times , they all have many hours of airgunsmithing in them along with my HDR.68 i keep also . after all this time they still work immaculately and flawlessly !!!! i dont know if you know this about me , but i strictly always still use 12 gram co2 only , sure if i hook em up to hpa bottles i will get much more joules but the thing here is to keep it LESS LETHAL and holster and carry friendly !!!! .....
Great video, thanks to you I decided to buy HDP 50. I have one question: should I use silicone spray every time when replacing Co2, when I remove restrictor?
Very good testing my friend...it should be noted that steel ball bearings will not fire out the sniper barrel extension...bore size is too big for the barrel. However they will fire out of the tuning barrel and extension.
I have a PT-85 from Gamo CO2 pistol. No any modification and it is able to pierce a can like that within 6 meters using the Gamo PBA Armor. It is the classic .177 caliber. It is not shaped for home defense but it is declared
Hi. I used to shoot with airguns and had a big collection. The true energy is around3 joule or so. Still good power for an airpistol. With the right pellet I think it will make holes in tincans at close range 🤔
@@runerebel8441 Hi! In my experience I had a very good performance using the PBA Armor by Gamo. They're pretty expensive as pellets and pretty rare to get in my area but they have been able to pierce hard and thick plastic at 6 metres after 16 shots in a CO2 capsule. I think they have a good balance between the shape and the weight (6,8 grains, circa). They have a round point made with copper and the reest of the pellet is made with aluminium if I'm not mistaken. I'm satisfied about power and precision if I consider I bought it for 150 euros only (in my area many CO2 guns are sold for 200 or 300 euros so the Gamo PT-85 is cheaper). I also have a Gamo P900 single shot airgun but it is less powerful than the PT-85. I just use it when I don't have so much leisure time for shooting because I'm not forced to shoot a CO2 capsule until it runs out.
@@runerebel8441 yeah, it's very good considering it is a cheap gun. The spring piston guns are indispensable for who shoots airguns and it's not always possible to use a CO2 type. Adding a spring piston model to a CO2 it is a very comfortable combo. 🙂
If you remove valve block you’ll get much more power. However, you’ll decrease rounds per co2 bottle to around 9-10rounds. Compared to 28-30 with stock launcher.
So, If I have a completely stock HDP50 11 joule version, All I need to do is remove this restrictor in there with a screwdriver for 20+ joule? I allready checked the pressure chamber, but there was no horseshoe / block in there stock.
Rune, I am having a really big problem with my hdr50 11 joules and the Hdr68 16 joules . Both were purchased already upgraded from the factory. Both pistols have the same issue. As soon as I load a fresh Co2 cartridge and peirce it , the air immediately escapes from the indicator pin that is located where the hammer would be. I spray silicone every three times I change the Co2 cartridge. I even spray the little indicator button that pops out when the cartridge is pierced. Still has the same issue. Can you please help me??? 😢
Hi my friend. Never had any problems in that spot but it must be an O-ring failiure. Only way to find out and then fix this is to open it up and have a look. Your lockal hardware store should sell O-rings, maybe also its sold in gas-stations. You only have to remove the black plastic covers on the outside plus the brass screw where the pressure indicator sits. You might need a plyers to open the brass screws internals. Let me know how it goes. Good luck
I can shoot steel balls, but only 12,5mm size. The 12,7mm is to large for the tuning barrel. The detent dont like large balls either. If you want a more flat shooting ball then use aluminium balls since they fly faster than steel balls
I didn't use aluminum because of concern for aluminum shavings from softer balls passing through steel barrel and accumulation of shavings damaging seals or other internal components
Hi you say 12.5 mm is it real 12.5 or cal 0.50? I use 12.5 mm in my HDP and HDR with a modified drum to take the 12.5mm which is bigger than cal 0.50. Please confirm. Thanks
Hi. I use real messured 12,5mm steel balls. The 12,7 mm will ruin the detent very fast. The HDR50 can be used with both sizes but the 12,7 mm can be hard to push into the chambers. cheers
were you bought the steel balls? My gosch the power is extrem, for the normal version! the metal can doesn't say much, because a large caliber needs much more power than a 4.5 mm bullet, the .50 hits more surface, but was nevertheless able to penetrate, impressive!
Nice video. Question: I can't seem to find steel or aluminum balls in my country and I cannot import ammo. Is it possible to shoot 12mm glass marbles or I would need bigger size?
Thanks my friend. I think you can use them, but you might want to spraypaint them first. Do this several times to build up the thicknes of the ball. You can also try and wrap them in teflonetape. It works for revolvers, but not sure if it works in pistols 🤔
Thanks for the video. Was thinking about adding this Walther to my collection. Don't understand the price for a weak pistol however. Starting to think about a pass on this for now.
Yes , Loved This Video ! Can You Remove The Restrictor In The HDP 50 , 7 Joule Sold In The US , I see You Have The HDP 50 11 Joule In Europe , Can It Be Done The Same ? Or Do You Have To Do That Complex Disassemble Job , For The Restrictor Removal ? Thanks For Your Help !
Thanks my friend. The 7 joule version has a valveblock that must be removed, but it dont have the restrictor in the CO2 tube. Just pul out the valveblock and you have max power. Several videos here on UA-cam. Check Less Lethal For Dummies. He has several videos where he takes these pistol apart and put them back together again. Not very hard to do. Good luck 😃
Hi Rune, I got the new hdp 50 gen 2 and already removed the restrictor. I do not see any o-ring neither gasket where to spray silicon oil for lubing purposes. Where should I spray after a shooting session? Thank you in advance 🙏
Hi my friend. I use siliconespray down the CO2 tube, plus a little on the pushcap O-ring. You can use any brand. Read the lable on the can. This to make sure it dont harm the seals and O-rings. Good luck 😃
Complimenti,scusami però si stava facendo un di attito sul passare o no falla vanna e prolunga da cecchino...le palle da 12,5 mm che usi nel video padsano ? E puoi dirmi dove si possono acquistare grazie
Hi my friend. The 12,5 mm steel balls seems to work very well in the HDP50. If I also use it with a long barrel it will give over 30 joules, so good power from those balls. You can buy them from www.aliexpress.com
Hello Rune! What are the difference between these setups? Hdp 50 7.5 version. 1: With no c02 restriction in the handle and removed valve block. 2: with full powerkit 50 installed. 3: With valve block removed and powerkit in the handle but with original firepin. Will the 3d option be stronger or less powerful then the 1st?
Hi. Sorry for the late reply. I recommend you just remove the valveblock. Dont put in a powerkit unless you want more shots. The HDP50 likes to be used with an open valve, so no valveblock and no restrictor. You will get 7 or 8 shots from the CO2. Good power.
Hey great video, any chance you could make the same test but with varying distances, say 5mts, 10mts, 15mts. On thick glaas or wood so we can see real world results. No offence but point blank range is useless. I teather have a knife.
Thanks. I only shoot here indoors. I have issues with my neighbours and live in an aparment, so unless I find somewhere I can shoot outside, all shooting is what you see in this video. But from testing a few years ago I remember accuracy isnt that good. I could hit a tincan/popcan at ca 10 meters, but not much more.
Hey Rune! Awesome video Does the valve block removal change the amount of "shots" you get pr. co2 canister? Also, have you tried firing normal rubber balls 2,6grams? What was the fps? All the best :D
Thanks Mathias. Yes you use a lot more CO2 without the valveblock. Shooting without the valveblock and no restrictor will only get you ca 6 shots. I dont have the 2,6 gram rubberballs, but I guess the velocity will be close to 500 fps
I don’t seem to be able to get the constrictor out. Any advice please? Edit: mine is a UK model which I think is 7.5 joule - and I don’t seem to have this restrictor installed.
If you cant pul it out then you must open the mexanism and hammer it out from the other side. Lots of videos on UA-cam how to do this. Check out Seans videos. Less Lethal For Dummies channel. He has several videos on how to do this on the 7,5 joule version. Good luck 😃
I love the HDP50. I removes the chamber block but I did add one of those homemade valve restricted. Went from about 40 shots down 7 shots. And from 7 up to about 24 shots with out loading any power as far as I can tell.
Its a great pistol. The only weak point is the barrel detent. It will be ruined quickly if shooting hard balls. The optimal hole in the CO2 tube restrictor is ca 1mm. Do you know what size the hole in yours is?
I did install a brass barrel that I think might add a couple of joules but no chrony to test. But I feel at close range to the head would quite possibly be lethal. Hopefully I will never have to know for sure.
Thats good. The detent on mine was ruined after ca 200 shots. I shot steel balls and rubber balls mostly. Luckily HD-24 sells 3D printed detents.@@travisnelson8230
Hello. The 7,5 joule version dont have a restrictor, just a valve block. To get max power you must remove the valve block from the valve. Take off the top part (slide). Its 3 pins holding it in place. Push them out from right to left. When the top part is off you will see a brass screw in the rear end of the valve. Screw that out. Under it sits the valve block. It has a silvery collor. Use plyers or similar tool to put it out. Now you can put the screw back and put the top part back on. Job done. Good luck😃
@@runerebel8441 ok because I bought a brand of silicone spray at a hardware store, then I saw on airsoft forums that the brand I got is not reccomended, eventhough it says it's silicone. I dont know who to believe, its as if the airsoft makers only want people to buy airsoft branded silicone and not the silicone you can find in a hardware store
I'm confused. My HDP50 doesn't have the restriction yours has in the CO2 tube but it does have a valve restriction that I removed after watching another video. Do the US versions of these guns have less restriction than the guns in Norway? Does your gun have the valve restriction? Did you remove it?
I have the 11 joule version. In the US they only sell the 7,5 joule version (Im told). The 11 joule dont have the valve block. Mine dont have the valveblock, but it has the CO2 restrictor in the CO2 tube. To get more power from it you need a long barrel and/or use HPA or bulkfill CO2. Use 12,5mm steel balls for max energy.
Hello my friend. The restrictor in the HDS68 is a small brass plug sitting inside the long brass tube that sits between the CO2 housing and valve. Remove that plug and shorten the valvepin ca 3mm (plus remove the valveblock if it has any), and you get close to 30 joule. Good luck 😃
På 7,5 joule utgaven må du fjerne ventil blokka fra ventilen. Sjekk Less Lethal For Dummies youtube-kanal. Han har flere videoer hvordan du skrur på denne pistolen.
Hello amigo. Yes the hole in the restrictor is 0,2mm. The restrictor can be removed from the HDR68, but not from the HDR50. For some reason the HDR50 needs the restrictor. If it dont have it it will dump out the CO2 in only two or 3 shots... If you got the X-treme Modify Pin from www.homedefence-24.com then you can remove the restrictor 😃👍
Hi. I think the searspring is either missing or disslocated. Maybe a ruined heatcore O-ring. Hard to say since I dont have it here. Can you make a video shoeing us?
Hi Amigo. Put in a softer valvespring. You can buy one from www.homedefence-24.com or maybe use a spring from a ballpen. This will rise the power to ca 8 joule. If you open up the volume inside the valve you should get over 10 joule from it. Saludos 😃 @@hectorhugoaliagacamiroaga3341
The 7,5 joule version has a valve block but no restrictor in the CO2 tube. I recommend you watch Sean from Less lethal for dummies channel how to powertune it. He has lots of videos.
Hej Rune vad händer om man glömmer spraya i silikonspray när man tagit bort ploppen du tar bort? Läcker det då? Och en sak till. Kan man sätta tillbaks restriktorn om man vill ? 11 j är väl rätt smärtsamt ändå. 20 måste ju nästan penetrera?
Hei Johan. Det vil nok ikke skade pistolen om du glemmer å bruke silikonspray av og til. Men uten silikonolja så blir det større slitasje på pakninger og O-ringer. Spesielt den som sitter inne i ventilen. Ofte kaldt for "heatcore-O-ring". Denne kan blåse ut og/eller bli ødelagt. Du kan sette tilbake restrictoren. Bruk bare en flat skrutrekker for å skru den inn eller ut etter ønske. 11 joule er plenty. Da kan du skyte hull i blikkbokser/burkar pluss at du får ca 18 skudd pr CO2. Fjerner du restrictor så får du maks 8 skudd og kun de første 4 er kraftige. Men det spørs hva du skal skyte på. Du kan også borre et lite hull i restrictoren. Anbefaler da 1mm hull.😃
Two ways to tell. The 7,5 joule version has a letter "F" inside a pentagram next to the serial number. If no F then its the 11 joule version. When you look down the CO2 tube the 11 joule version has a silvery disk in the bottom and on the 7,5 joule version you look down into a hole and there is no disk.
Hi and thanks my friend. The HDR50 seems to need a restrictor to work. Otherwice it might just dump all the CO2 in one or two shots. But you can try. If you are lucky it will work. I think the best you can do with it is drill the restrictor with a 1mm drillbit. Good luck. Cheers my friend
Are there totally different parts in 7,5J and 11J versions? If not what exactly is the difference? Can the 7,5,J version be as powerful as the 11J if both are modded? Hope you don't getting bored of my questions.
No problem. Iam glad to help. The diffrence is the valveblock in the 7,5 joule version and the restrictor in the 11 joule version. The 7,5 joule has a valveblock but no restrictor. The 11 joule version has a restrictor but no valveblock. I think the valvepin is a little shorter in the 11 joule version but Iam not 100% sure of this. Otherwice they are the same.
@@runerebel8441just bought two of this one now. One for butchering and the other one to compare with.😂 Ordered some 5 gram rubber coated steel balls also
I bought it here in Norway. We can buy them in black collor here. In the USA they are only sold with the orange collor. You can dye them from what Iam told..🤔. The laws change all the time. One day its legal and the next day they are banned...
Hello my friend! By your expertise, concerning self defense, woult it be better to use aluminum or Iron balls? With or without the restrictor? All the best!
Hello my friend. If you want to use it for defence then you want all the power you can get. So no valveblock and no retrictor. Energy seems to be the most with steel balls but aluminium balls can also be used. Cheers 😃
@@runerebel8441 hi my friend! Could you try to crone HDP50 with _"killer arrows"_ or other similar darts? Guess since they are even heavier than Iron balls that will get more power. All the best!
Correct. The restrictor slow down the flow of CO2 making the velocity more even but at lover velocity. Good thing is you get more shots from the CO2 canister😃@@H-M-78
Hi my friend. This is a stock setting pistol. The only thing I did to it was remove the restrictor. If you use the X-treme modify pin from HD-24 you should get a few more shot, but maybe at a slightly slower velocity 🤔
Hei Johan. Ja det kan stemme. Jeg har opplevd dette noen ganger med stålkuler i 12,7mm. Pleier å fungere fint i 12,5mm. Gummikuler og plastkuler pleier normalt å fungere fint. Mvh Rune 😃
Hvis de jammer så tøm ut resterende kuler fra magasinet. Prøv så å skyte ut kula. Går ikke dette så tøm pistolen for gass. Mulig du må demontere pistolen og løfe pipa ut av ramma, for så å fjerne kula så lagde forkiling. Ikke så mange alternativer på denne pistolen. Mvh Rune @@johanwesterlund3098
Men de vanliga gummikulorna med stål i dem? De fastnar inte väl? Ska man spraya lite på kulorna för säkerhets skull? Jag fick en läcka i min gamla hdr 50. Monterade isär hela skiten men fick aldrig ihop den pga alla fjädrar flög åt alla håll. Jag har inte råd med mer än denna hdp 50 den kommer imorgon. Ska jag pröva utan restrictor? Inget får gå fel jag skruvar aldrig isär en HD igen.
Dee kan være vriene å skru på. Men det er mange videoer som viser hvordan delene skal sitte. Trikset er å holde avtrekkeren nede slik at delene ikke hopper ut. Dette kan også gjøres inne i en gjenomsiktig plastpose. Rubber Steel balls pleier å fungere bra. Anbefaler altid å smøre kulene med litt silikonolje. For å minske risikoen for at O-ringen skal blåse ut så bør du nok bruke den med restriktor. Hvertfall de første gangene. Lykke til😃@@johanwesterlund3098
Thanks brother. So far the seals has not blown on the HDP50. But it has happened with HDB68 and HDR68. But not with steel. I used aluminium balls in the HDR68 and Grimburg Jul in the HDB68 when it happened.
Hi my friend. I have not done anything with it. But I get the HDB working right if I use rubber type balls. If I use hard smooth balls I get jams. One day I will tinker with the HDB detent. Maybe put some tape on top of it to make it a bit thicker. I have been told that it works. Not sure since I have not tested this yet 🤔@@louie2020
Merci mon ami sa me rassure j'en ai 2 la première à 1mm et l'autre à 1.5mm sur ce hdp et sur le hdr.68 je l'ai percé à 1mm comme toi c'est puissant et régulier merci pour tes vidéos même si je comprend pas l'anglais 😂 tu assure rune
Non les sous-titres ne fonctionnent pas sur tes vidéo il faut peut-être aller sur UA-cam studio et modifier sa dans la section sous titres à gauche de ton écran ordinateur.
Hard to say. If its a normal guy and not on drugs it might stop him. But depends where you hit. A hit to the head or groint will stop an atacker. This is just a guess from my side since I have never tested this.
Depends on the version you have. The 11 joule dont have any valveblock, so if you remove the restrictor you will get max power. The 7,5 joule version must have the valveblock removed for more power. The 7,5 joule dont have any restrictor in the CO2 tube. Wich version do you have?
The HDR50 must have the restrictor in place. If not the pressure might cause the revolver to fart or dump all the CO2 in just one or twp shots. However the valveblock can be removed for a little more power. The restrictor can be drilled with a 1mm drillbit for even more effect. But dont drill larger then 1mm to make sure it works OK.@@rafabrzozowski9908
i wonder ,would it be better to use 12.7 mm steel balls , tighter fit in stock barrel , now in HD-24 tuning run ,i use 12.5 to my better choice 12.65mm steel balls !!!
@@runerebel8441 absolutely 100% correct sir !!! to get the most performance and longevity of the factory detents , i keep them well lubed with silicone gel and grease and keep my ammo well oiled with silicone oil ! in my shoulder holster rigs , i keep battle packs , i have extra 12g co2's and my container of projectiles are kept well lubed by adding a few drops of silicone oil to them . out of the 3 hdp's i keep , only one has a factory barrel in it , the other 2 have tuning barrels , one is aircraft aluminum and the other is the steel version from home defence-24 !!!! i have several ideas for putting in metal detents in the future when they do finally fail though !
Thanks my friend. Yes its a very cool pistol. The detent is a weak point. The oldest HDP I had broke the detent. But HD-24 sells 3D printed detents so no problem to get hold of one 😃@@rick31869
@@runerebel8441thanks for the reply and info my brother !!!! i hear a lot that Gregorio's dentents from EAST COAST LESS LETHAL ARE PRETTY GOOD ALSO , in lil over 2 years , i have only had one go bad , i waste a lot of silicone oil i guess , but keeping detent and ammo well lubed i think really helps prevent problems !!!
I think the only safe ammo for it is rubber balls. But you must also remember to lube the pistol well. I use siliconespray and it seems to work fine.@@nightjoker2913
Thats the size balls I use in my HDP50 also. Over time I guess the detent will be ruined, but lube the balls with some siliconeoil before loading. That should prevent detent failiure 🤔@@nightjoker2913
hi rebel. If I understood correctly the 11 joule version does not have the valve block i.e. the horseshoe in the barrel. So you just need to remove the restrictor. Right?
Den i 7,5 joule har en F inne i et pentagram stemplet på høyre siden av pistolen, ganske nærme der serienummeret er. Du kan også se ned CO2 røret. Hvis det bare er et åpent hull så er det 7,5 joule utgaven. Hvis du kan se en sølvfarget restrictor så er det 11 joule versionen.@@johanwesterlund3098
Hello Rune. Hope you are keeping well. I have just bought the new Umarex T4E TP50 Gen2. I can’t find a replacement suitable steel threaded barrel for it. Umarex T4E TP50 Gen2 Semi-Auto Marker ua-cam.com/users/shortsrlrpdjM9it4?feature=share
Hello my friend. I just watched your video. Nice shooting. I think you can use the standard tuning barrel for the HDP 50 that www.homedefence-24.com sells. Send him a mail and ask, then you know for sure 😃
Hello, I have 2 questions. 1. What is the purpose of using the silicone spray, does it matter when doing this mod?. 2. I also saw in someone else's video that modding these devices for higher FPS, can render them unable to use the pepper balls, which may burst in the gun itself due to the extra pressure, have you tried these with pepper balls after removal of the restrictor?
Hello. The heatcore O-ring might blow out if you dont use any oil. Siliconeoil is best for the seals but tefloneoil can also be used. Pepperballs is not legal here so I have not tested this.
Hello again, a really cool test and have a bit of fun session. If I keep watching you I will end up having to add an HDP50 to my growing collection.
Hello and thank you my friend🙏. Iam very glad you like my videos. The HDP50 is a very nice pistol with good power right out of the box👍💥. Just remember to shoot 12,5mm balls and not 12,7mm since they might riun the rubber-detent. I can highly recomend the pistol 😃👍
Very nice Brother!! The hdp50 is still one of my all-time favorite launchers. They are just so darn versatile.
Thanks brother. Yes the HDP50 is a super cool pistol. Take care and have a great weekend 😃
How's the power about 10-15 meters or 20?
I think it will be ca 20% lower energy at ca 20 meters distance 🤔@@H-M-78
Jon, I have a upgraded HDP50 from HOTSPOT Airsoft. It is brutal. Do you think he just removes the restrictor as seen here, or is there some other magic he ads? I have been using it as my EDC over the S2 by the way.
@@MultiSkyman1 how are you liking your HDP 50 from hotspot airsoft? What is the spread of joules you are getting and what size ammo do you reccomend?
Great video Rune Rebel. Didn't realize how convenient it is to get to the valve constrictor. Now I know why Airgun Alley speaks so highly of you ALL THE TIME!
Thank you my friend. Yes its very easy to remove the restrictor from the CO2 tube. Gian from Argun Alley is one of my friends. He makes great videos. Greetings from Norway 😃
I have the second gen with 11Joule and a tuning valve, legal in Swiss, now it's >20 joule, I have from Ebay alu balls 2.8gramm, and i'm sure they are deadly, at least if you hit him in the head, from 5-8 meters. I have still not find a friend which is willing to try it, in the name of science, but if you here somebody has killed a friend only do test a gun, then you know I was it For the co2 pistol 4.5mm pellets, I use the Kvintor explosive pellets, you should try it, alone the noise is similar to a 22lr pistol!
nice gun.. very consistent in the speed
Thanks my friend :)
Hi Rune Nicolau (Nick) from Portugal, love the videos, keep up the great work, cheers
Thank you Nick. Iam very glad you like my videos. Greetings from Norway 😃
First of all, thank you for all the work you've done on your channel.
I'm using the HDP 50 11 J without restrictor with the recommended steel balls 12.5mm, 8 gram
Could you please list all the main precautions to be taken to keep this gun in the best possible working condition using only this configuration?
Thanks again and take good care.
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos. The HDP50 seems to like 12,5 and 12,4mm balls best. Just remember to lube with some siliconeoil/spray before putting in the CO2 canister. Dont keep the magazine loaded fully or the spring will take a set. If you keep it loaded then dont put in more than 4 balls max. Think thats about all when it comes to this pistol. Take care and happy shooting 😃
Always trying something new…..fun to watch Rune
Thank you my friend. Iam glad you like the videos 😃
Gracias por tus vídeos se aprende mucho .Saludos desde España
Thank you amigo. Iam very glad you like my videos 😃
1st shot CARUUSHED that can😁😎👍👍
😎✌👍❤🖖
Love Brother
It sure did👍. Cheers brother 😎👍
MY ALL TIME FAV MY BROTHER , 42.92 jOULES WITH 12 GRAM CO2 STILL AMAZES ME !!!!
Thats great brother 😃
What do u mean 43J? He got like 21J at most after taking the restrictor off
@@DontComeInMyHouseWHAT I MEAN IS THAT IS MY NUMBERS !!! i have kept 3 out of the 4 HDP's that are over 2 yrs old now when i decided to become a master technician in less than lethal modification.
these have been taking apart so many times , they all have many hours of airgunsmithing in them along with my HDR.68 i keep also . after all this time they still work immaculately and flawlessly !!!!
i dont know if you know this about me , but i strictly always still use 12 gram co2 only , sure if i hook em up to hpa bottles i will get much more joules but the thing here is to keep it LESS LETHAL and holster and carry friendly !!!! .....
Great video, thanks to you I decided to buy HDP 50. I have one question: should I use silicone spray every time when replacing Co2, when I remove restrictor?
Thanks my friend. Yes I recommend you use silicone spray every time you put in a new CO2 canister. This will lube the seals and O-rings.
Very good testing my friend...it should be noted that steel ball bearings will not fire out the sniper barrel extension...bore size is too big for the barrel. However they will fire out of the tuning barrel and extension.
I send to him that balls and are ok for tunning barrel for HDR50.
The 12.7mm stuck in to HDR50 steel barrel
Scusate se passano dalla canna daccordatura perché non devono passare dalla prolunga da cecchino?
@@turijdragonfly i can't translate it because i use Android phone
@@noobt4eguns i ha e android too end every traduction White my phone 😭
Thanks my friend🙏. Try the 12,5mm steel balls. They should work I think 🤔
I have a PT-85 from Gamo CO2 pistol. No any modification and it is able to pierce a can like that within 6 meters using the Gamo PBA Armor. It is the classic .177 caliber. It is not shaped for home defense but it is declared
Hi. I used to shoot with airguns and had a big collection. The true energy is around3 joule or so. Still good power for an airpistol. With the right pellet I think it will make holes in tincans at close range 🤔
@@runerebel8441 Hi! In my experience I had a very good performance using the PBA Armor by Gamo. They're pretty expensive as pellets and pretty rare to get in my area but they have been able to pierce hard and thick plastic at 6 metres after 16 shots in a CO2 capsule. I think they have a good balance between the shape and the weight (6,8 grains, circa). They have a round point made with copper and the reest of the pellet is made with aluminium if I'm not mistaken. I'm satisfied about power and precision if I consider I bought it for 150 euros only (in my area many CO2 guns are sold for 200 or 300 euros so the Gamo PT-85 is cheaper). I also have a Gamo P900 single shot airgun but it is less powerful than the PT-85. I just use it when I don't have so much leisure time for shooting because I'm not forced to shoot a CO2 capsule until it runs out.
@@mircorizza5609 Sounds like a good pistol. I do the same. If I dont have time to shoot the hole CO2 then I rather use a spring piston gun.
@@runerebel8441 yeah, it's very good considering it is a cheap gun. The spring piston guns are indispensable for who shoots airguns and it's not always possible to use a CO2 type. Adding a spring piston model to a CO2 it is a very comfortable combo. 🙂
@@mircorizza5609 Indeed 😃👍
Cool video thanks Rune. Hdp is a great fun marker. Enjoy your week 😎👍🏼
Thanks my friend. Have a great week you also 😃
👍
If you remove valve block you’ll get much more power. However, you’ll decrease rounds per co2 bottle to around 9-10rounds. Compared to 28-30 with stock launcher.
Yes. Thats correct for a 7,5 joule version. I have the 11 joule version. There is no valveblock in mine, only the CO2 restrictor in the CO2 tube. 🙂
So, If I have a completely stock HDP50 11 joule version, All I need to do is remove this restrictor in there with a screwdriver for 20+ joule? I allready checked the pressure chamber, but there was no horseshoe / block in there stock.
Yes. That is correct.
@@runerebel8441 oh my god thanks, just did it, and it sort of scared me how loud the bang is now hehe! thanks for the cool videos.
@@emveezee 😃🙏👍
Rune, I am having a really big problem with my hdr50 11 joules and the Hdr68 16 joules . Both were purchased already upgraded from the factory. Both pistols have the same issue. As soon as I load a fresh Co2 cartridge and peirce it , the air immediately escapes from the indicator pin that is located where the hammer would be. I spray silicone every three times I change the Co2 cartridge. I even spray the little indicator button that pops out when the cartridge is pierced. Still has the same issue. Can you please help me??? 😢
Hi my friend. Never had any problems in that spot but it must be an O-ring failiure. Only way to find out and then fix this is to open it up and have a look. Your lockal hardware store should sell O-rings, maybe also its sold in gas-stations. You only have to remove the black plastic covers on the outside plus the brass screw where the pressure indicator sits. You might need a plyers to open the brass screws internals. Let me know how it goes. Good luck
Thanks my friend...take care and wish you well.
Great video, whats the best nastiest pepper rounds for hdp50, tnx Rune!
Thank you my friend. Iam not sure since these are illegal here. But ask someone from Germany or the US. They should know. Good luck my friend 😃
Do you thick steel balls maybe too heavy for your modified HDP50? I'm trying to decide if i want to use steel or aluminum balls.
Thanks
I can shoot steel balls, but only 12,5mm size. The 12,7mm is to large for the tuning barrel. The detent dont like large balls either. If you want a more flat shooting ball then use aluminium balls since they fly faster than steel balls
I didn't use aluminum because of concern for aluminum shavings from softer balls passing through steel barrel and accumulation of shavings damaging seals or other internal components
Is 21J in .50 cal better than 31J in .68 cal? Could the projectile penetration be deeper?
Guess the 50 will penetrate deeper, but the stopping power is best with the 68🤔
Hi you say 12.5 mm is it real 12.5 or cal 0.50? I use 12.5 mm in my HDP and HDR with a modified drum to take the 12.5mm which is bigger than cal 0.50. Please confirm. Thanks
Hi. I use real messured 12,5mm steel balls. The 12,7 mm will ruin the detent very fast. The HDR50 can be used with both sizes but the 12,7 mm can be hard to push into the chambers. cheers
@@runerebel8441 I can't find steel balls of 12.5mm in any armory... where can I look for them? thanks.
www.homedefence-24.com/de-no/products/chromstahlkugeln-hdr-hdp-50?_pos=4&_psq=steel+balls&_ss=e&_v=1.0
were you bought the steel balls? My gosch the power is extrem, for the normal version! the metal can doesn't say much, because a large caliber needs much more power than a 4.5 mm bullet, the .50 hits more surface, but was nevertheless able to penetrate, impressive!
Yes it has very good power with the steel balls. Sorry, I dont have a link, but check out www.aliexpress.com
Nice video. Question: I can't seem to find steel or aluminum balls in my country and I cannot import ammo. Is it possible to shoot 12mm glass marbles or I would need bigger size?
Thanks my friend. I think you can use them, but you might want to spraypaint them first. Do this several times to build up the thicknes of the ball. You can also try and wrap them in teflonetape. It works for revolvers, but not sure if it works in pistols 🤔
Thanks for the video. Was thinking about adding this Walther to my collection. Don't understand the price for a weak pistol however. Starting to think about a pass on this for now.
Thanks. Iam glad you like the video
Yes , Loved This Video ! Can You Remove The Restrictor In The HDP 50 , 7 Joule Sold In The US , I see You Have The HDP 50 11 Joule In Europe , Can It Be Done The Same ? Or Do You Have To Do That Complex Disassemble Job , For The Restrictor Removal ? Thanks For Your Help !
Thanks my friend. The 7 joule version has a valveblock that must be removed, but it dont have the restrictor in the CO2 tube. Just pul out the valveblock and you have max power. Several videos here on UA-cam. Check Less Lethal For Dummies. He has several videos where he takes these pistol apart and put them back together again. Not very hard to do. Good luck 😃
10 j max in sweden..( dont care )
Är det så enkelt att bara ta bort saken så blir pickan så stark??
Ja i Sverige må du ikke fjerne restrictoren. Hvis du gjør det så bryter du svensk våpenlov. Heldigvis ingen grense i Norge@@johanwesterlund3098
I en riktig självförsvarssituation spelar det ingen roll. Bara tömma magasinet med stål.
Du vet hur situationen är i Sverige ....(
Hi Rune, I got the new hdp 50 gen 2 and already removed the restrictor. I do not see any o-ring neither gasket where to spray silicon oil for lubing purposes. Where should I spray after a shooting session? Thank you in advance 🙏
Hi my friend. I use siliconespray down the CO2 tube, plus a little on the pushcap O-ring. You can use any brand. Read the lable on the can. This to make sure it dont harm the seals and O-rings. Good luck 😃
That first shot got some nice recoil!
Yes I could feel the recoil 😃
EXCELLENT comme d’habitude : MERCI !
Thanks my friend. Iam glad you like the video
Complimenti,scusami però si stava facendo un di attito sul passare o no falla vanna e prolunga da cecchino...le palle da 12,5 mm che usi nel video padsano ? E puoi dirmi dove si possono acquistare grazie
Hi my friend. The 12,5 mm steel balls seems to work very well in the HDP50. If I also use it with a long barrel it will give over 30 joules, so good power from those balls. You can buy them from www.aliexpress.com
Hello Rune! What are the difference between these setups? Hdp 50 7.5 version.
1: With no c02 restriction in the handle and removed valve block.
2: with full powerkit 50 installed.
3: With valve block removed and powerkit in the handle but with original firepin.
Will the 3d option be stronger or less powerful then the 1st?
Hi. Sorry for the late reply. I recommend you just remove the valveblock. Dont put in a powerkit unless you want more shots. The HDP50 likes to be used with an open valve, so no valveblock and no restrictor. You will get 7 or 8 shots from the CO2. Good power.
Hey great video, any chance you could make the same test but with varying distances, say 5mts, 10mts, 15mts. On thick glaas or wood so we can see real world results. No offence but point blank range is useless. I teather have a knife.
Thanks. I only shoot here indoors. I have issues with my neighbours and live in an aparment, so unless I find somewhere I can shoot outside, all shooting is what you see in this video. But from testing a few years ago I remember accuracy isnt that good. I could hit a tincan/popcan at ca 10 meters, but not much more.
Hey Rune! Awesome video
Does the valve block removal change the amount of "shots" you get pr. co2 canister?
Also, have you tried firing normal rubber balls 2,6grams? What was the fps?
All the best :D
Thanks Mathias. Yes you use a lot more CO2 without the valveblock. Shooting without the valveblock and no restrictor will only get you ca 6 shots. I dont have the 2,6 gram rubberballs, but I guess the velocity will be close to 500 fps
Ok Muchas gracias y siga mostrando videos que son muy buenos
Thank you amigo 😃
I don’t seem to be able to get the constrictor out. Any advice please?
Edit: mine is a UK model which I think is 7.5 joule - and I don’t seem to have this restrictor installed.
If you cant pul it out then you must open the mexanism and hammer it out from the other side. Lots of videos on UA-cam how to do this. Check out Seans videos. Less Lethal For Dummies channel. He has several videos on how to do this on the 7,5 joule version. Good luck 😃
Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/7qekOSz18VU/v-deo.html
I love the HDP50. I removes the chamber block but I did add one of those homemade valve restricted. Went from about 40 shots down 7 shots. And from 7 up to about 24 shots with out loading any power as far as I can tell.
Its a great pistol. The only weak point is the barrel detent. It will be ruined quickly if shooting hard balls. The optimal hole in the CO2 tube restrictor is ca 1mm. Do you know what size the hole in yours is?
@@runerebel8441 No I don't. So far I've been lucky. I shoot steel balls and haven't had any issues so far.
I did install a brass barrel that I think might add a couple of joules but no chrony to test. But I feel at close range to the head would quite possibly be lethal. Hopefully I will never have to know for sure.
Yes its a powerful pistol. Shots to the head might be lethal with steel balls. Take care my friend and ba safe.@@travisnelson8230
Thats good. The detent on mine was ruined after ca 200 shots. I shot steel balls and rubber balls mostly. Luckily HD-24 sells 3D printed detents.@@travisnelson8230
Good video! For home defense is it recommended to remove the ‘’ restrictor’’?
Thanks my friend. The diffrence is not huge but for defence every joule matters. So for defence remove the restrictor 👍
Han är så jäkla bra!
لدي مسدس hdp فقط من فئة 7 joul.فل اذا قمت بإزالة ذلك الشيء،الذي أزلته انت،هل سترتفع نسبة joule عندي
Hello. The 7,5 joule version dont have a restrictor, just a valve block. To get max power you must remove the valve block from the valve. Take off the top part (slide). Its 3 pins holding it in place. Push them out from right to left. When the top part is off you will see a brass screw in the rear end of the valve. Screw that out. Under it sits the valve block. It has a silvery collor. Use plyers or similar tool to put it out. Now you can put the screw back and put the top part back on. Job done. Good luck😃
Hey Rune Rebel, do you reccomend silicone spray into the CO2 port of all less lethal launchers?
Hi my friend. Yes. I use it on all my CO2 markers and airguns. It keeps the seals soft and make them last longer :)
@@runerebel8441 ok good to know, thank you
Is there a particular brand you reccomend?
@@joesolo7719 I just use whatever I can get hold of. Just remember to read on the lable that it dont harm O-rings and seals.
@@runerebel8441 ok because I bought a brand of silicone spray at a hardware store, then I saw on airsoft forums that the brand I got is not reccomended, eventhough it says it's silicone. I dont know who to believe, its as if the airsoft makers only want people to buy airsoft branded silicone and not the silicone you can find in a hardware store
Why not put silicone spray on the cap bolt if the co2 goes in backwards, please explain
Great video!
Thanks my friend. Yes you can put the siliconespray there also. I prefere to just spray it down the CO2 tube. Less messy for me 😃
I'm confused. My HDP50 doesn't have the restriction yours has in the CO2 tube but it does have a valve restriction that I removed after watching another video. Do the US versions of these guns have less restriction than the guns in Norway? Does your gun have the valve restriction? Did you remove it?
I have the 11 joule version. In the US they only sell the 7,5 joule version (Im told). The 11 joule dont have the valve block. Mine dont have the valveblock, but it has the CO2 restrictor in the CO2 tube. To get more power from it you need a long barrel and/or use HPA or bulkfill CO2. Use 12,5mm steel balls for max energy.
Hello! Nice video :) I have a question for you: Does the HDS 68 shotgun have such a restrictor as the HDP 50? Thank you...
Hello my friend. The restrictor in the HDS68 is a small brass plug sitting inside the long brass tube that sits between the CO2 housing and valve. Remove that plug and shorten the valvepin ca 3mm (plus remove the valveblock if it has any), and you get close to 30 joule. Good luck 😃
Is this a valve delete or restricter delete? And what gram balls were you using? Thank you, your content is great!
Thank you. Iam glad you like my videos. I have the 11 joule version. So no valveblock and no restrictor. The steel balls are 8 gram. Cheers 😃
Wow! So much better than the 7.5 j available in US.
Thanks my friend. But wont the 7,5 joule version give similar numbers if you open up the valve?
But not better than my 10mm Glock in the us 😎
True 🙂@@brr8888
@billr6762 shooting 40 s&w in it?
sexy gun !
Sure is 😃👍
Fungerar det på 7,5 j varianten att bara skruva bort den med?
På 7,5 joule utgaven må du fjerne ventil blokka fra ventilen. Sjekk Less Lethal For Dummies youtube-kanal. Han har flere videoer hvordan du skrur på denne pistolen.
Nice power, enjoy your videos my friend, another awesome one 👏👏👍
Thank you my friend. Its a very cool pistol indeed 😃
What size balls ya using? Will typical 1/2 inch/ 12.7mm work in the hdp??
I use 12,5mm steel balls. The 12,7mm is a bit large. You can use them but risk ruin the rubber detent in the breach.
@@runerebel8441 where do you order 12.5mm??I'll probably make a few detents.
Got them from www.aliexpress.com@@RaytheReviewer
Hola my friend. El restrictor original es de 0.2mm ? Y en el HDR se puede sacar tambien para lograr esos mismos valores ?
Hello amigo. Yes the hole in the restrictor is 0,2mm. The restrictor can be removed from the HDR68, but not from the HDR50. For some reason the HDR50 needs the restrictor. If it dont have it it will dump out the CO2 in only two or 3 shots... If you got the X-treme Modify Pin from www.homedefence-24.com then you can remove the restrictor 😃👍
@@runerebel8441 Lo dejare en 1 mm, ahi funciona perfecto y con mucha potencia. Gracias !!!
Thats good. Take care my friend 😃@@wc1630
After converting the valve and pin, gas escapes from the weapon, audible in the barrel? what could be the reason?
Hi. I think the searspring is either missing or disslocated. Maybe a ruined heatcore O-ring. Hard to say since I dont have it here. Can you make a video shoeing us?
Oh thats not good.
Is this simply the removal of valve block or just the restrictor in the inner grip area??
I have the 11 joule version. It has no valveblock. I just removed the restrictor from the CO2 tube
Hola , Cuantas municiones puedes disparar sin el restrictor de aire , sAludos desde Chile
Hi. With an open valve like this I get about 7 shots. Only the first 4 shots has good power.
Ok , tú sabes cómo aumentar la potencia de una PPQ M3 T4E calibre 43 , de fábrica vienen con 5 julios , saludos
Hi Amigo. Put in a softer valvespring. You can buy one from www.homedefence-24.com or maybe use a spring from a ballpen. This will rise the power to ca 8 joule. If you open up the volume inside the valve you should get over 10 joule from it. Saludos 😃 @@hectorhugoaliagacamiroaga3341
When you use the restrictor to get 15 shots, do you use factory or drilled out?
With factory restrictor I get 18 shots in total. With a 1mm hole I get ca 15 shots. But it depends a bit on ammo weight and temperature.
Nice power and stable.
You like my 12.5mm steel balls i see
Yes my friend. Its the ones i use the most in the HDP50. Thanks again for the nice balls 🙂🙏👍
@@runerebel8441 👍🏻your welcome am glad that you like them and you use most of times👍🏻
How many shots can I expect to get per co2 cartridge without the restrictor?
I get between 6 and 8 shots from one CO2 canister. The first 4 or 5 are max power.
Thank you kind sir. Keep up with the awesome videos Rune....Take care my friend.
Thanks my friend. Iam glad to help 😃@@r.r3422
Does this work for the 7.5 joule version aswell?
The 7,5 joule version has a valve block but no restrictor in the CO2 tube. I recommend you watch Sean from Less lethal for dummies channel how to powertune it. He has lots of videos.
Hej Rune vad händer om man glömmer spraya i silikonspray när man tagit bort ploppen du tar bort? Läcker det då?
Och en sak till.
Kan man sätta tillbaks restriktorn om man vill ?
11 j är väl rätt smärtsamt ändå. 20 måste ju nästan penetrera?
Hei Johan. Det vil nok ikke skade pistolen om du glemmer å bruke silikonspray av og til. Men uten silikonolja så blir det større slitasje på pakninger og O-ringer. Spesielt den som sitter inne i ventilen. Ofte kaldt for "heatcore-O-ring". Denne kan blåse ut og/eller bli ødelagt. Du kan sette tilbake restrictoren. Bruk bare en flat skrutrekker for å skru den inn eller ut etter ønske. 11 joule er plenty. Da kan du skyte hull i blikkbokser/burkar pluss at du får ca 18 skudd pr CO2. Fjerner du restrictor så får du maks 8 skudd og kun de første 4 er kraftige. Men det spørs hva du skal skyte på. Du kan også borre et lite hull i restrictoren. Anbefaler da 1mm hull.😃
Tack Rune
Bare hyggelig å kunne hjelpe 😃@@johanwesterlund3098
How can you tell wether you have the 7.5 joule version or the 11 joule version ?
Two ways to tell. The 7,5 joule version has a letter "F" inside a pentagram next to the serial number. If no F then its the 11 joule version. When you look down the CO2 tube the 11 joule version has a silvery disk in the bottom and on the 7,5 joule version you look down into a hole and there is no disk.
Hi my friend, can i do the same in my HDR50 11joules?? Thanks you for your videos
Hi and thanks my friend. The HDR50 seems to need a restrictor to work. Otherwice it might just dump all the CO2 in one or two shots. But you can try. If you are lucky it will work. I think the best you can do with it is drill the restrictor with a 1mm drillbit. Good luck. Cheers my friend
@@runerebel8441 Hi again, but with 1mm drilled i have watched in your videos that there isn't a increase of pover, isn't It?
Are there totally different parts in 7,5J and 11J versions? If not what exactly is the difference? Can the 7,5,J version be as powerful as the 11J if both are modded?
Hope you don't getting bored of my questions.
No problem. Iam glad to help. The diffrence is the valveblock in the 7,5 joule version and the restrictor in the 11 joule version. The 7,5 joule has a valveblock but no restrictor. The 11 joule version has a restrictor but no valveblock. I think the valvepin is a little shorter in the 11 joule version but Iam not 100% sure of this. Otherwice they are the same.
@@runerebel8441just bought two of this one now. One for butchering and the other one to compare with.😂 Ordered some 5 gram rubber coated steel balls also
But unfortunately I can't test it until spring. I'm just a little concerned by prices on accessories, costs more then the marker
I know. It depends on how much you want to use on it. It can get quite expencive....@@H-M-78
Dont use 7.5 j for defence. Maybe for paintball
Can this be done on the gen 2 , is it same restrictor in same place?..thanks.
Hi. Yes I think so. I dont have a Gen2 but I guess so. Cheers 😃
Is that a yes?😆👍
Thanks..👍
Where do you get the black one I only can find dORANGE ones in USA, BUT they banned them in my california WTF
I bought it here in Norway. We can buy them in black collor here. In the USA they are only sold with the orange collor. You can dye them from what Iam told..🤔. The laws change all the time. One day its legal and the next day they are banned...
Lol
Orange! Haha
But you can buy glocks in the supermarket..strange
Thank s a lot!
Iam glad you like the video 😃👍🙏
Hello friend, so by removing that restrictor the power increases from 11J to 20J?
Hello my friend. Yes that is correct.
Hello my friend! By your expertise, concerning self defense, woult it be better to use aluminum or Iron balls? With or without the restrictor? All the best!
Hello my friend. If you want to use it for defence then you want all the power you can get. So no valveblock and no retrictor. Energy seems to be the most with steel balls but aluminium balls can also be used. Cheers 😃
@@runerebel8441 hi my friend! Could you try to crone HDP50 with _"killer arrows"_ or other similar darts? Guess since they are even heavier than Iron balls that will get more power. All the best!
Hi my friend. Sure, but I must have them first. All the best.@@rafael.frigori
What's the purpose with the destrictor? Is it just to stop the gun to waste all gas on a few rounds?
Correct. The restrictor slow down the flow of CO2 making the velocity more even but at lover velocity. Good thing is you get more shots from the CO2 canister😃@@H-M-78
Was the valve block in that one or did you remove it also? Thanks.
I have the 11 joule version. It has no valveblock. Only a restrictor in the CO2 tube. Cheers.
You've just removed the restrictor? Is there any other changes?
Only remove the restrictor. I have the 11 joule version.
Excellent shooting test' bro!
Thank you bro 😃
Is it possible to drill out the limiter instead of removing it?
Guess you can, but there will be metal shavings all over, and that can ruin the O-rings
@@runerebel8441 can be drilled after removing the limiter
Yes. That should work just fine@@artigssowie5251
I don't understand if this gun uses 5mm or 12.5mm bullets? or both?
Hi. It uses 12,5mm balls. The caliber is 50 or 12,7mm but because of the soft barrel-detent its prefered to use 12,5mm balls.
@@runerebel8441 👍😃 ❤💛💚👍😃 ❤💛💚
Why did u use silicone spray?
Too keep the seals lubed so they last longer.
How can u get a black color in this model 😮
You can either buy one from Europe or color dye it (Rit-dye I think its called). I bought mine from www.game-on.no
Hei rune,hai tolto il restrittore,ma la valvola pin è cambiata e a questo punto se non è montata vale la pena cambiarla...o aumeta di tanto?
Hi my friend. This is a stock setting pistol. The only thing I did to it was remove the restrictor. If you use the X-treme modify pin from HD-24 you should get a few more shot, but maybe at a slightly slower velocity 🤔
Vissa säger att stålbollar eller alluminium kan få pistolen att " jamma" fastna..
Är det säkrare att använda steel coated balls? Mvh Johan
Hei Johan. Ja det kan stemme. Jeg har opplevd dette noen ganger med stålkuler i 12,7mm. Pleier å fungere fint i 12,5mm. Gummikuler og plastkuler pleier normalt å fungere fint. Mvh Rune 😃
Om dom jammar.. är det katastrof eller bara ta ut kulan? Mvh Johan
Hvis de jammer så tøm ut resterende kuler fra magasinet. Prøv så å skyte ut kula. Går ikke dette så tøm pistolen for gass. Mulig du må demontere pistolen og løfe pipa ut av ramma, for så å fjerne kula så lagde forkiling. Ikke så mange alternativer på denne pistolen. Mvh Rune @@johanwesterlund3098
Men de vanliga gummikulorna med stål i dem? De fastnar inte väl?
Ska man spraya lite på kulorna för säkerhets skull?
Jag fick en läcka i min gamla hdr 50. Monterade isär hela skiten men fick aldrig ihop den pga alla fjädrar flög åt alla håll.
Jag har inte råd med mer än denna hdp 50 den kommer imorgon.
Ska jag pröva utan restrictor?
Inget får gå fel jag skruvar aldrig isär en HD igen.
Dee kan være vriene å skru på. Men det er mange videoer som viser hvordan delene skal sitte. Trikset er å holde avtrekkeren nede slik at delene ikke hopper ut. Dette kan også gjøres inne i en gjenomsiktig plastpose. Rubber Steel balls pleier å fungere bra. Anbefaler altid å smøre kulene med litt silikonolje. For å minske risikoen for at O-ringen skal blåse ut så bør du nok bruke den med restriktor. Hvertfall de første gangene. Lykke til😃@@johanwesterlund3098
Great show brother, lots oc good data. Do you ever have the detent blow out from the heavy steel projectiles?
Thanks brother. So far the seals has not blown on the HDP50. But it has happened with HDB68 and HDR68. But not with steel. I used aluminium balls in the HDR68 and Grimburg Jul in the HDB68 when it happened.
@@runerebel8441 Hi rune, how did you fix the HDB detent?
Hi my friend. I have not done anything with it. But I get the HDB working right if I use rubber type balls. If I use hard smooth balls I get jams. One day I will tinker with the HDB detent. Maybe put some tape on top of it to make it a bit thicker. I have been told that it works. Not sure since I have not tested this yet 🤔@@louie2020
Ouch that will surely hurt 😅
Hehehe😂. Yes I bet it would LOL😁😅
Do you get 17-19 joule from the regular restrictor or the 1mm drilled one?
From a regular restrictor when using steel balls or other heavy ammo.
Salut rune j'ai percé le restricteur à 1.5mm pense tu que sa soit une bonne idée?
Hi my friend. Yes it should still work fine with a 1,5mm hole.
Merci mon ami sa me rassure j'en ai 2 la première à 1mm et l'autre à 1.5mm sur ce hdp et sur le hdr.68 je l'ai percé à 1mm comme toi c'est puissant et régulier merci pour tes vidéos même si je comprend pas l'anglais 😂 tu assure rune
Thanks my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos. I have put french subtitles on all my videos. Dont they work? Cheers from Norway 😃@@RevoLution83
Non les sous-titres ne fonctionnent pas sur tes vidéo il faut peut-être aller sur UA-cam studio et modifier sa dans la section sous titres à gauche de ton écran ordinateur.
Ok. Thanks for the info. I will try and see if I get it to work 😃@@RevoLution83
is 21 joules enough for self defense? will it stop an agressor?
Hard to say. If its a normal guy and not on drugs it might stop him. But depends where you hit. A hit to the head or groint will stop an atacker. This is just a guess from my side since I have never tested this.
Why you asking?
Keep em coming Rune 🫡
Thank you Sean 😃🙏👍
Can I shoot without restrictor with more Jules and without valve block tuning?
Depends on the version you have. The 11 joule dont have any valveblock, so if you remove the restrictor you will get max power. The 7,5 joule version must have the valveblock removed for more power. The 7,5 joule dont have any restrictor in the CO2 tube. Wich version do you have?
@@runerebel8441 I have HDR 50 11 Jule version
@@runerebel8441 so if I remove this restrictor this means that I don't have to buy tuning kit for my rewolwer?
And this one don't destroy my HDR?
The HDR50 must have the restrictor in place. If not the pressure might cause the revolver to fart or dump all the CO2 in just one or twp shots. However the valveblock can be removed for a little more power. The restrictor can be drilled with a 1mm drillbit for even more effect. But dont drill larger then 1mm to make sure it works OK.@@rafabrzozowski9908
Varför tog du bort den saken i början?
For å få max gjennomstrømning av CO2 gjennom ventilen.
i wonder ,would it be better to use 12.7 mm steel balls , tighter fit in stock barrel , now in HD-24 tuning run ,i use 12.5 to my better choice 12.65mm steel balls !!!
They might give more power but will ruin the detent I think 🤔
@@runerebel8441 absolutely 100% correct sir !!! to get the most performance and longevity of the factory detents , i keep them well lubed with silicone gel and grease and keep my ammo well oiled with silicone oil ! in my shoulder holster rigs , i keep battle packs , i have extra 12g co2's and my container of projectiles are kept well lubed by adding a few drops of silicone oil to them . out of the 3 hdp's i keep , only one has a factory barrel in it , the other 2 have tuning barrels , one is aircraft aluminum and the other is the steel version from home defence-24 !!!!
i have several ideas for putting in metal detents in the future when they do finally fail though !
Thanks my friend. Yes its a very cool pistol. The detent is a weak point. The oldest HDP I had broke the detent. But HD-24 sells 3D printed detents so no problem to get hold of one 😃@@rick31869
@@runerebel8441thanks for the reply and info my brother !!!! i hear a lot that Gregorio's dentents from EAST COAST LESS LETHAL ARE PRETTY GOOD ALSO , in lil over 2 years , i have only had one go bad , i waste a lot of silicone oil i guess , but keeping detent and ammo well lubed i think really helps prevent problems !!!
Vad mäter du? Meter i sekunden?
Det kan inte vara fps då blir det lågt.
Antar mms? Mvh Johan
Mps menar jag
Jeg bruker fps da det er det kronografen måler i. Energien måler jeg ut etterpå. Mvh Rune@@johanwesterlund3098
Could you tell me where I can purchase the steel balls used in this video? If it’s available in the U.S. by the way
Hi. I got them from a friend. He bought them from aliexpress in China. I think maybe www.homedefence-24.com sell them also.
1st time viewer 😊 brilliant video 🍻💪
Thank you. Iam glad you like the video 😃
Is it possible to modify the Crosman Stronghold P7 pistol in the same way?
Not sure. It depends on what type of valve it has. I dont have that pistol, but if I get hold of one I can try and tune it.
Can we talk via mail? I can send you pictures or videos to solve my problems
great test buddy :)
Thanks my friend 😃
Will using steel balls on a stock HDP 50 damage it ?
The steel balls can damage the plastic barrel-detent, but new detents can be bought from www.homedefence-24.com
@@runerebel8441 what strong ammunition will work safely on the HDP 50 would clay balls or white glass slingshot balls work ?
I think the only safe ammo for it is rubber balls. But you must also remember to lube the pistol well. I use siliconespray and it seems to work fine.@@nightjoker2913
@@runerebel8441 if I used 12.5mm or .49 caliber steel balls on a stock HDP 50 would that damage the detent as well or not ? Thanks :)
Thats the size balls I use in my HDP50 also. Over time I guess the detent will be ruined, but lube the balls with some siliconeoil before loading. That should prevent detent failiure 🤔@@nightjoker2913
lol good vid my hdp50 surely goes trhu tin cans 30 meter distance
Thanks. Wow. Thats great power😃
hi rebel. If I understood correctly the 11 joule version does not have the valve block i.e. the horseshoe in the barrel. So you just need to remove the restrictor. Right?
Hi my friend. Yes that is correct. No valveblock in the 11 joule version of the HDP50. Just remove the restrictor from the CO2 tube for max power😃💥👍
@@runerebel8441 thanks. I have the 11 joule version, you make some nice videos
@@dieghito6999 Thank you. Iam glad you like my videos 😃
Min är på väg 11 j från polen. Längtar
Gratulerer. Tror du vil bli svært fornøyd med den 😃
Hur såg man att det är 11 och inte 7.5.? Den skjuter som en gud
Den i 7,5 joule har en F inne i et pentagram stemplet på høyre siden av pistolen, ganske nærme der serienummeret er. Du kan også se ned CO2 røret. Hvis det bare er et åpent hull så er det 7,5 joule utgaven. Hvis du kan se en sølvfarget restrictor så er det 11 joule versionen.@@johanwesterlund3098
Strange HDP restrictor can come out but not HDR with HDR problems
Yes its very strange... 🤔
Muy Muy Bueno......
Thank you my friend 😃
E X C E L L E N T !!!!
Thank you :)
8:45 the thing got stuck what i do?
The pressure indicator? Try open it. Guess something has jammed in it. But have you tried silikoneoil? Maybe it just needs some lube🤔
nono i try my best not to open it yet :D@@runerebel8441
i fixed it, the co2 capsule has to be empty in order to get it out.@@runerebel8441
No back yard??? 🤔
No. Cant use it out on my balcony either since it makes to much noise...
Hello Rune. Hope you are keeping well. I have just bought the new Umarex T4E TP50 Gen2. I can’t find a replacement suitable steel threaded barrel for it.
Umarex T4E TP50 Gen2 Semi-Auto Marker
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Hello my friend. I just watched your video. Nice shooting. I think you can use the standard tuning barrel for the HDP 50 that www.homedefence-24.com sells. Send him a mail and ask, then you know for sure 😃
@@runerebel8441 thank you I will.
Hello,
I have 2 questions.
1. What is the purpose of using the silicone spray, does it matter when doing this mod?.
2. I also saw in someone else's video that modding these devices for higher FPS, can render them unable to use the pepper balls, which may burst in the gun itself due to the extra pressure, have you tried these with pepper balls after removal of the restrictor?
Hello. The heatcore O-ring might blow out if you dont use any oil. Siliconeoil is best for the seals but tefloneoil can also be used. Pepperballs is not legal here so I have not tested this.
@@runerebel8441 thank you.
Doest the 7.5 joule have enough power to stop a attacker ?
With aluminum balls
If hit in the head or groint it might be enough power using the 7,5 joule version.
No
Nope