@@tittykittycookie2382 YES.👏👏👏 Thank you! 👏👏👏 All the little faces he made to the camera during the video, i knew something was off. Not to mention, we were all thinking he was about to upload a conspiracy video, but he went with this instead - so we would all be in the 'investigation mode' I'm so glad I'm not the only one haha 😂
Her personality screams someone who was abused. Her overly nice attitude seems like someone who puts up a wall of defense and someone who is scared to say the wrong thing
Natalie Belsha apologizing alot & for everything is a sign of abuse/trauma..People get frustrated with me &remind me I don’t need to say sorry for the littlest things but it’s a defense mechanism& takes a very long time counseling etc to get in check you aren’t just apologizing you genuinely feel bad. I’m praying for her its so hard to see
Gigi Luciani You don’t have to be or been in a relationship or have/had a spouse to have gone through abuse.. you can be abused just as badly, if not WORSE by your own parents & family.
A twenty some year old woman comes across as a preteen. She is re-enacting a time of innocence and stuck in a time warp. I hope she finds healing along the way.
@@effyaddams Mona Taylor just described Borderline Personality disorder down to a tee. Textbook.. Eating disorders can be a in relation to another disorder especially in relation to what her family is allegedly doing to her.
@@heatherstorck7204 Possibly. though, I think we would get more evidence of bpd if we were to witness different interpersonal relationships. The thing about bpd is, it can be full-blown bpd or just certain traits In a person who was abused. it's warped personality from maladaptive coping mechanisms in early childhood. I've read somewhere that a person's personality is fully realized by age 6. I know this girl had to have been abused all of her life. I was.
I had a feeling abuse of some form was involved. She’s not just nice, she’s stunted. She acts too young for her age, it’s like she’s stuck on the things that would make a child happy. And not just for the aesthetic.
Dad abused Daughter. Mom is jealous of Daughter. Drinks to cover up her issues. Blames Daughter for her own self short comings. Rinse and repeat. It's clear as day.
Mom is obese no her daughter being skin and bones is no big deal. It sorta reminds me of when I would get bullied for being "anorexic" (Luckily I've never had an eating disorder, I'm just naturally slim like my mom) and when I would confront girls who were often heavier set for saying it they couldn't see that it was also an insult and hurtful to call me that.
Dude don't be talking about her dad like that unless you f*cking have proof to show its true. Going around accusing men of that sh*t is f*cked up of you!!
@@ralinem.8950 accusing someone of a very serious crime with no proof is bs. Obviously that family has some issues but we can't just come to conclusions because of a video or a reading.
She says she was homeschooled because she was bullied so bad but what if she was pulled out of school so her family could have more control over her life.
And she was most likely bullied because of being raised in a psychologically abusive household. I know this because my mom and sister are sociopaths. I’ve been abused by both sexes throughout my life, and I personally feel like the psychological abuse from the females (especially a MOM, somebody you are always supposed to be able to run to, rely on, trust and receive unconditional love from) was the WORST. Narcissistic Sociopaths just do SO MANY horrible things and lack the ability to feel for anybody..it is like they aren’t even human...no child should have to grow up to become an adult that needs to recover from their childhood.
But if doesn’t make sense...the locks are on the inside which is normal. Yes there was an excessive amount of locks but unless they’re locking her outside... I really think the lock conspiracy is a stretch. I DEFINITELY believe that her mother is a predator and harming her daughter, but I just don’t see the issue with the locks (other than it being a little odd and overprotective, maybe even paranoid)
Yes, the mother’s food issues often are the cause of eating disorders in her children. I know it’s clichè to blame the mother, but in this instance there are studies indicating it’s a cause.
Exactly. Remember when Eugenia said in the doc that she's been very thin since she was really young and they even showed a picture? It clearly has nothing to do with high metabolism. *Where were the parents and why weren't they feeding their CHILD?* This has clearly been going on for ages.
I thought the same thing. I thought it was interesting that she wasn't around, considering she's usually around in most of Eugenia's videos. I think that she was somewhere in the house in Shane's video tbh.
Exactly! And it seemed weird that Eugenia didn't know where she was. You think the mom would at least show herself if someone like Shane was coming to the house.
Lisa Holly I thought the same and shouldn’t she have been there to be supportive. I mean even the brother showed up in the video briefly. It gave me a really weird vibe that the mom didn’t show up.
I feel like Shane left the door part in on purpose. I feel like Shane tried to leave any clues he could, but if her mom has as firm of a grip on her life as everyone says, Shane needed to play by her rules. Yikes.
yes I think this too because he asked a really important question on that moment, about her friends and if they were there for her and I think he did it there (if you think about it, it was a weird place to ask a big sustancial question) so he could include that part of the video without further explanation to the lawyer?
Agree I believe shane knows a lot more but could not ask or bring up certain topics because her family would watch it. I believe he has a plan and the best way to help her is to just be a friend and build trust and not piss off her mom otherwise he’d be blocked out like Jaclyn is now🤔 for instance instead of flat out saying her mom is part of the problem he may just encourage her to move somewhere else or to go to his place more and slowly get her more independent but idk. I feel like Shane is smart as well as Eugenia so I hope as they get closer this situation gets better.
Don't forget the lawyer was there. Compare how he question everything and everyone in the Logan Paul video and then look at Eugenia's. It's completely different. I mean he might have been afraid to dig in and ask questions at her house. He usually would have asked those questions at his house for the summary part of his video.
Best way is for us to go to other bigger UA-camrs comments and tell them to watch him. Like go to Jaclyn’s video and tell them to go to Ant and watch this ☺️
Y'all Shane isn't stupid. He knows. He just had such legal restrictions so he did what he could. Watch the video again. There's certain scenes he highlights that really raise eyebrows. I feel like he knew his video would raise red flags and get attention. This was all apart of the plan
Lindsey O'Reilly I agree 100% why put the unlocking the door scene if you didn’t want to highlight that and even the part where he asks where her mom is.
@@jessielynch7493 I believe the Mafia thing, just because of the way the house looks and how weird it is, but I do think her mother may have put it in her head that that's why the door was like that just to cover up that she's being completely controlled
I’m so glad I wasn’t alone her room literally looks like....a room I’ve seen on any crime show dealing with kidnap and sexual abuse or even just her being confined in that house . Her not knowing how to open the door was a red flag for me also
My room Looks like that but I have abandonment issues my mother had post party mand I was emotionally neglected she feed and clothe me but was emotionally checked out, My formative bond was with my father and grandparents
In a stream she even heard someone outside her door she just talks about it and calls out to someone (no one answers but she still hears someone on the other side.) but she doesnt open the door to check making me think that she didnt want to open it and have it possibly be locked, showing she cant leave. (this is just speculation of what I think could allegedly be happening because it didnt sit right with me that she wouldn't just open the door even just a crack so she could check for her self not even the people on the stream)
She could have been acting, you know playing the little girl innocent I dont know how to do anything.If you have seen other videos you see she often says to her mother I dont know how to do this,be it digging a hole or stirring food in a bowl.
Eugenia has a video from a few years ago called "Curling my hair" and at the 5:25 mark, you can hear people screaming "But you're gonna kill her!" "But i want the money" I really think she left that in there on purpose.
And if she had accidentally left it in, there’s hundreds of comments about it and the time stamps etc. She would of had to have seen her mistake by now. Unless it’s intentional
Jenny Markova He held back on A LOT. I think he gave us secrets though in the video, at least that I’ve picked up on. The door, asking the last thing she was mad about (maybe trying to get her to open up about her reality), getting the lawyer on film.. A lot of things were shown that are really starting to put the real story together.
No one starves themselves because they feel good enough. It thrives on perfectionism and isolations and as someone who was abused, I say that house reaks of mental abuse.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who was underwhelmed by Shane’s video. It didn’t accomplish anything, she didn’t admit to anything really. Love Shane but it was a flop to me
Erica Gibson I think it was the catalyst to get Eugenia help. Shane isn’t stupid he gave us clues all over that video! I’m sure there is something he didn’t show us because he claimed the video would get him sued but what he showed us wouldn’t get him sued.... ya know?
Erica Gibson She doesn’t have to admit anything though. If she didn’t feel completely comfortable yet telling every detail of her journey that’s her right. Some of you are way too entitled to others lives.
I met her once in person while I was working at Disneyland, she was with her mom and her brother. The way she acted was very reserved and timid. She lit up when I said hi to her but for the most part she was so withdrawn. I've seen her a few times at Disney as she frequented my attraction and each time she acted the same. She seemed like a little girl afraid of speaking up in front of her mother. I'm sure some of it was she was tired but I'm positive a lot of it was also the relationship between her and her mom.
Rainbow Melody YES. My whole life changed the day I moved out. No more weekly migraines, got my own anorexia under control, so much less stress. My mom was always so evil to me and we worked at the same place and she would put on this persona of being the “best mom” and leave me fresh fruit when just the other day she would refuse to buy me groceries and say it’s my “dads turn” to buy me food. I dropped out of high school to work so I could buy healthy food for myself (My parents pretty much ate noodles, rice and fast food and I wanted to eat healthy). Eugenia has got to move away from mom STAT.
Mother is jealous of daughter as father has unhealthy thoughts and behaviors towards daughter. Mother blames daughter for this. This family is so disturbed and I hope daughter escapes this prison she is living in. I’m wondering if mother has control of her money?
Did you see the clip of Eugenia’s dad saying “you don’t look a day over 14”? I got a really sick feeling from that clip with him. If you haven’t you should look it up.
@@animallover5626 omg yes, people in the comments also said this isnt the first time he's commented on her looks. She also said "did you hear that? my dad said I look 14." or something maybe thats her emphasizing to her audience? Aka leaving breadcrumbs
Pink Poppet I LITERALLY HAD THE SAME THOUGHT!!!! I would not be surprised to find out moms is jealous and has slowly been making sure her daughter stays sick. Either that she knew her mom was feeling some sort of way towards her and she developed the disorder to get away from her with the help of others that are concerned about her. Either way, this is just a very weird and sad case. I really hope she gets out of it and is able to recover with people that truly care about her.
Her dad is in the picture. Apparently he has a record for drink driving, he has also been seen in videos saying really strange things to Eugenia. Youre so right about things being off. Ive been digging for years and there is so much wrong. I also feel in my gut something is very wrong.
Girl same I’ve been following her since middle school over 10 years now I swear half the shit people are just finding out I’ve known for years and have never known how to feel or wtf to do with the info I never in my life thought that it would even get to a point where she somewhat admit to having a problem!
Eugenia has a very nervous defensive energy about her, a lot of people I know who have suffered through abuse or trauma as a child who are extremely nice and cautious about saying for the wrong things. It's also common for people who were sexually abused or assaulted at a you age to develop eating disorders
I get incest vibes from that whole family, very disturbing and sad. Brother draws nude pictures of her, dad telling her how pretty she looks (ie "not a day over 14", etc) and mom takes lewd photoshoots of her... just a bad vibe all around. She is beyond help, we will only know what her friends say and she will most likely die without telling her story. Its awful to see this all happening in real time and not be able to do anything
Maybe Shane did this documentary to bring these things to light since he wasn’t able to bring out any real information from Eugenia. He probably knows what’s going on and can’t really help because of suing issues. Idk
I'm thinking he left things up to the imagination because he doesn't have the time to dig deeper and investigate. I don't think he's gonna address it anymore because of how much he has going on.
During this whole vid I was just getting the message sexual abuse over and over in my head. I feel like the eating disorder was started to make herself less attractive and wanted. ALLEGEDLY.
Alex Mercado same...I think that’s why the dad is gone, and alcoholic now and her mom watches her like a hawk...making sure he stays away but she also deep down resents Eugenia for it happening and that’s the “twisted” relationship part I feel...she doesn’t care if she’s well, dead or alive honestly....Allegedly lol Just my feels...and my opinion
Alex Mercado SAME your so right , did anyone see the live stream where her dad walked in and started complimenting her in a super creepy way, he said it over and over again how beautiful she looked and how good she looked, this was on multiple live streams and weirded me out so much. There’s been many rumors about him being an alcoholic and there being some sort of sexual assault with him and her
This is giving me chills. Shane set this up to free Eugenia. Jeffree Star said he wants to meet Eugenia and knowing his past with his mother, he might help her. Shane's very smart and shined light on her situation and shined a light on all the locks on the door for a reason. Shes still struggling.
I get sexual abuse vibes from the dad. I think your reading is on point. I got all the same feelings. Love you, Ant. Hoping Eugenia can escape and one day tell it all.
Yeah there’s a video where she’s live streaming and it’s her birthday. Her dad comes home from work and says hey, she gets really nervous and says “hey I’m on a livestream”. He then proceeds to wish her a happy birthday or something like that, cause it was her birthday. She relays that to the livestream. Then he says, “you don’t even look this age”, I think she must have been older, but he says to her “you look 13, 14” as a compliment. Super weird comment and Eugenia gets visibly uncomfortable too, but brushes it off. Ever since this encounter in this video, I always thought something was off about their relationship. I think he sexually abused her and her only way of getting away was constantly having the camera on: basically live-streaming. Cause no abuser wants to be caught red handed abusing. What they said is not verbatim, but I can’t remember exactly how the encounter goes, I’m sure the video is still up somewhere
@@ItsPastelHoney see. and my sister thought it too. i feel like we as humans can pick up shit at times. i feel like theres a truth to it because this is not a thought people just have lol and this many people have felt that too
All the reversed cards scare me..oh my.. And i get this really sick feeling everytime her dad is brought up. I almost dont even want to to type it out to put out into the universe but I almost feel like maybe there were inappropriate situations between father and daughter and the mother got jealous of her daughter instead of being angry at the dad and making him leave the family. I just have a sick feeling when her dad is brought up and when you add in the possible alcohol problems, it seems like a big nasty mess.
This channel has the biggest, weirdest assumptions I've ever seen. You guys don't even follow your instinct, you just hear everyone saying bad things and you're following. This video is the stupidest shot e ever seen and I love tarot readings.
@@jaxo5679 you must not have been following the Eugenia situation. You must be new to all of this because you sound ignorant. The UA-cam Community has been trying to get Eugenia help for over five years. It's now just turning into a big blow up recently but Eugenia situation has been in Dire Straits with a big handful of UA-camrs reporting about it for over 2 years now.
That's exactly what i got out of it. Her parents told her all about mafia previously owning the house and how the locks and things are to keep scary people out, when in reality it's to keep her locked in! They brought the boogeyman to life to scare her. I honestly hope the parents and everyone else involved will be investigated and she'll be removed from the home if they're found unfit. You can't heal in the environment that helped make you sick.
Greta I honestly thought this as well. She seemed very nervous talking about “the Mafia” and I honestly think it’s because she’s actually talking about her family. It’s creepy as hell.
Shane isn’t dumb, he loves investigating and conspiracy theories, I think he knows all of this about his mom ect, maybe he left little Easter eggs throughout the video in hopes to open up conversations to get her help and to get her away from her family eventually
Kristen Pursell he has to find ways of sneaking the clues in even with the lawyer following them around the whole video. I found that absolutely terrifying. My question through that was, why would a grown woman going through something like this need a lawyer to make sure certain things aren’t said 🤔 What are they hiding???
She may have been willing to talk, but the fact that her or her mom's lawyer was there during the whole interview leads me to believe that they don't want her talking. I think Shane did the best he could for what he was allowed to do.
They didn't trust Shane because he's good at getting information out of people because he is sweet or trust worthy they know how to deal with Eugenia but not shane. the only way is through Eugenia and through contract and at their house and witness to back up everything is it weird that I think they ask for a copy or they had their own recording that he doesn't know of? I'm just saying reputation can be everything to some either you'll get in trouble or lose something. That's my intake
I watched the video, but didn't know they had a lawyer there 👀 that is so sad. Her family is trying to hide the abuse. I'm going to have to watch it again, but like others said, that video didn't give any insight to what was actually going on with her.... unfortunately that video was a let down, but it makes sense if they had lawyers there 🙄🤐
If her mom is controlling her account/social media she posts, she may have made her sign a contract not allowing her to talk about the family or certain subjects. I get the feeling her mom is extremelyyyyyy involved in what she posts
@@savannahcarter1749 have you noticed on Eugenias "trying on Jeffrees stars makeup" video she just posted, her bedroom door is open a few inches. Makes me wonder if mom was listening to her record
My God, I hope she slipped Shane Dawson a note when the lawyer glanced away! And someone gets her out of that madhouse before she loses her life. This is chilling.
@@LightandDarkSavior she is a young woman who was forced by her mother to pretend to be sick. "Munchausen syndrome by proxy". The mom wanted attention and money by exploiting her "sick" daughter. She even got a house from it. She forced her daughter to pretend to have all sorts of illnesses and even pretend she was paralyzed. Her daughter snapped and started a relationship with a boy and they planned to kill gypsys mother, to basically free gypsy from her mothers control. He did it and they are both in jail now.
@@tacobelle6680 Oh my, that's extremely sad. I can see how it relates to Euginia's case. This time, her mom would be pushing her to have a disorder to get the money, equally horrific.
I think her mom is living through her. Like her mom is dressing her up like a doll and controlling every aspect of her life and making her feel like everything's normal.
I came back and watched this again almost a year later and OMG. I just picked up on something I totally missed the first time, when you talk about how she might have a "deep rooted issue" with her dad, and how she could be "feeling the blame," something just smacked me in the face and it’s literally making me sick. So sometimes when I watch these readings I’ll get a very clear picture in my head along with a pit in my gut and that’s what happened when you started talking about her dad and "blame" and "guilt." I want to share what I’m feeling, but I want to do it as delicately as possible. So, I’ve seen videos where her dad is acting kind of creepy. Telling her how pretty she looks and how young she looks, and while that in itself isn’t creepy it’s just the way he says it. So how do I say this...? Sometimes when a father has been "inappropriate" with his daughter and hurts her, the mother blames the daughter instead of the disgusting father. Especially if the mother has other...problems. This is the exact scenario I saw when you were doing this reading. Her father hurt her and her mother, instead of leaving the father and placing the blame squarely where it should be, _on him,_ she blamed Eugenia and now Eugenia feels guilty. People who have been hurt like that often blame themselves anyways, so having her mother blame her too, essentially confirmed in her mind that, yes it _is_ my fault. Which is why Eugenia struggles with her issues. And it is issueS, plural. Not just the ED. The ED is just an outward manifestation of all the issues she’s dealing with (or more precisely _not_ dealing with.) That’s the most PG way I can say it, and obviously it’s just my own gut intuition, but that’s what I saw. I hope and pray Eugenia can get _away_ from these people, get _real_ help and be able to live a free, independent and happy life very soon. 🙏🏻 (Edit: also, obviously what happened _was not_ Eugenia’s fault. AT ALL. I’m just saying that in her mind she may have had feelings of guilt which are not uncommon in those situations, and then if her mother blamed her _too,_ it just validated _in her mind_ that she really was to blame. Which would fuck _anyone_ up.)
Completely agree. I don't know about the mum's reaction so won't comment on that, but yes, she's most likely been harmed in that way by dad, brother or both. I picked up on that in the reading, for sure.
well weight differences can definitely affect a person's facial features and obv Eugenia and her mother have a big weight difference, also her alternative style
This is serious and I also think something is really wrong and I am scared for her. But I'm laughing at how often you have to say "allegedly" "for entertainment purposes only".
I thought it was COMPLETELY BIZARRE that she said her treatment facility “didn’t tell her what her diagnosis was.” That’s not something that they keep from you when you’re in treatment. How do you fix a problem that you don’t know you have?!?
Suemy Merida For people who are only beginning to get help for anorexic eating disorders they usually start with foods that are more appetizing for the patient so i dont think that’s that much of a red flag.
Suemy Merida as someone who has an ed those foods can be trigger foods and to start them out with those could eliminate those feelings, it’s not quite about healthy nutrition it’s more about getting over fears essentially
I got the feeling that Eugenia hasn't been in that house in a long time-it's like she wasn't familiar with her own home PLUS it's the middle of JULY & she had a CHRISTMAS wreath on a CHRISTMAS wreath hanger on her front door!!
It made me wonder if the video was actually recorded a while ago and they just held on to it until she was ready for it to be released, but then they talked about the James Charles scandal and that messed up my assumed timeline. The house seemed like a “prop” for sure.
She could quite possibly have used You Tube for her protection. As long as she's in front of the camera she's safe. A lot of strange things have occured during her life streams. I also think that Eugenia's illness enabled her mother to keep her under control. Keep her silent. When I look at Eugenia I literally feel like I am looking at my younger self. The same strange family Dynamic and the mother daughter control, the isolation, the eating disorder and everything! The only way people knew how to get involved was through police. I tried to escape many times. I was so depleted and numb, the fact I was dying never phased me. There were many ambulance situations, my mom would find out after I was admitted. I had two close calls between age 26-29. I began having seizures more frequently and became emotionless. My next admission would be different. My mother took me. I lost complete motorskills and I could not feel my limbs. I was turning blue and gasping for air. My mother was told that my next 24 hours were critical and needed to gather up the family. That's is the beginning of a huge change. going to die unless I was admitted. I needed to be on an IV and monitored 24/7. I had so much support and love from people all of my mom's side of the family I thought never cared. I later found out that close friends and family members from my dad's side were turned away. My mom put a halt to them showing me their concern and support by telling them I wasn't allowed any more visitors. My parents were divorced. My Dad and I were very close but after her had his stroke a few years prior he wasn't really the same. He was more of my best friend than an authority Anyways, in my life. he whole situation really came into perspective for me from the number 62. Numbers are the one thing that make sense and cannot be manipulated in a hospital. 5'4, 62 lbs, 30 years old sounds all wrong to me. To make matters worse I was wheelchair bound the whole month I was in hospital. Coming to this realization I had built up a lot of anger, resentment. It was hard and there were a lot of tears. A lot of tears though is better than none. Over time I began getting stronger and restoring my broken life and broken relationships. Three years later when I lost my Dad very suddenly. The love of my life was not longer with me. As lost as I was,I never let pain or fear come between me of my health ever again. I am 35 now and things are different. I have changed. I have a great respect and love for myself for the things I have overcome. I see the same for Eugenia. I think now that she sees she's getting attention in a positive way and realized how much of an impact she has on other people will push her to remain healthy so she can live her best life. Before she was getting an audience for the wrong reasons which only inspired her to get worse possibly reading people wouldn't watch her videos anymore. Now she knows that is not the case.
I feel like you and other people like you should go public with videos. Maybe this will wake Eugenia up that she's not alone. I feel like that would be very traumatic for you to make a video but if somehow you can do that I think people could help learn a lot. People who do not deal with eating disorders do not understand Eugenia or her family. I'm so glad you're feeling better now by the way!!
Financial abuse and Munchausen by proxy, the driver and lawyer are working for her mother, not for her. She seems like a prisoner in her own home, her room is for show, and her house isn't her own. As a nurturing protective mother, this gave me feelings of dread for her safety.
I remember watching a video of hers a while ago where they’re at Disney world and Eugenia leaves the hotel by herself to go to magic kingdom.. then her mom calls her and tells her she needs to come back to the hotel because there’s an “incident” or some thing weird like that. Then Eugenia was gonna get the monorail back to her hotel and her mom told her to walk instead. Meanwhile everyone else in the background of the video were fine (no one freaking out like if there had been an incident). The whole video gave me a weird feeling tbh.
And her pink room is in the basement. Her room is in the basement of a house that she physically can't open the back door to..... I really believe she's not ok
Carrie Kup I’m gonna be honest. Seeing her with Shane and smiling gave me such a good feeling. But having thought more about the various things throughout the video - the lawyer, her mom, not being able to open her door - it all made me feel weird again. I do genuinely hope she can and will and IS talking to Shane or someone else that can help her
I think the breadcrumbs are the worrying parts in Shane's video. Maybe he's the person she's told everything to but he can't put all the stuff her mother does in his video because the mother/lawyer wouldn't allow it. So him and euginia came up with the plan to put little 'breadcrumbs' (not knowing how to unlock the door, the mother disappearing, etc) to direct the audience's attention to the situation between her and her mother? Even the way these parts were edited by Shane with creepy music alludes affects how the audience perceive the situation. Maybe it's all part of her plan to get out.
Wond3r Gurll She’s not allowed to go anywhere,they have a “driver”to take her places but never alone.They have locks on doors that she never knew about...
Róisín RIGHT!! The way Shane would look at the camera made it look like he knew what was really going on. Especially when they were talking about the door. I don’t know
Eugenia cooney literally has to call her mom to go upstairs. She doesn't even have permission to do that. You read that completely truly! You've done it yet again
What if she doesn’t have an eating disorder and her parents are starving her or something? Her personality seems very young like they have kept her hidden away and she never grew up.. man I hope I’m not right.. I usually have pretty good intuition 😕
I don't think Shane's video was underwhelming, it was perfect. Eugenia was leaving clues in her videos, so Shane did the same why do you think we are all here and felt something was off, Shane wanted us to see what was actually happening. Jaclyn explained to us why we were feeling this way due to her giving details. Shane said he could get sued so he left clues to try and get the info out but not get sued because the lawyer was there and Shane made sure we knew he was there. Pray for Eugenia!
@@sinontherocks I get where you're coming from however it's taken this long to do one episode because all of the shady things going on behind the scenes and trying to figure out how to execute it without causing problems. We're not looking too much into it. Shane is very meticulous and incredibly intelligent there's no way its that cut and dry.
I can’t get this story out of my head. I know she’s crying out for help, and I don’t want to assume anything but I keep coming back to Shane’s video and Ant’s comments that Shane isn’t stupid, he knows what he’s doing. He’s a great filmmaker and this wasn’t it. He wouldn’t make something like this without substance. Ant says they left clues and breadcrumbs so if he’s right, there are some things I picked up on. I could be reading WAY too far into this, but I can’t shake this story. I’m so worried about this girl and I’ve never heard of her before Shane.. -a 5150 is an involuntary hold for 72 hours. If Eugenia’s mother truly believed she didn’t need help, would she really enter her into a rehab program after? I PRAY that she did. But I found it super interesting that when Shane and Eugenia were talking on her bed, the video went back and forth between Katy’s comments and Eugenia’s responses. They were eerily similar. Now it could obviously be that Katy knows what it’s like and Eugenia has experienced it, but What if Eugenia never went to a program and that was scripted? We now know that Katy knew Eugenia’s background because Jaclyn was communicating with her. But she clearly stated “I don’t know her story.” Because she’s not her patient, Katy could have taken the information she received from jaclyn and shared it with Shane. At the same time, Ant said that Eugenia made some revelations while in treatment, so this could be way off. -obviously the lawyer being there was odd, answering the door, etc. but Shane made it known at every opportunity. He mentioned and showed him whenever he could. Why is this guy okay with whatever is going on? There’s got to be more to him. Either he’s shady and he’s the eyes and ears for the mom, or he’s team Shane and a way for the mom to trust the video would be done the way she wanted. -Eugenia has never dressed so conservative. She’s usually very exposed so it’s strange that she is so covered up. Her face looked better, but she knows how to use makeup as she’s said and could easily add color and life to what could be pale and fragile skin, ALLEGEDLY. As for her saying that her hair was never an issue, I’m not buying it. It’s long, but it looks thin and brittle. -in the beginning of the video Shane tells Katy he’s watched Eugenia’s videos and noticed that her voice has changed and gotten higher over time . He says that he doesn’t know if he’s going to get the real, authentic Eugenia, or a character that’s covering something up. 1. This shows that Shane has taken a considerable amount of time to look into Eugenia’s videos and he picks up on small details like tone of voice. There’s no way he didn’t pick up on other inconsistencies and oddities in her life. 2. The “character” voice Shane is referring to is High pitched with a lot of “likes,” the same version of Eugenia we got in his interview with her. Almost as if to show that this isn’t her, her guard is up and it’s not authentic. - Shane says to Andrew that he’s nervous as he gets close to their house, which is understandable on such a touchy subject. But then andrew says he’s nervous too. I mean maybe he was, but most of the time he’s just capturing these moments and while it’s not easy, I’m not sure it would warrant nervousness. Unless they knew they were going in there to film clues and it had to be done right if it was going to work. - the big hero poster was referenced twice, which I know multiple people have referenced, but I think it’s important. Baymax is a selfless hero who cares for others, much like Shane. - while it’s obvious Eugenia loves makeup, I wonder if they stressed that purposefully to give Shane a reason to return. It would be a connection between the two and if Shane drops off makeup to visit with Eugenia it’s not as suspicious as randomly stopping in. - Shane made sure we knew Eugenia was unfamiliar with the house. She stumbled over where her mother was and where the sound was coming from in the kitchen. She said her mother was around somewhere as she had just been there, but then awkwardly says she travels back and forth from Connecticut. For someone that rarely lets her daughter out of the house and has hired a driver that stays parked outside when she does leave, I’m doubting she would jet back and forth to Connecticut. The 4 locks on the door to the outside had to be opened by Shane because Eugenia didn’t know how to work them or how many were there, and he stepped to the side to ensure andrew caught all of the locks on camera. Also, They stopped at the wallpaper? Eugenia said it came with the house. So they haven’t made any updates? That wallpaper is old and outdated and has none of Eugenia’s aesthetic. The house does not seem like hers at all, except for her room. The awkwardly placed table and chairs that no one has sat in.. The stove flashing the time because it had not been set.. - the makeup that Shane got for Eugenia from Jeffree.. the lipstick she chose to use was called control freak. But she said she would be using ‘I’m the boss’ soon. - Eugenia said her friends were bullies as Shane just stared at her emotionless without comment or question. Eugenia said they never cared but then tried to make decisions for her. But then she said there were people who genuinely cared for her, to which Shane inserts a clip of her father walking into her room while she’s streaming and says hi to her. Is this their way of saying that her friends are actually the ones that cared and her father is the one that has caused more harm than good?? Seems strange to put that Clip in that spot. But of course Eugenia can’t say that her friends are caring people because there’s a lawyer watching her every step and her mother is lurking somewhere in the house. -I’m wondering if Eugenia’s mother has guardianship over her. I know she’s 24 but if they applied for guardianship because of an eating disorder, claiming Eugenia was too sick to make decisions for herself, her mother would make all decisions for her, legally and medically. And the mother would need to keep her unwell in order to maintain the guardianship and control. Okay I’ll stop. This is all complete speculation, my personal opinions and ALLEGED. and is only a result of me being concerned for Eugenia’s well being. I know that I could be looking at things too much and taking things way too far none of this adds up to me. Don’t come for me!
-in one of Eugenia’s older videos she opens a dresser drawer and it is filled with Teeth whiteners. Eugenia even says she didn’t realize she had so many. So she says her teeth are fine, but she’s also been whitening them regularly. I whiten my teeth too, but it was brought up in Shane’s video that her teeth have never been affected. That may be the case of course, but the whitener would also hide any signs if it were untrue. -another video shows Eugenia shopping and walking outside in the rain. Because she was so cold, she says, at 3 different times throughout the video “I’m going to die” or “I’m dying.” I’m sure we’ve all said similar things when feeling cold and it’s a simple exaggeration. I would just think with everyone’s eyes constantly on her appearance and consistently telling her they’re worried, that wouldn’t be the phrasing I would choose.. Especially not 3 times. -It’s Almost as if Eugenia babies her mother. In my personal opinion.. complete speculation, the mother has some cognitive impairments or mental health issues. ALLEGEDLY. Eugenia seems to care for her and could quite possibly be the only one doing so. It may be a lot of pressure on Eugenia to take on this role, especially for her mother. It could also be another reason she’s reluctant to leave. -When Eugenia posts a video of her time visiting Connecticut, it’s clear she has Such a limited vocabulary. She talks about the gas station pump and how many options of gas there are and where the gas is coming from. As if we’ve never seen a gas station before. I assume her development was somewhat halted both emotionally and cognitively when she experienced trauma or when her eating disorder began. ALLEGEDLY. -On her way home from shopping, she says that they took a route home that they don’t normally take and they ended up at her old school. She got out and said how much she hated it there and she had so many negative experiences there and didn’t like even standing outside, visibly appearing to be uncomfortable . 1. Why would her mom conveniently drive that route when they never take it? 2. Why would they stop and have her get out if it has such negative emotions associated with it? -She says the only thing she likes about her town, remembering the bus ride home from school, was seeing the ponies, as they drive by horse stables. Then she notes that there is a girl riding a horse and they pull over and stop to watch her. It obviously brings Eugenia some sense of happiness, which brought me back to another video she had made. Eugenia said she was obsessed with bratz dolls as a child. So much so that her teachers needed to discuss Eugenia’s obsession with her mother and suggested she take horse riding lessons instead. My brain immediately thinks that the teachers saw something unhealthy going on and recognized Eugenia’s love for horses, trying to get her mother to see the same and enroll her in something she was passionate about. Eugenia then tells us that instead, her mother went out and bought her more bratz dolls. This is a wealthy area of Connecticut and we’ve been told the parents are well off, so it wasn’t a financial issue. Did this ultimately lead to Eugenia being home schooled? As more teachers picked up on the unhealthy behavior in the home did her mother pull her out? -Seeing the mother’s behavior and her relationship with Eugenia, she does not seem fit to be home schooling her daughter.
Tayla Makevich wow you are perceptive, I read your whole comment, I never heard of Eugenia before and have been saying the Shane documentary was “fluffy” because he was being respectful because, from personal experience, you don’t want to talk about your eating disorder or your recovery, but like wowwwww you guys are on to something 🙀
thank you so so soooo much! you’re story genuinely seems realistic and it seems you have done a lot of research! have you commented this on shane’s video?
Obviously I absolutely do not wish anyyyyyy harm on Eugina AT ALLLLL. But if something bad did happen to her, I guarantee someone would make a movie about it. Since social media is such a strong thing nowadays. Obviously I never hope it comes to it of course.
It feels like a case of sexual abuse where the mother was jealous and/or didn’t believe it happened. The mother has always given me super creepy vibes. The mother in me just wants to give her a huge hug. It breaks my heart.
jenniferly23 I don’t think her dads sexually abusing her. He’s never around he lives in Connecticut, the most he’s done is call her beautiful and says she looks young. And she doesn’t. A dad saying his daughter looks like his little girl isn’t that weird.... the mom shared a bed with her. Didn’t give her an option when her parents separated
Sande June it could have, but her mom has had a weird obsession with showing off her body and playing dress up. She didn’t need to make her share a bed when they were in a big house when her parents decided to split up but were living in the same home. I get a molestation vibe from the mom, even if it’s subtle touching or looking at her
Sande June watch videos with her mom and how she talks about her body It’s like a mix of living vicariously through her being skinny and having an obsession It’s not always the dad Sometimes it’s the mom
Other weird things: She looked malnourished and underfed in her childhood photos. She referred to her eating disorder in the past tense, which is a big indicator that the person is still in denial.
Titty Kitty Cookie Maybe that’s why she ended up being homeschooled. Because the mother was starving her and has been for a long time. And she was causing red flags at school. So she took her out and continued her sick evil plan. Idk just a theory.
Natalies Mom Yeah I thought it was odd that she didn’t talk about what she use to eat or eats now. Like is she on a feeding schedule? Does her mom selectively feed her?
B B Anything is possible. I wouldn’t put it past that woman. Have you watched a video of her mom pretending to be Eugenia and Eugenia pretending to be her mom? I couldn’t even finish watching it. Disturbing.
@@scardetroit3896 oh wow, it really still look the same. Even some of the stuff on the walls. Makes you think they either 1. haven't lived there very long at all or 2. it is not their house at all and it is a showhouse!!
Her mom always creeped me out in videos tbh. the fact that she disappeared for Shane’s video but her lawyer was there??? Definitely off. I think Shane knows that but couldn’t say anything explicitly, so he left little stuff like that in so we could piece it together. I really feel for Eugenia, such a pure soul
Everything in that video was freaking fishy....and if you've watched Shane's videos you can tell when he thinks things don't add up...it felt like he knew more and almost had like a gag order not to say certain things...her lawyer was there the whole time... like who does that...
Definitely saw them. He asked questions that he knew we were going to have “where’s your mom? Does she live here? Do you live here? Who lives here?” Being visibly creeped out by the backdoor. He and Andrew edited and left in some stuff that could have been avoided, we never had to see the lawyer lurking in the background, but they made it a focus for a reason.
It's clear to anyone paying attention, she's being abused by her mother, and also possibly the father. The dynamic between her brother and herself is volatile at best. You could pick up on that from some of her old videos, and you can see how f-ed up the family dynamic is from her "draw my life" video where she said some extremely disturbing things. I feel for this girl. It's clear to me she's trapped in an abusive family dynamic. I wish we could help her.
I’m SO GLAD you’re doing this!! I felt all of the same things. It was SUCH a weird vibe the entire time. I don’t think she was ready yet to make this video with Shane and be open and honest. It’s too soon in her recovery.
WHAT IF, this "lame" video with Shane was juste the first step for her beginning to get out, and she AND Shane PURPOSEFULLY made the video crappy and superficial to begin to draw attention, and this is all a very big plan to escape and lit the whole shit on fire once and for all!
Nope. People don't understand that Eugenia loves her mother and doesn't know she is being manipulated. Her mother tells her that she has a heart condition and Eugenia is constantly walking on egg shells because she thinks if she upsets her mom it will cause her heart to go out. Eugenia's best friend in the world is her mom. She would never plot against her or leave her because she would be afraid of hurting her mom. That is how the mom manipulates Eugenia into doing whatever she wants her to do. It is guilt and shame, not overt abuse that the mother uses to control Eugenia.
As someone who has come from an abusive/chaotic home, here is my take: I think the Dad may have a track record of cheating and wreckless behavior hence her speaking about him always in NYC and being mostly absent. I think both parents are alcoholics and toxic when together probably alot of fights and chaos. Now, the father isn't really around much prob due to the fighting and possible cheating and other chaotic and aggressive situations/behavior. I think Eugenia's mom does love her but not the way a mother should. Her mother is very codependent and unable to let go of her daughter out of fear of being alone. Her mom needs and craves something to control because she herself does not have a handle on the family dynamic or even herself due to addiction. This also goes hand in hand with Eugenia's Eating disorder. People don't understand that Eating Disorders aren't always about weight and the fear of gaining weight it's a way to gain some type of control over themselves and with Eugenia's mom controlling her at every turn, this makes sense. I don't think her mother enables her ED purposefully but I do think she is so controlling to the point where she believes "Keeping it in the family" is the best thing and only SHE can "help" her daughter but she isn't a professional and her need to control clouds all judgement. I think Eugenia walks on eggshells due to her moms outbursts and also plays therapist for her mom instead of child. Her mom seems to depend on Eugenia alot to not be alone or depressed otherwise she will drink more which explains Eugenia's lack of mental growth and growing up. Her mom likes it this way because it keeps her childlike bc then she does not have to face the fact that Eugenia is a GROWN woman. I also do think Eugenia just enjoys childlike things and aesthetics (as do I, nothing wrong w that but this does enable the mom to view her as immature) As far as the youtube thing goes, just like he said in this video this has been going on way before she became known on social media. Social media and youtube became a way for her to Express herself and do what she wants without being stifled which is why in her older videos she stutters less, is more sure of herself and seems happier. I think the more well known she became the more overprotective and overbearing her mom became and the money eugenia started making only became yet another way and means to control her. This entire family dynamic screams control, control, control whether it's the dad controlling the mom financially or through cheating, ect and in return her mom controlling her. There also could be some sexual abuse that happened early in Eugenia's life that could have been from the father or another family member or even a babysitter or stranger which explains Eugenia's fear of "creepy old men" she has mentioned several times and her odd need to specify "NOT INCEST." I sense alot of chaos and fights and discourse that Eugenia and even her brother possibly blame themselves for which is again why she continues to stick around. Eugenia's ED makes this situation tougher bc her mom obviously isn't going to feel comfortable with her daughter living alone with this illness. Alot of chaos, fighting, addiction, self blame, mental illness, family secrets and possible sexual abuse with this family and I just hope that she gathers the strength to get the help she needs not only with her ED but to also escape. She deserves to have her own life and discover herself and have her own identity outside of her mother and UA-cam. To me it also seems as if UA-cam may not even really be serving her much anymore. I see that spark in her eyes reappear when she games and talks about gaming and makeup. Makeup seems to be a big love of hers. Her mom may glamorize her and the channel and has a "high" knowing her daughter is well known which explains why She is always so controlling and overtly excited to participate in videos and Eugenia basically side eyes the whole time because she is so stifling. I think Eugenia partly keeps up with the Channel in certain ways and as much as she does because it gives her mom and maybe even the rest of the family something to be proud of and to look forward to (Fame, status, money) other than Eugenia doing it for herself. She has lost herself and it's so incredibly sad. I truly hope that she is able to get out of this bc she deserves so much. You can tell she is a sweet person and usually those who are soft spoken, anxious and sweet are the ones who have been abused and never want to "Rock the boat" or upset anyone.
Another take is the dad isnt as bad and separates himself alot because he cant handle eugenia's moms controlling behavior and addiction so theres a huge divide
@@strawbabyfoxfae yeah thats the feeling I'm getting. I feel like he maybe did some usual bad things in a relationship. cheating, drinking too much or just being away for too long for work. And I think he fully disagrees with how the mom is handling things. I mean, we heard how she reacted to Jacyln for getting eugenia REAL help. He could have in the past been the only one with a level normal head on the matter, and a lot of disagreements and arguements stemmed from Eugenias ED. he could just feel like its a lost cause at this point, because he knows the situation and the people involved. And if he's always gone, the mom could share lots of bad opinions about the father, painting him in a bad light, and eugenia believing it all. I think he's staying out of it, coz he disagrees and doesnt want to get dragged into the conspiracies. Like a normal person would do in a similar situation. The mom however enjoys it a little too much which I find more of a red flag than the dad not being around to watch the trainwreck
I’m commenting early but I also found it strange that she couldn’t open the door herself when it’s her house... and I definitely found the decorations weird like it doesn’t fit her style also I found it even more weird that the guy opened the door and almost pushed her back out of the way! And she’s a daily vlogger and has never showed more then the pink room.... also the guy kept following them around during the interview
Tbh I was thinking that also and was thinking that could explain why she's inbetween both parents and why the mum is treating her this way. I also hope it isn't!
Yeah same there are videos of him walking in on her live streams and commenting on her body. It’s all very strange and every time he would enter she would get really nervous and say, “hey guys, see my dad is here. I’m on a livestream”. Almost like saying to her dad, you better not do anything because the camera is on. I think her live-streaming and getting online was her way of getting her dad to leave her alone
There is.... (curling my hair with a wand) 5:25 you here her parents... someone saying “you’re going to kill her” and then a female saying “I want the money” listen closely.... then Eugenia pausing, repeating herself and not cutting it out??? Sounds like a cry for help
Jean Fish at the very least her mother refused her treatment when she was younger so she couldn’t reveal her home life to professionals and now that she’s an adult she doesn’t assume any responsibility for her daughter’s health. She’s probably told Eugenia that the doctors won’t understand their family and will tear it apart. It was a narrative I lived with as a child in an abusive home, outsiders are dangerous and will break up the family, if you tell then it’s your fault and you broke up the family.
At 28:38 he brings up the possibility of her leaving a message in a video like a bread crump and it reminds me SO MUCH of that one video she made curling her hair where in the background (allegedly) her mother and another woman are heard yelling at each other "You're killing her!" "I want the money!" She could've cut that out but she didn't and people are saying she left it on purpose as a scream for help.
Can I ask is that house owned by Eugenia?... if that is euginias house, why is her room downstairs? IDK I just found that odd. If I right now at 24 bought a house, my mother would be downstairs and I would have the master. She even said her mom goes back and forth between houses soooo why does she have downstairs? Things aren't right and I'm pissed for Eugenia.
Her mom is a leech taking Eugenia's money and then deciding what to do with it. It's like Eugenia doesn't buy anything, her mom continues to treat her like a child and buys it for her. Then when "Eugenia" buys a house, her mom probably put it in her own name and was like "since I do everything for you I'm choosing upstairs" or something like that.
When you said that she’s smarter than we think and that there’s something in a video, I got chills! There’s a video where she is curling her hair, and you can clearly hear people arguing in the back and somebody says “you’re gonna kill her!” And then a woman (I guess the mom) says something like “it’s for the money!” I really can’t remember but the videos is still in her channel and is about her trying a curl iron, That video is SUPER important because It’s obvious that Eugenia left that in the video on purpose
@@liamtz383 It's called curling my hair with a wand. At 5:25 you can hear the, "you're going to kill her" and 5:30 "i need the money" or "give me the money" or something. She ends the video not long after. It's very creepy.
Jaclyn's newest video pretty much confirms this. She said her mom uses an excuse against EC about how she has a weak heart and how EC's going to kill her. This is crazy.
There's some videos whereshe says her dad's home(which sounds like he lives there) and he walks in on her streaming and right away she tells him she's streaming and she sits up straighter and changes her voice to sound more formal when speaking to him. You can tell she seems uncomfortable or on edge around him. He's never on camera. On one video where it's her birthday he tell her that she looks great and not a day over 14. Pretty weird to compliment your adult daughter on looking 14 and being skin and bones :( Both her parents are so toxic. I really really home she gets away from them asap.
WHAT IF, since Jaclyn and her friends were the reason eugenia had a 5051, aand Katie also became involved thanks to Jaclyn, then Katie was involved in the Shane video.. Shane MIGHTVE know Jaclyns side of the story when he went to eugenias house, and this is all part of some crazy plan to save eeugenia? Shane wouldve been some ssort of spy in this scenario. Since his video wwas so fluffy, and we aall believe that's bbc of the mother and the lawyer, but Shane must have a ton of interesting footage ffrom his time over there..
“Allegedly...” I sense sexual abuse and or something like that - the father stands out to me here for that. Also, I wonder if she is being blamed for that.. often jealous mothers will blame their child during this time. I’ve seen this. I think the mother blames her, for the abuse.. I also think the mother has some other issues as well, abusive , controlling etc The family dynamic I am sensing is not good.
Huh, the mother is the one who screams"I'm molesting my child," not the dad.... Look at how her mom interacts with her in old videos and the creepy comments she makes about her body. But the biggest cluse for me were in her draw my Life video which she took down. She says in that vid that her mom and her are really close but that it's not incest.... If that doesn't spell "SEXUAL ABUSE" from the mom then I don't know what does. Plus there's the issue of her mom forcing her to share a bed when her parents separated, and that's exactly what a sexual predator would do. Stop blaming the dad and open your eyes
You know? In Shane’s video there is a song by #Catie, named “Breath” and in a part it says “it is not just you, is my family, friends... even my mother. I just need space to breath” 🤭
What if the reason for Eugenia becoming so thin was because her mum was so controlling and abusive and she thought that the only control she had was her body 🤷🏻♀️ probably not but conspiracy
I feel like the person she sent the smoke signal to is Shane, and maybe he's going to do a follow up or a mini series that's going to help her get out. 👀
I feel like that the abuse ....more like a sexual abuse came from her mother, remember not only men can abuse also women do it to. I feel really bad everything seems to be odd. It looks like all the things she said were hints for somebody to listen and understand that she was in trouble.
Yes I was just saying this too, he has commented on her body at least a couple of times. It’s pretty gross for a father to do. I definitely think if she was abused by him, her mom blames her, which is disgusting too
I believe he said “you don’t look a day over 14” and she immediately asked the live stream if she looks 14 almost like she was warning her r dad she was live before he would say more
What I don't get is... I know if you're financially dependent on your parents it can literally feel like you're trapped inside a prison.. I've been there, sort of still am. But Eugenia is not. So somehow Eugenia's mom is using other tactics like making her feel guilty or afraid? Idk this whole situation is super messy in so many ways. I think it will literally take years for her to sort this all out.... Maybe 5 to 10 years.. But if something happens, like for example her mother literally shows her true colors to her or if the mother dies... She's gonna need time to recover but will eventually move on.. But there's also the eating disorder which still could kill her... Relapses happen... Or maybe things aren't as bad as they seem... I'd be very disappointed in Jaclyn if she lied at any point...
I feel like she's a prisoner in her own home. Everything felt off
Yeah esp not being able to open that back door.
I think it was suppoused to feel off. I think Shane was leaving us a breadcrumb trail. His hands were legally tied.
@@tittykittycookie2382 YES.👏👏👏 Thank you! 👏👏👏
All the little faces he made to the camera during the video, i knew something was off.
Not to mention, we were all thinking he was about to upload a conspiracy video, but he went with this instead - so we would all be in the 'investigation mode'
I'm so glad I'm not the only one haha 😂
Captive in a falling tower.
Yes it felt like a Gypsy Rose Blanchard type of thing going on.
Her personality screams someone who was abused. Her overly nice attitude seems like someone who puts up a wall of defense and someone who is scared to say the wrong thing
Gigi Luciani such a good point I completely forgot about
Exactly
Behind her kindness is a lot of pain and someone who is constantly made to believe she’s doing everything wrong
Natalie Belsha apologizing alot & for everything is a sign of abuse/trauma..People get frustrated with me &remind me I don’t need to say sorry for the littlest things but it’s a defense mechanism& takes a very long time counseling etc to get in check you aren’t just apologizing you genuinely feel bad. I’m praying for her its so hard to see
Froufrou Deluxe exactly It’s a symptom of abuse &you have been made to feel great empathy for anyone but yourself😢
Gigi Luciani You don’t have to be or been in a relationship or have/had a spouse to have gone through abuse.. you can be abused just as badly, if not WORSE by your own parents & family.
A twenty some year old woman comes across as a preteen. She is re-enacting a time of innocence and stuck in a time warp. I hope she finds healing along the way.
I want the same for her!!
Borderline personality disorder?
@@heatherstorck7204 why do you mention that disorder? How is it related? :o
@@effyaddams Mona Taylor just described Borderline Personality disorder down to a tee. Textbook.. Eating disorders can be a in relation to another disorder especially in relation to what her family is allegedly doing to her.
@@heatherstorck7204 Possibly. though, I think we would get more evidence of bpd if we were to witness different interpersonal relationships. The thing about bpd is, it can be full-blown bpd or just certain traits In a person who was abused. it's warped personality from maladaptive coping mechanisms in early childhood. I've read somewhere that a person's personality is fully realized by age 6. I know this girl had to have been abused all of her life. I was.
The day Eugenia tells her story it is going to be extremely shocking.
I completely agree
@@nathaniabozieux2667 I don't think she will...
She won't. Unless she legally can separate from her family. I feel like her mom controls everything she posts
Everything comes out to light eventually.
I wish she would write a book
I had a feeling abuse of some form was involved. She’s not just nice, she’s stunted. She acts too young for her age, it’s like she’s stuck on the things that would make a child happy. And not just for the aesthetic.
Sydney Bishop arrested development for sure!
Exactly! Like she’s stuck in stasis mode
i saw something before that said 'people that are abused can be stuck at the age in which the abuse occurred '
Idk about the abuse but let's be real 👏 No one is so flawlessly nice all the time... She's putting up a front for sure.
Like it's any of your business hahaha.
Dad abused Daughter. Mom is jealous of Daughter. Drinks to cover up her issues. Blames Daughter for her own self short comings. Rinse and repeat. It's clear as day.
Mom is obese no her daughter being skin and bones is no big deal. It sorta reminds me of when I would get bullied for being "anorexic" (Luckily I've never had an eating disorder, I'm just naturally slim like my mom) and when I would confront girls who were often heavier set for saying it they couldn't see that it was also an insult and hurtful to call me that.
Dude don't be talking about her dad like that unless you f*cking have proof to show its true. Going around accusing men of that sh*t is f*cked up of you!!
@Lil Sprout that's not what he said at all. Don't spread lies like that. BS!! he jokingly said "you don't look a day over 14". It was a fucking joke.
@@RainHavok1111 triggered?
@@ralinem.8950 accusing someone of a very serious crime with no proof is bs. Obviously that family has some issues but we can't just come to conclusions because of a video or a reading.
She says she was homeschooled because she was bullied so bad but what if she was pulled out of school so her family could have more control over her life.
That makes more sense
I thought about that too and what if her mom was starving her? She obviously knew and did nothing.
Fucking, Creepy yikes poor her. I hope someone can speak.
100% bullied form mom
And she was most likely bullied because of being raised in a psychologically abusive household. I know this because my mom and sister are sociopaths. I’ve been abused by both sexes throughout my life, and I personally feel like the psychological abuse from the females (especially a MOM, somebody you are always supposed to be able to run to, rely on, trust and receive unconditional love from) was the WORST. Narcissistic Sociopaths just do SO MANY horrible things and lack the ability to feel for anybody..it is like they aren’t even human...no child should have to grow up to become an adult that needs to recover from their childhood.
When she was trying to unlock the door she said “they really protect this house.” THEY.
Megan E I think she meant the people that used to live there. She mentioned a “mafia” family living there. Her whole situation is super shady
Corina It’s a lie, it’s definitely her parents like who else is they?! The mafia is a made up story by Eugenia.
Megan E Yeah who's THEY I'm so scared for her :-( xx
But if doesn’t make sense...the locks are on the inside which is normal. Yes there was an excessive amount of locks but unless they’re locking her outside... I really think the lock conspiracy is a stretch. I DEFINITELY believe that her mother is a predator and harming her daughter, but I just don’t see the issue with the locks (other than it being a little odd and overprotective, maybe even paranoid)
Rachael Jones or because of her eating disorder she may not be strong enough to pick up the bar.
"just because their bond is strong doesn't mean its a healthy one" facts
Many times eating disorders are started bc of family abuse and chaos. Feel for her
Exactly! The person with the eating disorders starts because food is literally the only thing in their life that they can control.
Yes, the mother’s food issues often are the cause of eating disorders in her children.
I know it’s clichè to blame the mother, but in this instance there are studies indicating it’s a cause.
Exactly. Remember when Eugenia said in the doc that she's been very thin since she was really young and they even showed a picture? It clearly has nothing to do with high metabolism. *Where were the parents and why weren't they feeding their CHILD?* This has clearly been going on for ages.
Yes.I have ED and it’s control for me
Rose Gold Me too, it’s about control.
Her mom has ALWAYS giving me bad vibes Ant. The fact that she wasnt in the video kinda validates alot that I've thought.
I thought the same thing. I thought it was interesting that she wasn't around, considering she's usually around in most of Eugenia's videos. I think that she was somewhere in the house in Shane's video tbh.
Exactly! And it seemed weird that Eugenia didn't know where she was. You think the mom would at least show herself if someone like Shane was coming to the house.
Lisa Holly I thought the same and shouldn’t she have been there to be supportive. I mean even the brother showed up in the video briefly. It gave me a really weird vibe that the mom didn’t show up.
@@drowsybunny7179 that wasnt the brother that was a lawyer
shane would have pinpointed the mother right away
First mission: save Eugenia from dying of anorexia
Second mission: save Eugenia from dying at the hands of her mother
Let’s get to work internet!
👏👏
I hope that we can do that
you don’t know if she’s suffering from anorexia though, she has never said which eating disorder she has
@@oa1815 have you watched her latest video?
@@oa1815 what? Shes in denial. Why would she admit anything? Shes a seriously ill woman.
I feel like Shane left the door part in on purpose. I feel like Shane tried to leave any clues he could, but if her mom has as firm of a grip on her life as everyone says, Shane needed to play by her rules.
Yikes.
yes I think this too because he asked a really important question on that moment, about her friends and if they were there for her and I think he did it there (if you think about it, it was a weird place to ask a big sustancial question) so he could include that part of the video without further explanation to the lawyer?
Agree I believe shane knows a lot more but could not ask or bring up certain topics because her family would watch it. I believe he has a plan and the best way to help her is to just be a friend and build trust and not piss off her mom otherwise he’d be blocked out like Jaclyn is now🤔 for instance instead of flat out saying her mom is part of the problem he may just encourage her to move somewhere else or to go to his place more and slowly get her more independent but idk. I feel like Shane is smart as well as Eugenia so I hope as they get closer this situation gets better.
Eugenias Mom: "delete this shit right now "
🤣🤣
Don't forget the lawyer was there. Compare how he question everything and everyone in the Logan Paul video and then look at Eugenia's. It's completely different. I mean he might have been afraid to dig in and ask questions at her house. He usually would have asked those questions at his house for the summary part of his video.
jhlibra95 you're so right. You can tell by their body language!
This channel needs more recognition
Jenny Markova 100%. Correct 🥰🥰
Preach 🙌🏾💕
Best way is for us to go to other bigger UA-camrs comments and tell them to watch him. Like go to Jaclyn’s video and tell them to go to Ant and watch this ☺️
I was saying the same his subs should be wayyyyyy higher because he is literally amazing!!!
you are so sweet! from your lips to gods ears! please share my stuff wherever you can. thank you!
It’s 9 months later. Nothing has changed with her except that she’s losing weight again at a rapid pace. Something’s got to give.
We’ve just got to sit back and wait..one day the curtain will unfold
It did get worse before it got better.
Y'all Shane isn't stupid. He knows. He just had such legal restrictions so he did what he could. Watch the video again. There's certain scenes he highlights that really raise eyebrows. I feel like he knew his video would raise red flags and get attention. This was all apart of the plan
Lindsey O'Reilly I agree 100% why put the unlocking the door scene if you didn’t want to highlight that and even the part where he asks where her mom is.
I feel like everyone forgot about the teaser for the video he put out.....
Tiana Smith I cant find that video 😭😭 I don’t remember what was in it
@@kcjean008 it was like an Insta story if you check out Peter Monn I'm pretty sure it was in a video he did
Exactly. And the vibe is telling me that the person who has a plan in place to help Eugenia (earlier in the reading) is Shane.
It seems like she was abused and that door was a huge red flag
Which is why she said the made up story about the mafia previously living there. You're in California sweetie what are you talking about.
and that her mom left before showing up to shane???? yikes...
@@raebentley4028
The mafia used to own Hollywood and they still own parts of it.
I work in the legal community it's a confirmed fact.
@@jessielynch7493 I believe the Mafia thing, just because of the way the house looks and how weird it is, but I do think her mother may have put it in her head that that's why the door was like that just to cover up that she's being completely controlled
Jessie Lynch They run STRONG in Hollywood still..believe me 🙊
I’m so glad I wasn’t alone her room literally looks like....a room I’ve seen on any crime show dealing with kidnap and sexual abuse or even just her being confined in that house . Her not knowing how to open the door was a red flag for me also
My room Looks like that but I have abandonment issues my mother had post party mand I was emotionally neglected she feed and clothe me but was emotionally checked out, My formative bond was with my father and grandparents
In a stream she even heard someone outside her door she just talks about it and calls out to someone (no one answers but she still hears someone on the other side.) but she doesnt open the door to check making me think that she didnt want to open it and have it possibly be locked, showing she cant leave. (this is just speculation of what I think could allegedly be happening because it didnt sit right with me that she wouldn't just open the door even just a crack so she could check for her self not even the people on the stream)
She could have been acting, you know playing the little girl innocent I dont know how to do anything.If you have seen other videos you see she often says to her mother I dont know how to do this,be it digging a hole or stirring food in a bowl.
Eugenia has a video from a few years ago called "Curling my hair" and at the 5:25 mark, you can hear people screaming "But you're gonna kill her!" "But i want the money" I really think she left that in there on purpose.
this!!! It HAS to be the video he's seeing
And if she had accidentally left it in, there’s hundreds of comments about it and the time stamps etc. She would of had to have seen her mistake by now. Unless it’s intentional
Breadcrumbs
But that was few years ago and somehow no authorities were or are involved :(
She most likely overhears conversations like that on a regular basis to the point it doesn't faze her. They have a life insurance policy on her...
Maybe this is why Shane kept saying that he’s going to get sued after but then maybe never added the tea
Could explain why her ATTORNEY, of all people, was there for everything.
Jenny Markova He held back on A LOT. I think he gave us secrets though in the video, at least that I’ve picked up on. The door, asking the last thing she was mad about (maybe trying to get her to open up about her reality), getting the lawyer on film.. A lot of things were shown that are really starting to put the real story together.
I hope Shane is the one stepping up for her,....he knows...he knows...
Exactly
@@itspattiiii3880 I hope so
No one starves themselves because they feel good enough. It thrives on perfectionism and isolations and as someone who was abused, I say that house reaks of mental abuse.
Korry Rill maybe they didn’t feed
exactly.
When you said "this reminds me of a Disney movie" I got a VERY STRONG image of Tangled; with Rapunzel and Mother Gothel. O.O
Oh my, he needs to see this
oh my god you are so right,, im genuinely scared for her nd her safety
OMG NOW THAT I THINK OF IT ME TOO
Mother Gothel is my image of a narcissistic mom
Said the words right out of my mouth! My sister and I thought of this
Is anybody getting a Gypsy Blanchard / Dee Dee type of relationship from this?
Very much so
Yes
Edgar Aguilar yes and it's freaking me out
Oh god I didn't realize this until now... Now I'm more concerned.
Yes! I just posted about this, too. It’s very troublesome!
No one:
Antphrodite: _allegedly_
I’m glad I’m not the only one who was underwhelmed by Shane’s video. It didn’t accomplish anything, she didn’t admit to anything really. Love Shane but it was a flop to me
Erica Gibson I think it was the catalyst to get Eugenia help. Shane isn’t stupid he gave us clues all over that video! I’m sure there is something he didn’t show us because he claimed the video would get him sued but what he showed us wouldn’t get him sued.... ya know?
@@MariiaFernandaaaa I totally agree with you! I actually commented that on Jaclyn Glenn's video.
Erica Gibson agree.. not good at all
I think the point was to get the people talking
Erica Gibson She doesn’t have to admit anything though. If she didn’t feel completely comfortable yet telling every detail of her journey that’s her right. Some of you are way too entitled to others lives.
I just couldn't get over how many times she said "like" and had the fake smile on her face. I feel so bad for her.
Shanea Cramer yeah maybe she was nervous
I met her once in person while I was working at Disneyland, she was with her mom and her brother. The way she acted was very reserved and timid. She lit up when I said hi to her but for the most part she was so withdrawn. I've seen her a few times at Disney as she frequented my attraction and each time she acted the same. She seemed like a little girl afraid of speaking up in front of her mother. I'm sure some of it was she was tired but I'm positive a lot of it was also the relationship between her and her mom.
Dude her whole demeanor is the same as mine was when I lived with my abusive narcissistic mother... it’s terrifying
Rainbow Melody YES. My whole life changed the day I moved out. No more weekly migraines, got my own anorexia under control, so much less stress. My mom was always so evil to me and we worked at the same place and she would put on this persona of being the “best mom” and leave me fresh fruit when just the other day she would refuse to buy me groceries and say it’s my “dads turn” to buy me food. I dropped out of high school to work so I could buy healthy food for myself (My parents pretty much ate noodles, rice and fast food and I wanted to eat healthy). Eugenia has got to move away from mom STAT.
Mother is jealous of daughter as father has unhealthy thoughts and behaviors towards daughter. Mother blames daughter for this. This family is so disturbed and I hope daughter escapes this prison she is living in. I’m wondering if mother has control of her money?
Did you see the clip of Eugenia’s dad saying “you don’t look a day over 14”? I got a really sick feeling from that clip with him. If you haven’t you should look it up.
It’s from a couple years ago but it just didn’t seem ok to say to a 20something daughter who’s clearly struggling with an ED.
@@animallover5626 omg yes, people in the comments also said this isnt the first time he's commented on her looks. She also said "did you hear that? my dad said I look 14." or something maybe thats her emphasizing to her audience? Aka leaving breadcrumbs
Pink Poppet I LITERALLY HAD THE SAME THOUGHT!!!!
I would not be surprised to find out moms is jealous and has slowly been making sure her daughter stays sick.
Either that she knew her mom was feeling some sort of way towards her and she developed the disorder to get away from her with the help of others that are concerned about her. Either way, this is just a very weird and sad case. I really hope she gets out of it and is able to recover with people that truly care about her.
It's more than jealousy, this reading has narcissistic mother written all over it
Her dad is in the picture. Apparently he has a record for drink driving, he has also been seen in videos saying really strange things to Eugenia. Youre so right about things being off. Ive been digging for years and there is so much wrong. I also feel in my gut something is very wrong.
Littlest Hobo what else did you find?
Girl same I’ve been following her since middle school over 10 years now I swear half the shit people are just finding out I’ve known for years and have never known how to feel or wtf to do with the info I never in my life thought that it would even get to a point where she somewhat admit to having a problem!
what did her dad say to her?
Which videos? Can you drop a link please?
Her dad doesn’t live in the same state as her and their parents are separated. Her mom takes up all of her time and had for years
Eugenia has a very nervous defensive energy about her, a lot of people I know who have suffered through abuse or trauma as a child who are extremely nice and cautious about saying for the wrong things. It's also common for people who were sexually abused or assaulted at a you age to develop eating disorders
Too true, it just sounds like her dad sexually abused her but the mom feels that she has to “lock up her competition” 😥
I get incest vibes from that whole family, very disturbing and sad. Brother draws nude pictures of her, dad telling her how pretty she looks (ie "not a day over 14", etc) and mom takes lewd photoshoots of her... just a bad vibe all around. She is beyond help, we will only know what her friends say and she will most likely die without telling her story. Its awful to see this all happening in real time and not be able to do anything
Maybe Shane did this documentary to bring these things to light since he wasn’t able to bring out any real information from Eugenia. He probably knows what’s going on and can’t really help because of suing issues. Idk
marz that lawyer following them around gave me the creeps. It was so weird
EMERALD ROSE wow I didn’t even notice the lawyer lol I’m gonna look at it again
marz he kind of did this with the Chuck E. Cheese video like cutting it in a suggestive way to say things he wasn’t legally allowed to say
marz the guy in the red shirt.
I was surprised she even needed a lawyer though. She’s in her 20s and she was still so limited ☹️
I'm thinking he left things up to the imagination because he doesn't have the time to dig deeper and investigate. I don't think he's gonna address it anymore because of how much he has going on.
During this whole vid I was just getting the message sexual abuse over and over in my head. I feel like the eating disorder was started to make herself less attractive and wanted. ALLEGEDLY.
Same..
Me to. My body kept reacting with goose bumps over and over.
Alex Mercado same...I think that’s why the dad is gone, and alcoholic now and her mom watches her like a hawk...making sure he stays away but she also deep down resents Eugenia for it happening and that’s the “twisted” relationship part I feel...she doesn’t care if she’s well, dead or alive honestly....Allegedly lol
Just my feels...and my opinion
Alex Mercado SAME your so right , did anyone see the live stream where her dad walked in and started complimenting her in a super creepy way, he said it over and over again how beautiful she looked and how good she looked, this was on multiple live streams and weirded me out so much. There’s been many rumors about him being an alcoholic and there being some sort of sexual assault with him and her
@@erinntay Giving me Precious vibes
This is giving me chills. Shane set this up to free Eugenia. Jeffree Star said he wants to meet Eugenia and knowing his past with his mother, he might help her.
Shane's very smart and shined light on her situation and shined a light on all the locks on the door for a reason. Shes still struggling.
I hope they are working in tandem to help her.
agreed 200,000,000,000,000, percent
imagine if jeffree helped Eugenia make her own palette. i wonder if that would help or hurt her.
dria moon it would hurt her
@@ericaangel539 fair. probably a thing that's best when she's out of her mother's grasp.
I get sexual abuse vibes from the dad. I think your reading is on point. I got all the same feelings. Love you, Ant. Hoping Eugenia can escape and one day tell it all.
Me too! There is also a connection between sexual abuse and ED's (not for all, but many)
me too.. oh my god.....i had a random thought about that its like why would i think that. doesnt mean im right but wtf
@@niadaniels1044 I got it to, I can some what pick up things and that's what I got, and her mom is toxic
Yeah there’s a video where she’s live streaming and it’s her birthday. Her dad comes home from work and says hey, she gets really nervous and says “hey I’m on a livestream”. He then proceeds to wish her a happy birthday or something like that, cause it was her birthday. She relays that to the livestream. Then he says, “you don’t even look this age”, I think she must have been older, but he says to her “you look 13, 14” as a compliment. Super weird comment and Eugenia gets visibly uncomfortable too, but brushes it off. Ever since this encounter in this video, I always thought something was off about their relationship. I think he sexually abused her and her only way of getting away was constantly having the camera on: basically live-streaming. Cause no abuser wants to be caught red handed abusing.
What they said is not verbatim, but I can’t remember exactly how the encounter goes, I’m sure the video is still up somewhere
@@ItsPastelHoney see. and my sister thought it too. i feel like we as humans can pick up shit at times. i feel like theres a truth to it because this is not a thought people just have lol and this many people have felt that too
All the reversed cards scare me..oh my.. And i get this really sick feeling everytime her dad is brought up. I almost dont even want to to type it out to put out into the universe but I almost feel like maybe there were inappropriate situations between father and daughter and the mother got jealous of her daughter instead of being angry at the dad and making him leave the family. I just have a sick feeling when her dad is brought up and when you add in the possible alcohol problems, it seems like a big nasty mess.
I agree I thought the same thing.
I'm so sad😞 this video made me scared and uncomfortable. I want her to get out so bad
This channel has the biggest, weirdest assumptions I've ever seen. You guys don't even follow your instinct, you just hear everyone saying bad things and you're following. This video is the stupidest shot e ever seen and I love tarot readings.
@@jaxo5679 you must not have been following the Eugenia situation. You must be new to all of this because you sound ignorant. The UA-cam Community has been trying to get Eugenia help for over five years. It's now just turning into a big blow up recently but Eugenia situation has been in Dire Straits with a big handful of UA-camrs reporting about it for over 2 years now.
@@ASMRGRATITUDE all I read was blah blah blah
Can we get an updated reading on Eugenia? She is unhealthier than EVER right now. It’s EXTREMELY alarming.
yes!!!
What if everything she told about the mafia was actually about her parents
Greta bbbbrrruuuhhhh
That would be so crazy!!
That's exactly what i got out of it. Her parents told her all about mafia previously owning the house and how the locks and things are to keep scary people out, when in reality it's to keep her locked in! They brought the boogeyman to life to scare her. I honestly hope the parents and everyone else involved will be investigated and she'll be removed from the home if they're found unfit. You can't heal in the environment that helped make you sick.
Greta I honestly thought this as well. She seemed very nervous talking about “the Mafia” and I honestly think it’s because she’s actually talking about her family. It’s creepy as hell.
That mafia was a made up story that's why she said idk alot. She made it up.
Holy
Shane isn’t dumb, he loves investigating and conspiracy theories, I think he knows all of this about his mom ect, maybe he left little Easter eggs throughout the video in hopes to open up conversations to get her help and to get her away from her family eventually
Kristen Pursell he has to find ways of sneaking the clues in even with the lawyer following them around the whole video. I found that absolutely terrifying. My question through that was, why would a grown woman going through something like this need a lawyer to make sure certain things aren’t said 🤔
What are they hiding???
EMERALD ROSE this seriously sounds like a mommy dearest/ the Gypsy Rose case :( very sad
Shane even said when he was working on this that we would get sue for it, so I think he left everything like Easter eggs.
He left clues because he doesn't have the time to dedicate to this so he left his clues hoping that people would see this and step in.
@@raebentley4028 I don't think it's a lack of time, but a lack of wanting to get sued by the mother tbh.
19:58 Jaclyn said she has a designated "driver" who drives her everywhere and waits to pick her up. She doesn't drive.
Whos jaclyn??
@@roxy16556 Jaclyn was a trusted friend of Eugenia who was the reason she got help in the first place ua-cam.com/video/0a43ImW_OK0/v-deo.html
She may have been willing to talk, but the fact that her or her mom's lawyer was there during the whole interview leads me to believe that they don't want her talking. I think Shane did the best he could for what he was allowed to do.
They didn't trust Shane because he's good at getting information out of people because he is sweet or trust worthy they know how to deal with Eugenia but not shane. the only way is through Eugenia and through contract and at their house and witness to back up everything is it weird that I think they ask for a copy or they had their own recording that he doesn't know of? I'm just saying reputation can be everything to some either you'll get in trouble or lose something. That's my intake
I watched the video, but didn't know they had a lawyer there 👀 that is so sad. Her family is trying to hide the abuse. I'm going to have to watch it again, but like others said, that video didn't give any insight to what was actually going on with her.... unfortunately that video was a let down, but it makes sense if they had lawyers there 🙄🤐
I fully agree. The door itself in the video should of been the biggest sign period. Did anyone not pay attention to her clothing?
If her mom is controlling her account/social media she posts, she may have made her sign a contract not allowing her to talk about the family or certain subjects. I get the feeling her mom is extremelyyyyyy involved in what she posts
@@savannahcarter1749 have you noticed on Eugenias "trying on Jeffrees stars makeup" video she just posted, her bedroom door is open a few inches. Makes me wonder if mom was listening to her record
My God, I hope she slipped Shane Dawson a note when the lawyer glanced away! And someone gets her out of that madhouse before she loses her life. This is chilling.
When???
Well nothing has changed. We need an updated reading. I honestly don't think she has long left
In my opinion, Eugenia is the new gypsy rose. Something is definitely going on in that "house" that we don't know about yet.
Taco Belle Yep, that's what I thought strait away too xx
Excuse me for being a bit ignorant but who's Gypsy Rose?
@@LightandDarkSavior she is a young woman who was forced by her mother to pretend to be sick. "Munchausen syndrome by proxy". The mom wanted attention and money by exploiting her "sick" daughter. She even got a house from it. She forced her daughter to pretend to have all sorts of illnesses and even pretend she was paralyzed. Her daughter snapped and started a relationship with a boy and they planned to kill gypsys mother, to basically free gypsy from her mothers control. He did it and they are both in jail now.
@@tacobelle6680 Oh my, that's extremely sad. I can see how it relates to Euginia's case. This time, her mom would be pushing her to have a disorder to get the money, equally horrific.
I think her mom is living through her. Like her mom is dressing her up like a doll and controlling every aspect of her life and making her feel like everything's normal.
Abigail Jones and has a doll house to live in that she trapped her in
I came back and watched this again almost a year later and OMG. I just picked up on something I totally missed the first time, when you talk about how she might have a "deep rooted issue" with her dad, and how she could be "feeling the blame," something just smacked me in the face and it’s literally making me sick. So sometimes when I watch these readings I’ll get a very clear picture in my head along with a pit in my gut and that’s what happened when you started talking about her dad and "blame" and "guilt." I want to share what I’m feeling, but I want to do it as delicately as possible. So, I’ve seen videos where her dad is acting kind of creepy. Telling her how pretty she looks and how young she looks, and while that in itself isn’t creepy it’s just the way he says it. So how do I say this...? Sometimes when a father has been "inappropriate" with his daughter and hurts her, the mother blames the daughter instead of the disgusting father. Especially if the mother has other...problems. This is the exact scenario I saw when you were doing this reading. Her father hurt her and her mother, instead of leaving the father and placing the blame squarely where it should be, _on him,_ she blamed Eugenia and now Eugenia feels guilty. People who have been hurt like that often blame themselves anyways, so having her mother blame her too, essentially confirmed in her mind that, yes it _is_ my fault. Which is why Eugenia struggles with her issues. And it is issueS, plural. Not just the ED. The ED is just an outward manifestation of all the issues she’s dealing with (or more precisely _not_ dealing with.) That’s the most PG way I can say it, and obviously it’s just my own gut intuition, but that’s what I saw. I hope and pray Eugenia can get _away_ from these people, get _real_ help and be able to live a free, independent and happy life very soon. 🙏🏻
(Edit: also, obviously what happened _was not_ Eugenia’s fault. AT ALL. I’m just saying that in her mind she may have had feelings of guilt which are not uncommon in those situations, and then if her mother blamed her _too,_ it just validated _in her mind_ that she really was to blame. Which would fuck _anyone_ up.)
Totally agree
spot on
Completely agree. I don't know about the mum's reaction so won't comment on that, but yes, she's most likely been harmed in that way by dad, brother or both. I picked up on that in the reading, for sure.
That's the first thing that came to my mind. It's awful. :(
Is it just me or does Eugenia look nothing like her mother?
Yah it's a bit weird but maybe she takes after the other side of her family
Yo...you’re right. What’s her dad look like 👀
@@ecasey91 I think he has a mugshot for a dui online.
well weight differences can definitely affect a person's facial features and obv Eugenia and her mother have a big weight difference, also her alternative style
Thank God, honestly.
I’ve been waiting for this since the documentary dropped
Same!
♥ShadowKat♥ same
Seriously, same here
Sameeee!!
This is serious and I also think something is really wrong and I am scared for her.
But I'm laughing at how often you have to say "allegedly" "for entertainment purposes only".
I thought it was COMPLETELY BIZARRE that she said her treatment facility “didn’t tell her what her diagnosis was.” That’s not something that they keep from you when you’re in treatment. How do you fix a problem that you don’t know you have?!?
What I found weirder was the food! Burgers and pizza and fries? What? Since when is that anywhere near nutritional?
Erin 8 sometimes I hear they keep that private from the person suffering from it
Suemy Merida For people who are only beginning to get help for anorexic eating disorders they usually start with foods that are more appetizing for the patient so i dont think that’s that much of a red flag.
Suemy Merida as someone who has an ed those foods can be trigger foods and to start them out with those could eliminate those feelings, it’s not quite about healthy nutrition it’s more about getting over fears essentially
She didn’t say that. She said she didn’t want to share the label.
I got the feeling that Eugenia hasn't been in that house in a long time-it's like she wasn't familiar with her own home PLUS it's the middle of JULY & she had a CHRISTMAS wreath on a CHRISTMAS wreath hanger on her front door!!
I NOTICED THAT TOO!
Someone speak to the neighbors!
Good point! I though that was weird at the time, and then totally forgot about it.
It made me wonder if the video was actually recorded a while ago and they just held on to it until she was ready for it to be released, but then they talked about the James Charles scandal and that messed up my assumed timeline. The house seemed like a “prop” for sure.
I am going to say no, because Shane referenced the James Charles scandal when talking with her.
We need an updated reading...things aren't going too well
It’s Here! It’s crazy because it lines up with a lot in this reading 😲
Yess!
I recently come across her channel again and was so shocked she's stopped her treatment. she's worse than before. An update reading please.
even moreso now! things have gotten progressively worse
She could quite possibly have used You Tube for her protection. As long as she's in front of the camera she's safe. A lot of strange things have occured during her life streams. I also think that Eugenia's illness enabled her mother to keep her under control. Keep her silent. When I look at Eugenia I literally feel like I am looking at my younger self. The same strange family Dynamic and the mother daughter control, the isolation, the eating disorder and everything! The only way people knew how to get involved was through police. I tried to escape many times. I was so depleted and numb, the fact I was dying never phased me. There were many ambulance situations, my mom would find out after I was admitted. I had two close calls between age 26-29. I began having seizures more frequently and became emotionless. My next admission would be different. My mother took me. I lost complete motorskills and I could not feel my limbs. I was turning blue and gasping for air. My mother was told that my next 24 hours were critical and needed to gather up the family. That's is the beginning of a huge change. going to die unless I was admitted. I needed to be on an IV and monitored 24/7. I had so much support and love from people all of my mom's side of the family I thought never cared. I later found out that close friends and family members from my dad's side were turned away. My mom put a halt to them showing me their concern and support by telling them I wasn't allowed any more visitors. My parents were divorced. My Dad and I were very close but after her had his stroke a few years prior he wasn't really the same. He was more of my best friend than an authority Anyways, in my life. he whole situation really came into perspective for me from the number 62. Numbers are the one thing that make sense and cannot be manipulated in a hospital. 5'4, 62 lbs, 30 years old sounds all wrong to me. To make matters worse I was wheelchair bound the whole month I was in hospital. Coming to this realization I had built up a lot of anger, resentment. It was hard and there were a lot of tears. A lot of tears though is better than none. Over time I began getting stronger and restoring my broken life and broken relationships. Three years later when I lost my Dad very suddenly. The love of my life was not longer with me. As lost as I was,I never let pain or fear come between me of my health ever again. I am 35 now and things are different. I have changed. I have a great respect and love for myself for the things I have overcome. I see the same for Eugenia. I think now that she sees she's getting attention in a positive way and realized how much of an impact she has on other people will push her to remain healthy so she can live her best life. Before she was getting an audience for the wrong reasons which only inspired her to get worse possibly reading people wouldn't watch her videos anymore. Now she knows that is not the case.
I feel like you and other people like you should go public with videos. Maybe this will wake Eugenia up that she's not alone. I feel like that would be very traumatic for you to make a video but if somehow you can do that I think people could help learn a lot. People who do not deal with eating disorders do not understand Eugenia or her family. I'm so glad you're feeling better now by the way!!
Survivor!
You are a survivor! I am so happy and proud of you! This is such a great comment.
Financial abuse and Munchausen by proxy, the driver and lawyer are working for her mother, not for her. She seems like a prisoner in her own home, her room is for show, and her house isn't her own. As a nurturing protective mother, this gave me feelings of dread for her safety.
I remember watching a video of hers a while ago where they’re at Disney world and Eugenia leaves the hotel by herself to go to magic kingdom.. then her mom calls her and tells her she needs to come back to the hotel because there’s an “incident” or some thing weird like that. Then Eugenia was gonna get the monorail back to her hotel and her mom told her to walk instead. Meanwhile everyone else in the background of the video were fine (no one freaking out like if there had been an incident). The whole video gave me a weird feeling tbh.
And her pink room is in the basement. Her room is in the basement of a house that she physically can't open the back door to..... I really believe she's not ok
Carrie Kup I’m gonna be honest. Seeing her with Shane and smiling gave me such a good feeling. But having thought more about the various things throughout the video - the lawyer, her mom, not being able to open her door - it all made me feel weird again. I do genuinely hope she can and will and IS talking to Shane or someone else that can help her
@@JaneMcQ100 ua-cam.com/video/vP_dShiXlS4/v-deo.html I found that video and she keeps on talking about not having money
LOLthisfun yeah. The whole thing is very strange to me
“This isn’t about money, this is about control”.
THANK YOU, I’ve always thought that
I think the breadcrumbs are the worrying parts in Shane's video. Maybe he's the person she's told everything to but he can't put all the stuff her mother does in his video because the mother/lawyer wouldn't allow it. So him and euginia came up with the plan to put little 'breadcrumbs' (not knowing how to unlock the door, the mother disappearing, etc) to direct the audience's attention to the situation between her and her mother? Even the way these parts were edited by Shane with creepy music alludes affects how the audience perceive the situation. Maybe it's all part of her plan to get out.
I really really hope so.
But what a plan?!she can go out and straight to the police, she is not 3y o
Wond3r Gurll She’s not allowed to go anywhere,they have a “driver”to take her places but never alone.They have locks on doors that she never knew about...
Eugenia wouldn't be allowed to speak, plot or plan with anyone. I bet her mother tracks her messages, phone calls etc
Róisín RIGHT!! The way Shane would look at the camera made it look like he knew what was really going on. Especially when they were talking about the door. I don’t know
word of advice: don’t fall asleep listening to this. i just jolted so hard awake to “ITS NOT OVER” like i was being attACKed
Did you get attacked in Rich Lux...? 😹
i was so frazzled and half asleep when i wrote this comment that i didn’t even realize the direct quote is “THIS IS NOT OVER”
Picturing this just made me laugh so hard I choked on the hot tamales I’m eating and now my nose is on fire 😂😂😂
Eugenia cooney literally has to call her mom to go upstairs. She doesn't even have permission to do that. You read that completely truly! You've done it yet again
What if she doesn’t have an eating disorder and her parents are starving her or something? Her personality seems very young like they have kept her hidden away and she never grew up.. man I hope I’m not right.. I usually have pretty good intuition 😕
Taryn Lewis i literally just said this to myself
Taryn Lewis I think this too. It’s like another Gypsy Rose case ☹️
I have heard other people who are recovering from EDs say that it can stunt or slow emotional maturity.
This is close to what I thought but with Dad sexually abusing the poor girl. She needs help!!😥😥😥
Her mother is definitely narcissist
I don't think Shane's video was underwhelming, it was perfect. Eugenia was leaving clues in her videos, so Shane did the same why do you think we are all here and felt something was off, Shane wanted us to see what was actually happening. Jaclyn explained to us why we were feeling this way due to her giving details. Shane said he could get sued so he left clues to try and get the info out but not get sued because the lawyer was there and Shane made sure we knew he was there. Pray for Eugenia!
Political Mina y’all are giving Shane too much credit Lololol he made a video to help the girl get back on UA-cam. Periodttt
@@sinontherocks that's all you see on the surface and to deny the possibility that shane isn't blind to what's going on is truly simple minded.
@@sinontherocks I get where you're coming from however it's taken this long to do one episode because all of the shady things going on behind the scenes and trying to figure out how to execute it without causing problems. We're not looking too much into it. Shane is very meticulous and incredibly intelligent there's no way its that cut and dry.
@@raebentley4028 Lolol.
Sho is Jaclyn? I’m so confused
I can’t get this story out of my head. I know she’s crying out for help, and I don’t want to assume anything but I keep coming back to Shane’s video and Ant’s comments that Shane isn’t stupid, he knows what he’s doing. He’s a great filmmaker and this wasn’t it. He wouldn’t make something like this without substance. Ant says they left clues and breadcrumbs so if he’s right, there are some things I picked up on. I could be reading WAY too far into this, but I can’t shake this story. I’m so worried about this girl and I’ve never heard of her before Shane..
-a 5150 is an involuntary hold for 72 hours. If Eugenia’s mother truly believed she didn’t need help, would she really enter her into a rehab program after? I PRAY that she did. But I found it super interesting that when Shane and Eugenia were talking on her bed, the video went back and forth between Katy’s comments and Eugenia’s responses. They were eerily similar. Now it could obviously be that Katy knows what it’s like and Eugenia has experienced it, but What if Eugenia never went to a program and that was scripted? We now know that Katy knew Eugenia’s background because Jaclyn was communicating with her. But she clearly stated “I don’t know her story.” Because she’s not her patient, Katy could have taken the information she received from jaclyn and shared it with Shane. At the same time, Ant said that Eugenia made some revelations while in treatment, so this could be way off.
-obviously the lawyer being there was odd, answering the door, etc. but Shane made it known at every opportunity. He mentioned and showed him whenever he could. Why is this guy okay with whatever is going on? There’s got to be more to him. Either he’s shady and he’s the eyes and ears for the mom, or he’s team Shane and a way for the mom to trust the video would be done the way she wanted.
-Eugenia has never dressed so conservative. She’s usually very exposed so it’s strange that she is so covered up. Her face looked better, but she knows how to use makeup as she’s said and could easily add color and life to what could be pale and fragile skin, ALLEGEDLY. As for her saying that her hair was never an issue, I’m not buying it. It’s long, but it looks thin and brittle.
-in the beginning of the video Shane tells Katy he’s watched Eugenia’s videos and noticed that her voice has changed and gotten higher over time . He says that he doesn’t know if he’s going to get the real, authentic Eugenia, or a character that’s covering something up. 1. This shows that Shane has taken a considerable amount of time to look into Eugenia’s videos and he picks up on small details like tone of voice. There’s no way he didn’t pick up on other inconsistencies and oddities in her life. 2. The “character” voice Shane is referring to is High pitched with a lot of “likes,” the same version of Eugenia we got in his interview with her. Almost as if to show that this isn’t her, her guard is up and it’s not authentic.
- Shane says to Andrew that he’s nervous as he gets close to their house, which is understandable on such a touchy subject. But then andrew says he’s nervous too. I mean maybe he was, but most of the time he’s just capturing these moments and while it’s not easy, I’m not sure it would warrant nervousness. Unless they knew they were going in there to film clues and it had to be done right if it was going to work.
- the big hero poster was referenced twice, which I know multiple people have referenced, but I think it’s important. Baymax is a selfless hero who cares for others, much like Shane.
- while it’s obvious Eugenia loves makeup, I wonder if they stressed that purposefully to give Shane a reason to return. It would be a connection between the two and if Shane drops off makeup to visit with Eugenia it’s not as suspicious as randomly stopping in.
- Shane made sure we knew Eugenia was unfamiliar with the house. She stumbled over where her mother was and where the sound was coming from in the kitchen. She said her mother was around somewhere as she had just been there, but then awkwardly says she travels back and forth from Connecticut. For someone that rarely lets her daughter out of the house and has hired a driver that stays parked outside when she does leave, I’m doubting she would jet back and forth to Connecticut. The 4 locks on the door to the outside had to be opened by Shane because Eugenia didn’t know how to work them or how many were there, and he stepped to the side to ensure andrew caught all of the locks on camera. Also, They stopped at the wallpaper? Eugenia said it came with the house. So they haven’t made any updates? That wallpaper is old and outdated and has none of Eugenia’s aesthetic. The house does not seem like hers at all, except for her room. The awkwardly placed table and chairs that no one has sat in.. The stove flashing the time because it had not been set..
- the makeup that Shane got for Eugenia from Jeffree.. the lipstick she chose to use was called control freak. But she said she would be using ‘I’m the boss’ soon.
- Eugenia said her friends were bullies as Shane just stared at her emotionless without comment or question. Eugenia said they never cared but then tried to make decisions for her. But then she said there were people who genuinely cared for her, to which Shane inserts a clip of her father walking into her room while she’s streaming and says hi to her. Is this their way of saying that her friends are actually the ones that cared and her father is the one that has caused more harm than good?? Seems strange to put that Clip in that spot. But of course Eugenia can’t say that her friends are caring people because there’s a lawyer watching her every step and her mother is lurking somewhere in the house.
-I’m wondering if Eugenia’s mother has guardianship over her. I know she’s 24 but if they applied for guardianship because of an eating disorder, claiming Eugenia was too sick to make decisions for herself, her mother would make all decisions for her, legally and medically. And the mother would need to keep her unwell in order to maintain the guardianship and control.
Okay I’ll stop. This is all complete speculation, my personal opinions and ALLEGED. and is only a result of me being concerned for Eugenia’s well being. I know that I could be looking at things too much and taking things way too far none of this adds up to me. Don’t come for me!
-in one of Eugenia’s older videos she opens a dresser drawer and it is filled with Teeth whiteners. Eugenia even says she didn’t realize she had so many. So she says her teeth are fine, but she’s also been whitening them regularly. I whiten my teeth too, but it was brought up in Shane’s video that her teeth have never been affected. That may be the case of course, but the whitener would also hide any signs if it were untrue.
-another video shows Eugenia shopping and walking outside in the rain. Because she was so cold, she says, at 3 different times throughout the video “I’m going to die” or “I’m dying.” I’m sure we’ve all said similar things when feeling cold and it’s a simple exaggeration. I would just think with everyone’s eyes constantly on her appearance and consistently telling her they’re worried, that wouldn’t be the phrasing I would choose.. Especially not 3 times.
-It’s Almost as if Eugenia babies her mother. In my personal opinion.. complete speculation, the mother has some cognitive impairments or mental health issues. ALLEGEDLY. Eugenia seems to care for her and could quite possibly be the only one doing so. It may be a lot of pressure on Eugenia to take on this role, especially for her mother. It could also be another reason she’s reluctant to leave.
-When Eugenia posts a video of her time visiting Connecticut, it’s clear she has Such a limited vocabulary. She talks about the gas station pump and how many options of gas there are and where the gas is coming from. As if we’ve never seen a gas station before. I assume her development was somewhat halted both emotionally and cognitively when she experienced trauma or when her eating disorder began. ALLEGEDLY.
-On her way home from shopping, she says that they took a route home that they don’t normally take and they ended up at her old school. She got out and said how much she hated it there and she had so many negative experiences there and didn’t like even standing outside, visibly appearing to be uncomfortable . 1. Why would her mom conveniently drive that route when they never take it? 2. Why would they stop and have her get out if it has such negative emotions associated with it?
-She says the only thing she likes about her town, remembering the bus ride home from school, was seeing the ponies, as they drive by horse stables. Then she notes that there is a girl riding a horse and they pull over and stop to watch her. It obviously brings Eugenia some sense of happiness, which brought me back to another video she had made. Eugenia said she was obsessed with bratz dolls as a child. So much so that her teachers needed to discuss Eugenia’s obsession with her mother and suggested she take horse riding lessons instead. My brain immediately thinks that the teachers saw something unhealthy going on and recognized Eugenia’s love for horses, trying to get her mother to see the same and enroll her in something she was passionate about. Eugenia then tells us that instead, her mother went out and bought her more bratz dolls. This is a wealthy area of Connecticut and we’ve been told the parents are well off, so it wasn’t a financial issue. Did this ultimately lead to Eugenia being home schooled? As more teachers picked up on the unhealthy behavior in the home did her mother pull her out?
-Seeing the mother’s behavior and her relationship with Eugenia, she does not seem fit to be home schooling her daughter.
Tayla Makevich wow you are perceptive, I read your whole comment, I never heard of Eugenia before and have been saying the Shane documentary was “fluffy” because he was being respectful because, from personal experience, you don’t want to talk about your eating disorder or your recovery, but like wowwwww you guys are on to something 🙀
thank you so so soooo much! you’re story genuinely seems realistic and it seems you have done a lot of research! have you commented this on shane’s video?
Tayla Makevich OH. MY. GOD. I am so beyond afraid for her.
Wow you go girl... you're good at decoding stuffs..
This was the MOST interesting reading I have Ever seen you do. If any of this is accurate, it sounds like a crazy lifetime movie.
For real dude
Yessss !!! Just like a lifetime movie omg !!
Obviously I absolutely do not wish anyyyyyy harm on Eugina AT ALLLLL. But if something bad did happen to her, I guarantee someone would make a movie about it. Since social media is such a strong thing nowadays. Obviously I never hope it comes to it of course.
It feels like a case of sexual abuse where the mother was jealous and/or didn’t believe it happened. The mother has always given me super creepy vibes. The mother in me just wants to give her a huge hug. It breaks my heart.
jenniferly23 I don’t think her dads sexually abusing her. He’s never around he lives in Connecticut, the most he’s done is call her beautiful and says she looks young. And she doesn’t. A dad saying his daughter looks like his little girl isn’t that weird.... the mom shared a bed with her. Didn’t give her an option when her parents separated
@@NCcatlady It could have been when she was young.
Sande June it could have, but her mom has had a weird obsession with showing off her body and playing dress up. She didn’t need to make her share a bed when they were in a big house when her parents decided to split up but were living in the same home. I get a molestation vibe from the mom, even if it’s subtle touching or looking at her
Sande June watch videos with her mom and how she talks about her body
It’s like a mix of living vicariously through her being skinny and having an obsession
It’s not always the dad
Sometimes it’s the mom
@@NCcatlady I hope that she gets away from her mom.
Her case is soooooo dripping of Gypsy Rose Blanchard vibes.
YES! Like a form of Munchausen's!
Eugenia is going to meet Gypsy Rose!!!!!! She said next week!! Gypsy rose just got out!!!! 😮
Other weird things:
She looked malnourished and underfed in her childhood photos.
She referred to her eating disorder in the past tense, which is a big indicator that the person is still in denial.
Titty Kitty Cookie Maybe that’s why she ended up being homeschooled. Because the mother was starving her and has been for a long time. And she was causing red flags at school. So she took her out and continued her sick evil plan. Idk just a theory.
@@DoTheMost- Yea I have a lot of theories too. It's pretty dark. I have a feeling this is just the beginning and it's not going to end well.
Natalies Mom Yeah I thought it was odd that she didn’t talk about what she use to eat or eats now. Like is she on a feeding schedule? Does her mom selectively feed her?
Titty Kitty Cookie And not to mention her creepy dad as well. I hope there is a positive resolution to this.
B B Anything is possible. I wouldn’t put it past that woman. Have you watched a video of her mom pretending to be Eugenia and Eugenia pretending to be her mom? I couldn’t even finish watching it. Disturbing.
DING DONG.
We have a psychic emergency
WE KNOW WE’VE BEEN WAITING ANT
Any mother that would look at their child in such a poor state obviously doesn't have their child's best interest.
“For anyone who knows tarot, you probably just crapped your pants” I literally AUDIBLY gasped, and pulled away from my phone🤭
Michelle Cometa it’s soo sad
I did her mom and got the lovers card death and the tower in that order. Her mother is not good
Shelby Root 😶 holy shit
Shelby Root omg....
My heart dropped i instantly felt anxious
If thats a showhouse, that's probably why she didnt know how to open the door. That lawyer was with shane and watching like a hawk
@Zoom Zooms probably. The mini house tour i kinda wanna see more so i can speculate more lol
www.zillow.com/homedetails/1355-Cedar-Court-Rd-Glendale-CA-91207/20838261_zpid/ looks like they didn't change much from when they bought the house.
@@scardetroit3896 How did you even find it?
LOLthisfun how do they afford a million dollar house?
@@scardetroit3896 oh wow, it really still look the same. Even some of the stuff on the walls. Makes you think they either 1. haven't lived there very long at all or 2. it is not their house at all and it is a showhouse!!
Yeah, I was surprised by that lock scene as well.
Anttttt make merch that says " allegedly" lol in pink
Or "for entertainment purposes only"
@@twelfthnight371 the more merch THE BETTER!! :D
Yesssss!! I said this to him a few videos back!
Yes please. I rarely buy merchandise but I love Ant and I would buy that!
@@hermiesrokmysox same here! I don't buy merch much, but i'm willing to buy something from ant
Her mom always creeped me out in videos tbh. the fact that she disappeared for Shane’s video but her lawyer was there??? Definitely off. I think Shane knows that but couldn’t say anything explicitly, so he left little stuff like that in so we could piece it together. I really feel for Eugenia, such a pure soul
I heard people are worried about her again maybe it’s worth doing another read on her
Please!!
I’m just worried it’s gonna be dark.
Thank you so much for doing this. I'm genuinely concerned about Eugenia. Shane knows something. He left bread crumbs all over that video for us
How?
Everything in that video was freaking fishy....and if you've watched Shane's videos you can tell when he thinks things don't add up...it felt like he knew more and almost had like a gag order not to say certain things...her lawyer was there the whole time... like who does that...
Definitely saw them. He asked questions that he knew we were going to have “where’s your mom? Does she live here? Do you live here? Who lives here?” Being visibly creeped out by the backdoor. He and Andrew edited and left in some stuff that could have been avoided, we never had to see the lawyer lurking in the background, but they made it a focus for a reason.
I hope something is done soon and Shane does or makes a statement about it
I FEEL THE SAME WAY, AMA! Specially with Jaclyn saying that K. Morton knew it all along.
It's clear to anyone paying attention, she's being abused by her mother, and also possibly the father. The dynamic between her brother and herself is volatile at best. You could pick up on that from some of her old videos, and you can see how f-ed up the family dynamic is from her "draw my life" video where she said some extremely disturbing things. I feel for this girl. It's clear to me she's trapped in an abusive family dynamic. I wish we could help her.
Watching now. Love your protectiveness. Thank you for what you do. God bless you!
I’m SO GLAD you’re doing this!! I felt all of the same things. It was SUCH a weird vibe the entire time. I don’t think she was ready yet to make this video with Shane and be open and honest. It’s too soon in her recovery.
WHAT IF, this "lame" video with Shane was juste the first step for her beginning to get out, and she AND Shane PURPOSEFULLY made the video crappy and superficial to begin to draw attention, and this is all a very big plan to escape and lit the whole shit on fire once and for all!
Nope. People don't understand that Eugenia loves her mother and doesn't know she is being manipulated. Her mother tells her that she has a heart condition and Eugenia is constantly walking on egg shells because she thinks if she upsets her mom it will cause her heart to go out. Eugenia's best friend in the world is her mom. She would never plot against her or leave her because she would be afraid of hurting her mom. That is how the mom manipulates Eugenia into doing whatever she wants her to do. It is guilt and shame, not overt abuse that the mother uses to control Eugenia.
I think so. Shane and andrew aren't dumb.
there's a thing called lawyers. this could never happen. they probably signed contracts etc.
As someone who has come from an abusive/chaotic home, here is my take: I think the Dad may have a track record of cheating and wreckless behavior hence her speaking about him always in NYC and being mostly absent. I think both parents are alcoholics and toxic when together probably alot of fights and chaos. Now, the father isn't really around much prob due to the fighting and possible cheating and other chaotic and aggressive situations/behavior. I think Eugenia's mom does love her but not the way a mother should. Her mother is very codependent and unable to let go of her daughter out of fear of being alone. Her mom needs and craves something to control because she herself does not have a handle on the family dynamic or even herself due to addiction. This also goes hand in hand with Eugenia's Eating disorder. People don't understand that Eating Disorders aren't always about weight and the fear of gaining weight it's a way to gain some type of control over themselves and with Eugenia's mom controlling her at every turn, this makes sense. I don't think her mother enables her ED purposefully but I do think she is so controlling to the point where she believes "Keeping it in the family" is the best thing and only SHE can "help" her daughter but she isn't a professional and her need to control clouds all judgement. I think Eugenia walks on eggshells due to her moms outbursts and also plays therapist for her mom instead of child. Her mom seems to depend on Eugenia alot to not be alone or depressed otherwise she will drink more which explains Eugenia's lack of mental growth and growing up. Her mom likes it this way because it keeps her childlike bc then she does not have to face the fact that Eugenia is a GROWN woman. I also do think Eugenia just enjoys childlike things and aesthetics (as do I, nothing wrong w that but this does enable the mom to view her as immature) As far as the youtube thing goes, just like he said in this video this has been going on way before she became known on social media. Social media and youtube became a way for her to Express herself and do what she wants without being stifled which is why in her older videos she stutters less, is more sure of herself and seems happier. I think the more well known she became the more overprotective and overbearing her mom became and the money eugenia started making only became yet another way and means to control her. This entire family dynamic screams control, control, control whether it's the dad controlling the mom financially or through cheating, ect and in return her mom controlling her. There also could be some sexual abuse that happened early in Eugenia's life that could have been from the father or another family member or even a babysitter or stranger which explains Eugenia's fear of "creepy old men" she has mentioned several times and her odd need to specify "NOT INCEST." I sense alot of chaos and fights and discourse that Eugenia and even her brother possibly blame themselves for which is again why she continues to stick around. Eugenia's ED makes this situation tougher bc her mom obviously isn't going to feel comfortable with her daughter living alone with this illness. Alot of chaos, fighting, addiction, self blame, mental illness, family secrets and possible sexual abuse with this family and I just hope that she gathers the strength to get the help she needs not only with her ED but to also escape. She deserves to have her own life and discover herself and have her own identity outside of her mother and UA-cam. To me it also seems as if UA-cam may not even really be serving her much anymore. I see that spark in her eyes reappear when she games and talks about gaming and makeup. Makeup seems to be a big love of hers. Her mom may glamorize her and the channel and has a "high" knowing her daughter is well known which explains why She is always so controlling and overtly excited to participate in videos and Eugenia basically side eyes the whole time because she is so stifling. I think Eugenia partly keeps up with the Channel in certain ways and as much as she does because it gives her mom and maybe even the rest of the family something to be proud of and to look forward to (Fame, status, money) other than Eugenia doing it for herself. She has lost herself and it's so incredibly sad. I truly hope that she is able to get out of this bc she deserves so much. You can tell she is a sweet person and usually those who are soft spoken, anxious and sweet are the ones who have been abused and never want to "Rock the boat" or upset anyone.
Another take is the dad isnt as bad and separates himself alot because he cant handle eugenia's moms controlling behavior and addiction so theres a huge divide
@@strawbabyfoxfae yeah thats the feeling I'm getting. I feel like he maybe did some usual bad things in a relationship. cheating, drinking too much or just being away for too long for work. And I think he fully disagrees with how the mom is handling things. I mean, we heard how she reacted to Jacyln for getting eugenia REAL help. He could have in the past been the only one with a level normal head on the matter, and a lot of disagreements and arguements stemmed from Eugenias ED. he could just feel like its a lost cause at this point, because he knows the situation and the people involved. And if he's always gone, the mom could share lots of bad opinions about the father, painting him in a bad light, and eugenia believing it all. I think he's staying out of it, coz he disagrees and doesnt want to get dragged into the conspiracies. Like a normal person would do in a similar situation. The mom however enjoys it a little too much which I find more of a red flag than the dad not being around to watch the trainwreck
Wow! very well said!
I’m commenting early but I also found it strange that she couldn’t open the door herself when it’s her house... and I definitely found the decorations weird like it doesn’t fit her style also I found it even more weird that the guy opened the door and almost pushed her back out of the way! And she’s a daily vlogger and has never showed more then the pink room.... also the guy kept following them around during the interview
I thought it was weird that he was following around too
do you know who that guy was? did they ever say? I don't recall
VeryKarie43 she said it was her lawyer
That was Eugenia's lawyer.
Or Eugenia’s families lawyer perhaps
Btw, I honestly hope the problem with the dad isn't abuse. Because I feel that might fit perfectly with her condition.
Happens way to often to young children :( and that’s the vibes I’ve been getting
Tbh I was thinking that also and was thinking that could explain why she's inbetween both parents and why the mum is treating her this way. I also hope it isn't!
I’ve felt the same way this whole time. It explains a lot.
I'm thinking the same thing and hopefully it's not sexual abuse.
Yeah same there are videos of him walking in on her live streams and commenting on her body. It’s all very strange and every time he would enter she would get really nervous and say, “hey guys, see my dad is here. I’m on a livestream”. Almost like saying to her dad, you better not do anything because the camera is on. I think her live-streaming and getting online was her way of getting her dad to leave her alone
There is.... (curling my hair with a wand) 5:25 you here her parents... someone saying “you’re going to kill her” and then a female saying “I want the money” listen closely.... then Eugenia pausing, repeating herself and not cutting it out??? Sounds like a cry for help
:O what video? Where do you hear this? I am confused:s
E P (curling my hair with a wand) at 5:25 turn the volume all the way up and listen closely....
@@demistrasser2300 found it thanks !
Please please PLEAAAAASSSEEE do a Reading on Malaysian Airlines MH370 🙏🏼
MyMUA Journey yesssssss I second and third this!!!!! Please !
I'm malaysian and i'm intrigued.
MyMUA Journey yessss
THIS. but I would be scared for him if he does! There is so much conspiracy around that!
L O S T
Sometimes I feel as though this is a case of munchhousins( sp) by proxy or shared psychosis.
This is exactly whaat comes to mind for me too. But that's just one layer of this layer cake of a shit storm.
Jean Fish at the very least her mother refused her treatment when she was younger so she couldn’t reveal her home life to professionals and now that she’s an adult she doesn’t assume any responsibility for her daughter’s health. She’s probably told Eugenia that the doctors won’t understand their family and will tear it apart. It was a narrative I lived with as a child in an abusive home, outsiders are dangerous and will break up the family, if you tell then it’s your fault and you broke up the family.
I was thinking this too.
*münchausen
Yes but Eugenia actually does have an illness with food so it would make it something different
At 28:38 he brings up the possibility of her leaving a message in a video like a bread crump and it reminds me SO MUCH of that one video she made curling her hair where in the background (allegedly) her mother and another woman are heard yelling at each other "You're killing her!" "I want the money!"
She could've cut that out but she didn't and people are saying she left it on purpose as a scream for help.
Can I ask is that house owned by Eugenia?... if that is euginias house, why is her room downstairs? IDK I just found that odd. If I right now at 24 bought a house, my mother would be downstairs and I would have the master. She even said her mom goes back and forth between houses soooo why does she have downstairs? Things aren't right and I'm pissed for Eugenia.
She's literally locked in the dungeon!!
honestly I think that's just cause she cant/couldn't go up and down stairs
Cassie Libkie nope someone looked up the deed on the houses they own and Eugenia is not on any of them😢🤬
Her mom is a leech taking Eugenia's money and then deciding what to do with it. It's like Eugenia doesn't buy anything, her mom continues to treat her like a child and buys it for her. Then when "Eugenia" buys a house, her mom probably put it in her own name and was like "since I do everything for you I'm choosing upstairs" or something like that.
Cassie Libkie farther away from the kitchen.... lmao sorry I had too
When you said that she’s smarter than we think and that there’s something in a video, I got chills!
There’s a video where she is curling her hair, and you can clearly hear people arguing in the back and somebody says “you’re gonna kill her!” And then a woman (I guess the mom) says something like “it’s for the money!”
I really can’t remember but the videos is still in her channel and is about her trying a curl iron,
That video is SUPER important because It’s obvious that Eugenia left that in the video on purpose
Anna Mora what’s the name of the video ?
@@liamtz383 It's called curling my hair with a wand. At 5:25 you can hear the, "you're going to kill her" and 5:30 "i need the money" or "give me the money" or something. She ends the video not long after. It's very creepy.
There is also someone saying “Be quiet!” After the money part.
M M thank you! Yes it’s exactly that one!
It’s sad and creepy because she didn’t even finish to do what she was doing... :(
You visibly see her body language change after she hears it...
Jaclyn's newest video pretty much confirms this. She said her mom uses an excuse against EC about how she has a weak heart and how EC's going to kill her. This is crazy.
There's some videos whereshe says her dad's home(which sounds like he lives there) and he walks in on her streaming and right away she tells him she's streaming and she sits up straighter and changes her voice to sound more formal when speaking to him. You can tell she seems uncomfortable or on edge around him. He's never on camera. On one video where it's her birthday he tell her that she looks great and not a day over 14. Pretty weird to compliment your adult daughter on looking 14 and being skin and bones :( Both her parents are so toxic. I really really home she gets away from them asap.
WHAT IF, since Jaclyn and her friends were the reason eugenia had a 5051, aand Katie also became involved thanks to Jaclyn, then Katie was involved in the Shane video.. Shane MIGHTVE know Jaclyns side of the story when he went to eugenias house, and this is all part of some crazy plan to save eeugenia? Shane wouldve been some ssort of spy in this scenario. Since his video wwas so fluffy, and we aall believe that's bbc of the mother and the lawyer, but Shane must have a ton of interesting footage ffrom his time over there..
VERY INTERESTING
What is a 5051? Sorry lol
Brianna Medina It’s actually a 5150. It’s for adult to be involuntary hospitalized if there’s a mental health crisis.
yep that is exctly what i was thinking i know whats going on and a lot more is to come watch the act you can see some similarities its on hulu
Totally forgot about that part. Theres no way Katie didnt tell him whats going on.
“Allegedly...”
I sense sexual abuse and or something like that - the father stands out to me here for that.
Also, I wonder if she is being blamed for that.. often jealous mothers will blame their child during this time. I’ve seen this.
I think the mother blames her, for the abuse.. I also think the mother has some other issues as well, abusive , controlling etc
The family dynamic I am sensing is not good.
Huh, the mother is the one who screams"I'm molesting my child," not the dad.... Look at how her mom interacts with her in old videos and the creepy comments she makes about her body. But the biggest cluse for me were in her draw my Life video which she took down. She says in that vid that her mom and her are really close but that it's not incest....
If that doesn't spell "SEXUAL ABUSE" from the mom then I don't know what does. Plus there's the issue of her mom forcing her to share a bed when her parents separated, and that's exactly what a sexual predator would do. Stop blaming the dad and open your eyes
It's very possible she was abused by both parents
You know? In Shane’s video there is a song by #Catie, named “Breath” and in a part it says “it is not just you, is my family, friends... even my mother. I just need space to breath” 🤭
Yes!!! I feel like shane knows what is going on and he is trying to help her escape this nasty world she is in!
What if the reason for Eugenia becoming so thin was because her mum was so controlling and abusive and she thought that the only control she had was her body 🤷🏻♀️ probably not but conspiracy
That's usually the deal with disordered eating it's not about food or weight it's about control.
That’s the reason people do so many harmful things to themselves. To feel they have some control.
That is not conspiracy, that's a disorder in a nutshell.
RustyNail0707 I’m talking about what I wrote is a conspiracy not the disorder
@@meggibee6005 i agree
I love how confident you are at reading cards... great job!
I feel like the person she sent the smoke signal to is Shane, and maybe he's going to do a follow up or a mini series that's going to help her get out. 👀
Euph0rigenic he was sharing sneak peaks that were him saying “am I gonna get sued?” Didn’t he?
I feel like that the abuse ....more like a sexual abuse came from her mother, remember not only men can abuse also women do it to. I feel really bad everything seems to be odd.
It looks like all the things she said were hints for somebody to listen and understand that she was in trouble.
Or her mother was selling EC off to men who would pay the mom
I feel like it was a family thing the father and mother.
She was sooo much more lively when she was younger. Now she has a fake smile on and you can see she’s hollow emotionally. Sooo saddddd.
I think she has a plan to get out as well. She was away for rehab, away from her mother..maybe she started to gather the strength to leave.
I’m getting a Gypsy Rose and Dee Dee vibes 😳😳😳 lord I hope she’s ok. ❤️
Kady W me too so worried xx
I love the “allegedly for entertainment purposes only” he said so calmly 😂
while low-key freaking out about how bad the cards seem to be...
Alice 5 i know right you get a creepy idea of what the theory is behind what happened and what’s going on..
Michelle Gomez and then proceeds to get everything on point but yet things are allegedly
I love him
Also her daddy on one live stream said Eugenia is looking good and looks like a 14-15 years old in a very creepy way
Yes I was just saying this too, he has commented on her body at least a couple of times. It’s pretty gross for a father to do. I definitely think if she was abused by him, her mom blames her, which is disgusting too
I believe he said “you don’t look a day over 14” and she immediately asked the live stream if she looks 14 almost like she was warning her r dad she was live before he would say more
Zoom Zooms they both seem mentally very off-I can’t tell if they are drunk or have below average IQs
What I don't get is... I know if you're financially dependent on your parents it can literally feel like you're trapped inside a prison.. I've been there, sort of still am. But Eugenia is not. So somehow Eugenia's mom is using other tactics like making her feel guilty or afraid? Idk this whole situation is super messy in so many ways. I think it will literally take years for her to sort this all out.... Maybe 5 to 10 years.. But if something happens, like for example her mother literally shows her true colors to her or if the mother dies... She's gonna need time to recover but will eventually move on.. But there's also the eating disorder which still could kill her... Relapses happen... Or maybe things aren't as bad as they seem... I'd be very disappointed in Jaclyn if she lied at any point...