FAVOURITE LENS the Tamron 90mm 2 8 SP Di Macro. The Portrait/Macro lens

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  • Опубліковано 23 січ 2025

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  • @unix108
    @unix108 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the great review!!! I've buyed this one today and after that video I can't wait for it!

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому +2

      Your welcome. It is my favorite lens! I'm pretty sure you will be very happy with it.

  • @missmerrily4830
    @missmerrily4830 4 місяці тому +1

    A rather late comment to your video on this lens, but having just acquired one, very handy for me to find you. Just want to say 'thank you' for your clear explanation of what the lens can do and your overall review. Your enthusiasm for it is infectious. So helpful!

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 місяці тому +1

      Fashionably late is just fine. Glad you enjoyed the video. I still use and love this lens.

  • @MrAnthontrang
    @MrAnthontrang Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much for the video. I just bought this lens and can't wait to test it.

  • @UnauthorizedCreations
    @UnauthorizedCreations 2 місяці тому +1

    I used this lens for filming a wedding and it worked so well. Awesome lens!!!

  • @EOD_90
    @EOD_90 2 роки тому +3

    I really love this lens, I managed to find one at a pawn shop a few months back for EXTREMELY cheap. I do product shots with it, and its amazing.

  • @JohnAdamZiolkowski
    @JohnAdamZiolkowski 5 років тому +5

    I don't have much experience with photography but I'm finding these deep dives into specific bits of equipment really interesting! This is the first time that I've heard of the focus limiter, and I can see how it can help save some frustration. But that aside, wow, its actually crazy you can get these amazing macro shots using the same lens. Some of these really blow me away!

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  5 років тому +1

      That it is why it is one of my favorite lens, it handles my type of work beautifully.

  • @awksedgreep
    @awksedgreep Рік тому +1

    I remember drooling over that lens about 15 years ago. Never actually picked one up.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому

      It still remains a great lens. Might find yourself a good used one at a good price now.

  • @olesyaschreurs8067
    @olesyaschreurs8067 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for all details with this lens. I just got it.

  • @OtonTattoo
    @OtonTattoo 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the greatest review of these lens on UA-cam, im bought it a few days and can't wait to attach it on my 70D for the rest of their lifes. LOL, one more subscriber =D

  • @chuckmac3994
    @chuckmac3994 6 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful work. I've just bought this for £138 Ex Condition, can't wait to use. Have it's Big Brother the 180 f3.5 which I love.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  6 місяців тому

      Thank you. Great price for the lens! Think you will be very happy you added it to your collection.

  • @MarkP-df8ho
    @MarkP-df8ho 4 місяці тому +1

    I recently got thos lens for my D5600, yeah its a 135mm on that but growing up i always shot with my OM 135MM. I SIMPLY LOVE THIS LENS. GREAT for nature and people photography!! Thanks for the video

  • @UnauthorizedCreations
    @UnauthorizedCreations 2 роки тому +3

    I have had this lens for a few days now. OMG!! I love this lens. The image is sharp and I've been using it for close up ASMR video shots. The only thing I don't like is that the auto focus is really loud, but that's okay. My shot is set before I start filming. All in all, this is a great lens and I'm glad I purchased it.

  • @WWZWrestlingWarZone
    @WWZWrestlingWarZone 8 місяців тому +2

    I have this lens and it's amazing. Great for video too.

  • @les8518
    @les8518 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. I love my Tamron 90mm too.

  • @bradnelson2637
    @bradnelson2637 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for posting this…
    Just bought one on Ebay for $123…looking forward to using it.

  • @notaone-also
    @notaone-also 3 роки тому +2

    Great images and great review! My most favorite focal length is 135mm and with my D300 I'm set without spending an arm and a leg. And what a blast I can have with my older Nikon film cameras at 90mm!! Thanks!!

  • @shademanirvanipour6870
    @shademanirvanipour6870 4 роки тому +1

    I been given one of these Tamron 90mm macro 2.8 lens and I will be using it for portraits and still Life macro photography

  • @view5558
    @view5558 3 роки тому +1

    I agree with you 100%. I have one and it blew me away.

  • @paulfederici1012
    @paulfederici1012 4 роки тому +2

    I just bought the objective and your video comforted me with my choice :) Thank you for the presentation!

  • @leoncools806
    @leoncools806 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks! I liked the pictures you showed (and the revieuw).

  • @leew3rd
    @leew3rd 3 роки тому +3

    I watched some reviews of this lens and your review convinced me to purchase this lens. I use two "ancient" cameras, (Nikon D50 & Nikon D300), so this lens is a 135mm on the crop sensor. It fits my needs if I want a portrait shot or up close shot of flowers, etc.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      I still have a D50, it sits on my shelf now. I think you will be really pleased with the lens.

  • @ussmillerco
    @ussmillerco 3 роки тому +4

    There are several versions of this lens. First off don’t assume the current version (VR) is the same lense as it’s a different design altogether. The earliest version is actually one of tamrons last adaptall manual focus lenses, where you can buy separate mounts for the lense for different camera systems (72b). From there the 72e, 172e and the last of this lens formula debut around 2004 and 2008, in the 272e. Not much in the way of differences (cosmetic) from 72e (1996) to 172e (1999) (D) but the 272e was a (Di -digitally integrated with updated coatings to reduce sensor reflections, and the 272e apparently came in early (screw drive) and late models as the later version had an internal focus motor (like Nikon af-s). All of these versions are excellent IQ wise for close up or portrait work. Just trying to clarify the history of this very capable lens. I have the 272e that was produced after 2008 that has the internal focus motor, and love the sharpness of this lens.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      Wow, thanks for all the info. I love this lens, it is pretty much my go to lens.

  • @markomilojevic8122
    @markomilojevic8122 3 роки тому +1

    Niiiice! 🙌🏻 I'll definitely buy it

  • @MaurizioMoscatelli-photo
    @MaurizioMoscatelli-photo 2 дні тому +1

    Is the Tamron 90mm 2.8 SP Di Macro compatible with Nikon Z series in autofocus (with the FTZ adapter)? I understand that it has an internal non-ultrasonic motor. What can you tell me?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  2 дні тому

      Sorry i can't answer that. I do not use a Nikon Z series.
      You might find the answer on Nikon's web under compatible lens.

  • @Hotrob_J
    @Hotrob_J 26 днів тому +1

    I love doing macro, and seeing the textures I can't see with my naked eys. This lens has been on my wish list for a while, but finally broke down and ordered one.
    Currently, my best macro lens is a Tamron 103A, which I paid $3 for and is beat to hell and can't focus to infinity, and I don't really have a good portrait lens. My boyfriend needed some portrait work done so he'd have a nice one for his Director headshot, and I realized I didn't have a great portrait lens. This looks like it'll do a great job for both use cases :)

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  26 днів тому

      I think you will be very happy with the lens.
      It works so well for both.
      Have fun with your new lens.

  • @Fotografie-EigenART
    @Fotografie-EigenART 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much! You helped me to make my decision.....tonight I will pick up my lens! :o)

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому

      Glad I could help!

    • @Fotografie-EigenART
      @Fotografie-EigenART 3 роки тому +1

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography You really did! - I got the lens and it is fantastic! On my SONY A7RII it took some industrial nightshots, the look great and they are very sharp...tomorrow I will try the macros :o)

    • @Fotografie-EigenART
      @Fotografie-EigenART 3 роки тому +1

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography By the way.....My name in short form is also -Michael C.- thats very interesting!!!

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      @@Fotografie-EigenART That is awesome, happy you like it. haha, you will get hooked on macros....

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      @@Fotografie-EigenART Hmm, my evil twin LOL

  • @oppopooop3058
    @oppopooop3058 5 років тому +1

    Thank you very much.
    I have just bought the Tamron 90mm lens and was at a loss how to use it
    You have shown me very clearly.

  • @oppopooop3058
    @oppopooop3058 3 роки тому +1

    I have one and really love it.

  • @davefrancis2581
    @davefrancis2581 4 роки тому +2

    You've convinced me...I'm off to buy one-second hand

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому

      As long as the lens is in good condition, you will not be disappointed. I love that lens.

    • @davefrancis2581
      @davefrancis2581 3 роки тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography Very happy I bought a good second one. Very happy with the results didn't have to pay a fortune. Excellent results with macro (plus focus stacking). Not used it for portraits yet (lockdown issues).

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому

      Congrats. I love portraits with the lens to. It really is my favorite lens.

  • @stefanpop6091
    @stefanpop6091 Рік тому +1

    Nice portraits!

  • @njbmods
    @njbmods 4 роки тому +3

    Good video! Love that it was straight to the point and had image examples. Thanks 😊 just ordered mine for $120 EUC! Super hopeful

  • @rajeshkhira5271
    @rajeshkhira5271 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the great info...

  • @akshay3108
    @akshay3108 2 роки тому +1

    Is tokina 100mm macro atx-i FF with EF mount good for canon crop sensor camera?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry i can't help with that. I use Nikon and I do not have that lens. I have heard that Tokina make pretty good stuff. Other than the Tamron lens all my lens are Nikon.

    • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
      @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 Рік тому +1

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography may i ask which nikon body you used with the tamron 90 images in this video?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому +1

      @@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 I use the Nikon D800. I still love this camera!

  • @mahdiabdghani3879
    @mahdiabdghani3879 3 роки тому +1

    nice review....thank you Mike

  • @Jon-mz2wp
    @Jon-mz2wp Рік тому +1

    Just order mine ! Thanks !

  • @GavinThomas
    @GavinThomas 4 роки тому +1

    this lens is on it,s way. great video . thanks !

  • @lionerniec856
    @lionerniec856 11 місяців тому +1

    How do you like Tamron Sp 85mm VC 1.8 when compared to 90mm?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  11 місяців тому

      Sorry I can not answer that as I have never tried the Tamron Sp 85mm VC 1.8

  • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
    @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 Рік тому +1

    i wonder if $60usd is good price for used in excellent condition.
    i had recently obtained sony a7r because i thought it would be good macro camera with the 36mp, full frame, and no anti aliasing filter.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому +1

      Crazy good price.I did a quick look and cheapest used I found was $250 Canadian. I always get wary when the price is that good. If that lens is in excellent condition like you say, I would also run out and buy a lottery ticket to!

    • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
      @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 Рік тому +1

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography i knew it was not a scam because the lens was on a camera body that he had for sale, for demonstration of the camera body. i bought the camera body and then a few days later he put the lens up for sale.
      he keeps all his stuff in top shape and he knows the marketplace prices but he kindly offerred it at that aforementioned price and so i couldn't resist buying it.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому +1

      @@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 That is an awesome deal. I really love that lens. Enjoy your new toy.

    • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
      @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 Рік тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography thankees !

  • @sergiom.llanes2799
    @sergiom.llanes2799 4 роки тому +2

    The fact that this lens gets bigger to focus is something that made your macro work harder? I am trying to decide if this is a point to discard options for a future purchase.
    Great video!

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому

      Thank you. I'm not sure what you mean by "gets bigger focus" The lens is very easy to focus both in manual and automatic mode. The lens works amazing for macro work. If your unsure about the lens see if you can try it before buying it.

  • @ifly65
    @ifly65 2 роки тому +1

    Pro here huge Tamron fan. Just bought this lens for $113.00 it arrives tomorrow! I have many Tamrons including the 300 2.8 white edition from the 90s.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      Nice, some of the older lens still hold their own.

    • @ifly65
      @ifly65 2 роки тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography Wow I am really loving this Tamron. It is the closest to Canon L for an off brand lens Ive ever seen. Your model shots are awesome btw.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  2 роки тому

      @@ifly65 Thank you. Yeah, I love this lens!

  • @Jimmy_Cavallo
    @Jimmy_Cavallo Рік тому

    💥Great video, thank you. I have an 85mm f1.8 and I wonder if it’s worth it for me to consider buying this instead for portrait work.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому

      Thank you. In your case I would probably try to rent/borrow the lens to see for yourself is it better than the lens you have now.

  • @enmirror5545
    @enmirror5545 3 роки тому +2

    I think it`s better choice from among tokina 100 mm and Laowa 100 mm 2:1. I know Laowa have a great sharpness, but only manual sharpness and only 7 aperture blades (for nikon but for canon 9 and sony 13). That`s why I preffer Tamron 90 mm to the nikon. Great presentation Michael 👍

  • @KeikoFXDesigns
    @KeikoFXDesigns Рік тому +2

    I got mine to under 200 bux a few months ago. I never knew this is a portrait lens! The question is.... How will it do for landscapes? I am very curious on how this will stack up against the 10-20mm.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому +1

      The lens will still be very sharp. It will work okay. Not the greatest focal length for landscape, but it is going to be zoomed in compared to a 10-20mm. Honestly kind of hard to compare that great a focal range against each other.

    • @KeikoFXDesigns
      @KeikoFXDesigns Рік тому +1

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography Yup that figures... I really appreciate the reply clears the clutter from being curious lol.

  • @juanramongarmendiaborras680
    @juanramongarmendiaborras680 4 роки тому +1

    I have this lens many years ago and it is the best lens from Tamron.

  • @alessandrofiorini9518
    @alessandrofiorini9518 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks a lot for this video!

  • @nenadtrimeresurus
    @nenadtrimeresurus 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video, can you please tell me what filter do you use with it?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому +1

      Your welcome. I rarely use filters. The lens hood protects the lens. My advice is buy the best filter you can afford, nothing worse then spending $1000s and more on a lens, then putting a $10 piece of crap in front of it!! Sometimes I put this on the lens " Hoya 55mm Fusion Antistatic UV Filter "

    • @nenadtrimeresurus
      @nenadtrimeresurus 4 роки тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography
      Thanks, I don't use filters and don't know much about them. I don't need it to protect the lens primarly, I need it to reduce the reflection that I sometimes get in my photos. I mostly take photos of reptiles and amphibians in jungles at night, and sometimes I get too much unwanted reflection. That happens especially after the rain, so drops of water reflect to much light and I get the white pixels that I don't like :) I was thinking maybe I can fix it with some filter.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому

      First off, Wow nighttime in the jungles. Ah, reflections! What you need to look into is a Polarizing filter. if you get one make sure you understand how it works, some you have to rotate on the lens to get the Polarizing effect. Now, depending on your camera you maybe able in a pinch to use your sunglasses, I have used my Ray bans a few times.

    • @nenadtrimeresurus
      @nenadtrimeresurus 4 роки тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography
      Use my sunglasses?! :) Thanks, I will definitely try with a polarizing filter. :)

  • @petert.2515
    @petert.2515 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the review I decide to get one 👍

  • @mazzoni97
    @mazzoni97 3 роки тому +1

    Why isn't the aperture fixed at 2.8?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому

      That would be a very specific lens, with limited use. I rarely use the lens at F2.8. Having the lens with variable F stops greatly increases the use of the lens for various types of work like, portraits, macro, products, etc.

    • @mazzoni97
      @mazzoni97 3 роки тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography Macro lenses seem to change the aperture as they get closer to things. Thank you for your reply.

  • @MrJuanduenas
    @MrJuanduenas 4 роки тому +1

    May be my next lense I just need to stop dreaming about the blackmagic 6k. .

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому

      See if you can try the lens before you buy it. I know you would not be disappointed. You know the race of the resolution will never end 4k, 6k, now 8k. reminds me of the mega pix race if cameras. I don't want more, I want better :-)

  • @wasemdds
    @wasemdds 4 роки тому +1

    thank you so much

  • @dandanu2526
    @dandanu2526 4 роки тому

    Great video..i'll get one for my Pentax. Thank you!

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you, you won't be disappointed with the lens. It is fantastic.

    • @dandanu2526
      @dandanu2526 4 роки тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography I know,can't wait:) Take care

  • @АлександрЗверев-г6с

    Have you compared the Tampron lens to the Tokina 100mm 2.8 Macro? Are there any significant differences and which lens do you think is better?

  • @acekat7009
    @acekat7009 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Michael,thank you for the great review regarding this lens
    I have one question for you,will this lens autofocus with my old nikon d300(12mp)dslr which has built in motor inside?
    Thank you

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      Your welcome. The lens works fine on my old D80. there are a few versions of this lens out there now. Non-Motorized 2004 model, Motorized version 2008, and the 2000ish newer version. It should not be a problem. If you want to make sure, then pop into a camera store and give the lens a try on your camera body.

    • @acekat7009
      @acekat7009 3 роки тому

      Thanks for your reply Michael,the model is 272e.Do you have any idea if it will work on Nikon d300?

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      That is the lens I have and works fine on my old D80. It should work fine. Here is a link I found on the D300 lens compatibility. www.lensora.com/lenscompatibilitychart.asp?camera=nikon-d300

    • @acekat7009
      @acekat7009 3 роки тому

      Thank you very much Michael,i just checked that link and yes you are right,it works.
      Michael i have found one good deal on this lens for around 220used and has a little fungus in the corner of the glass,do you think a little fungus or small hairline(very minor) scratches in the lens will affect the picture quality?I am a beginner and this is the first lens i am considering buying for macro and portraits.Thanks Michael

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, any scratches, cracks, etc will effect the quality of the image. Mold? that is bad, it will spread internally and you will never get it out. Also more than likely it has had water inside. The lens quality is pretty much more important than the camera body.

  • @welshchap
    @welshchap 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, on your product photos, did you have to focus stack? I have this lens and struggle to get enough of the object in focus as the lens has such a shallow depth of field.

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому

      Pretty much shot at F22, shot a little further back to get more in focus, crop closer in post. I do focus stack now and then, but don't believe I did on any of these. The lens has the same depth of field as any other lens. Sorry if you know this, but will tell you in case you don't. Depth of field is controlled by your F stop and the distance the lens is to the subject.

    • @welshchap
      @welshchap 4 роки тому +1

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography thank you, Michael

  • @UnauthorizedCreations
    @UnauthorizedCreations 2 роки тому +1

    I just purchased this lens so I could use it for up close shots of my cooking content. I want my watchers to see the graining in a clove of garlic.

  • @Shadowgae
    @Shadowgae 3 роки тому +1

    Its a good lens but have you compared it to the newer Tamron 90mm models , BTW I think Tamron should give you one to review :-)

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому

      No i have not. I would assume it be better, if even slightly. I totally agree Tamron should lend me one to review.

  • @jeewarathne784
    @jeewarathne784 4 роки тому

    Is this compatible for nikon D850??give good results???
    Thank you

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  4 роки тому

      The D800 and the D850 both have Nikon F mount, so yes it should fit. The quality of this lens is outstanding in my opinion.

  • @nicedward7544
    @nicedward7544 3 роки тому +2

    I've had this lens for probably 10 years. It has seen a ton of abuse and still keeps kicking out tack sharp images. My only gripe is i wish it was a little faster at least f2 would be nice for portraits. I'm a snob when it comes to glass i guess. For the price you can't really beat it though

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  3 роки тому +1

      Haha, I hear yeah, mine has taken a kicking and keeps on ticking. Love the lens, but yes totally agree faster would be nice.

  • @lannyrubindds7071
    @lannyrubindds7071 2 роки тому +1

    just ordered this lens for my dental practice. I will be taking full face as well as smile shots. Hopefully I will be just as happy as you are with this lens.
    Can't wait to try it out.
    Any tips on settings you might have for portraits? Thanks Lanny

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  2 роки тому

      I think you will be very happy. I was talking to my dentist about images. For tips, lighting will be an issue for in mouth images. If the patient is willing, then tripod the camera, get some light shining into the mouth. You might wanted to invest into a macro ring light for in mouth stuff. the light fits around your lens. example www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/ring-camera-light-macro-flash/ci/649
      For portraits (guess you mean your patients) make sure your background is simple, plain wall works well. Fill the frame like head and shoulders. I tend to use about f8 and lower, with you want a blurry background then like F2.8 Also get some nice soft light.
      Best of luck.

  • @trevornoone1884
    @trevornoone1884 4 роки тому

    Great review,thank you.

  • @hiltyd
    @hiltyd 5 років тому +1

    I see a 72 and a 272 version of this lens. Which one is the one in this video?

  • @forfuture366
    @forfuture366 Рік тому

    The video bitrate is very slow so that it's blur

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому

      I'm not sure what you mean?

    • @forfuture366
      @forfuture366 Рік тому

      @@MichaelCGrayPhotography I'm watching at 1080p but it's very blur

    • @MichaelCGrayPhotography
      @MichaelCGrayPhotography  Рік тому

      @@forfuture366 it must be a UA-cam issue as the video quality is fine. Maybe try on another device out of curiosity?