STOP WORRYING ABOUT SQUAT BAR PATH 🤡
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Funny knowing Matt used to be the very angry emotional lifter in his teens and now he calmly lifts 700lbs as if he’s thinking of what to make for dinner.
Why would anyone get emotional lifting? 😂
@@anonperson3972 emotions can hype you up and can lead to you lifting more
Long form Vena video premieres are goated
Agree
Yuh
Lmao at 4 mins being long form
@@miguellorenzosingian1562 he makes daily shorts, he talks fast, packs in a lot into those 4.
@@miguellorenzosingian1562Nowadays, many people have a very short attention span. Matt has shown that his UA-cam shorts get considerably more views.
Hey, Matt I got an idea for a new product. You introduced the squat plug right? Well, let me show you the bench clamps! These clamps go on your nips while you're benching and ARE statistically proven to increase strength output by 11%. Side effects include and are not limited to, moaning, sudden stiffs and more. (Women's experience may differ)
Then after a bench sesh you can attach a Marc pro to your clamps. You get increase strength and quick recovery after.
This info applies ESPECIALLY to people who;
1) aren't that strong yet and aren't lifting multiple times bodyweight on squat - therefore their bodyweight shifting behind the bar has a greater proportional effect on COM
2) Hinge-y lowbar squatters who fold over a lot during squats - bodyweight is shifted further behind the bar compared to an upright squatter
I'd wager either/both of these factors would lead to someone having the bar closer to being over the toes than midfoot WITHOUT it being a mistake or form issue
Definitely
I have to lean very forward because having long femurs means that my butt will go way back just naturally so that I have to bring counterweight to the "front" by leaning more forward in order to stay in the true center of mass. Otherwise I can't hit depth because I get pulled backwards loosing stability.
Have you measured your femurs?
Also when you lift very heavy for a max you may have an extra lean on the ascent if you misadjust on the descent. Your back isn't made of paper so you will probably be fine but it will waste energy. The bar path being vertical is stupid because your body moves so the centre of mass isn't constant anyway. Whatever position you feel the most comfortable with is the right one.
So at this point I have thrown pretty much everything I have learnt about lifting and form since 2018 out of the window and just lift how it feels right.
one of your best informative video from you so far. I've only seen 2 to 3 people talking about this.
Every time Matt posts a video I learn something new. This was great!
Thank you! Finally something I didn't know that I also wrestle with. Explains a lot.
above average long format video. This was awesome, Matt!
One of your best videos. Since I watched this my squat has felt much better
This. Obsessing over a very vertical bar path and bar placing is a waste of time. Made good progress when I placed the bar where my body alllows while keeping everything tight, as well as allowing my hips/knees bend naturally and often to full rom when squatting.
It is not effecient, that's all. Force applied against force of gravity is the most effecient. Straight vertical line is the shortest distance between point A and point B. That's why you should squat with a vertical bar path.
But surely, you won't achieve this with a light weights.
All you gotta worry about is being balanced over the middle of your foot, and the heavier the bar - the more vertical it's bar path will be
Thank you, Matt.
I enjoy you debunking lifting myths!
Another good day because gyat vena posted a long video
Matt Vena 3 min+ vid format is legit
Whatever position you feel most comfortable with and helps you move the weight best is the right one. The vertical bar path propaganda is idiotic anyway if you think for a second because with how your body moves there is no way to keep the centre of mass balanced over mid foot without adjusting the position of the bar horizontally on the descent and ascent.
That's some heavy lifts!
Doesnt this mean that the heavier the weight of the squat the closer the center of mass will be to the barbell though?
Yes
@@mattvena226 So at what ratio of bodyweight to barbell weight does this become a pointless distinction to make lol?
I weigh 190lbs. I always feel like my bar path is a mess when I warmup with 135. As soon as I get around 225 the squat starts to feel so much more natural.
@@Laocoon283 Never. Bar path becomes a better indicator the heavier you lift (compated to bw), but what matters will always be mid-foot pressure.
2:09 of course if you grab the rack you don't need ankle mobility, because when people squat their knees go behind toes and stretch ankles.
Why do you use the same deadlift video for every short and youtube video ive seen from you
Whats your height and weight
Using it to reference my form if close
Considering changing to a wide stance deadlift to protect lower back issues i have traditional stance You look solid on those deadlifts.
Iirc matt is like 180cm. Tho height would be irrelevant if the proportion of your body parts isnt the same.
He also weights under 105kg btw
what would you say is the main reason people plateau in strength gain?
Not eating enough and improper programming.
Matt Vena Ws
Help. I’m bow-legged, flat-footed, and dumb
Even then, smith machines squats feel weird as fuck.
The summary of this video is "use a squat plug and your squat will fix itself"
Just thought about this yesterday during squats, sometimes it just feels like I'm doing " Bar Pathing " instead of doing the exercise itself...
Nice tips and video, cheers
Your bodyweight is negligible when you squat any reasonable weight.
Don’t squat like lebron 😂 💯
Matt da 🐐 no 🧢
Matt please become world champion pleaseee
A powerlifting squat/goodmorning form still looks like shit compared to an atg more vertical squat.
You squat 2 plates and brag about it
@@whiteou7.didnt mean to hurt your feeling bud
you missed the point
Honestly, powerlifting technique is powerlifting technique. You can't compare it with bodybuilding technique. Both are having their own benefits according to what you are working on currently. Just as how I hate powerlifters giving bodybuilders advice on building muscle, I hate bodybuilders giving powerlifters advice on powerlifting.
@@ellisfrancisfarros3935 aesthetically speaking, form looks like horrendous half reps imo.
Hurry
So just worry about balance more than bar path then?
yes
@@jelania ok 👍🏼
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Bro don’t premier a video you got me edging
the 12 hour head start is crazy
You really need to speak slower because my brain is absolutely fried after 2 minutes
**insert random comment to spark outrage**
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I'm struggling to understand what this video is about when your bar path is vertical and basically all of the examples. It won't be perfect but the unbalanced examples showed the hips rising faster than the shoulders, causing the good morning like movement pattern. It's very easy to see the bar have to move backwards when you get stuck compared to subtle movements in the proper examples.
In the examples where you're leaning over more, your torso is staying at the same angle relative to the ground the entire time.
This video feels like it told us why vertical path is essential for power production
Watch the video again but on 0.75x speed. Perhaps he was just speaking too fast for you
the theme of this video is about staying balanced over midfoot to provide best force production. The bar path is brought up simply because people tend to correlate it with staying balanced, which is not true since the more you bend over, the more the bar would travel forward in order to counterbalance with your hips. Matt has a more vertical bar path because he doesn't bend over much.
And yes it's hard to see where he misgrooved since he is an elite lifter having 320kg on his back.
LONG VIDEO
Low bar is aids lol
can you kiss me matt?
It doesn't make sense to say that it's a waste of time, a weightlifter needs to descend vertically, if it's not vertical he will simply lose his balance... and a weightlifter has more impressive squats than standard powerlifters
I love how this video isn't even available and people already have string opinions 😂
My best squat is not a strict vertical path. It's actually starting forward a bit off center, and as I break and start the descent,the bar moves back and to the center balance point. Once i reach that point then I go straight down. It gives me some more momentum that I save into my hips as I reach back while going down and allows me a more powerful explosion from the bottom. It's actually like incorporating a sway from front to back that stops when I reach that position of balance. It's all one smooth move.
Just objectively not true, I'll believe that weightlifters are better squatters when I see one squat 478 kg +
m.ua-cam.com/video/WK7m6I5m6gY/v-deo.html&pp=ygUKQnJvemtub3dzIA%3D%3D 800 lbs ATG Squat world record
is the impressive weightlifter squat in the room with us rn?
I’ve found it annoying that you have so many quizzes on different lifts that all link to the same few videos so I’ve unsubscribed for now.
powerlifters have weak quads
You have a weak squat plug
If powerlifters have to move heavier weight, they will focus on building muscle to make it stronger. So no. Unless you are squatting a plate or two, you won't have weak quads because you will focus on building muscle as well to grow stronger.