Okay, Moros is becoming a problem for our hearts - Runs#33 - Light Commentary | Hades 2 Early Access

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  • @hjt091
    @hjt091 4 місяці тому +12

    IDK if you've fought Polyphemus with Odysseus's keepsake equipped, but he recognizes it

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому +4

      I have! I'd like to do more potential Keepsake interactions. I had one ask about Circe's for Scylla fight.

  • @digifreak90
    @digifreak90 4 місяці тому +10

    Just saying with Demeter Boons, I'm going to miss Killing Freeze, which inflicted Slow and Decay when all enemies were chilled.
    13:10 What is she plotting with Od?
    14:38 I feel like Nem would side against Arachne, because, at least as far as I see it, the issue was never Arachne's skill, it was her pride. She was punished for being arrogant, not for being a gifted weaver. 14:45 Yeah, some version also have that as a factor.
    17:30 Why do I feel like Hestia would make an amazing Curry?
    19:08 I find the personality differences between Medea and Circe to be interesting. Circe is constantly reciting shakespearean style incantations while adding things to her cauldron, whereas Medea is simply calmly listing out her ingredients.
    21:05 Frinos: I could take him.
    40:00 Dang, that was smooth.
    46:55 You know, I'm not sure I'd want to eat fish from the River of Lamentation. (Not that I'm a big seafood fan to begin with)
    51:50 You know, with Artemis being an overworld encounter in this game, it makes me a little sad that it means that we don't get a Duo Boon between her and Apollo.
    59:45 I wonder if the Hidden Aspect of the twin flames (assuming the weapons will have hidden aspects like they did in the first game) will be the Aspect of Hecate.
    1:15:00 Impressive, you didn't take a single hit during that fight. You both started and ended the fight with 77 armor.
    1:35:54 Ah, so close.
    1:51:25 I feel pretty sure that there will be more to their story in the full release.
    1:51:45 Ah. so that's what was behind that door.
    1:59:10 For the Arachne challenge, I'd consider starting off with Hephaestus's keepsake in order to ensure he's in the god pool for the run so that you can get his boon that grants armor every room in exchange for primed magick. Also, hope that Arachne offers the Onyx dress, it has the least useful passive effect (it just gives you a fate fabric) but it has the highest armor of all her dresses.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому

      I used to run Demeter a lot too during the first game. I miss it, not sure what has her stand out power-wise. Her freeze mechanic is definitely a buff imo ^
      Ya know, ppl keep joking its Hecate and Od having it in the woods lol, but I'm not sure! Hecate mentioning Od about his flattery supports that lmao. But I think it's plot-related ^
      I think so too with Nem. Otherwise, she'd likely done something about it already. Unless advised not to intervene like Hecate
      Because Hestia is your favorite auntie!
      LOL Medea's incatations are hilarious. I had the same thought too, just following her list of ingredients and improvise.. hmm some pepper!
      Frinos is him!!!
      Moros had me there!
      Oh but I am a fan of seafood. Not sure if we're trading off the fish or using it for incatations hmm.
      Ya! What a miss opportunity with Artemis and Apollo. I really hope there's more opportunities, but looks unlikely with the current mechanics.
      I was thinking about Aspect of Hecate too! would be badass, but unless they stopped with the mythology crossovers, I doubt the 4th aspect would be Hecate.
      I'm pleased you noticed Digi. Not often I avoid hits at all.
      (ahh those traps!! grr)
      I think so too? Accept never had we had a minor prophecy conclude halfway like that if that were the case.
      Your gameplan for the Arachne challenge is good! I was thinking Hephaestus too. Honestly, I kinda start the Arachne challenge when it happens, because I don't think Arachne is guaranteed everytime in Erebus no? But I take your point ^ it's best to optimize.

  • @matthewwhiteside4619
    @matthewwhiteside4619 3 місяці тому

    1:50:36 god, that expression of Mel's is deeply unsettling. The rarer expressions of Meg and Than from the first game when they looked directly into the camera were equally unsettling.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому

      Really? I always thought it was a side eye smiling. Ig I could see the eyes looking directly at the camera lol. But I thought it was genuinely cute.
      Edit: But yes, Than had a moment there

  • @disastrouslylargeicedmocha
    @disastrouslylargeicedmocha 4 місяці тому +2

    14:21 …Well, not really “As good as”. Arachne repeatedly bragged about being better than Athena AND took all the merit for her skill denying ever having been blessed with talent AND when she was challenged to the weaving competition, the episodes woven into her fabric all denigrated the gods. Arachne is intended to be an example on how hubris ruins mortals (Like, say, a certain sailor deciding to arrogantly yell his full name and address to the son of the god of the seas after gravely injuring him, which apparently, here didn’t happen. Nor could have. Because they….didn’t make Polyphemus Poseidon’s son? [22:14] Huh…? Σ(・□・;)) A better example of a blameless victim would be Psyche, IMO, that was just born very beautiful, and did nothing to scorn Aphrodite, honoring her properly and such, and yet ended up single target of her wrath because OTHER people started saying she was more beautiful then Aphrodite. She eventually got her happy ending, but i’m really curious about what Nemesis would have to say about that one. Or Medea…

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому +1

      I don't expect Arachne to bring up her bold presentations anytime soon, but we may hear it from Athena! I'd like to hear her pov, after the endless war and everything...
      There goes Supergiant's twists! Similar to Zag's origin being a prank for Orpheus lmao. But weirdd what they've done with Polyphemus.
      Mmm, Psyche and Medea! Nem would be talking to herself with that one I think.

  • @mitigatedrisk4264
    @mitigatedrisk4264 4 місяці тому +10

    Moros, you silver tongued devil.
    It's funny, but with this pitch black crystal in the Crossroads, I dare to hope Chaos themself might visit.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому +2

      Moros getting points from us with that one.
      Ya know, I forgot the details. But Chaos could only show up in Hades 1 in some way, but not directly. Tells me they are forbidden to appear physically without real consequences.

    • @mitigatedrisk4264
      @mitigatedrisk4264 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Hamstir4 RE: Chaos
      I agree. My only reason for wondering is how Chaos's art has changed. It's interesting that they've gone from a sort of amorphous cloud of bits to a more conventional sort of body shape. Part of me wonders if the practical reason for that might be that it is easier to model and animate in 3D, which they would need to do if Chaos were to show up "on the ground" as it were.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому +1

      @@mitigatedrisk4264 whistle* you know, I see your point! If we’d see Chaos’s model, it would likely be this version than Hades 1. Hmm!

  • @Nicholas86753
    @Nicholas86753 4 місяці тому +8

    There are many tellings of the Story of Arachne, and yes, in many of them her weavings were insulting to the Gods, especially Athena. Since we've yet to see the Goddess of Wisdom in Hades II, we will have to speculate on which version of the Story exists here.
    I am so happy to finally see the Aspect of Pan! I love the tracking Knives, can't wait for the Underworld run! Easily my favorite of Lim and Oros' aspects... that being said it's a shame their run was screwed up with by the Lag, what do you think caused it? I hope it wasn't the Hammer, because I think it's such a good Keepsake, probably wasn't since the Lag continued into the Crossroads. Although it might be my bias for Icarus shining through~
    In the second run, I kept begging you to get more magic, the Vow of Arrogance can be nutty when you get so many boons. Also, I thought the splitting attack Hammer would be really good with the Aspect of Eon, but I feel it made it actually made it more difficult to use against a single opponent (I.E. Chronos.), but good against the crowds of normal encounter areas. Still, a Great Second run.
    Moros is so cute and he is getting better at Flirting! *She's More*
    Two Runs, and a Successful Chaos Trial? You spoil us! 😁 Thank you so much! Of course, longer videos from you mean longer comments from me! Moonlight Guide You!

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому +2

      So far I’ve yet to see evidence about Arachne’s work being offensive but I’d like to have that confirmation from supergiants. Otherwise seems very one sided, which ig would fit the theme of this story of gods wronging mortals.
      She definitely has the arrogance, quotes from Testing had her thinking Athena’s final product didn’t come close to hers.
      Ya! So funny the Pan Run gets soiled, why couldnt it have been the wands! (No wands hate)
      The issue was my Display Adapter (laptop issue). Luckily it wasn’t the game’s fault. Looks like it got corrupted and shut off on its own, which messed up my whole screen. Thankfully a quick update saved me from what I thought would’ve been hrs of recovering.
      Fortunately, your bias for Icarus will not be a detriment here.
      LOL, I learn in later runs that Vow of Arrogance can get out of hand ^ you’ll find i learned the hard way.
      I thought the hammer would’ve been good too! and perhaps it’s still good, I just had to dash into them and not away. Lmao seeing all those Eos balloons miss in the end was a moment.
      Moros is beginning to be a real problem.
      Thaanks again Nicholas! I’m glad for your comment at all! No pressure on the word count. I think a double run is fine if the first run experience some issues, so this episode didn’t turn out too bad :)
      And may our Aim be true!

  • @hjjh46
    @hjjh46 4 місяці тому +4

    So I think Nem would side with the god because Arachne was punished due to her hybris (not showing respect for the gods or insolence), the same thing happened to Odysseus etc Honestly I still can not comprehend how was it possible for echo to fall in love with Narcissus like I am not falling for a man, no matter how hot he is or how many 6 packs he has, if he just stares at the water talking to himself in the most delusional way possible. And about Moros yea just marry me lets adopt some kinds or something idk.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому +1

      I'm leaning more towards this too ^ tho we'll see if we get confirmation of this Arachne being offensive with her work. We may need Athena for that information.
      True, I do find that hard to believe Narcissus could be thaat attractive without some capacity of affection for others ^
      As for Moros, yes, he could have my babies too.

  • @HarvestPeiskos2209
    @HarvestPeiskos2209 4 місяці тому +7

    22:48 "Some of you need to cam down. You know who you are."
    *Teehee!* 😜

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому +3

      I did have you in mind lmao

    • @HarvestPeiskos2209
      @HarvestPeiskos2209 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Hamstir4 I'm *honored* /J
      Growly feral bearded men with wild eyes make my queer ass giggle and kick my feet like a romance novel character LMAO

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому +3

      @@HarvestPeiskos2209 LOL I understand. Heracles has that feral look down. and his eyes too! Uh oh.

  • @vladimirstevanovic7157
    @vladimirstevanovic7157 4 місяці тому +3

    It seems you don't know this yet, but when you use Bath Salt or Lures not only are you getting a cutscene and a heart from the Hades characters but you also fast forward 12-16 encounters in the Crossroads meaning that whatever plant you planted before the cutscene will grow 12-16 encounters after the cutscene. This also works for Charon delivery by the river. Hope this helps

    • @vladimirstevanovic7157
      @vladimirstevanovic7157 4 місяці тому +1

      And i also found out that when you give Ambrosia to someone you get 20 encounters in the Crossroads as well

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому +2

      Ah thank you! I saw the time duration, but figured it meant that'll be til I could use the Springs or the Pier again. Using it to cheat the cauldron or plants sounds like a plan! Thanks again!
      As for the Ambrosia, I'll try to take advantage of that.

  • @ADZ333222111
    @ADZ333222111 4 місяці тому +2

    "Moros is becoming a problem for our hearts" Oh idk about you but he's been a problem for mine for a while now
    I was like "Oh I bet the lag can't be that bad... ...Oh" I hope it doesn't happen again!
    Yooooo Arachne challengue!! My beloved 🕷
    Can't wait to see how much armor you manage to stack 👀I'll edit this comment later once I get the time to watch the full vid
    Edit:
    So Polyphemus is not Poseidon's son here? Huh
    Aw you made it so far!! That was so impressive, specially since it's only your second(? attempt! Arachne's gonna be so happy you took such good care of her dress
    Okay yeah Chronos is defs losing it. Let's get you yo bed grandpa
    Yeah Narcissus' and Echo's story ending does feel a bit anticlimatic huh
    1:53:16 I-I don't think I've ever hear Nemesis' voice get like that... wow
    Too early to tell, but I think I'm liking this game's story more than the first
    Thanks for the vid as always!

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому +1

      I liked Moros, I acknowledged he is the ideal man. And now he's done it.
      I was very sad when I found out it was unwatchable. Hope it doesn't!
      Ya! Watch however pace you like ^
      Weirdd right? Turned out to be a prank from Poseidon, hmm.. must've been Dionysus's idea.
      It was the first attempt when I read your challenge, but we were close! Yep, it's passed gramp's bedtime.
      The Narcissus and Echo does feel anticlimactic huh? There's suspected to be more in the full game, but usually when the Minor Prophecy says its done, it's done! So, hmm...
      Nah, I'll tell you, I like it. This story feels bolder than the last. However, I thought Chronos would have a point to his doings. And ig he does! But they're just symptoms of his plain vengeance. The rid of the Fates meddling other's lives and the "Golden Age" for mortals was rather insincere. But that's fine. Story has our npcs calling out the gods which is fun.
      You're welcome! Thanks for watching and for your sweet comms!
      Edit: the more I looked into labrys, I do think you're right ^

    • @ADZ333222111
      @ADZ333222111 3 місяці тому

      @@Hamstir4 Ideal man indeed. Where are all the soft spoken, kind, super buff guys anyway
      Yeah I know they have to condense the actual irl versions of the myths to something more manageable. But I do feel like sometimes (very rarely) it's to the detriment of the characters. There's so many myths and versions of Zeus, it's impossible to make a design that represents all of his facets, and I think his design is incredible here... He does feel a bit boring sometimes tho
      Yeah I really hope we get more on Narcissus and Echo, specially Echo tbh. I know her whole deal is not having a voice and all, but she feels really passive in her own story so far
      I also hope we get more on Chronos' motivations! He could be such an interesting character...
      Yeah if the labrys comment wasn't a joke on sapphic women then I have no idea what they were talking about there 🫡

  • @theheartofmymystery
    @theheartofmymystery 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm glad you're willing to try for an Arachne dress preservation run again! Maybe just not with wands?

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  4 місяці тому

      I'll keep it going! Ya lmao, I would say, if I got far with wands, I should be confident with the other weapons. (but I think I get hit more with Blades the most)

  • @batter384
    @batter384 4 місяці тому +1

    Try Hephaestus armor for the challenge.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому

      Hmmm, I'll think about it Batter.

  • @alessandragangemi9611
    @alessandragangemi9611 4 місяці тому

    11:57 pity. Would have loved hearing Moros count down while you killed them. His voice is so smooth. It almost gives me the sensation that he is holding death back for us, and he is counting like: "I cannot hold it indefinitely, and someone's gotta go. I hope it's not you". Since Than is not here anymore, I guess whoever dies is taken by the Styx. I read in the wiki, that he stood in front of the river, to "observe his rival", so that's how people are still dying. Might be wrong.
    14:49 in some versions, being turned into a spider wasn't punishment outright. Athena after seeing the offensive tapestry Arachne wove, got incredibly mad and hit her on the head repeatedly with a spindle while berating her. Arachne, ashamed, committed suicide and the goddess then revived her as a spider, so that she may weave still. Clearly this doesn't seem to be the version they chose for this, but I like to play devil's advocate.
    26:00 that chibi always gives me owo vibes. Love it.
    40:09 [ROMANTIC MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND]
    1:05:44 Not me shouting: THE PROPHECY! GET THE PROPHECY!
    1:05:48 YEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    1:24:22 Asserting dominance by foraging.
    1:31:23 Hades you bitchy bitch. If you didn't wanna hear it, why did you ask?! I swear this man hasn't changed a lick since the previous game.
    1:35:56 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO0 WE LOST THE DRESS QAQ
    1:47:29 No "for Thanatos" yet!
    1:53:15 I like this tidbit. Nemesis is being the voice of reason here. We have seen at least twice that if everything goes back to how it was, mortalkind would suffer greatly, we know Eris would be smothered again by authorities, we know Arachne would be more miserable than ever, and Heracles? His story is still incomplete, for all I can tell. So... what is it we really want? On one hand, we lost out family because of Chronos, on the other, if Olympus wins, so many might suffer. It's not easy.
    1:58:22 Really puts a perspective on the "I've used you" dialogue Hecate had. Doesn't it?
    2:00:01 Sounds like a bad idea-
    2:02:22 IT IS A BAD IDEA-
    You are one crazy son of a gun. First you beat Eris in a glitchy nightmare of a run, now you wanna do 24 Fear Chronos? If you manage to do that, the more power to you.
    Still gonna hang on for that Thanatos run. You upgraded it to level five! You gotta use it against Chronos eventually!
    I am still hung over, so no deep analysis for today. Just glad to know your computer's not dead.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому

      His presence as you're going through your last-ditch gives such a unique feeling! If I was truuly simping for Moros, that countdown would have me flustered on every count. Not sure bout your last point ^ we need an expert on death for this case!
      So actually, I learned the suicide Arachne version fairly recently! The Testing days. Very interesting take of Athena. I highly doubt it myself, but worth considering! All we need is literally a sentence from Athena herself. I love me a good devil's advocate ^
      The chibis are the cutest, and want to see everyone's faces. Maang, everyone is going to look so cute. Ig we already have Mel and Nem's chibis when the Tree points to her during Fields of Mourning, and Mel's Bat Map on the surface.
      Moros is playing his cards right, it's working, and it's a problem.
      LOL, I was thinking exactly for the prophecy.
      I mean no offense when I forage in their face!
      Ya Hades, never makes it easy.
      I was very hangry after the dress broke.
      Hercules seeems, to still be undergoing his labors? interestingly enough. I do like where this story is going. Chaos hints if Chronos can't die, perhaps persuasion is the solution. I would be nice if we could move forward mending mortal suffering and past injustices such as Arachne and Dora. (No mention of Prometheus)
      But if that were the case, why have an Incantation that would stop Chronos from coming back? meaning, persuasion or bettering ourselves may not be the solution?
      Ya ya ya, everything Meli did was framed as the process to the end goal. She clearly had fun playing with Hecate, but ig she was forced to take everything too seriously. and she's noted to be uptight. Jokes may fly over her head because she can always perceive humor.
      Spoilers, it was a bad idea.
      Thanatos run happens sooner than you may think! But yes, maybe I went too crazy. Thaanks! Glad it's not dead either. Hope you're sober by now.

  • @dylanpyle6500
    @dylanpyle6500 4 місяці тому

    Of course they are not going to allow a threat to exist

  • @HarPaelTheMessenger
    @HarPaelTheMessenger 4 місяці тому

    What does Charon say when the other gods make fun of him?
    "Hhhhhhhhhrrrrrrnnnnnnnngggggg...." ("Styx and stones may break my bones, but oars never hurt me.")

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  3 місяці тому

      After catching up on comments, I return to my clever knee-slapper. Thanks for your service.