Era Memory leave them in silver) Learn marine-tank-viking and start pressure from 5th minute or later, contain and trade. This is the most straight-forward way to realise containing and macro supremacy on silver-gold level. However, when I'll see such terran next time, I wanna do doom-drop with battlecruisers to tank turrets and drop some mules.
TvZ i find is actually more difficult because of Swarm Hosts. I've gotten them down to like .5 mining bases, but they just hammer you from ledges denying production. Vipers suck too, but are manageable. Kind of miss the old cyclone, had an 80% winrate back when:/
I dont even play this game but watch alot of sc2 videos because i love all the tactics people come up with and i must say your channel is one of the best around and im always waiting for new videos haha
Avilo isn't a pro. Just a streamer. Not a bad player, but his stream is just too annoying. I've played him a couple of times. He's a total prick every time.
It's really nice to watch your videos. Like you said, against protoss if you go mech with a lot of tanks, your main goal is to know then the protoss will switch into air. You showed when to attack to do the maximum damage when the P is switching into Air. But I think people would like to know what to do when the protoss has a 200pop air supply army vs MECH. I'm playing mech since Hots, so I guess I'm doing the right thing vs Air(for my skill level). My style is more deffensive than yours. I add Ghosts and Ravens into my composition army. And I'm not playing with widow mines, because I don't control them good enought in late game. And I guess my style is too passive @ 6K+ MMR. But still, at my level (4.9K MMR), I don't see what Protoss units composition can beat my death ball. Only better skill from my opponent or big mistakes from me are making me lose right now. For example, against Carrier I have a different play style : I make thors & BC, but my thors are in AA light mode AOE. And I just A+click and win the fight : Thors kill interceptors really quick, and my BC are taking interceptors damage. And when interceptors are almost all dead I win the fight with focus Carriers. This trick is good because it allow you to only A+click against Carriers. When you not have a lot of APM it's cool, because in every else situation, if the Terran doesn't focus the carriers he will die. You just need to make sure the thors are not focusing carrier in light mode or it will be a desaster. An amry with Thors only doesn't work with this trick because Carriers are shooting at thors, so thors are too close and they almost only shoot at carriers in light mode. I'm also using Ravens because they are really versatile, and like I said I'm defending, so I need an advantage when i'm defending : Ravens's energy are increasing when i'm not fighting so the more I wait, more enery I have. Plus, with auto spell cast it's really fast to spend Raven's energy. And P.D.D. counters so many Protoss units, like Tempests, and their seeker missile are now very good vs charged Void rays. I'm also using Ghost because they are versatile too, and when you EMP the whole Protoss army and then your tanks shoot at the Protoss army, well it's cool. :D And they shoot at air units, and my barrack is useless if I don't make them. But yes this is a very defensive style, i'm scouting with cloack banshees almost. So I alway have an eye on the Protoss composition. And when I know what he is doing and he has enought towers/obs to deny my banshees I keep them in my base to defend runby/drops. I almost don't make any Vikings, my Mech style is to stack some Ravens to my composition army, Because I find them overpowered right know :D And I guess this is why I have so succes in TvZ and TvP, Ravens seems overpowered to me at the moment. I'm strugguling in TvT because we can't stack them fast enought in early game. We can open with one or too, but we need gaz for tanks and vikings. And defensive play style is not really good in TvT I guess.
I hope you don't mind me asking but was wondering how often you run into neeb on ladder and how the games usually go. I've always been interested to learn how big or small the skill gap is between players like yourself and absolute monsters like neeb(no offense, you're pretty good too!). I mean you seemed to beat him pretty handily here but I'm assuming it has something to do with your build countering the current stupid pheonix/adept meta?
Very nice style , i gonna to try this style because i m actually struggle a bit , but smth i ve got to mention , why u do not +2 armor upgrade vs skytoss? u got so many thors and neeb did just carriers , so the dmg which the carrier would deal with +2 armor upgrade would be much less, over the time. another question , how mech works vs the mass stalker/ disrupter style? it seems to be kinda strong and i struggle aswell
@BeastyqtSC2 You told about transitioning to battlecruisers. Give advice plz, how to fight carrier+tempest with it. Which additional units need to add vs tempests?
He didn't give more advice about that, but he posted a video a couple days ago about how to counter protoss units, in that video he shows that raven's PDD, thors and vikings are good counters vs tempest
Diego Lecaros The question is more complicated than you think. PDD wasting all mana on interceptors, vikings well countered by carriers as well. Thors probably could be easily kited by range and mobility. Last choice is to get lots of not upgraded marines, cuz you playing mech. I saw Awers GMLrank130 lost to ML toss with viking-cruisers vs carrier-tempests. GML lost to fucking ML!
PDD doesn't block interceptor shot. If it's only carrier tempest and you can afford it, bc raven is the composition you want to aim for, roughly 1:1, maybe a little less ravens than bcs. But generally, it's really dependant on how many air units from protoss there are and what support. If there aren't that many carriers, you can use vikings, but the more carriers there are worse vikings become. If he has hts you have to watch out because of your ravens, so you add something that can deal with hts, like ghosts or tanks.
Mech TvT guide next? Whichever one has the most likes i'll be doing that one!
Yes! pls TvT mech :)
BeastyqtSC2 mech tvt
Kill them while they are doing that or just have way more economy than them since they are camping.
Era Memory
leave them in silver)
Learn marine-tank-viking and start pressure from 5th minute or later, contain and trade. This is the most straight-forward way to realise containing and macro supremacy on silver-gold level.
However, when I'll see such terran next time, I wanna do doom-drop with battlecruisers to tank turrets and drop some mules.
Yes TvT! In TvZ theres already some builds like cyclone/hellion and banshees but I haven't seen mech in TvT since HotS :c
Mech TvZ guide next? Whichever one has the most likes i'll be doing that one!
I'd vote on that "Battlecruisers immediately" thing I've heard you mention a few times, whichever matchup its meant for.
TvZ i find is actually more difficult because of Swarm Hosts. I've gotten them down to like .5 mining bases, but they just hammer you from ledges denying production. Vipers suck too, but are manageable.
Kind of miss the old cyclone, had an 80% winrate back when:/
thank you for good job =) I always seeing SC2 videos to understand the way of player's thinking
Swarm Host Infestor Hive Tech destroys me.
Maybe some guides how to styles like Gumiho v Serral or Special v Armani. Your mech is good too!
I dont even play this game but watch alot of sc2 videos because i love all the tactics people come up with and i must say your channel is one of the best around and im always waiting for new videos haha
wrr
This is really awesome, more than many others you do understand what is the point with a tutorial on SC2!
It's great to see a TvP mech win.
Great Video and build will practise it tonight!!! Great Job!!! I can't believe you win Neeb game! That's insane!!!
Great mech TvP guide. Great explanations/commentary. Excellent work Beastyqt
Awesome! Keep it up!
The widow mine/siege tank trick ... 😂
Niiiiice !
Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge, you videos are very accessible yet sofisticated.
Please Beasty do more mech videos and guides!! there is no one making mech content except you
Thanks for these videos! So helpful
Love these
Thank you. I have a hard time with protoss
You're the only pro player who plays mech.
TY and Innovation will mech quite frequently too!
Anvilo always plays mech ;)
*Avilo
Avilo isn't a pro. Just a streamer.
Not a bad player, but his stream is just too annoying. I've played him a couple of times. He's a total prick every time.
Personally, watching Avilo gives me cancer :|
It's really nice to watch your videos.
Like you said, against protoss if you go mech with a lot of tanks, your main goal is to know then the protoss will switch into air. You showed when to attack to do the maximum damage when the P is switching into Air. But I think people would like to know what to do when the protoss has a 200pop air supply army vs MECH.
I'm playing mech since Hots, so I guess I'm doing the right thing vs Air(for my skill level). My style is more deffensive than yours. I add Ghosts and Ravens into my composition army. And I'm not playing with widow mines, because I don't control them good enought in late game. And I guess my style is too passive @ 6K+ MMR.
But still, at my level (4.9K MMR), I don't see what Protoss units composition can beat my death ball. Only better skill from my opponent or big mistakes from me are making me lose right now.
For example, against Carrier I have a different play style : I make thors & BC, but my thors are in AA light mode AOE. And I just A+click and win the fight : Thors kill interceptors really quick, and my BC are taking interceptors damage. And when interceptors are almost all dead I win the fight with focus Carriers.
This trick is good because it allow you to only A+click against Carriers. When you not have a lot of APM it's cool, because in every else situation, if the Terran doesn't focus the carriers he will die. You just need to make sure the thors are not focusing carrier in light mode or it will be a desaster. An amry with Thors only doesn't work with this trick because Carriers are shooting at thors, so thors are too close and they almost only shoot at carriers in light mode.
I'm also using Ravens because they are really versatile, and like I said I'm defending, so I need an advantage when i'm defending : Ravens's energy are increasing when i'm not fighting so the more I wait, more enery I have. Plus, with auto spell cast it's really fast to spend Raven's energy. And P.D.D. counters so many Protoss units, like Tempests, and their seeker missile are now very good vs charged Void rays.
I'm also using Ghost because they are versatile too, and when you EMP the whole Protoss army and then your tanks shoot at the Protoss army, well it's cool. :D And they shoot at air units, and my barrack is useless if I don't make them.
But yes this is a very defensive style, i'm scouting with cloack banshees almost. So I alway have an eye on the Protoss composition. And when I know what he is doing and he has enought towers/obs to deny my banshees I keep them in my base to defend runby/drops.
I almost don't make any Vikings, my Mech style is to stack some Ravens to my composition army, Because I find them overpowered right know :D
And I guess this is why I have so succes in TvZ and TvP, Ravens seems overpowered to me at the moment. I'm strugguling in TvT because we can't stack them fast enought in early game. We can open with one or too, but we need gaz for tanks and vikings.
And defensive play style is not really good in TvT I guess.
If the Protoss is maxed on air only, you should be maxed on mass Battlecruisers + Ravens in order to counter it.
I hope you don't mind me asking but was wondering how often you run into neeb on ladder and how the games usually go. I've always been interested to learn how big or small the skill gap is between players like yourself and absolute monsters like neeb(no offense, you're pretty good too!). I mean you seemed to beat him pretty handily here but I'm assuming it has something to do with your build countering the current stupid pheonix/adept meta?
I'm not very good atm, I would say games for the past month are probably 75-25% in his favor.
Cool, thanks for the response. I wish I could say that. Neeb could be at the peak of a payote trip and still stomp me lol
Very nice style , i gonna to try this style because i m actually struggle a bit , but smth i ve got to mention , why u do not +2 armor upgrade vs skytoss? u got so many thors and neeb did just carriers , so the dmg which the carrier would deal with +2 armor upgrade would be much less, over the time.
another question , how mech works vs the mass stalker/ disrupter style? it seems to be kinda strong and i struggle aswell
you are a blessing on this earth thank you so much for these ORGASMIC videos
I've got a question. Do you think it's necessary to get the early Starport? Feel like the Vikings don't add too much to your comp early on.
What if ground protoss went disruptors? Wouldn't they destroy the siegetanks?
It's very hard to get good shots with Disruptors against Siege tanks.
Ravenator just scan like mad
you're so good in tvt
just watched you ve heromarine
@BeastyqtSC2
You told about transitioning to battlecruisers.
Give advice plz, how to fight carrier+tempest with it. Which additional units need to add vs tempests?
He didn't give more advice about that, but he posted a video a couple days ago about how to counter protoss units, in that video he shows that raven's PDD, thors and vikings are good counters vs tempest
Diego Lecaros
The question is more complicated than you think. PDD wasting all mana on interceptors, vikings well countered by carriers as well. Thors probably could be easily kited by range and mobility. Last choice is to get lots of not upgraded marines, cuz you playing mech.
I saw Awers GMLrank130 lost to ML toss with viking-cruisers vs carrier-tempests. GML lost to fucking ML!
PDD doesn't block interceptor shot. If it's only carrier tempest and you can afford it, bc raven is the composition you want to aim for, roughly 1:1, maybe a little less ravens than bcs. But generally, it's really dependant on how many air units from protoss there are and what support. If there aren't that many carriers, you can use vikings, but the more carriers there are worse vikings become. If he has hts you have to watch out because of your ravens, so you add something that can deal with hts, like ghosts or tanks.
Do a counter for BC rush counter for all races. 👍🏻👍🏻
Can you make builds for mech vs Zerg and Terran plz? I'm struggling against those two for some reason.
Oh shit didn't see comments lol
Got any proof that it's neeb?
Hello guys, what IS the Map of this game ?
im watching too alot of sc2 games but i just want some basic tactics TvP/TvZ/TvT easy and effective against casual players
1st
can i have your replays? would love to see it