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I somewhat miss Samsung messages because in true Google fashion, Google messages still is bare bones. On the other hand i understand why Google would want a truly universal messages app in Android.
I mean recently, they've made tons of changes to google messages, in the last year alone its gotten so much better, its not amazing and is still basic like you said, but much improved over how barebones it was a year ago.
@jspring86 I feel like they would only do that if samsung told them to. But since most people will just leave it as default when first setting up the phone, I highly doubt they'll care. Plus Google is similar enough to imessage to where those who are use to it wouldn't want to switch & lose those functionalities
I pin some conversations and Samsung Messages has a nice separation from the rest of the conversation. Google doesn't do that and it feels more cramped to me. I just wish this wasn't the case, the only thing I didn't like about Samsung was no emoji reactions and clicking See More for long messages. Otherwise, it was perfect for me. I bought a Samsung phone, not a Pixel.
I'd prefer it the other way around, to have some options from Google Messages integrated into the Samsung Messages (like running RCS via Google Messages instead but instead the Samsung Messages), but to make it optional of course, so us people who don't want to have anything locked in with Google, don't have to enable it at all...
@@mavindraganga3398 Why would Samsung want to pay its employees money to do work for something that they don’t get any money from?!?!? Can u do a job for me that gets you paid but instead u give all the money to me plz?!?!? Did maybe you post backwards what u wanted to say pal, or u really think that Samsung should spend time working on something that gets Google paid?!? Genuinely curious as to why any1 l thought that was a good idea?!?!? (U have like 9 likes)
Google doesn't handle contacts as well as Samsung. Ie: in Samsung messages my "favorites" are listed first in the contacts list. Google doesn't do this. You must scroll down and find each contact. Favorites are the people I contact everyday. Much more convenient to list them at the top of the list
I prefer Samsung Messages over Google. I went ahead and switched to Google to adapt to the changes coming. Since Samsung is removing RCS the features of their app need to be integrated correctly into Google. At the end of the day we're having to give up customization features that the phones are built around for daily use and convenience. If it was a rarely used app it wouldn't be as big a deal.
So samsung messaging currently has RCS but it's being removed? I'm still confused about all this. Especially since every time I've sent media through samsung messaging app the quality is always poor when it gets to the other end or i can't send a video cause the file is too large
@@ANewEvilRising - No. Samsung messages uses SMS which is now too limited in this day and age. It appears that Samsung whose OS is Android is going to move to RCS. Since Android is developed by Google and Google is going to RCS, Samsung has little choice but to change too. Some people think this is a reason for Samsung to develop its own OS as Apple has done. At this point, that might be a major, if not impossible, challenge for Samsung.
@lynneanderson4255 so really there's no choice but to switch to Google messaging app? If we stick with samsungs then what? Only downside is it will be very bare bones? That's not much of a issue at all for me who only sends text and that's it. Is security going to be an issue?
@@ANewEvilRising - Good question. I think the deal is Samsung's support for it will stop in January and there won't be anymore updates. I think. I'm really not happy about this change because I don't like Google messages. The hope is that the features that make Samsung messages preferable will be incorporated into the currently barebones and unattractive Google messages to upgrade it.
@desi579 neither do i. I live by logic and necessity. The changes didn't hinder my life in any way shape or form. Just minor inconveniences. Few more clicks 😆
The biggest thing also is the copy function. You can't copy certain parts of your text. For instance, if you receive a tracking number and you just want to smart select that you can't. You have to copy the entire message on Google messages then click around and delete what you need. Samsung messages no problem. At least make it recognize when there's a tracking number and if you hit copy just copy that. Just a thought
1000% the copy function straight from the notification banner is so clutch. Trying to copy text or memorize one time use codes... Google messages is just... a child in comparison. Like congrats, you can do the basics🙄
It was a rush job and they (Google) will not make it any better. They have everyone where they want them, by the balls! Convenient, forget it. Instead of moving forward, we move backward with Giigle! Sorry, I call it like I see it.
It seems so weird to me they have updated they're messages icon for one ui7, and include it in their advertising, yet treat the service like the ugly step child compared to Google messages. I love Google messages, I'm overjoyed RCS is finally catching on (almost all my contacts have it turned on now), I love native quality photos/videos, I also love animated emojis and emoji reactions. It's just too bad Samsung has seemingly dropped the most important function for their proprietary messaging app to be worth using.
It makes no sense to me either. Especially these Samsung phones being marketed as a premium device, yet native apps, especially an essential app like a messaging service being pushed to the side purposely, all in favour of another brand's product. It is almost as if Google is providing Samsung some sort of financial benefit to push users to use their software...
@jack11224 it's the outcome of capitalism. One or two players. Android was open, then after winning, google closed it. There is no excuse for this. Rcs is handled by the os, not the app. Google was going to open it up, then decided not to. Hell, they block rcs on bootloader unlocked phones. They killed any fun Android had.
@@jack11224 Or, or.....Samsung are experiencing a downturn in the chip making sector, undergoing some management changes, and generally having the bad time companies go through from time to time. So everything is on the table to get back on course, including staffing cuts for things like messaging apps that really aren't required when a replacement is just sitting right there.
This just pisses me off. You shouldn't be able to take away something that was there when I bought the phone! I love Samsung messaging. I do use the RCS function. Being able to put personal photos as background for texts is essential and Google doesn't do that. I'm never going to use Google messaging. Don't trust Google and avoid as much as possible.
I have an old phone. Lost Messenger +. Cannot afford new phone....i am a senior citizen....just had to replace hearing aides. So tired of this. Was told i need a newer phone. Not at this time...
@MuamerRastic I think as a South Korean firm, they are being bullied by Google, Microsoft and even Western government operatives. This is the only way Samsung is able to preserve it's Western markets without being sanctioned and dragged. Very dirty tactics at play.
Just another way of Google getting your information. You'll be messaging someone about toilet roll and all you will see on adverts is toilet rolls..... 😂😂😂
My favorite feature on Samsung messages was the private notifications setting. So if you look at your notifications, it will only show the sender, not the message contents (it simply says "New Message"). On GM, there's no setting, so you can see the message content. It's helpful if someone is holding your phone for any reason or it's connected to the car.
You can prevent the message details from showing on your lock screen: Open 'Settings' on your phone. Tap on 'Notifications'. Tap on 'Lock screen notifications'. Turn 'On' Lock screen notifications. Select 'Hide content'.
@bs2162 yea I've always had that set, but I was meaning in the notifications panel. So when the phone is unlocked and say you're in an app or on the home screen, and swipe down (or use a shortcut) to your notifications panel, you'll still see the contents there. It's a different setting. And that setting for the lock screen doesn't fix the unlocked notifications panel
@@triceb890 Sorry, I thought you meant on the lock screen. It will probably be ignored by Google, but why not request this feature in a review on the Google Messages app page on Google Play Store. Explain how it works on Samsung Messages, and stress how important you feel this feature is and that it should be added to Google Messages..
@@triceb890 Sorry, I thought you meant on the lock screen. You will probably be ignored by Google, but try asking for this feature in the review section on Google Play Store, or on the Feedback section from within the app. Explain how it worked in Samsung Messages and stress how important you think this feature is.
Samsung Message is way better and I will continue to use it with or without RCS. People are just going to get that link to see the higher-resolution media that I send them.
Made the change a month ago. It's also working well with my Ultra Watch. I think it will get better over time. I really like seeing a reply is coming to me in google messages.Thanks for posting!
I've been using Google Messages for sometime now. I like it. I used Samsung Messages in the past on my older devices but switched over to Google probably 3+ years ago.
Categories, custom ringtones/notification alerts for group texts, custom wallpaper, timed messages, AR emoji, samsung app integration, are all reasons I'm not moving off of my Samsung Messages or S23U. I havent been able to see real time replies for a while now with Samsung Messages, so its not a big deal to not have it moving forward, compared to the customizable things i love that make each text with my contacts unique
The thing that drives me nuts the most is that Google messages on Samsung does not allow you to change the notification sound for incoming messages. I know you can change it on a per contact basis, but I want all texts to be one sound and all other notifications to be another sound. Works fine on my Pixel, but not on my Samsung.
Being able to easily see all shared attachments is a huge thing for me, and Google messages doesn't have that functionality. I don't download every photo I get, and sometimes I need to go back and find one.
I used to use Samsung Messages for the customized backgrounds. Since i started using Google Messages, ive warmed up to it. I like being able to see when iphones are typing, i can schedule send, i can do reactions, gifs, etc. Also Google filters out & blocks spam texts.
I have text messages from my deceased son from before he died 3 years ago and I can't get those switched over from Samsung messages to Google messages, any suggestions? I DON'T want to lose those as I read them often and they bring me comfort...TIA
Read receipts and reacts already work without rcs. Google messages translates reacts from non-smartphones/iphones without rcs, and read reciepts are a feature or sms
What I don't like about Google behavior... Is that lot of time they kill a good app or project... I don't hope it will happen to this rcs system too! I'm rocking the Samsung rcs btw
Samsung messages also changes the message icon to match the current theme icons being used. Google messages just has a blue voice/chat box which stands out like a sore thumb in the theme.
A HUGE benefit to Google Messages that yiu failed to mention is that many of us have MacBooks and Android phones. Google Messages has a Chrome client, allowing synchronized messaging on your Apple laptop. I like Samsung Messaging better, but totally need the sync ability with Apple.
@@jspring86After I got a Mac the Samsung phone stayed in service for 6 more months. And then the iPhone 16 got released. The integration of MacOS and iOS is just too good that the old phone didn’t make sense for me anymore. I guess that many Mac users will do the same after some time.
@@Netzwerkdose I dont disagree...completely. Was an iPhone user for many, many, many years. Got real tired of Apple charging me $1000+ a year to purchase the same phone hardware with a new name. No folding, no smaller size. No choice. Android has been a joy to customize. I do miss Airdrop as I am a photographer, but I found an android app that is almost as good. I think there would would be more people like me if they took time to solve any differences.
@@jspring86 You can argue that and you are probably right, but I think its because they dont realize how little difference there is if you take time to find solutions like this for any gaps. I hated Windows, and I came to resent Apple for the iPhone 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, and 6 hardware being the same as iPhone 5 and 4. Im will no longer pay big money to not have a hardware choice, customization choice, and software choices.
I mean anyone has to pay to get RCS certified by the carriers thats just the business. Google had to pay too. Samsung decided it's cheaper to just move to Google Messages then to pay to get their own app certified. Google is a close partner for them they see it as a win win
I'm just annoyed Google messages forces you to log in with an email address. It says that you can skip that process and Even lets you do so the first time you download it. But eventually when you open up the app you will get a screen prompting you to log in and you will not be able to get past this screen without doing so. Even closing and opening the app will cause the screen to reappear. The only solution is to uninstall it completely and reinstall. I'm not doing that every time Google decides it wants to collect my information.
I used messages+ and I was able to change the vibration notification when I got a text so it was different from all of my other notifications. Now that I felt forced to switch to Google messages all of my notifications are the same and I can't tell if I got a email or someone messsges me while it's in my pocket which is very annoying.
The sorting categories is the big one for me! I use Google messages now because RCS support is a requirement for me now. Now I don't have to use other apps for encrypted conversations and better posting experience... but man I miss sorting categories!
Not sure you mentioned this but in a text convo, Samsung allows you to view all images shared during the convo in one location. I used that a lot. Similar to Microsoft Teams allowing you to view all files shared in a particular chat. If Google messages does that, I've never figured out how.
These smartphones are so complex that even after 20 years of using them I still learn something new. I hope Google messages incorporates all the features of Samsung messages we're losing when migrating.
It doesn't sit right with me that you are showing an OTP code for your google account with a number and timestamp on it. I'm no security expert, but this seems inadvisable.
I don't buy a Google phone because I like the Samsung product, brand. And most importantly it's NOT google. Did google buy out samsung, Or is Samsung just selling out. Not happy about this change, nor am I happy about the carriers doing the sellout either. Maybe i should flip to apple, or are they doing this too.
I think as a South Korean firm, Samsung are being bullied by Google, Microsoft. This is the only way Samsung is able to preserve it's Western markets without being sanctioned and dragged. Very dirty tactics at play
IPhone security is arguably worse because there's fewer of each device type making it easier to write specific binaries because there's less device types to have to keep track of
I don't fully think Samsung is exiting... on my Flip6 it asks if I want to use Chat Settings and that info and stuff is sent to Google and in the about section it directs to links to Google about RCS via them. I think they are ditching carrier RCS but implementing some RCS via Jibe. My app version on my Flip6 is 15.7.01.3. RCS via this worked with Google Messages users and iPhone RCS. My S24 was not the same higher version and only offered advanced messaging via ATT RCS.
Thanks for the insight! I'm on T-Mobile myself. Switching back to Samsung Messages after hearing Jeff's video, I still have RCS features so.. Hmm... Ah, T-Mobile US, that is..
@@jspring86 So today is Jan 18th - I had a random idea and tested it out. I'm on AT&T. I did a factory reset of my Flip6 (my eSIM was on my Pixel 9 Pro) and did not copy anything over. Before moving my eSIM, immediately after setting up I installed Samsung Messages and went in and made it the default before ever even opening Google Messages. I transferred my eSIM over, restarted my phone, opened up Samsung Messages and received the RCS notice to opt-in (the version that uses Jibe, not AT&T Advanced Messaing) and behold it auto-registered me for RCS no issues. I really feel that there is more going on with Samsung Messages than we are being told with the push to Google Messages when it's apparent the standalone one is registering via Jibe. I don't have reactions but me and anyone I message rarely use them.
what I have noticed with RCS. In google message you can not send a video in a group conversation. you would need to send the videos or Gifs individually. presently I can do that with samsung message. but if they phase it out. you can not do that.
Apple users were having a hard time getting ahold of me through their message app, and the fix for them was send as sms when rcs isn't available. It's in apples message app settings.
Silencing notifications is a chore on Google messages. You have to effectively block and report as spam which feels like an extreme because those messages may have some use like bank statements, but don't wanna be bothered by the notifs. In Samsung messages, you can simply mute a contact
I use google messages for how easy it is to setup and use. But I miss some of the power user features like organizing chats and pinning chats. RCS is just too important to have.
Apart from in the future them adding support to add in samsung notes, i use google apps over samsung stock apps. Google messages is quick, bigger files supported means no "message not sent file size too large"
I switched to Google messages when I got my S23 just for the reactions. Because on Samsung messages, when someone reacts, it came through as a text message. But I do miss the customization of Samsung messages.
Bring message categories back to Google Messages and be able to use samsung emoji, also if I want to share photos or videos open up samsung gallery or give the the option as a default. Not everyone uses Google photos. I already shared with Samsung Members.
I used to use an app on an old phone called Messages+ and it had th3 ability to schedule when a message would be sent to someone so if I wanted to send something in the middle of the night I didn't have to send it right then and there. You can type something in and save it as a draft but that only lets you save a single message and you have to go back later and send it so if for some reason you're sleeping in really late the message won't be sent in the morning if you want it to be sent in the morning
Over a decade i use Google messages as I'm use to the lay out customise the settings but over time the privacy. Issue is a big deal, having said that I started samsung messaging and found that it's useful efficient and customised such a dark mode integrated to calender and notes which make life bit more perfect for every day use. Yes I switched Samsung message
One reason I didn't switch to google messaging app is the receiver needs to have an active data/internet connection in order for them to receive my message which I think is timely crucial and some of our contacts has no constant connection to wifi/data.
Samsung lost out on the market of messaging when iMessages took over with the games the animations and such especially when a Samsung backed away from the customization of how messages look but if they would have implemented things like games video messaging and just an interactive UI in general it would have been much better
Only thing i can say Google messages had on Samsung messenger is RCS for high quality media. Now that they are getting rid of RCS I hope they figure something out for high quality media at least. Also they NEED a trash category. Ive deleted conversations by accident a few times and or deleted a convo only to realize i needed something out of that conversation. Its always nice to know its not immediate deleted with the trash category.
I wish google messages supported proper screen display on the zfold6 why cant the conversation span between both halfs on the large screen. Its so annoying to type and have to look at the right side of the screen then the center or miss clicking on a contact when just scrolling messages
I hope google messages will eventually allow me to apply my Samsung themes that I've purchased from the theme store. It worked great with Samsung messages.
Wow never knew about categories. I've had my phone for 2 years and just learned this lol. I like that I can pin my most frequent contacts. Google didn't have that last time I checked.
It hurts, but it all makes sense when you imagine that Samsung is probably being bullied by Google and Microsoft. This is the only way Samsung is able to preserve it's Western markets without being sanctioned and dragged. Very dirty tactics at play
I have a galaxy S22+ and until recently I was using Verizon message app which they shutdown. In my opinion was VZM was better than both. Now I am using google messages. I really do not like the lack of customization. It took me today to find out how to apply a specific notification sound to Google Messages. I have been trying to figure it out. It should not have taken this long. It wasn't straightforward. I loved the way Verizon allowed you to customize your background and message bubbles. It seems that Google has behind the scenes pressured both Verizon and Samsung into abandoning RCS.
I'm happy I'm not from US, so as the entire rest of the world, I also don't care about RCS nor the thing Apple was doing with their messagin nor the Apple's support or RCS as in the rest of the world we mostly use alternatives like WhatsApp and the default messaging app is almost exclusively being used for SMS only. On the aesthetic side of the things, I mostly like the uniformity of the icons for the default apps and on Samsung at least those are quite good, so the first thing is that I'm not willing to break the aesthetic of my home screen by changing my default texint app to Google - and that's just the aesthetic side of the thing. Without the RCS being involved, Google Messages don't really have any other upside over regular texting and being outside the US, RCS is not really important as we have a lot of apps like WhatsApp that are mostly being used for the same purpose and it's not worse in any way (and if you bring up the privacy concerns, it's just a matter of which company you prefer to use your data, and it neither here or there). I guess the issue in the US is how most people just stick to default apps for some reason, despite of any other options and this is not so much the case in the rest of the world 🤷♂️ That said, I wouldn't have mind if the choose to integrate Google Messages somehow into the default Samsung Messages app (because the Samsung's app is simply so much better that I would consider it beyond any comparison - but here's this video, so I'll accept comparison is possible when you really try) 😉 Another thing is that I'm sick from even the idea of my regular text message being tied to any ecosystem - Apple fans might be ok with it, but I'm not and it's a part of the reasons why I'm not an Apple fan - in the same way I don't want my messages being captive by Google and their mess of attempt to have an ecosystem of some kind as well. So many apps and services are getting tossed out into the famous Google's graveyard when you just start to get used to them, that I'm not even planning to risk trying the Google Messages (having my important email depending on Google is already a risk big enough I'm having with a single company) - I did actually try it once by accident - they are now scamming Samsung users by showing there's an upgrade option for the app, where most people will just think it's a simple update without giving it a second thought, and it changes your default app to the Google one and it replaces the app on each screen or folder where it was saved, so for the average user it's not so simple to change it back... If they retire the Samsung Messages entirely, I will really check other options as I won't get stuck with Google's lesser app for sure... Also, although you typically need a Google account when using Android anyway, you could use Samsung Messages or basically any other texting app without the Google account, but the Google messages are more like the Gmail, so if there's any issue with Google servers or your Google account, you will likely be locked out of your Google messages as well, where with regular texting apps like Samsung Messages this is not the case...
I dont like how i cant keep background apps open and text back thru the notification bubble. Or hard press to create a floating icon of messages while fully enjoying Netflix or YT.
Im going miss samsung messages. Been using it since I've had my samsung note 5. But every since I've used Google messages, I can't deny it is actually better
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Does Google messages still have the timed messages? I use that constantly
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hey jeff where can i find download link for this wallpaper please?
I like the way Samsung messages looks because it's actually proper dark mode
Indeed!!
That's what's kept me using it till this day. I also do to to try to have a sort of Google to Samsung application balance. Lol
@MrCrossaa21 same, i don't mind using both Google and Samsung apps but samsung messages just looks better and has better overall chat features
Same here
The native Samsung apps do look good that's for sure.
Samsung Messages is just so much better. It just feels like Samsung gave up.
I disagree google messages feels more natural
Agree
Verizon messages was much better than both. I switched to textra. No ads.
Google probably paid samsung to kill samsung messages
I hate Google messages. Samsung messages was perfect the way it was.
I somewhat miss Samsung messages because in true Google fashion, Google messages still is bare bones. On the other hand i understand why Google would want a truly universal messages app in Android.
Yeah it's pro and cons for sure. Maybe they can add some of the Sam messages functionality in together!
@jspring86 maybe they will let manufacturers reskin/use their own ui within google messages
I mean recently, they've made tons of changes to google messages, in the last year alone its gotten so much better, its not amazing and is still basic like you said, but much improved over how barebones it was a year ago.
@jspring86 I feel like they would only do that if samsung told them to. But since most people will just leave it as default when first setting up the phone, I highly doubt they'll care. Plus Google is similar enough to imessage to where those who are use to it wouldn't want to switch & lose those functionalities
bro how to separate chats from ad messages in Messager app its so confusing to look for chats?
I have a Samsung phone; I want Samsung messages! If I wanted Google messages, I would purchase a Pixel!
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
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Do you use gmail or samsung mail?
Samsungs messaging app is fucking garbage always has been
I use Gmail. But i still pefrer samsung messages @@BaardFigur
I pin some conversations and Samsung Messages has a nice separation from the rest of the conversation. Google doesn't do that and it feels more cramped to me. I just wish this wasn't the case, the only thing I didn't like about Samsung was no emoji reactions and clicking See More for long messages. Otherwise, it was perfect for me. I bought a Samsung phone, not a Pixel.
Yeah the pinning does look a lot nicer in Samsung
Same here!
Having groups and pinning threads is the main reason I use Samsung messages, I'm going to miss it
You can pin messages in Google. Both for a single recipient and groups.
Google if you're watching please integrate some of those Samsung message features in your message app
They should buy samsung messages and incorporate rcs and let samsung run it and give google all the money for us using it
I'd prefer it the other way around, to have some options from Google Messages integrated into the Samsung Messages (like running RCS via Google Messages instead but instead the Samsung Messages), but to make it optional of course, so us people who don't want to have anything locked in with Google, don't have to enable it at all...
They probably won’t since they aren’t getting money for it. Google is known for quitting things if it doesn’t make them quick money.
They won't. Because they'll have the monopoly. When you have a monopoly there's no reason to improve
@@mavindraganga3398 Why would Samsung want to pay its employees money to do work for something that they don’t get any money from?!?!?
Can u do a job for me that gets you paid but instead u give all the money to me plz?!?!?
Did maybe you post backwards what u wanted to say pal, or u really think that Samsung should spend time working on something that gets Google paid?!? Genuinely curious as to why any1 l thought that was a good idea?!?!? (U have like 9 likes)
Google doesn't handle contacts as well as Samsung. Ie: in Samsung messages my "favorites" are listed first in the contacts list. Google doesn't do this. You must scroll down and find each contact. Favorites are the people I contact everyday. Much more convenient to list them at the top of the list
I know, it's a big difference and I think many people will agree.
You can put you Google contacts as favorites which will appear on top of your contact list
I'll give you messages doesn't use favorites but I simply open the contacts app to text favorites instead of messages
You can pin up to 10 message threads to be at the top.
I prefer Samsung Messages over Google. I went ahead and switched to Google to adapt to the changes coming. Since Samsung is removing RCS the features of their app need to be integrated correctly into Google. At the end of the day we're having to give up customization features that the phones are built around for daily use and convenience. If it was a rarely used app it wouldn't be as big a deal.
Right!
It's a heavily used app and the change is going to piss so many of their customers off, like me.
So samsung messaging currently has RCS but it's being removed? I'm still confused about all this. Especially since every time I've sent media through samsung messaging app the quality is always poor when it gets to the other end or i can't send a video cause the file is too large
@@ANewEvilRising - No. Samsung messages uses SMS which is now too limited in this day and age. It appears that Samsung whose OS is Android is going to move to RCS. Since Android is developed by Google and Google is going to RCS, Samsung has little choice but to change too.
Some people think this is a reason for Samsung to develop its own OS as Apple has done. At this point, that might be a major, if not impossible, challenge for Samsung.
@lynneanderson4255 so really there's no choice but to switch to Google messaging app? If we stick with samsungs then what? Only downside is it will be very bare bones? That's not much of a issue at all for me who only sends text and that's it. Is security going to be an issue?
@@ANewEvilRising - Good question. I think the deal is Samsung's support for it will stop in January and there won't be anymore updates.
I think.
I'm really not happy about this change because I don't like Google messages. The hope is that the features that make
Samsung messages preferable will be incorporated into the currently barebones and unattractive Google messages to upgrade it.
My ONLY concern w Google forcing me to use their Messenger App is 'PRIVACY'. I don't want Google to keep my messages for their own use.
Bingo
And you believe Samsung is any better lol your entire phone and it's apps are comprised
@@unbreakable_360 you must live by the motto "it is what it is" 😉, but I don't.
@desi579 neither do i. I live by logic and necessity. The changes didn't hinder my life in any way shape or form. Just minor inconveniences. Few more clicks 😆
@@desi579 google sucks period
Samsung Messages remains the superior messaging application.
Nothing y'all are mentioning was superior just minor conveniences
iMessage*
@@unbreakable_360which fir a texting app is pretty major if one just feels and looks better to use
The biggest thing also is the copy function. You can't copy certain parts of your text. For instance, if you receive a tracking number and you just want to smart select that you can't. You have to copy the entire message on Google messages then click around and delete what you need. Samsung messages no problem. At least make it recognize when there's a tracking number and if you hit copy just copy that. Just a thought
Yes this is also a great point. I think Google wants you to use circle to Search in such instances but I get your point fully
1000% the copy function straight from the notification banner is so clutch. Trying to copy text or memorize one time use codes... Google messages is just... a child in comparison. Like congrats, you can do the basics🙄
@@cbyrd621 I thought Google does have that? I bought a pixel last night and I was able to do that with whenever it sent me a code to sign into apps
It was a rush job and they (Google) will not make it any better. They have everyone where they want them, by the balls! Convenient, forget it.
Instead of moving forward, we move backward with Giigle! Sorry, I call it like I see it.
I'll miss the scheduled text messages. They were useful when you wanted to send a text to somebody but it's 3am and don't want to wake them up.
That's still available on Google messages. Just have to hold down the send button and the schedule message menu will come up
@triceb890 thanks, I didn't actually know this. Does WhatsApp also have it?
@skycloud4802 No problem at all. Happy to help. No, it's not available natively on WhatsApp. You'd have to use a third-party app.
You can also click the "+" sign
It seems so weird to me they have updated they're messages icon for one ui7, and include it in their advertising, yet treat the service like the ugly step child compared to Google messages. I love Google messages, I'm overjoyed RCS is finally catching on (almost all my contacts have it turned on now), I love native quality photos/videos, I also love animated emojis and emoji reactions. It's just too bad Samsung has seemingly dropped the most important function for their proprietary messaging app to be worth using.
It makes no sense to me either. Especially these Samsung phones being marketed as a premium device, yet native apps, especially an essential app like a messaging service being pushed to the side purposely, all in favour of another brand's product. It is almost as if Google is providing Samsung some sort of financial benefit to push users to use their software...
@jack11224 it's the outcome of capitalism. One or two players. Android was open, then after winning, google closed it.
There is no excuse for this. Rcs is handled by the os, not the app. Google was going to open it up, then decided not to.
Hell, they block rcs on bootloader unlocked phones.
They killed any fun Android had.
@@Wyattinous samsung probably getting forced to do so. Since Google wants to corner the market
@@jack11224 Or, or.....Samsung are experiencing a downturn in the chip making sector, undergoing some management changes, and generally having the bad time companies go through from time to time. So everything is on the table to get back on course, including staffing cuts for things like messaging apps that really aren't required when a replacement is just sitting right there.
This just pisses me off. You shouldn't be able to take away something that was there when I bought the phone! I love Samsung messaging. I do use the RCS function. Being able to put personal photos as background for texts is essential and Google doesn't do that. I'm never going to use Google messaging. Don't trust Google and avoid as much as possible.
Definitely hear you! Will have that video with some other alternatives soon!
Couldn't agree more.
I have an old phone. Lost Messenger +. Cannot afford new phone....i am a senior citizen....just had to replace hearing aides. So tired of this. Was told i need a newer phone. Not at this time...
Looking forward to that video of alternatives! @@jspring86
@MuamerRastic I think as a South Korean firm, they are being bullied by Google, Microsoft and even Western government operatives. This is the only way Samsung is able to preserve it's Western markets without being sanctioned and dragged. Very dirty tactics at play.
Just another way of Google getting your information. You'll be messaging someone about toilet roll and all you will see on adverts is toilet rolls..... 😂😂😂
My favorite feature on Samsung messages was the private notifications setting. So if you look at your notifications, it will only show the sender, not the message contents (it simply says "New Message"). On GM, there's no setting, so you can see the message content. It's helpful if someone is holding your phone for any reason or it's connected to the car.
EXACTLY!!!
You can prevent the message details from showing on your lock screen:
Open 'Settings' on your phone.
Tap on 'Notifications'.
Tap on 'Lock screen notifications'.
Turn 'On' Lock screen notifications.
Select 'Hide content'.
@bs2162 yea I've always had that set, but I was meaning in the notifications panel. So when the phone is unlocked and say you're in an app or on the home screen, and swipe down (or use a shortcut) to your notifications panel, you'll still see the contents there. It's a different setting. And that setting for the lock screen doesn't fix the unlocked notifications panel
@@triceb890 Sorry, I thought you meant on the lock screen. It will probably be ignored by Google, but why not request this feature in a review on the Google Messages app page on Google Play Store. Explain how it works on Samsung Messages, and stress how important you feel this feature is and that it should be added to Google Messages..
@@triceb890 Sorry, I thought you meant on the lock screen. You will probably be ignored by Google, but try asking for this feature in the review section on Google Play Store, or on the Feedback section from within the app. Explain how it worked in Samsung Messages and stress how important you think this feature is.
Samsung Messages has the capability to eliminate location data from shared images, which is quite useful if you forget to remove it manually.
Samsung Message is way better and I will continue to use it with or without RCS. People are just going to get that link to see the higher-resolution media that I send them.
The only way i found to bypass the quality issue is through quickshare which ain't a problem for me unless if the recipient isnt a Samsung user
One thing that I miss the most is favorite contacts, it is simply missing in Google messages
A great one indeed!!
Made the change a month ago. It's also working well with my Ultra Watch. I think it will get better over time. I really like seeing a reply is coming to me in google messages.Thanks for posting!
Yeah i think they will collaborate to add some samsung messages features eventually, especially if people give that feedback.
@@jspring86 Do you know where we can go to express it?
Great video. It's a bummer that a company the size of Google doesn't have all those features and more!
I've been using Google Messages for sometime now. I like it. I used Samsung Messages in the past on my older devices but switched over to Google probably 3+ years ago.
Categories, custom ringtones/notification alerts for group texts, custom wallpaper, timed messages, AR emoji, samsung app integration, are all reasons I'm not moving off of my Samsung Messages or S23U. I havent been able to see real time replies for a while now with Samsung Messages, so its not a big deal to not have it moving forward, compared to the customizable things i love that make each text with my contacts unique
Not true. I have a separate text sound on my S24 Ultra, and for certain contacts as well.
I started to use Google Messages. I dont miss Samsung messages tbh
The thing that drives me nuts the most is that Google messages on Samsung does not allow you to change the notification sound for incoming messages. I know you can change it on a per contact basis, but I want all texts to be one sound and all other notifications to be another sound. Works fine on my Pixel, but not on my Samsung.
Being able to easily see all shared attachments is a huge thing for me, and Google messages doesn't have that functionality. I don't download every photo I get, and sometimes I need to go back and find one.
I used to use Samsung Messages for the customized backgrounds. Since i started using Google Messages, ive warmed up to it. I like being able to see when iphones are typing, i can schedule send, i can do reactions, gifs, etc. Also Google filters out & blocks spam texts.
I have text messages from my deceased son from before he died 3 years ago and I can't get those switched over from Samsung messages to Google messages, any suggestions? I DON'T want to lose those as I read them often and they bring me comfort...TIA
You could screenshot them
Back up your data. It backs up messages, phone logs, apps, home screen, ect. If you ever switch phones or if you lose stuff, you can back it all up
Read receipts and reacts already work without rcs. Google messages translates reacts from non-smartphones/iphones without rcs, and read reciepts are a feature or sms
What I don't like about Google behavior... Is that lot of time they kill a good app or project... I don't hope it will happen to this rcs system too! I'm rocking the Samsung rcs btw
Samsung messages also changes the message icon to match the current theme icons being used. Google messages just has a blue voice/chat box which stands out like a sore thumb in the theme.
A HUGE benefit to Google Messages that yiu failed to mention is that many of us have MacBooks and Android phones. Google Messages has a Chrome client, allowing synchronized messaging on your Apple laptop. I like Samsung Messaging better, but totally need the sync ability with Apple.
Yes but i would argue that those of using mac and Samsung phone are in a minority. I use a mac too but not many galaxy users do in my experience.
There's a Google client on chrome? Where can one get that?
@@jspring86After I got a Mac the Samsung phone stayed in service for 6 more months. And then the iPhone 16 got released.
The integration of MacOS and iOS is just too good that the old phone didn’t make sense for me anymore.
I guess that many Mac users will do the same after some time.
@@Netzwerkdose I dont disagree...completely. Was an iPhone user for many, many, many years. Got real tired of Apple charging me $1000+ a year to purchase the same phone hardware with a new name. No folding, no smaller size. No choice. Android has been a joy to customize. I do miss Airdrop as I am a photographer, but I found an android app that is almost as good. I think there would would be more people like me if they took time to solve any differences.
@@jspring86 You can argue that and you are probably right, but I think its because they dont realize how little difference there is if you take time to find solutions like this for any gaps. I hated Windows, and I came to resent Apple for the iPhone 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, and 6 hardware being the same as iPhone 5 and 4. Im will no longer pay big money to not have a hardware choice, customization choice, and software choices.
They should make Samsung message app RCS
I think Samsung must keep the Samsung Messages features please 🙏 @Samsung
If they removing samsung messages, what happens to people's Theme purchases? I purchased samsung theme wallpaper based on the keyboard.
Why would it remove rcs support? Rcs is much much better than sms, because it makes texting a whole lot better.
Money. It costs Samsung money to get certified for RCS on all US carriers.
@jspring86 oh (and to be honest, I only read the video title, I don't have the time to watch the video right now).
@@jspring86 but samsung has soo much money!
A great video, Jeff. Google messages is really starting to grow on me. Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and the family brother.
Merry christmas Paul!! 🎅
Phasing out or US corp charging Samsung to use RCS in US so Google can continue to be a monopoly
I mean anyone has to pay to get RCS certified by the carriers thats just the business. Google had to pay too. Samsung decided it's cheaper to just move to Google Messages then to pay to get their own app certified. Google is a close partner for them they see it as a win win
I'm just annoyed Google messages forces you to log in with an email address. It says that you can skip that process and Even lets you do so the first time you download it. But eventually when you open up the app you will get a screen prompting you to log in and you will not be able to get past this screen without doing so. Even closing and opening the app will cause the screen to reappear. The only solution is to uninstall it completely and reinstall. I'm not doing that every time Google decides it wants to collect my information.
Oh yay... and people are saying this is a good thing to happen...
And you can't customize the background on Google
Or the font,I hate it
I'm bummed about Verizon messages going away. I hate Google messages.
I used messages+ and I was able to change the vibration notification when I got a text so it was different from all of my other notifications. Now that I felt forced to switch to Google messages all of my notifications are the same and I can't tell if I got a email or someone messsges me while it's in my pocket which is very annoying.
The sorting categories is the big one for me! I use Google messages now because RCS support is a requirement for me now. Now I don't have to use other apps for encrypted conversations and better posting experience... but man I miss sorting categories!
Not sure you mentioned this but in a text convo, Samsung allows you to view all images shared during the convo in one location. I used that a lot. Similar to Microsoft Teams allowing you to view all files shared in a particular chat. If Google messages does that, I've never figured out how.
These smartphones are so complex that even after 20 years of using them I still learn something new.
I hope Google messages incorporates all the features of Samsung messages we're losing when migrating.
Great content. Question the phone on the left, were did you get the home screen wallpaper from🤔
From that josh guy on X he made a high res version of s25 ultra stock wallpaper
Donde encuentro ese reloj de la pantalla del teléfono de la derecha? 0:04
Hi Jeff thanks for the information. I'm not switching. I love the ability to customize the app. I don't RCS.
It doesn't sit right with me that you are showing an OTP code for your google account with a number and timestamp on it. I'm no security expert, but this seems inadvisable.
I don't buy a Google phone because I like the Samsung product, brand. And most importantly it's NOT google.
Did google buy out samsung,
Or is Samsung just selling out.
Not happy about this change, nor am I happy about the carriers doing the sellout either.
Maybe i should flip to apple, or are they doing this too.
I think as a South Korean firm, Samsung are being bullied by Google, Microsoft. This is the only way Samsung is able to preserve it's Western markets without being sanctioned and dragged. Very dirty tactics at play
IPhone security is arguably worse because there's fewer of each device type making it easier to write specific binaries because there's less device types to have to keep track of
I don't fully think Samsung is exiting... on my Flip6 it asks if I want to use Chat Settings and that info and stuff is sent to Google and in the about section it directs to links to Google about RCS via them. I think they are ditching carrier RCS but implementing some RCS via Jibe. My app version on my Flip6 is 15.7.01.3. RCS via this worked with Google Messages users and iPhone RCS.
My S24 was not the same higher version and only offered advanced messaging via ATT RCS.
Thanks for the insight!
I'm on T-Mobile myself. Switching back to Samsung Messages after hearing Jeff's video, I still have RCS features so..
Hmm...
Ah, T-Mobile US, that is..
Tmobile hasn't said they're pulling RCS fully yet. Only Verizon, but still not a great sign as the carriers usually follow one another here.
@@jspring86 So today is Jan 18th - I had a random idea and tested it out. I'm on AT&T. I did a factory reset of my Flip6 (my eSIM was on my Pixel 9 Pro) and did not copy anything over. Before moving my eSIM, immediately after setting up I installed Samsung Messages and went in and made it the default before ever even opening Google Messages. I transferred my eSIM over, restarted my phone, opened up Samsung Messages and received the RCS notice to opt-in (the version that uses Jibe, not AT&T Advanced Messaing) and behold it auto-registered me for RCS no issues. I really feel that there is more going on with Samsung Messages than we are being told with the push to Google Messages when it's apparent the standalone one is registering via Jibe. I don't have reactions but me and anyone I message rarely use them.
@amanda907 what's going on is that Samsung is getting paid by Google to push it.
@ Well too bad LOL as long as RCS keeps working on SM I am staying there \o/ Especially since it can still register via Google Chat services
what I have noticed with RCS. In google message you can not send a video in a group conversation. you would need to send the videos or Gifs individually. presently I can do that with samsung message. but if they phase it out. you can not do that.
Apple users were having a hard time getting ahold of me through their message app, and the fix for them was send as sms when rcs isn't available. It's in apples message app settings.
If I change the font on my phone Google messages won't have the font change.
Is this for only US or worldwide
US, Canada, and parts of Europe have all started ending RCS in Samsung Messages
I moved to Google messages about 6 months ago. Does the job and works better than Samsung messages ever did without RCS.
Silencing notifications is a chore on Google messages. You have to effectively block and report as spam which feels like an extreme because those messages may have some use like bank statements, but don't wanna be bothered by the notifs. In Samsung messages, you can simply mute a contact
If we could get some of the organization features of Samsung IN Google, I'd be extra good. I miss those tabs with chat categories.
I use google messages for how easy it is to setup and use. But I miss some of the power user features like organizing chats and pinning chats. RCS is just too important to have.
Would you mind sharing which KWGT widget you are currently using in this video? Thank you.
One4kwgt pro pack!
@jspring86 Thank you. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year!
Can Google messages export and imports contacts like Samsung messages? That's important to me with backups
Can you use both? Use Samsung messages for most stuff and use Google messages for RCS?
Apart from in the future them adding support to add in samsung notes, i use google apps over samsung stock apps. Google messages is quick, bigger files supported means no "message not sent file size too large"
I switched to Google messages when I got my S23 just for the reactions. Because on Samsung messages, when someone reacts, it came through as a text message. But I do miss the customization of Samsung messages.
My google app the rcs chat wont turn on any longer , it been like this for about a weer
Thanks jeff..Integration is the best option...hope they do it...😁😁😁👍👍👍
Where do you get your black wallpaper in one UI 7.0
That is the S25 Ultra stock wallpaper
Can I get that for my 24?
How do you place your chosen apps into that widget with the background onto your home screen?!
Bring message categories back to Google Messages and be able to use samsung emoji, also if I want to share photos or videos open up samsung gallery or give the the option as a default. Not everyone uses Google photos. I already shared with Samsung Members.
I used to use an app on an old phone called Messages+ and it had th3 ability to schedule when a message would be sent to someone so if I wanted to send something in the middle of the night I didn't have to send it right then and there. You can type something in and save it as a draft but that only lets you save a single message and you have to go back later and send it so if for some reason you're sleeping in really late the message won't be sent in the morning if you want it to be sent in the morning
You can use the send later option now in Google message.
Why would they remove RCS?
Well I'm running Google Messages on my Fold 6, but there is no option to change chat colors.
Here they are merging contacts and phone app into Google messages to compete with WhatsApp and stuff too
Personal RCS has never worked for me. It always shoots back my message a day later telling to retry with sms/mms.
Over a decade i use Google messages as I'm use to the lay out customise the settings but over time the privacy. Issue is a big deal, having said that I started samsung messaging and found that it's useful efficient and customised such a dark mode integrated to calender and notes which make life bit more perfect for every day use. Yes I switched Samsung message
Where did you get that wallpaper? ❤
So will this switch also include other messaging apps from the Google Playstore?
Is there a why? I'm in Canada and still have RCS on samsung messages, just curious
One reason I didn't switch to google messaging app is the receiver needs to have an active data/internet connection in order for them to receive my message which I think is timely crucial and some of our contacts has no constant connection to wifi/data.
Where can i find that wallpaper one the left?
merry Christmas great video thank you
I been lost rcs messaging 3-4 months ago, I was able to send up to 30 pictures at once now only been able to send 2 at a time
Why did they update the app for oneui 7
Samsung Messages is still the default in some regions just not the US or Europe.
The lack of categories is nearly a deal breaker for me. I've given them feedback and have heard nothing (i.e. no comment to my review)
The feel is so much better searching for messages is better save of pics in message
Samsung lost out on the market of messaging when iMessages took over with the games the animations and such especially when a Samsung backed away from the customization of how messages look but if they would have implemented things like games video messaging and just an interactive UI in general it would have been much better
LOL that's exactly what I'm talking about Google messages needs to work perfectly or integrate with its apps Samsung gallery, files etc...
Only thing i can say Google messages had on Samsung messenger is RCS for high quality media. Now that they are getting rid of RCS I hope they figure something out for high quality media at least. Also they NEED a trash category. Ive deleted conversations by accident a few times and or deleted a convo only to realize i needed something out of that conversation. Its always nice to know its not immediate deleted with the trash category.
I wish google messages supported proper screen display on the zfold6 why cant the conversation span between both halfs on the large screen. Its so annoying to type and have to look at the right side of the screen then the center or miss clicking on a contact when just scrolling messages
Samsung messages os so much easier to search for past conversations. So much more intuitive.
I hope google messages will eventually allow me to apply my Samsung themes that I've purchased from the theme store. It worked great with Samsung messages.
Wow never knew about categories. I've had my phone for 2 years and just learned this lol. I like that I can pin my most frequent contacts. Google didn't have that last time I checked.
Is your main s24 ultra the one with one UI 7 software
Yes! It's the only phone im mostly using right now aside from the z fold special edition
It just sounds like Google is being a pain
Probably forcing them. And I even heard
That Google is complaining about there. Galaxy store app. In another words, they want a monopoly.
Thanks Jeff, I had forgotten the many advantages of Samsung Messages.
I want to switch back now 😢
It hurts, but it all makes sense when you imagine that Samsung is probably being bullied by Google and Microsoft. This is the only way Samsung is able to preserve it's Western markets without being sanctioned and dragged. Very dirty tactics at play
I have a galaxy S22+ and until recently I was using Verizon message app which they shutdown. In my opinion was VZM was better than both. Now I am using google messages. I really do not like the lack of customization. It took me today to find out how to apply a specific notification sound to Google Messages. I have been trying to figure it out. It should not have taken this long. It wasn't straightforward. I loved the way Verizon allowed you to customize your background and message bubbles. It seems that Google has behind the scenes pressured both Verizon and Samsung into abandoning RCS.
I'm happy I'm not from US, so as the entire rest of the world, I also don't care about RCS nor the thing Apple was doing with their messagin nor the Apple's support or RCS as in the rest of the world we mostly use alternatives like WhatsApp and the default messaging app is almost exclusively being used for SMS only. On the aesthetic side of the things, I mostly like the uniformity of the icons for the default apps and on Samsung at least those are quite good, so the first thing is that I'm not willing to break the aesthetic of my home screen by changing my default texint app to Google - and that's just the aesthetic side of the thing. Without the RCS being involved, Google Messages don't really have any other upside over regular texting and being outside the US, RCS is not really important as we have a lot of apps like WhatsApp that are mostly being used for the same purpose and it's not worse in any way (and if you bring up the privacy concerns, it's just a matter of which company you prefer to use your data, and it neither here or there). I guess the issue in the US is how most people just stick to default apps for some reason, despite of any other options and this is not so much the case in the rest of the world 🤷♂️
That said, I wouldn't have mind if the choose to integrate Google Messages somehow into the default Samsung Messages app (because the Samsung's app is simply so much better that I would consider it beyond any comparison - but here's this video, so I'll accept comparison is possible when you really try) 😉
Another thing is that I'm sick from even the idea of my regular text message being tied to any ecosystem - Apple fans might be ok with it, but I'm not and it's a part of the reasons why I'm not an Apple fan - in the same way I don't want my messages being captive by Google and their mess of attempt to have an ecosystem of some kind as well.
So many apps and services are getting tossed out into the famous Google's graveyard when you just start to get used to them, that I'm not even planning to risk trying the Google Messages (having my important email depending on Google is already a risk big enough I'm having with a single company) - I did actually try it once by accident - they are now scamming Samsung users by showing there's an upgrade option for the app, where most people will just think it's a simple update without giving it a second thought, and it changes your default app to the Google one and it replaces the app on each screen or folder where it was saved, so for the average user it's not so simple to change it back...
If they retire the Samsung Messages entirely, I will really check other options as I won't get stuck with Google's lesser app for sure...
Also, although you typically need a Google account when using Android anyway, you could use Samsung Messages or basically any other texting app without the Google account, but the Google messages are more like the Gmail, so if there's any issue with Google servers or your Google account, you will likely be locked out of your Google messages as well, where with regular texting apps like Samsung Messages this is not the case...
You can't be locked out of sms or rcs, but you might be right anyhow.
Google is old enough to be the villan.
if google messages made the darm theme fully black, and they add message tabs, it would be the perfect messaging app
I dont like how i cant keep background apps open and text back thru the notification bubble. Or hard press to create a floating icon of messages while fully enjoying Netflix or YT.
Im going miss samsung messages. Been using it since I've had my samsung note 5. But every since I've used Google messages, I can't deny it is actually better