Is The WiiM Mini BIGGER Than We Think It Is? : WiiM Mini vs Bluesound Node

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  • Опубліковано 3 вер 2022
  • In this video, I’ll talk about streamers! Oh wait, not gaming streamers but music hardware streamers!
    This, my friends, is the WiiM Mini which costs only about RM499 / USD99, and apparently this is becoming a favorite compared to this Bluesound NODE that costs RM2899 / USD599.
    Well, let's find out if the WiiM Mini is bigger than we think it is?
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  • @AdamLoboTV
    @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +3

    Alright guys, which is your pick? 😃

  • @otiv3554
    @otiv3554 Рік тому +9

    I can agree with few comments below, I tried Node and Primare Prisma and then Wiim, all streamers were connected to external dac (first two coaxs and optical with Wiim), there was zero difference in sound quality or sound profile, all played identical and all apps worked flawless, but when I saw how many music services Wiim support including even Soundcloud I sold Node and Prisma asap... and now they will release on december 15 Wiim Mini Pro version :)

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your feedback buddy

  • @Yowzoe
    @Yowzoe Рік тому

    Thank you for this overview. I am a simple guy and kind of slow with all things electronics. Here's my question:
    I have a pair of Sonos Ones and a Sonos Sub Mini, and I use AirPlay 2 (not the Sonos app) to stream music and podcasts. *All I want to do is add my home stereo setup to AirPlay so that I can have synced whole-house audio.* Will this device (or the Pro) get me there? Thanks.

  • @Bigjuergo
    @Bigjuergo Рік тому

    is the optical output a digital output so that i can bypass the internal dac of the WiiM?

  • @billygray2775
    @billygray2775 Рік тому +1

    Very entertaining video! This is the first of your videos I've watched. I want both. A Wiim for right now and a Bluesound later after I have the cash.

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Hey Billy thanks man, glad you found the video entertaining and thank you for your feedback!

  • @fulhamtarheel
    @fulhamtarheel Рік тому +1

    As a fan of physical media, I'm just getting into streaming. Got a WiiM Mini on the way.
    I'm sure it's a great device for people who are new into streaming, like myself, or have moderate to low-end systems.
    Node is for people who have really good sound systems or that know that streaming is their main source of musical enjoyment. Either way, you can't go wrong.

  • @jixianwang3564
    @jixianwang3564 Рік тому

    Can I use WilM Mini with my Samsung's version of Apple Music App?

  • @Pulsen74
    @Pulsen74 Рік тому

    I have a pair of Kef LSX .. Do i need something of those 2 products.? to get better sound
    And skip Kefs stream app

  • @johngutmanis3204
    @johngutmanis3204 Рік тому +1

    I was streaming Amazon prime from an iPad to Audioquest Cobalt DAC into Audioquest 3.5mm to RCA interconnect to my McIntosh c50 preamp. It sounded good, but I hated the cable on the floor, and the DAC dangling from the iPad.Then I introduced a WiiM mini with optical into the McIntosh c50 built in DAC. Wow great sound, eliminated the RCA cable off the floor, and kept the iPad as the remote. I really see no need to find a better streamer at this time. I am looking for a better DAC, but at this time I would have to spend more than 3K to top the DAC in the c50. The WiiM is crazy good!

  • @francescoruby8206
    @francescoruby8206 Рік тому

    Hi, Great review, but i would to say effectively if the wiim can send amazon music HD to external dac by toslink at 192khz

  • @NosEL34
    @NosEL34 Рік тому +4

    I own a WiiM..I've also had a Node as well as a more expensive streamer. With inputs/outputs and build quality the WiiM is outclassed by most everything. But with toslink out the WiiM is bit perfect, and can basically sound as good as the dac you choose to pair it with. Their Home app is as good or better than most others. I haven't found one that I really like..so they are all the same to me. I did notice a little distortion at high volumes with the WiiM, others I talked to didn't have this issue but I used an old Ipad switching power supply adapter I had laying around and now it plays super clean and quiet. Using the Toslink output into a good dac and I think it's a great device for just streaming music from a paid streaming service. I only use the WiiM now for all my streaming needs, I am extremely satisfied. You don't have to spend hundreds or thousands for quality hi res music streaming. People that use laptops or computers already knew this though lol

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +2

      Hey there, thank you very much for the extensive feedback man, very nicely written!

    • @Gadgetdad007
      @Gadgetdad007 Рік тому

      You probably need to go into the settings and select 1VRMS as yours is probably on 2VRMS.

    • @NosEL34
      @NosEL34 Рік тому

      @@Gadgetdad007 yeah I tried all that first, messed with the fixed output as well. I did notice that adjusting the output voltage did nothing for the digital output. I'm starting to think that it only effects the analog output. It could have been one of the frequent updates that fixed my issue, but the distortion was very audible when I cranked up the volume.. and after changing to a different "cheap" switching ac adapter it hasn't returned. So I'll leave it be

    • @NosEL34
      @NosEL34 Рік тому

      @@Gadgetdad007 I did read the 1vRms was equal to a 1.95v output, the 2v was equal to a 3.5db boost I believe

    • @klepp19
      @klepp19 Рік тому

      So no need to buy an expensive streaming transport like Lumin U2 mini?

  • @scottmakeig4021
    @scottmakeig4021 Рік тому

    Can I use a 5V/3A Ifi power supply with the Wiim? (it is rated for 5V/1A) ...

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 Рік тому

      Yes, a device will only draw the current it needs so you should be fine. Just be sure to get the polarity correct.

  • @JR-ho5qm
    @JR-ho5qm Рік тому +4

    Mini is great for a secondary garage system! 👍🏻🔈 Bluesound for your primary system.

  • @ThePieSnatcher
    @ThePieSnatcher Рік тому +1

    Good evening Adam, hope your having a great day! I honestly think that these streamers are for 2 totally different markets but comparing them really shows that the bluesound node is for a really niche market where the Wiim one is more widely applicable. Off course the bluesound node will sound a bit better but I’m sure for most people the small one will be all they need. What are you thoughts? Great video 👍 side question, what are those speakers on your desk, they look good

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +1

      Hey Hasan, welcome back buddy, Yeap it is for two different kind of people and I totally agree with you on that my friend. The WiiM Mini is still considered new hence I wanted to introduce it to everyone to let people know about it, so that they know they don’t have the only option for the Bluesound Node 😀

    • @ThePieSnatcher
      @ThePieSnatcher Рік тому +1

      I agree Adam, the Wiim mini is imo a better value for money as an external DAC plus the mini would sound better than the bluesound nude. I guess we’ll have to see what they come up with next

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      @@ThePieSnatcher Yeap!

  • @HaraHetta
    @HaraHetta Рік тому +1

    I have a node. And i choose it because of the hdmi earc.
    But when i plug ig to a tv via hdmi earc the volume droped by alot!!
    No eq as well.
    Wiim have 10 band eq!
    And the connection is NOT STABLE AT ALL!!
    If any of u guys planing to buy a NODE and connect it to a tv and soundbar, just dont.
    Big disapointment.

  • @34332
    @34332 Рік тому

    WiiM is of great value as a streamer for an external DAC of choice. Updates and support is topnotch and the latest addition is a manual adjustable EQ, not just presets.

  • @ThisIsJ3
    @ThisIsJ3 Рік тому +6

    Vote's on the mini - does the job well with a minimalist design 👍

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Hehe thanks for your feedback J and yes I'm with the Mini too! 😁

  • @Unboxing007
    @Unboxing007 Рік тому +1

    and the Wiim Mini is now MQA thanks to its last update ! A new Wiim Pro will also be released soon.... Certainly a Node Killer...

  • @nfaller89
    @nfaller89 Рік тому

    It's simple, get a node if you want your TV audio to go through your 2 channel hifi. The node allows me to run HDMI through my tv and use my tv remote to change the volume. This is great if you're living with someone who doesn't want to bother with multiple remotes. I don't have to use my dac as a switch.

  • @din3087
    @din3087 Рік тому +2

    I will go for the mini for its portability but who knows what the future holds as the blue node is suitable for those who have an audio system at home...🤔🤔🤔

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Hey brother, welcome back and thanks for your feedback too! I actually prefer the Mini too, hehe 😁

  • @spuddyl9938
    @spuddyl9938 Рік тому

    So the WiiM mini needs 5v usb c power. Is it included in the box?

  • @JC-lk3oy
    @JC-lk3oy Рік тому +9

    Imo if you use the Wiim Mini just as a streamer then it is hard to beat. They roll out software updates regularly and add lots of features. Also the app is very intuitive and works well. The built in dac is kind of crap though imo. So if you use the optical out to a quality Dac, it's great.

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +2

      Hey J C thanks for your feedback brother

  • @ReinKayomi
    @ReinKayomi Рік тому +3

    You're getting creative with the thumbnails

  • @craigd7738
    @craigd7738 Рік тому +1

    Very good video bro! 👍😎

  • @user-kx2yo7ve9w
    @user-kx2yo7ve9w Рік тому

    Hi I am using wiim with Dac cd player Denon dcd s10mk2 and the sound is very good.I use Tidal and the sound from the connect and wiim app is realy difrent (the connect sound better).Tell me what to use to take upgraid from the connect ?

  • @rosswarren436
    @rosswarren436 Рік тому +1

    Well, obviously the WiiM Mini's cheap built-in TI DAC and implementation can't be as good as the Node, but if you are planning on using a "better" external DAC anyway it would seem the WiiM Mini is the cost-effective way to go. I mean, the DAC inside the Node isn't "bad", but it seems about 60% or so of the people who own one end up buying a DAC in the $500 to $1500 range and not using the one in the Node. If that is your plan, then it seems dumb to pay for something you won't be using. Now, everyone talks about "jitter" and would the cheap Mini have worse jitter than the Node? Maybe. But then most DACs have their own built-in buffer and clock so all data gets sequenced properly even if it has a little jitter when it comes into the buffer, so it might be a moot point.

  • @sonnygsmith3207
    @sonnygsmith3207 Рік тому

    I already have an external dac so WIIM mini for me. Or, I may go with the WIIM Pro.

  • @kevpage
    @kevpage 7 місяців тому +1

    What a thoroughly likeable fella he is

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words buddy

  • @Unboxing007
    @Unboxing007 Рік тому +2

    Nope the digital output is bit perfect.... so you can have a 24/192 output for an external DAC ;-)

  • @thegreatempire3882
    @thegreatempire3882 Рік тому +2

    The mojo plus mini also costs more than $250 than the node... At that point I might as well buy the node.

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Thanks for your feedback buddy

    • @StillAliveAndKicking_
      @StillAliveAndKicking_ Рік тому

      You can get a better DAC than the Mojo for at least half the price, probably a lot less. I had a Mojo, it’s over hyped.

  • @DrHouse-zs9eb
    @DrHouse-zs9eb Рік тому

    How about android?

  • @HEROCHARMS1997
    @HEROCHARMS1997 Рік тому +1

    great vids im a new subscriber woohoo

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Hey man, welcome to the channel and thanks for the subscription too

  • @noob-cr4eg
    @noob-cr4eg Рік тому +2

    👍👍

  • @epi2045
    @epi2045 Рік тому

    The Wiim is great for someone who has a good dedicated DAC and wants to add wireless connection and turn their DAC into a streamer.

  • @angeli89
    @angeli89 Рік тому +3

    Ok 👌 as always 😊 is a great video ☺️

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Angel! Long time no see, hope you are well? 🙂

    • @angeli89
      @angeli89 Рік тому +1

      @@AdamLoboTV just silently watching my friend 🤭

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +1

      @@angeli89 haha don't la always silently watch, say hello next time again k 😁

    • @angeli89
      @angeli89 Рік тому +1

      @@AdamLoboTV haha 😂 ok ok 😅 till next video then☺️

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +1

      @@angeli89 hehe I better see you there!

  • @Arthur-jc5ig
    @Arthur-jc5ig Рік тому

    Questions here.
    1. It says High Res but what if I stream music using Spotify? Spotify music source seems like not High Res, would I get High Res/better sound quality from it?
    2. Most of the people saying the DAC is a crap, I do not own any DAC and have no plan to get 1 for now. If I plug in my earphones into the Wiim Mini, would them sound better?

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 Рік тому

      Of course you won't get High Rez lossless from Spotify. They are still using 320kbps OGG or mp3 files. But the WiiM will pass through whatever you feed it up to 24-bit/192Kbps.
      I currently just use Tidal Hi-Fi (CD quality without the MQA mumbo-jumbo) and am happy. In fact, I liked the WiiM Mini so much I bought another one for a Schiit based headphone DAC/amp combo stack.
      You need to plug the Mini into an amp of some kind and plug your headphones into the amp. The 1/8" mini output on the Mini is line level only with 2V peaks for connection to an amp or a preamp. The cheap TI DAC in the Mini can get you by just fine, but even a low cost Schiit Modi DAC will offer a significant upgrade (be more punchy and clear with more dynamics).

  • @Vernonchan
    @Vernonchan Рік тому +2

    The Node for the more serious enthusiasts with more complex setups but the Mini for everybody else. Sweet video!

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Thanks for your feedback abang, super on point with what you said!

    • @JC-lk3oy
      @JC-lk3oy Рік тому +6

      I have to disagree. If you are using an external dac then the sound quality is equal between the 2. The app on the wiim mini is also very good, not quite blue os good, but it's closer than it has any right to be. I like the wiim's app better than anything other than Blue OS.

    • @seaneckhart9914
      @seaneckhart9914 Рік тому +3

      What type of "enthusiasts" uses the dac on the Node?

    • @mohdpazli
      @mohdpazli Рік тому

      @@JC-lk3oy yup have to agree with you..heck if wiim release something like "wiim light" with out built in dac just pure streamer..it will be a better option for some

    • @williemclean3224
      @williemclean3224 Рік тому +1

      The WiiM mini sounds great period. Try one and you will see.

  • @lehudphotowork
    @lehudphotowork Рік тому +3

    Mini seems so worth it

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому

      Yeah man, and I love how tiny the fella is too🙂

  • @willmac5642
    @willmac5642 Рік тому

    The thing with Bluesound is the product has minor updates and altho they say the product uses 'the latest' chips, it's just not true. Pi4 has more up to date components 🙄

  • @lanx0003
    @lanx0003 Рік тому

    What the *uck! I laugh. But, seriously, I found the mini sounds a bit soft, not as dynamic, as I like compared to the iFi Zen Stream. Stereophile commented the same. But it has nice proposition for the price point.

  • @vicluu8026
    @vicluu8026 Рік тому

    WAIT for the Wiim Pro. Much more flexible than the original Wiim.

  • @darkentity94
    @darkentity94 Рік тому +4

    Hmmm...69 🤣🤣

    • @AdamLoboTV
      @AdamLoboTV  Рік тому +1

      Hahaha it always gets me 🤣

  • @pixelrancher
    @pixelrancher Рік тому +1

    I pick 69

  • @ENGLISHISBEST
    @ENGLISHISBEST Рік тому

    They can improve its looks, you have a lovely hifi system then put this cheap lookin plastic puck next to it, I would pay an extra £10 for aesthetics.