How to be a Rude Hiker
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- In my 30 years of backpacking, I’ve met all kinds of hikers. Hands down, the most obnoxious and annoying is “the Rude Hiker.” In this video, I give tips on how to annoy your fellow voyagers and be a Rude Hiker (tongue-in-cheek). 😉
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That’s the truth. So true. 😁
Great video! I'll add one: I LOVE LOVE LOVE dogs that take their humans for a hike....but it's so rude for doggos to leave their poop right on the trail! To all you wonderful hiking dogs out there: Do better! Train your person to clean up after you.... 🐾💩
Amen! 😁
Poop bags don’t take up much room and keeps the area looking nicer.
As for me, if there is a sign that says, "No dogs on trail", how about not bringing your dog on trail?
@@markusschaffer9712 But if you are not going to pack the bag out or deposit it in an appropriate container . . .then please don't bother with the bag.
@@jimperkins9661 then take along a trowel. Let your dog do its brown business,then use the trowel to dig a hole. Scoop poop into the hole,then cover the poop with the dirt you removed. All sorts of ways to deal with it.
So much truth here. Biggest pet peeve is leaving trash all over the place or having a campsite that attracts wildlife for a food related reason.
Thanks. Again…in honor, preferring one another. 😁
@@TheHikingRev thinking of others and their safety never goes out of fashion.
Hey Rev. Great video. No preaching but presenting the info in a way that makes people smile, maybe, but also in a manner that makes people think. Hope all is well with you and your family. Blessings for all of you. Take care. Stay safe. See you next video.
Thanks Judith. You’re always very kind. 😁
I hope I run into you on the trail so you can sign my backpack😅. Thank you for the trail courtesy tips 😊.
Make sure and pack a Sharpie. 😂
😂😂😂You’re welcome.
Great video Rev! One thing that drives me crazy are the pet owners to do clean up after their dogs but then leave the plastic baggie of dog poo on the side of the trail. I just don't understand it!
Amen! I hike local trails almost daily and this is so so common. Often, when I come back to the trail the next day, the poop bag is still there. Really bugs me
Me either. Maybe they think that “someone else” might pick it up. But I’ve never met “someone else.” 😁
Some people think the world revolves around them and no one else exists.
Ain’t that the truth. They’re called narcissists…”an extremely self-centered person who has an exaggerated sense of self-importance.” (Merriam-Webster)
“You're so vain. You probably think this song is about you.” - Carly Simon
Here is a combo I had. Getting toward the end of the hiking day, and I had a goal that I needed to reach. I had the downhill so I stepped off the (narrow) trail, to let the uphill guys keep their momentum. But they stopped. In the middle of the trail so I could not pass unless I pushed them out of the way. So one man began to talk to me about an older hiker that needed someone to look out for him. I told him that I would. He droned on and I found an opening (both in the trail and in the conversation). I bid them happy trails and headed down the trail. After I got more than 30 yards downhill, trying to make up the time, and the guy yelled at me. "HEY! Lookout for that old hiker."
Later I saw who was much older than we were. I greeted him and he was fine. He was relaxed and hiking his own hike. He looked in better shape than either me or the guy who yelled at me.
I think the first guy just liked messing with me. There are people like that. Narcissists, I think they call it.
Rev, we'd get on fine on trail.
That is so true. 😁
Hard truths there!
And I’m so happy that you are taking the time to help educate people!
You just have a great way of storytelling that’s so enjoyable, easy-going, and non-offensive!
And the verse, honor others above yourselves, is definitely a good reminder!
Sadly, these aren't hard truths. These are just normal being a decent human being. Not rocket science, we've just forgotten that we all live on this ball of dirt with everyone else and they are entitled to the same things you are...Great video here!!!
Thanks Gabriele. 😁
Thankfully I avoid most of this by going on solo trips during the week.
The 'I am the Hiking Rev' scene is awesome. Nice touch looking away. I'm going to use that.
One thing that bugs me is off leash dogs with the owner no where in sight.
What do you think….Academy Award? 🏆
Super video, Rev! Good content! Speak volumes!
Thanks Sherrie. 😁
I've met my share of rude hikers in the past. The worst types are the ones that leave toilet paper all over the trail, give you the wrong directions on purpose, the ones that destroy or misplace trail signs, or the ones who camp in the middle of the trail. I've also seen a hiker who made his dog carry a 12 pack of beer up a steep trail in Yosemite on a hot day..
Whoa….thats pretty rude. 😁
Attended parochial schools from elementary to high school and one of the prevailing tenets regardless of who it came from, being a priest while was an altar boy to a parish catechist was: "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all". I fail to see how someone not replying to me is rude. I defer to Paul in Romans 12:15-16. Walk a mile in their shoes. Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. Stay blessed in your travels, Rev.
It is certainly nicer to say "hi" back (or even wave) than to ignore the person entirely.
I'm no expert, but it sounds like those verses are about supporting others through emotions and perhaps not necessarily about what our friend is talking about here. It sounds like he was excited to have connection with a fellow human and was disappointed they couldn't respond kindly :)
@@peterteeter To be alone by oneself is a choice which deserves as much respect as any other possible scenario. Steeped in introspective thought, even when on the move, can most assuredly trump any acknowledgement a passerby on the trail might be....... expecting. I see a disconnect between what one construes as rude and expectation. I think our society is all about judgment, which in and of itself is rude and disrespectful particularly when not privy to any mitigating circumstances. Perhaps a hiker is on a section hike lamenting the loss of a loved one, or griefstricken for any number of plausible reasons. It happens to the nicest, kindest of people among us. We are tested on a daily basis and life is difficult sometimes, which renders us detached, or perhaps aloof? - Okay... but rude? I can be of another opinion while remaining respectful.
I'm kind of with you on this. I always say hello to people, but I say it in a way where it's pretty clear I'm not demanding a response. 99/100 return my friendly greeting, but I don't know what the 100th person might be dealing with and I don't spend my energy getting mad over it.
I can’t tell you how much a loved this! As an avid hiker in the PNW I’ve watched the trails get busier and busier with outdoor enthusiasts. If we can all remember some basic hiker etiquette and give a little grace it will be a much better experience for everyone.
Happy Hiking!
Thanks. That is the truth.😁
Brilliant thanks Rev can I add another Rude one Using Headlamps on the brightest setting at campsites they are like lighthouse signal lights. 💡
Your comment is good however, I did this then saw one night another hiker with his red head lamp on. I remembered my headlamp could do that and always did after. He never said anything to me.
Yes. I forgot that one. 😁
Great words of wisdom, Rev. Blessings on your trek theoigh Ireland!
Thanks Ruth. I am enjoying the Ireland sunshine as we speak.🇨🇮😁
Good ride points, Rev! Sadly, common sense ain't all that common and manners isn't far behind.
Man, I wish I had thought of that before I put out my video.😁
I've watched sooooo many backpacking videos. This is a unique, much needed video in the hiking community!! Lol
Thanks, Dan. I hope you enjoyed it.😁
Be mindful, considerate and humble in everything you do.
👍😁
Hey Rev, agree with all you said. When I go hiking on our local trail, I always make a point of waving or saying hello, I often get some suprised looks, like " How dare you speak to me!" Unfortunately it seems to be a sign of the times. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to just acknowledge someone.
So true. 😁
I do a lot of canyon hikes and above tree-line hikes. It is best practice to poop in a wag-bag and pack it out. There is NOTHING that irks me more than to see a trail lined with little blue and green bags of human poop tucked into rocks and cracks. In my opinion, that is worse than just pooping on the trail as it is never going to go away until someone packs out the poop bag.
At the camp site - having to listen to someone's phone constantly alert them about the arrival of every email, message, and facebook post is maddening. It's like trying to sleep in a Chucky Cheese or video arcade. beep, beep, ding, thwap, chaching,...... And on top of that, is when they have the sound turned on for every letter they press when responding to all those messages.
Well, Rev - I think my blood pressure is rising after thinking about all this.😁 I need to go take a hike to chill out. 🥾
Sorry. I didn’t mean to get your blood pressure up. 😂 But the things you stated are so true. I wish we all would take time and think about other hikers and their enjoyment.😁
Right on the ball Rev. By far the worst is the hunting group that arrives late by 4 x 4 and gets loaded and loud and downright dangerous letting off firearms indiscriminately necessitating everyone else to vacate the shelter/camp in the wee small hours.
Yeah. I’d say that was pretty rude.😁
Great tips and suggestions Rev! I will put them into practice starting on tomorrow's hike. Have an awful day! 🤣😂
Thanks. Happy hiking. 😁
Thank you Rev! All great advise that we all need reminded of. Blessings!
You’re welcome. 😁
Excellent, Rev. Thanks!
You’re quite welcome. 😁
I agree with all of these, except for the mandatory greeting. There are many reasons I may not greet on the trail. 1) The trail is so busy with hundreds passing, so my voice gets sore. As an introvert, it's actually exhausting to greet so many times hour after hour.
2) I go hiking to get away from people, and to mindfully observe nature. I prefer to listen to the birds and the wind, than human chatter.
3) Especially while ascending, I'm working on rhythmic nasal breathing. Using my voice isn't always possible if I'm out of breath. If I'm exhausted, I'm trying to conserve as much energy as possible. As an introvert, too much social interaction really does exhaust me. 🙏
Thanks. 😁
Your voice gets sore? Lmao
Hiking Rev - I just stumbled across your channel and have found it to be as lovely and lighthearted as any other on YT. Prefer the other person is great lesson to internalize. I wish you all the best in your endeavors to be a rude hiker!
Thanks. I think. 🤔
@@TheHikingRev haha I was having some fun, great channel you have here!
One more: no matter what the law or common sense, do not under any circumstances leash your dog. Your furry child is special and can't be leashed. And if anybody looks askance at you for not controlling your fur baby, give them a piece of your mind. For bonus points, don't pick up your pet's poop either.
😂😂😂
Awesome video Rev
Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed it. 😁
Thanks Rev! See you down the trail.
You’re welcome. Sounds good. 🏃➡️
Ha ha ho ho hee hee ha ha! This was great!! I’m sorry to say I saw myself in at least one of these. Great lessons for us. Thanks Rev!!
We ALL can do better. 😁
Having your friendly lovable dog run up to fellow hikers who don't know your dog, nor its temperament.
Yep. That can be pretty awkward.😁
Lovely, mighty Rev
“We’re not worthy.” 😂
Well done brother! Rick
Hey Rick. Thank you very much.😁
That is so true, Rev. The majority of people I've met on yrail have been noce and polite. Practicing trail educate makes it more enjoyable on trail. Thank you for sharing this.
You’re welcome. Thankfully “Rude Hikers” are in the minority. 😁
What a funny video! All so true.
That passing someone by and they don’t say hi when you're out in the middle of nowhere is crazy to me too.
In the northeast we have Application Mountain Club (AMC) huts off the AT. Excellent locations and crew (croo). Just wished they’d adopt sections for snorers, then we’d all get some sleep.
Great to know you'll sign my backpack if I run into you one day 😊 Looking forward to that.
Generally I agree, but here's another thought: I tend to be an introvert, and I get sort of meditative and in my own head when I'm hiking; sort of lost in my own thoughts. Even so, if for some reason I'm not saying "Hello!" I will usually at least try to do a head nod, a hand wave, or an informal salute.
😂😂😂That’s why I always bring a fresh pair of earplugs. 😁
That’s great. Yes. Just acknowledge someone else’s existence. 😁
Well done, Rev, and funny, too.
Thanks. 😂
Love your videos Rev. Thanks for sharing. Any tips for solving back problems due to carrying backpacks? I think I need to develop a stronger core?
Hey Stephanie. That’s a hard one. Someone asked me that same question which I responded to it in a “question-and-answer” video that I did. I’ll leave the link here.
ua-cam.com/video/HHHs2BQsgyw/v-deo.htmlsi=b14g0_yT8JMzCa1_
YOU NAILED IT!
Thanks. 🔨😁
Unleashed dogs on trails marked for pets on leash only is my pet peeve. The dogs aren't the problem, but the owners are. Come on people!
So true. 😁
Loved it rev! Man I blew it, I could of had my pack signed by you when we hiked together! Dang it!
😂You have a black backpack.😁
Hey thanks again my brother love it
You’re welcome Bill. 😁
Here's a couple of things I witnessed on my AT hike. Let your dog play in the watersource upstream from where you're collecting your water, and making way too much oatmeal and then scraping the excess on the rocks of the firepit. I tried to give that one the trail name "Sir Leaves Alot," but he didn't stick around long enough for it to take.
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing your tips on how To be a Rude hiker 😅. All the best to you. Stay safe out there. 😊
Thanks, Ronald.😁
New subscriber here! Fantastic video, sir! 😃😄👊
Thanks. And thanks for the sub. 😁
There is one no no that you and many, many others speak of that I do, but hear me out. I will, if solo backpacking in a remote area, no one around, listen to an audiobook or podcast without headphones. This gives me peace of mind and I feel the noise, not loud, helps alert wildlife that I am around. There have been a couple of occasions where I surprisingly met folks on trail and would quickly pause, and once got a very rude comment even after I profusely apologized, but I am not going to quit doing that in remote areas where it makes me feel safer in case I may disturb a random hiker for a second before I turn it off.
Hey Kristy. I do the same only if I don’t see other people. 😁
AMEN
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Right about the loud and obnoxious. If I wanted to hear loud conversation, yelling etc. I’d stay in the city and go to a sports bar or one of those bottomless mimosa brunches.
😂😂😂So true.
Bravo! Good advice…and ‘Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!’
Thanks Mary…and so true. 😁
"I am the Hiking Rev..." That make me cackle! :D
Academy Award? 😁
Good advice as usual Rev
Thanks. 😁
I have a local mountain I hike/climb about 3-4 times per week... it's a popular place and there are smokers.
Whoa! 😁
Walking with you on this one ... mine is having to pick up cigarette butts! Best to you Rev!
How wuuude! 😁😂
God bless! keep on keeping on.
Thanks. I’ll try. 😁
Amen!🙌
Thanks. 😁
I’m from a small state that now gets hammered with hikers from bigger places seeking our wilderness areas. I think that hikers that don’t say hello literally don’t know how to act outside of their gigaplex where no one talks to each other unless it’s on a social media app. I don’t get mad at them, I feel sorry for them.
Not everyone likes to talk to people.
So true. 😁
This is all great stuff! Made a list so I don't forget any of them. Can't wait to try out all these rude techniques next time I'm on the trail.
Instead of only ignoring people when they say hello, do you think it's more rude to throw up the middle finger while walking by not looking at them? Trying to achieve the ultimate trail rudeness badge.
😂😂😂
Just don’t tell em, “”The Rev” told me to give this to you.” 😂
lol!! Just push people out of the way and off the trail. 😅😅
😂😂😂Then you don’t have to speak to them. 😂
Rudest hiker ever lol, Always treat people the way you want to be treated. Thank you for another great video
You’re welcome. That’s the truth. 😁
Charlie Munger says always invert. Good job!
Thanks Tracy. 😁
What type of Camera do you use on your Back Packing Trips? Thank in advance.
I use my Apple iPhone 14 Pro to shoot and edit videos.😁
Hello Mr.Hiking Rev❤
😂😂😂
New sub. I love the truth…✌️
Thanks. 😁
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Thank you Linda. 😁
All true sir. I gave up thru hiking and avoid national parks as well as their camp sites for all of these stated reasons. This is after 14,000+ miles of hiking... Thanks for making these rude issues a known fact. Happy Trails my friends.
Thanks Christopher. 👍
This is great!!😃👍🏼.
After the pandemic started and during the pandemic, my standards for trail behavior lowered dramatically!! I don’t mind mountain bikers or horseback folk or ATV people (4 wheelers and snow machines) as long as they don’t leave a plastic bag on the side of the trail that takes 3000 years to break down, full of fresh hot dog s&@$!!!
Thanks. 😁
That's good food for thought. I'm getting into hiking again in retirement. You don't suppose that guy was deaf? : )
Maybe he just didn’t want to talk.
Possibly. 😁
So your talking about this whole generation of yuppies.😅Great video there are no pro hikers or superstars. Your definitely right the word of God being left out is the problem now
Truth. 😁
As a local to the a.t. my whole life, a huge percentage of thru hikers are just getting more and more rude as the years go by. Sad.
When you see a hiker getting some water from the stream, be sure to wash your feet just upstream from them.
Wow. That’s a good one. By the way, that happened to me when I was hiking in the Desolation Wilderness.😡
I did meet you on the PCT Section J in Washington. And you were not rude at all.
I try not to be. (Unless you catch me on a bad day.) 😂
I laughed at this!! Lol I remember once hiking early in the morning with my Grandpa in Phoenix. As we were hiking down a young woman was hiking up. My grandpa said, "good morning how are you today?" He was met with absolute silence! When we were out of ear shot he said to me, "East Coast". Lol This was back in the early 1990's when people were really starting to move in!! Lol NOT that east coast people are always rude. I never forgot that! Lol
That’s good! 😂
That's a good one. I get quite annoyed when people are not greeting or greeting back on trails. However, I always try to release terrible chemical warfare farts in crowded bedrooms in mountain huts. My only concern then is that nobody lights a match.
How wuuude! 😂
The John Manure Trail.
😂😂😂
I am 80 yrs. Young and just started walking preparing for longer hikes any suggestions to getting my trail legs.Thank you👍
The older you get the more you’re going to have to start off slow and then build up.😁
Many assumptions made about expecting a greeting or acknowledgement in return. Some may not notice because they are absorbed in what they are doing and didn't notice you. Some may be trying to get away from people and may consider it rude that you interrupt their peace and quiet. Some may not be able to even hear your greeting for one reason or another, whether it be from headphones or a physical impairment. When I go out I go out to be alone and don't care that you're impression of me is rude if I happen to not return your greeting or salutation.
Thanks. 😁
It served Jacob well to be offered the speckled/spotted sheep of Laban's flock. He, actually, prospered by Laban's desire to give him the worst of the flock. Mixed blessings come from accepting a less than choice 'spot'. Thank you for the bible reference of in honor of preferring one another.
That’s a great Biblical reference. 😁
It’s ok to be spiritual in your videos. God’s creation is so wonderful. Thanks Rev
Yes it is. Thanks. 😁
I disagree with the uphill rule. Downhill you have momentum and uphill you probably need to stop and catch your breath. I always let downhill hikers pass me. One exception is on a steep trail with loose rocks that might be dislodged and strike the uphill hiker. The rudest hikers (on the AT) are those who set up a tent in the middle of the shelter on a rainy day and take up all the space.
Thanks. 😁
Well done very entertaining ... as always. I love trail people and talking with them and have to say 95% lack one iota of rudeness as for the other 5% they are truly the peasants on the trail.
So true. 😁
I’m considerate enough to fart in fellow hikers faces while they sleep
Ok. 🤷
Another person that loves loves dogs but was in a shelter one evening and the dog owner was letting their dog run all over our sleep systems, needless to say I packed up and moved down the trail a ways to tent camp smh
So true. 😁
"Unasked for advice is . . . just criticism."
But as for me, if you are coming down and I am going up . . . I'll wait for you. Every time. And HYOH.
Thanks, Jim.😁
Very well said !
However you now made me realize just how RUDE my dogs are ! 😂 lol
We keep them well under controll & leashed as we know lots are not dog people, but hey there flatulence problem well what can I say sorry 😂😂
The dog always gets the blame. 😂
Another rude way to pass someone that is going the same direction you are, is to announce "passing on your right or passing on your left." Because, they maybe hard of hearing or listening to head phones.
How is that rude? How else am I supposed to pass? Some would say that people that aren't aware of their surrounding and taking up the whole trail are the rude ones.
Having both earphones in while you’re hiking is dangerous. (walking up on rattlesnakes, etc) 😁
I am a woman and hike alone. I sometimes feel apprehensive about saying hello to single men that I cross paths with on a trail. Just a tad scary.
Hey Beverly. Ask them if they’re married or single then speak to them according. 😂
Interestingly out of character for you. Good, as usual, but out of character. :>)
Sometimes you just gotta change things up a bit. 😁
People ignore me saying hi everywhere not jut on a trail.
That’s OK Curtis. Just keep doing the right thing. Some people are just plain rude. 😁
People who don't bury human waste a toilet paper are the worst.
Ewwwww! 😂
When I section hike, I take trash bags for the sole purpose of picking up other peoples ‘Trash’ and packing it out.
I do the same. 😁
I think everyone should wear their political choice for prez on their caps.That way you will know who to avoid.
😂😂😂
Dear sir, Not everyone feels compelled to participate in small talk. Some people are operating in a world of their own and won’t so much as look at their fellow man. Don’t whine bc they don’t wave. (See yellowledbetter by Pearl Jam)
Overjoyed, loud, drunks and those who habitually lie and steal are the rudest of all.
It’s kind of silly and rude of you to expect everyone on trail to meet your presumptuous greeting standards. A person who smiles to your face as he robs you blind or assassinates your character behind your back is as dangerous as the devil himself.
I don’t smile much, never have, without being stimulated by intoxicants, but I’m happy for you if you are a genuinely happy human being.
(Metaphorically) Pat your parents on the back for raising you right and keeping you safe then pat yourself on the back.
Okay, we’re good to go Rev!
Be well,
-a person with no tolerance for bs.
👍😁(smile)
How woooude.
😂😂😂
Oatmeal did not ask for any of these advices...so she will not fallow any of it...with resentment. She also thanks you for keeping out of control psycho anarchist Dogs void of the leash out of this topic. Stay good.
It seems to be a sore subject among many.😁
Love the Biden sunglasses.
Ray Ban…Biden edition! 😁
Biden sunglasses? Those have been around since 1936 and were popular during WW2 and since.
Yep..but they are Biden now.
The people you're describing have no business in the woods beyond winding up missing there. Those people belong in cities, where they can do as they please
Yeah…like rude drivers driving slow in the left hand lane and not moving over. 😡
is there a possibility that he was deaf?
Possibly. 😁
But, I don't wanna be a rude hiker.
😂😂😂
Hmmm. I am five minutes into the video. I stopped. I read maybe 10 comments.
The rude are usually rued And they don't realize either.
Then there are those who mount their soapbox and espouse rudimentary suggestions coupled with their judgment of others.
If I'm hiking, do I have to be verbal when I greet someone? Can I wave?
If someone's hiking slower than me and I want to pass them and they don't notice, do I seethe? Or do I say the same thing when I am walking anywhere and someone is in my path, " excuse me please". If they apologize as people are want to do in the supermarket aisles, I point Out they don't need to apologize for walking, then thank them, and keep moving.
Dog poop. I say to everyone with a dog,, "What a nice dog that is with you. I like seeing dogs on the trail. I just don't believe some people when they don't clean their feces out of the path." If they are defensive, tell them you weren't Saying that they did not clean up after the dog with them. This one's a tad passive aggressive but it does get the word out to many dog people. Eventually it will reach the inconsiderate ones. The poop in the video doesn't look like dog poop though.
Loud music. " hey that's Barry Manilow isn't it? My mom likes to crank him up too. My dad doesn't like it. Especially when he is outside. ".
Belching/farting. Sometimes they just can't be stifled. As a contest is usually done by males under the age Of 20. Many Kids are really stupid. I did not participate in body noise contests, except for the hand under the opposite armpit. I did a host of other things that were really stupid.
Say something to them if you like! Why not? You expect others to speak to you. Cuts both ways
Thanks for your comments. The reason most people watch UA-cam videos is to get a different perspective on the way to do things. It’s like eating at a cafeteria. Nobody forced you to go in. If you don’t like the food that’s in front of you just move on. Don’t spit in it. Don’t criticize it. Don’t disagree with it. Just move on. Perhaps you may find out that you really do like cream spinach. But you’ll never know until you try it.
I hate you only watched five minutes. The best was yet to come. By the way, I did not say to verbally respond. I just said you need to respond. (I’ll get off my soapbox now.) 😁
I watched the rest later. It was consistent with the first five minutes, And your response now.
I look on life as a trail. Everything everyone is doing, every moment of the day is part of the trail leading to the next plane of existence.
Every word, billboard, T-shirt, bumper sticker, UA-cam video is just like a person saying it to you. Hence If something is unclear I ask. If something smells like dung on The trail, I point it out, oft times Removing it.
Now I have never seen the data that tells me what "most people" are doing on UA-cam. I do know on my trail I do my best to help others. When I see some loud talking, dung slinging, Holier than thou, problem Complainer with no solutions offered. I point that out. We are never too old to learn. There was a time I was too stubborn and too full of myself to learn. But we are all born knowing That the solution is treating others kindly. It certainly is not mocking their Socially inept behavior without trying to help them
nothing to do with hiking. most people are rude all the time everywhere
Yeah. I know. But maybe someone will listen and heed.😁
The person could’ve been deaf,
Possibly.😁