2 of my favorite legends of table tennis with complete different play. Tt was great back in the 90s, with the 21 pts system, cellu and smaller balls, masked serves, glue booster. Everything which made this sport so intense has been thrown away. And the result is that every year less and less players in clubs
@@JulienGaudfroy yes you are right I saw my mistake after. Those guys were still symbols of the previous table tennis. Maybe they didn't care about those changes who knows... They had to do with it as professional players anyway. But most of the guys I played with didn't appreciate those new rules and material, even if we had to accept it.
@ledorzejean-etienne3747 it is important not to be biased either. I don't think table tennis is less popular with the new plastic ball, numbers don't lie, even outside of China table tennis is one of the most popular sports in the world, more than in the nineties. The new ball allows for more exchanges and less discouragement at the amateur level than with the serves and crazy spin of the 38mm era, so more fun at the end for most people. In terms of pure beauty of the game, I actually think the 40 celluloid ball era was the best to watch, it allowed more crazy and beautiful exchanges than the 38mm ball, but still allowed for many more different styles than today at the highest level. Comparatively players today have all similar styles, choppers/defenders/blockers have basically disappeared from the top 50.
?????...... Ma Lin in the seventies?..... You know? in some ways your words make sense because at this classic match ma lin didn't look as a non born being, because, hey dear, he was born on 1980
Maybe You wanted to say that about Waldner according to his impressive years so kind of distant in time when it was this tt match, but i don't care, i will remember him forever the way he was on his prime, most of all on 1997 when he was a TABLE TENNIS MONSTER !
Yes it was, and JOW was one of the best at it. Timo Boll said Waldner was the toughest server he ever played against. It's clear in this match that Ma was thoroughly trained to read everything; Chinese coaches leave nothing to chance.
It was legal to hide your serves till late 2002, the serve rule changes went into effect around September 2002. This match is probably 2001 or 2002, judging from the fact that Waldner is using the Waldner Senso Carbon here instead of the Dicon.
@@-danR Maybe Waldner knew Ma could deal with most of his services thats why he started to serve long fast services in both ends, to take Ma out of his confortable zone
и никаких писков, визгов, фо, чоли, джоу и прочее.... и даже после последнего розыгрыша! Тогда считалось что возглосом можно отметить особо важное очко! А сейчас один в сетку подал другой кругами бегает по залу и пищит. По кадетам ездим, там парень из соседнего региона, понятно что он в призерах постоянно, но после каждого очка он повторяет все возможные возгласы да и не по одному разу.... кто такому учит и зачем я никогда понять не мог.
2 of my favorite legends of table tennis with complete different play. Tt was great back in the 90s, with the 21 pts system, cellu and smaller balls, masked serves, glue booster. Everything which made this sport so intense has been thrown away. And the result is that every year less and less players in clubs
Although this is already 11 point bigger celluloid ball and no masked serves...
@@JulienGaudfroy yes you are right I saw my mistake after. Those guys were still symbols of the previous table tennis. Maybe they didn't care about those changes who knows... They had to do with it as professional players anyway. But most of the guys I played with didn't appreciate those new rules and material, even if we had to accept it.
@ledorzejean-etienne3747 it is important not to be biased either. I don't think table tennis is less popular with the new plastic ball, numbers don't lie, even outside of China table tennis is one of the most popular sports in the world, more than in the nineties. The new ball allows for more exchanges and less discouragement at the amateur level than with the serves and crazy spin of the 38mm era, so more fun at the end for most people. In terms of pure beauty of the game, I actually think the 40 celluloid ball era was the best to watch, it allowed more crazy and beautiful exchanges than the 38mm ball, but still allowed for many more different styles than today at the highest level. Comparatively players today have all similar styles, choppers/defenders/blockers have basically disappeared from the top 50.
@@JulienGaudfroy This is simply not true, just a repetion of the lies told by the officials.
But we get a vulgar fist pump and lunatic screaming after every won point. Fair trade.
så jäddrans duktiga.gött mos
master JO Waldner
Super!
Back when Ma Lin didn't look like he was in his 70's
?????...... Ma Lin in the seventies?..... You know? in some ways your words make sense because at this classic match ma lin didn't look as a non born being, because, hey dear, he was born on 1980
And just by the record, Jan Ove Waldner was in fact a child when it was the decade you wrote
Maybe You wanted to say that about Waldner according to his impressive years so kind of distant in time when it was this tt match, but i don't care, i will remember him forever the way he was on his prime, most of all on 1997 when he was a TABLE TENNIS MONSTER !
You can see that monster nature from him in some flashing points he still did in this youtube video You're seeing : )
@@jorgealvarez4998 "In his 70s" means a person who is between 70 and 79 years old. He is saying that Ma Lin looks old (in an exaggerated way).
Уникални!
Космос для того времени!
J-O Waldner #1.
Top!
What year that match ?
2001
18:58 26:18
Was it legal back then to cover the serve? Anyone know what year was this?
Yes it was, and JOW was one of the best at it. Timo Boll said Waldner was the toughest server he ever played against. It's clear in this match that Ma was thoroughly trained to read everything; Chinese coaches leave nothing to chance.
It was legal to hide your serves till late 2002, the serve rule changes went into effect around September 2002. This match is probably 2001 or 2002, judging from the fact that Waldner is using the Waldner Senso Carbon here instead of the Dicon.
It changed around 2000. When istopped playing in 99 it was still legal and when I came back in 2007 it was no longer
@@-danR Maybe Waldner knew Ma could deal with most of his services thats why he started to serve long fast services in both ends, to take Ma out of his confortable zone
Waldner is already way past his prime in this match
That's right, but he beat Ma Lin in the 2004 Olympics so he still had something to give.
O yea
Way to old - but no respect!
и никаких писков, визгов, фо, чоли, джоу и прочее.... и даже после последнего розыгрыша! Тогда считалось что возглосом можно отметить особо важное очко! А сейчас один в сетку подал другой кругами бегает по залу и пищит. По кадетам ездим, там парень из соседнего региона, понятно что он в призерах постоянно, но после каждого очка он повторяет все возможные возгласы да и не по одному разу.... кто такому учит и зачем я никогда понять не мог.