Blue .Barrymore uhm, minion for 2 mana with 3/2, even 2 juggles out of it are value compared to any other 2cost minion, so yeah, also there was WoW TCG, there is Magic the Gathering and other TCG games, why don't you cry about those?
If you watched the tournament, Hawkeye played extraordinarily well throughout it. I also wasn't entirely impressed with the Chinese player's deck choices, and they generally seemed pretty weak to Hunter. I would have been slightly peeved if the Juggler worked for him considering that lack of foresight. Plus I give auto-props to people who bring Shaman to tournaments, because it isn't really a class represented often in competitive decks anymore.
necroshey he is playing a fatigue mage deck the role of the death lords is to bring cards out of your opponents deck whilst preventing damage to your own hero. the paladin player should have played the equality>sword >knife juggler this ordering increase the number of juggles meaning he is more likely to kill the deathlords
It was a missplay imo, the priest should have hero powered one of the bombs first since the soulpriest was on 5 hp, guaranteed to survive a bomb hit and attack the second bomb. Doesn't change the fact that boom is silly.
That 4 damage is just so brutal. I just love how hilariously overpowered this dude is. But what's even funnier is that Blizzard just don't give a shit. They trollin' EVERYONE XD
Yotam Shitrit of course it is. yes, luck and the cards are important as well, but the ability to adjust to random situation you cant always control is what makes you a good player.
To all those complaining about Hearthstone being RNG and not skill. The skill in Hearthstone is understanding and playing the odds. I think we all know the games Poker and BlackJack. Both are games of randomness. You get your cards at random, but it's about understanding the RNG and playing around it. Just the same in Hearthstone. You need to understand the statistics of RNG from different cards. Anyone can build a deck and play based on what he/she knows, but only a pro can use RNG to shift his strategy in play.
***** Your description of poker is actually a perfect description of Hearthstone, it's exactly what the game is (besides missing one crucial aspect, the deckbuilding). In fact, it's a better description of Hearthstone than poker. And your Hearthstone description is much more apt for poker. Everything you say seems to refute your main point, that Hearthstone is pure luck. You last line is hilarious, because you're saying that the HS pros win by luck and aren't very good players...your comment is a complete nonsensical mess.
***** Poker sadly isnt a good comparision to Hearthstone. Take instead one that is a lot more similiar. Yu-Gi-Oh. For all its faults, Yu-Gi-Oh is a lot more determined by skill than Hearthstone is. The issue with Hearthstone isnt that its a card game. The issue is that its a card game that has added even more RNG, than it already has as a card game. Yu-Gi-Oh is largely devoid of actual RNG. Only a couple of "randomly discard" cards that noone ever plays anyway. In Yu-Gi-Oh, the only time you can win by luck is topdecking. However, even that isnt very common, now that the game has a lot of searchers anyway, and tends to have topdecking situations a lot less. In Hearthstone, there is RNGaros, Knife Juggler, Piloted Shredder, Sky Golem, Sneeds, Sylvanas, MC Tech, Deadly Shot, Crackle, Avenging wrath, etc. A lot of RNG cards, that can easily win you the game. And exactly because of these cards Hearthstone cannot be taken seriously as a competitive game, because lets face it, luck is far too much of a factor.
How many rounds of poker do pros play per championship? Hearthstone is done a 2/3, so randomness can plow your ass. Change the pro games to best 3/5 round robins (every player plays every other player) to eliminate randomness.
Tinkmaster: "Battlecry: Transform another random minion into a 5/5 Devilsaur or a 1/1 Squirrel." He also had the possibility to turn his recruit into a 5/5, thats why he kept it
+MountyMore yea of course. having a 5/5 againts a 5/7 minion which summons another legendary minion is a better option than having a 5/5 or 1/1 enemy which you can kill next turn. he's just dumb.
The song... I will fight with mana, mana, I will... hmm. Let me think. Hmm, thank you! I am justice. Hmm, thank you! I am retribution! Hmm, well met! Hmm, well played. I will fight with retribution! I will fight with honor. I will fight with justice. I will fight with justice! I have too many justice. I don't have enough justice. I'm out of justice! For justice... ...is yours.
The guy in the 1st clip is a fking genius holy.. even I was confused until I realized that he equalitied to kill of his quarter master to make room for another to bring all his guys to 3 hp out of explosive trap range AND have 30 damage for lethal.
Playing against a Paladin earlier today, turn 1 he throws down an argent squire. I coin into mad bomber, 1st bomb pops shield, 2nd bombs kills squire, 3rd bomb hits his face.....He concedes. It's all about the skill of the plays folks xD
Ugh, my worst loss in recent history has been at the hands of Dr Boom while I was doing a priest dominance daily. I have 4 minions on board, and my face - so 5 possible targets. I can't remember the exact details, but due to the minions I had out and a Holy Nova in hand, by attacking into a Boom Bot with my Cabal Shadow Priest (full health), any outcome other than 4 damage on the CSP was 'good' and would allow me to clean up without too much pain. That was a 5% chance, so extremely unlikely to happen. I attack into the Boom Bot. What happens? Of course, 4 damage to the CSP, killing it. While my opponent didn't steamroll me from there or anything, they did end up winning a close game - a game that I very likely would have won if I hadn't lost a 4/5 for free.
People complain about the RNG in this game, but doesn't it seem like sometimes it's not random and just that the worst possible outcome always happens? I get those extremely unlikely events more than the common, expected ones. It's like my unstable portals...either I'm getting a huge legendary or a 0-2 cost minion, nothing in between.
That mage shouldve seen it coming, paladins usually have equality and consecration to take out all minions in a turn even though he used knife juggler instead. Deathlords are good, but too much power always lead to losing in hearthstone
Maybe he could have gotten a 5/5 on is 1/1 minion if he didn´t transform the sneeds or his mind was so focused on that he forgot to kill his minion or he sucks
Don't worry, Blizzard will add even more RNG and even more unending animations. You know why? 'Cause the truth is, this game is made for casuals. It's for the people who are amazed by shiny animations and prefers playing rock-paper-scisors to chess. These casual players are in great numbers and they are ready to pay a lot of money. And since the money is the goal for Blizzard, they will add even more "breath-taking" random moments and even longer animations that make a lot of combinations virtually unplayable. Tournaments like this only add up to Hearthstone popularity among casuals, and that's all Blizzard need to know. But they will lie to us, ofc, claiming HS not being a game about RNG (as they did at their promo article), since it also helps casuals feel "smart" when they RNG their way to win. Don't ever expect this game to become a decent competitive discipline which demands higher skill to win a tournament.
that play at 3:05. he risked a 50/50 in order to save his 1/1. I'm pretty sure trading first is a superior play.
He also could’ve gotten a 5/5. But yeah, you’re probably right.
JUSTICE DEMANDS JUSTICE!!!
I'm all out of Justice! FOR JUSTICE!!!
I WILL FIGHT WITH MANA! at Wild Growth cast is the best.
MM THANK YOU I AM JUSTICE
Sherlock Man THANK JUSTICE I AM YOU MM?
FOR JUSTICE... is yours..
That $5000 play. It just makes me kind of unhappy
This is why I can't take Hearthstone seriously as a eSport game.
Blue .Barrymore uhm, minion for 2 mana with 3/2, even 2 juggles out of it are value compared to any other 2cost minion, so yeah, also there was WoW TCG, there is Magic the Gathering and other TCG games, why don't you cry about those?
If you watched the tournament, Hawkeye played extraordinarily well throughout it. I also wasn't entirely impressed with the Chinese player's deck choices, and they generally seemed pretty weak to Hunter. I would have been slightly peeved if the Juggler worked for him considering that lack of foresight. Plus I give auto-props to people who bring Shaman to tournaments, because it isn't really a class represented often in competitive decks anymore.
Not exactly $5,000 play. Hawkeye after beating Tiddlers had to face Kolento.
Maxwaehrens but in second he would win 10k, in 3/4rt he would win 5k... and first is 20k i guess, so is 5k-15k (Euro)
play
The paladin in the deathlord clip made so many bad plays
i don't think he could have played that turn any worse if he had tried and yet he still wins that's hearthstone for ya
Tom Green The mage had tons of Deathlords ... why even do that ? I think even if the paladin missplayed the mage still was worse ...
necroshey Ever heard of fatigue mage ?
necroshey he is playing a fatigue mage deck the role of the death lords is to bring cards out of your opponents deck whilst preventing damage to your own hero. the paladin player should have played the equality>sword >knife juggler this ordering increase the number of juggles meaning he is more likely to kill the deathlords
Tom Green "that's hearthstone for ya" implying the mage was any better?
THAT REMIX HOLY SHIT
Love your username and profile picture. Can't wait for season 2.
kuhaku never lose
Likewise, season 2 is going to be EPIC!
when will season 2 be aired? i cant wait for it
Season 2 should be out this Fall I believe
That end! XD The expression on their faces says it all!
That concede in the bonus clip killed me xd
It was a missplay imo, the priest should have hero powered one of the bombs first since the soulpriest was on 5 hp, guaranteed to survive a bomb hit and attack the second bomb. Doesn't change the fact that boom is silly.
ImWaveyforReal In casual we play fast thinking the 1/1000000 possibility wont happen
YouDontOwnAtShit
1/8*
Trust me it wasnt fun :/ ( It was my clip )
That 4 damage is just so brutal. I just love how hilariously overpowered this dude is. But what's even funnier is that Blizzard just don't give a shit. They trollin' EVERYONE XD
Hearthstone is a very competitive skill based game.
Kappa
Yotam Shitrit of course it is. yes, luck and the cards are important as well, but the ability to adjust to random situation you cant always control is what makes you a good player.
Yotam Shitrit 0/8, get better b8 m8.
John Smith Note the "KAPPA" at the end...
John Smith ***** Yes, it's competitive, but not skill based like other E-Sports games.
Yotam Shitrit Much like poker it is calculated-risk.
That tinkmaster scene. The guy was definitely a thrill-seeker by not killing his minion first.
To all those complaining about Hearthstone being RNG and not skill. The skill in Hearthstone is understanding and playing the odds.
I think we all know the games Poker and BlackJack. Both are games of randomness. You get your cards at random, but it's about understanding the RNG and playing around it. Just the same in Hearthstone. You need to understand the statistics of RNG from different cards.
Anyone can build a deck and play based on what he/she knows, but only a pro can use RNG to shift his strategy in play.
***** Your description of poker is actually a perfect description of Hearthstone, it's exactly what the game is (besides missing one crucial aspect, the deckbuilding). In fact, it's a better description of Hearthstone than poker. And your Hearthstone description is much more apt for poker. Everything you say seems to refute your main point, that Hearthstone is pure luck. You last line is hilarious, because you're saying that the HS pros win by luck and aren't very good players...your comment is a complete nonsensical mess.
*****
Yeh, Nox is right. Nothing you said has any merit or thought behind it.
*****
Poker sadly isnt a good comparision to Hearthstone. Take instead one that is a lot more similiar. Yu-Gi-Oh. For all its faults, Yu-Gi-Oh is a lot more determined by skill than Hearthstone is. The issue with Hearthstone isnt that its a card game. The issue is that its a card game that has added even more RNG, than it already has as a card game. Yu-Gi-Oh is largely devoid of actual RNG. Only a couple of "randomly discard" cards that noone ever plays anyway.
In Yu-Gi-Oh, the only time you can win by luck is topdecking. However, even that isnt very common, now that the game has a lot of searchers anyway, and tends to have topdecking situations a lot less. In Hearthstone, there is RNGaros, Knife Juggler, Piloted Shredder, Sky Golem, Sneeds, Sylvanas, MC Tech, Deadly Shot, Crackle, Avenging wrath, etc. A lot of RNG cards, that can easily win you the game. And exactly because of these cards Hearthstone cannot be taken seriously as a competitive game, because lets face it, luck is far too much of a factor.
Ncyphen Thanks for the bullshit.
How many rounds of poker do pros play per championship?
Hearthstone is done a 2/3, so randomness can plow your ass.
Change the pro games to best 3/5 round robins (every player plays every other player) to eliminate randomness.
That Kappa face from Frodan though
3:00 why not sac the 1/1 for the 100% possiblity
+Fatih Yıldız Right. French idiot.
Tinkmaster:
"Battlecry: Transform another random minion into a 5/5 Devilsaur or a 1/1 Squirrel."
He also had the possibility to turn his recruit into a 5/5, thats why he kept it
+MountyMore yea of course. having a 5/5 againts a 5/7 minion which summons another legendary minion is a better option than having a 5/5 or 1/1 enemy which you can kill next turn. he's just dumb.
I AM OUT OF *JUSTICE*
Frodan's facial reactions to Monk is hilarious! Best part of the video!
Frodan and Mr. Dong casting that tourny were hysterical. 10/10
Frodan's face after Monk's comment is priceless.
That commentary by Monk really made my day =D
Только я подумал: что-то давно не видно Трольдена, надо проверить и ура!
Спасибо, что стараешься для нас!
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL JUSTICE
seeing that knife juggler game live was quite fun indeed
"Is that Trump in the Ferrari?"
Top 5 Mario I dont get it? Why were they even talking about racism?
That $5000 tournament clip is the reason why hearthstone will never be considered as a serious Esport game. All about skill.
And JUSTICE.
The first one was like the best BM strat ever.
The song...
I will fight with mana, mana,
I will... hmm.
Let me think.
Hmm, thank you!
I am justice.
Hmm, thank you!
I am retribution!
Hmm, well met!
Hmm, well played.
I will fight with retribution!
I will fight with honor.
I will fight with justice.
I will fight with justice!
I have too many justice.
I don't have enough justice.
I'm out of justice!
For justice...
...is yours.
Nice episode Trolden , love you
Gabe Newell 4-1 is 3 Half-Life 3 confirmed.
No Gaben, your decision was "Love you > 3"
2+2 that's 4, minus 1 that 3 quick math
this comment just foresaw a very bad joke from 2017
wow the part about unleash and quartermaster was hilarious
this is so funny i can always coun't on watching a funny and lucky moments for a laugh
Спасибо, Андрей, за позитив!) Удачи тебе во всем!
I think we are just being very racist. "Is that Trump in the Ferrari?"
what was that about?
***** I think something along the line "All Asian guys look the same"
Boobs ...
argh blargh But why would Trump say that? We can see, he's sitting right there
RyM3ks LMAO I actually thought trump was there for a second and then I realized it's a follow up to the joke
Holy shit "Is that trump in the ferrari" is one of the best commentator quotes i've ever heard.
5:29 is the best moment of this vid, did his earpiece have a mind of its own?
the song at 2:35 was disgusting to listen to for some reason, please never play that song again
I'M OUT OF JUSTICE!
I have too many *JUSTICE*
I don't have enough JUSTICE!
it have to be so, it's cancer music
I have no idea what happened there. I was too entranced by the song.
I can't stop watching the first clip.
"eSport" my ass. The guy lost $5000 because of RNG, thats not even funny.
BUT HOW CAN ONE LOSE WHAT ONE HAS NOT HAD YET?!?!?!?
stevenan93
LOLOLOL
stevenan93
Walk into Mordor?
And the other guy won 5k because of rng,it affects both.
He wasn't destined to win in the first place, as it was very unlikely he would hit twice.
5:30 the earphone was like "fuck this shit I'm out"
5:30
That earpiece is like "f*ck this racist, I'm outta here".
omg the look on frodans face i was laughing so hard lol
These are so good. Keep them coming!
I'm binge watching these episodes.
Well played by that Paladin.
that first game was CRAZY..
I wonder how bad he would've felt if that Tinkmaster turned his own 1/1 into a squirrel,and then he notices he couldve ensured that Tink hits Sneeds.
best episode yet honest to god i split my sides
That look at the end was fucking priceless
"I'm out of justice!" LOOOOOL
What is the song that plays during the first clip? I feel like I've heard it in an old game before, I just can figure out what.
THIS WAS SO FUNNY!!! You're doing a great job trolden :)
why was the card censored?
Funnies episode so far !
The guy in the 1st clip is a fking genius holy.. even I was confused until I realized that he equalitied to kill of his quarter master to make room for another to bring all his guys to 3 hp out of explosive trap range AND have 30 damage for lethal.
Last clip : Wrong order. nuff said
Dr. Balanced 3: The revenge of the revenge of the revenge!
Great episode as always.
That last clip shows what hearthstone really is. A RNG casual game
It shows that Dr Balance has to be nerfed :D
Curse the Boom!
Could've collaborated with the Chinese guy to get the Ferrari. Anyway earphone dropped at 5:29 LOL
These videos just aren't the same without the epic sax.
I loved that ending!
Never Gets old
#BonusClip
thanks mate, almost skipped it
Playing against a Paladin earlier today, turn 1 he throws down an argent squire. I coin into mad bomber, 1st bomb pops shield, 2nd bombs kills squire, 3rd bomb hits his face.....He concedes. It's all about the skill of the plays folks xD
2:36 Song name - JUSTISE Hearthstone song
That sneeds on turn 3, I would have ran the guy in to make sure sneeds was no longer sneeds.
Ugh, my worst loss in recent history has been at the hands of Dr Boom while I was doing a priest dominance daily.
I have 4 minions on board, and my face - so 5 possible targets. I can't remember the exact details, but due to the minions I had out and a Holy Nova in hand, by attacking into a Boom Bot with my Cabal Shadow Priest (full health), any outcome other than 4 damage on the CSP was 'good' and would allow me to clean up without too much pain. That was a 5% chance, so extremely unlikely to happen.
I attack into the Boom Bot. What happens?
Of course, 4 damage to the CSP, killing it. While my opponent didn't steamroll me from there or anything, they did end up winning a close game - a game that I very likely would have won if I hadn't lost a 4/5 for free.
People complain about the RNG in this game, but doesn't it seem like sometimes it's not random and just that the worst possible outcome always happens? I get those extremely unlikely events more than the common, expected ones. It's like my unstable portals...either I'm getting a huge legendary or a 0-2 cost minion, nothing in between.
Why was the name censored in the first clip ?
Dat uther remix... osom justice!!!
F O R S E N B O Y S
Are you planing something special fot your 100th episode that is coming up quite sin?
Even asians think all asians look alike. xD
Also, it was a ferrari cake.
I loved that paladin song XD
I think I remember hearing the JUSTICE! remix somewhere...
wait what ferrari? what the fuck they win a ferrari?
only chinese players could win it, i guess they didnt want to ship it to Europe
No its bevause the chinese lost every tournament, so they wanted to give them something big if they win
:)
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK A FERRARI IS PART OF THE TOURNAMENT PRIZE?
Idunknowyou Brown Well, you're still not Chinese.
Key I am Chinese.
*I'M OUT OF JUSTICE!!!* hahahahah PogChamp
haha 5:30 he is losing his earplug ^^
THAT JUSTICE SONG
i love how when he says "i think we're just being really racist" his headset falls off
nice episode again nice Trolden
Not even Monk's earpiece wants anything to do with that bad joke.
when the best video is the hidden one at the end there is a problem
The $5000 scene. God, this fucking game...
Hi , van you tell me thé names of the song trolden use ?
Skillstone right?
"Oh he's so bad, oh he's so ba-- OH THAT'S LETHAL!!!"
Get rekt, casters.
Will you upload that justice remix?
Thats from an other Vid on YT, he dont own the remix
"Is that Trump in the ferrari?"
Probably. That Ferrari will take him straight to ValueTown
what is that paladin somg and where can i download it.
that second clip got miss played so much
That mage shouldve seen it coming, paladins usually have equality and consecration to take out all minions in a turn even though he used knife juggler instead.
Deathlords are good, but too much power always lead to losing in hearthstone
Missed a nice clip with forsen, where he loses to aggro warrior and have to open 40 packs Kappa Keepo
What is the name of the music in the credit ?
At 3:00, why didn't he run his guy into the Sneeds first to make sure it was transformed instead of his 1/1 being transformed?
Maybe he could have gotten a 5/5 on is 1/1 minion if he didn´t transform the sneeds or his mind was so focused on that he forgot to kill his minion or he sucks
probably a greed play more than a misplay
"I think we're just really racist" and his earpiece was like, "Awww hell naah! I'm out!" 5:26
Can someone please tell me the title of the song that began at 5:39?
What's with the censor bar?
Who won at 3:50
Neither
Hawkeye
I think me meant the round.
Draw
Don't worry, Blizzard will add even more RNG and even more unending animations. You know why? 'Cause the truth is, this game is made for casuals. It's for the people who are amazed by shiny animations and prefers playing rock-paper-scisors to chess. These casual players are in great numbers and they are ready to pay a lot of money. And since the money is the goal for Blizzard, they will add even more "breath-taking" random moments and even longer animations that make a lot of combinations virtually unplayable. Tournaments like this only add up to Hearthstone popularity among casuals, and that's all Blizzard need to know. But they will lie to us, ofc, claiming HS not being a game about RNG (as they did at their promo article), since it also helps casuals feel "smart" when they RNG their way to win.
Don't ever expect this game to become a decent competitive discipline which demands higher skill to win a tournament.
Amen to that! I like this game but I don't take it seriously. MTG is way better in terms of strategy and I'm actually inclined to put my money in it.
*Uploaded 15 minutes ago* I feel so up-to-date
where is Kolento vs Pagle ?
he didn't sacrifice his 1/1 before Overspark because, why? Why does he even stream?
lol totally missed the 3rd one cuz the music was to good xD
moment with ferrari is awesome))