I work as an interpretor in the same time period as she does (in canada though) and I can vouch for the fact that your body adjusts itself much better temperature wise than you would think. The clothes are uncomfortable for the first few days but that's it! After a while you actually start feeling uncomfortable not having a stay (or corset) on during the work day.. And sometimes we actually start feeling cold after we change out into modern clothing at the end of the day because of being so used to our interpretor uniforms
Cooper Vint the same thing! Most women in the 18th century did not “tight lace,” meaning they did not try to make their waists extremely tiny, as is so often portrayed. Some women did, of course, however that was usually limited to a small portion of the aristocracy. The average working woman would have worn the stays as shown in this video, which aren’t uncomfortable! Their main purpose, as I stated, was NOT to decrease the waist, but rather to support the bust and provide structure for the exterior garments. In essence, it is and 18th century bra!
@@superduper.cooper girls would just wear smaller versions of their mother's clothes, usually short gown and skirts but without a stay until they were ready for one. I'm not too sure about boys but it would be very simple and handmade. This video is actually a good example of the average woman's wear. This is a working woman, the higher up in class you go the more the fashion changes to gowns, and fabrics can show your social standing as well.
@@rcamels3042 And an 18th century back support. I found that I was less tired working at the Renaissance Festival all day on my feet if I wore my stays or "pair of bodies" as they were called then. I worked for a clothier and we wore her products but I'd really like to try to make more period bodies and outer-ware for the earlier 16th century.
@@MyBigComfyCouch Children wore dresses and skirts from infancy until the boys were "breeched" or reliably toilet trained. Once a boy didn't need to get quick access to a potty, then he could be allowed to wear breeches or "slops" like a man. Kid's clothing had a lot of pleats, tucks, long hems, wide seams, drawstrings and lacings so that it could be let out and let down as the child grew. Outgrown clothing was put away and passed on to younger children. Worn-out adult clothing would often be pulled apart and made over into children's clothing. Mom's old skirt could be turned into a kid's outfit. Dad's worn-out shirt could be cut down into aprons for the little girls. Fabric from worn clothing was set aside to be pieced into something else down the line until it was turned into rags, which were then used to make rag rugs or for cleaning, polishing or for stuffing or padding. Nothing was wasted this far out on the frontier.
Thanks so much! We homeschool and our activity books had paper dolls to show how people in colonial times dress, but I wanted my children to have a better understanding. You explained the process so well and we're so grateful how easy it is to get dressed in modern times
@Sarah Hamilfan Thank you. That was bugging me! I try not to be petty but DANG people need to read or something! Today I saw Illinois spelled :Illinoise"....and just had to SMH.
I've been a reenactor here in Germany myself, for the medieval time periods, though. Loads of fun! :-) I also love to sew and make old costumes. I've been looking at especially 17th century clothing lately, thinking about attempting to make such a costume. However, I've noticed how lots of pieces of the garments in 17th and 18th century clothing are pinned together with straight pins, as you have done here for your working dress. Perhaps I'll rather opt to use hooks instead (no matter if that's historically accurate or not), because I'm worried about pricking myself with the pins if they slip halfway out of the fabric. Now, does that happen? Do the pins ever come loose, or do you sometimes lose them entirely, when moving about in these clothes a lot? In 17th century clothing, I've also seen the pins being pinned directly into the stays, to keep the gown, which is worn over them, in place. While stays are somewhat stiff, you can still bend in them a bit, and I'd imagine the pins would not stay in place properly then. What's your experience with this?
I volunteer in clothing like this. I sometimes pin my shortgown or jacket closed and often wear an apron with a bib that is pinned to my clothing. I have occasionally lost or bent pins. I've only rarely jabbed myself when one moved out of place. You learn to place the pins carefully.
Interesting! Thank you for the reply! :-) So it does actually happen, that the pins sometimes move, bend, fall out or prick you. I was really wondering, because I can't imagine them all staying in place, when someone, for exapmle, has to work really hard in their clothes, no matter how careful the pins might be placed (though I'm sure that helps). Now I imagine all the maids or farmers wives of old yelling: "Darn, it happened again!" throughout the day. XD
it helped when you were used to pinning your clothing. as a comparison, zippers can get stuck, and if they're on a jacket you have to feed them in and line them up properly -- a woman from the 18th century would probably struggle with zippered clothing, but we can handle them because we've been doing them from the age of 3 or 4. likewise, women were wearing long skirts and pinned jackets from the age of 3 or 4, so they were good at placement and didn't need to lift skirts to walk most of the time. it would be very uncommon to prick yourself with jacket pins, since you tucked the point in toward the stays, which were too thick to be jabbed through.
Women did have buttons on their clothing in the 1770s and before. It wasn’t necessarily related to economic status, but leaned more toward fashion and practicality.
Just adding my two cents as someone who sews: making buttonholes without a sewing machine is time consuming & hard! I don't blame them for just pinning to tying their clothes shut instead :)
In the Middle Ages you had what was called "the sumptuary laws" which defined who can wear what depending on your status and wealth. It was during this time that garments became more fitting to the body with the invention of the button/ buttonhole. Back then only royalty and nobility could use buttons and button holes and actually the number of buttons were a distinguished mark of your status well up to the early 18th century. However It was only in the middle ages and up to the renaissance that it was actually really enforced by law. Things started to shift and by the 18th century everyone had the same cut essentially, the only thing that would differentiate class would be the materials used in clothing as well as the embellishments. But Even a working class man/ woman could have a huge amount of buttons and button holes on their garments without repercussions. It did of course take more money and time. With women's clothing however even the Queen of France would pin close her bodice's to her stays for practicality, the stomacher would be pined as well sometimes. This was done as to not include buttons that disrupt the overall design of the gown. So pins weren't just used by one class. It depends on the garment. Like Redingotes were fastened with buttons at the front while a robe a la francaise might be pined close. Remember that even monarchs wore the same cut of chemise or undershirt as peasants. Theirs was cleaned with blueing dye to keep it white and was probably very well sewn with the best fabrics and lots of ruffles....more than the common man could afford.
I know too, a lot of womens clothes we ment to be worn during pregnancy too, and are unable to keep buying new clothes. So when it is pinned, you have the ability to grow without needing a new jacket.
I was diggin in my grandfathers barn and came across some antique clothing. He thinks its from the 1800s. How can I tell? There are a couple items hand sewn only. And more items with machine work done to them. There was a black leather boot with newspaper insoles and the bottom soles were nailed in place. An old long black leather wallet with a mirror inside. Not many buttons on the items. Do you think he might be correct in their age?
: Since the sleeves on this style of jacket are well-fitted, I use the string to keep my shift sleeve from getting bunched up. It works like a dream. I loop the string through my shift sleeve, hold the string in my hand and then put on the jacket. No bunches. Pro tip.
This is such an interesting video! Thank you for uploading it! I do have one question: How hot is it under all those layers? Does it get uncomfortable or are you pretty much used to it?
This is the site that I've ordered corset supplies from. corsetmaking.com/category/corset-coutil.html You can find coutil a little bit cheaper on Etsy.
They are usually called stays during the 1770s, so if you search for supplies to make stays you will get better results. There are a ton of resources out there to make your own, which is what we usually do. Each pair can take up to 60-70 hours to make by hand, but considerably less if you use a machine for sewing the boning channels. Try atthesignofthegoldenscissors.com to start. Keep in mind that historically, most people would have purchased a large portion of their wardrobe from professional tailors and seamstresses and actually not have made their own garments, especially something as complicated as stays.
Love this video. I am finally doing my first event on Saturday with a re-enactment group! I’m trying to figure out if I want to try to purchase stays or take the time and make them. My question is what materials are yours made of and I can’t tell in the video if they were half boned or fully boned?
If pinning clothes had to do with allowing for variations in figure due to pregnancy or whatever, wouldn't the jacket have had more overlap at the front when pinned to a slender/nonpregnant figure like yours? Or were there different jackets/stays for pregnancy?
You're thinking of today's synthetic fabrics. Back then, all materials were natural, and as such, were very breathable and cool. The layers helped to regulate your body temperature. It's a myth that uncovering your skin makes you cooler. The sun heats up all the blood in the veins under your exposed skin. When that blood goes back to the core, it heats your core up and makes you hotter. Natural fabrics that cover most of your skin is the best way to stay cool. There is a reason why desert people wear head to toe clothing.
I don't think that several layers of fabric is necessarily a good thing. Yes, loose, flow-y, natural clothing that covers your body absolutely keeps you cooler. But to have a shift, then a corset or stays, then a petticoat (or maybe several), then a kerchief and then a gown and hat? That many layers almost defeats the purpose. There's a reason why desert people wear a single layer of head-to-toe clothing.
Those garments back then were made from natural materials, like cotton or linen, which are very breathable. They actually "channel" your body heat out, and they protect somewhat from the outside heat (sun) as well. So even with lots of layers, oftentimes you don't feel much different in them, than you would in jeans and t-shirt. Think of the beduins in the desert, who wrap up in (often several) layers of long robes as well. It really wards off the heat. I used to do medieval reenactment, and I never felt too hot in my dresses, either (I wore ones made from cotton, wool or raw silk). :-)
To add to that, people didn't have air conditioning back then, so their bodies adjusted more naturally to the rise and fall of the temperature during the seasons. Today, we go from an air conditioned house to the the blazing heat of the summer sun and it's a huge contrast that our bodies can't easily adjust to.
Air con isn’t that common in the UK, not sure if we just adjusted to the temperature differences lol. It’s only in some big stores and businesses that can add it. We only felt we needed air con when had about 3 weeks of heatwave which probably was the temp it is during a normal US summer, 35 Celsius at the most, now it’s 23 Celsius, but back then global warming wasn’t happening like it is now.
Lol you had to carry a pocket in order to carry stuff 😂
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Conyshi EG They also used baskets, bags, and the like. The pocket would probably be used to keep your money and small stuff in. Like housekeys for instance.
Zoof Fooz they did have special attachments which were tied on with absorbing pads, but it wasn’t way as good as ours, of course. American Indian women had a special place where they would go and sit on a bucket, i think. they had absorbent moss (which was also used for their babies).
@Sarah Hamilfan I think all those layers is the only thing that would have prevented you from smelling ppl. Antiperspirant was only invented in the 1930s-40s.
panties, camisoles, slips, scarves, tights/hose/leggings, shorts. all of these are or can be used as modesty garments. this is even before one gets into cultural wear like head coverings, which are common to many religions and cultures and just as "21st century" as any of those other things.
I work as an interpretor in the same time period as she does (in canada though) and I can vouch for the fact that your body adjusts itself much better temperature wise than you would think. The clothes are uncomfortable for the first few days but that's it! After a while you actually start feeling uncomfortable not having a stay (or corset) on during the work day.. And sometimes we actually start feeling cold after we change out into modern clothing at the end of the day because of being so used to our interpretor uniforms
B B what would children or/and average women wear?
Cooper Vint the same thing! Most women in the 18th century did not “tight lace,” meaning they did not try to make their waists extremely tiny, as is so often portrayed. Some women did, of course, however that was usually limited to a small portion of the aristocracy. The average working woman would have worn the stays as shown in this video, which aren’t uncomfortable! Their main purpose, as I stated, was NOT to decrease the waist, but rather to support the bust and provide structure for the exterior garments. In essence, it is and 18th century bra!
@@superduper.cooper girls would just wear smaller versions of their mother's clothes, usually short gown and skirts but without a stay until they were ready for one. I'm not too sure about boys but it would be very simple and handmade. This video is actually a good example of the average woman's wear. This is a working woman, the higher up in class you go the more the fashion changes to gowns, and fabrics can show your social standing as well.
@@rcamels3042 And an 18th century back support. I found that I was less tired working at the Renaissance Festival all day on my feet if I wore my stays or "pair of bodies" as they were called then. I worked for a clothier and we wore her products but I'd really like to try to make more period bodies and outer-ware for the earlier 16th century.
@@MyBigComfyCouch Children wore dresses and skirts from infancy until the boys were "breeched" or reliably toilet trained. Once a boy didn't need to get quick access to a potty, then he could be allowed to wear breeches or "slops" like a man. Kid's clothing had a lot of pleats, tucks, long hems, wide seams, drawstrings and lacings so that it could be let out and let down as the child grew. Outgrown clothing was put away and passed on to younger children. Worn-out adult clothing would often be pulled apart and made over into children's clothing. Mom's old skirt could be turned into a kid's outfit. Dad's worn-out shirt could be cut down into aprons for the little girls. Fabric from worn clothing was set aside to be pieced into something else down the line until it was turned into rags, which were then used to make rag rugs or for cleaning, polishing or for stuffing or padding. Nothing was wasted this far out on the frontier.
It makes the argument from the show 1776 about needing pins make a lot more sense now :) thank you!
Lol I was totally thinking that too
Thanks so much! We homeschool and our activity books had paper dolls to show how people in colonial times dress, but I wanted my children to have a better understanding. You explained the process so well and we're so grateful how easy it is to get dressed in modern times
This just made research 100x easier for me. Thank you!!!
Gasp! No! You broke the golden rule: SHOES BEFORE CORSET. (but lols aside, educational, thank you).
She showed us her shemise oh my how scaldelous
@Sarah Hamilfan Thank you. That was bugging me! I try not to be petty but DANG people need to read or something! Today I saw Illinois spelled :Illinoise"....and just had to SMH.
When you're texting a naughty Amish girl who's not supposed to have Internet...
Him: Heey. Show me a pic of you in your underwear.
Her:
The nuns are quaking
What a delightful presentation
Great information, thank you for sharing! Hope to be up there this summer!
neolexington Thanks! Hope you're able to visit Colonial Michilimackinac for the tricentennial!
I liked the butterfly at the end :P Interesting how I randomly found this video - I'm planning to visit Mackinac with my family in July!
I've been a reenactor here in Germany myself, for the medieval time periods, though. Loads of fun! :-)
I also love to sew and make old costumes. I've been looking at especially 17th century clothing lately, thinking about attempting to make such a costume. However, I've noticed how lots of pieces of the garments in 17th and 18th century clothing are pinned together with straight pins, as you have done here for your working dress.
Perhaps I'll rather opt to use hooks instead (no matter if that's historically accurate or not), because I'm worried about pricking myself with the pins if they slip halfway out of the fabric. Now, does that happen? Do the pins ever come loose, or do you sometimes lose them entirely, when moving about in these clothes a lot?
In 17th century clothing, I've also seen the pins being pinned directly into the stays, to keep the gown, which is worn over them, in place. While stays are somewhat stiff, you can still bend in them a bit, and I'd imagine the pins would not stay in place properly then. What's your experience with this?
I volunteer in clothing like this. I sometimes pin my shortgown or jacket closed and often wear an apron with a bib that is pinned to my clothing. I have occasionally lost or bent pins. I've only rarely jabbed myself when one moved out of place. You learn to place the pins carefully.
Interesting! Thank you for the reply! :-) So it does actually happen, that the pins sometimes move, bend, fall out or prick you. I was really wondering, because I can't imagine them all staying in place, when someone, for exapmle, has to work really hard in their clothes, no matter how careful the pins might be placed (though I'm sure that helps). Now I imagine all the maids or farmers wives of old yelling: "Darn, it happened again!" throughout the day. XD
it helped when you were used to pinning your clothing. as a comparison, zippers can get stuck, and if they're on a jacket you have to feed them in and line them up properly -- a woman from the 18th century would probably struggle with zippered clothing, but we can handle them because we've been doing them from the age of 3 or 4. likewise, women were wearing long skirts and pinned jackets from the age of 3 or 4, so they were good at placement and didn't need to lift skirts to walk most of the time. it would be very uncommon to prick yourself with jacket pins, since you tucked the point in toward the stays, which were too thick to be jabbed through.
When did women start having buttons on their clothes. Did rich ladies have buttons. I just never knew about the straight pins
Women did have buttons on their clothing in the 1770s and before. It wasn’t necessarily related to economic status, but leaned more toward fashion and practicality.
Just adding my two cents as someone who sews: making buttonholes without a sewing machine is time consuming & hard! I don't blame them for just pinning to tying their clothes shut instead :)
Pinning is more adjustable than buttons.
In the Middle Ages you had what was called "the sumptuary laws" which defined who can wear what depending on your status and wealth. It was during this time that garments became more fitting to the body with the invention of the button/ buttonhole. Back then only royalty and nobility could use buttons and button holes and actually the number of buttons were a distinguished mark of your status well up to the early 18th century. However It was only in the middle ages and up to the renaissance that it was actually really enforced by law. Things started to shift and by the 18th century everyone had the same cut essentially, the only thing that would differentiate class would be the materials used in clothing as well as the embellishments. But Even a working class man/ woman could have a huge amount of buttons and button holes on their garments without repercussions. It did of course take more money and time. With women's clothing however even the Queen of France would pin close her bodice's to her stays for practicality, the stomacher would be pined as well sometimes. This was done as to not include buttons that disrupt the overall design of the gown. So pins weren't just used by one class. It depends on the garment. Like Redingotes were fastened with buttons at the front while a robe a la francaise might be pined close. Remember that even monarchs wore the same cut of chemise or undershirt as peasants. Theirs was cleaned with blueing dye to keep it white and was probably very well sewn with the best fabrics and lots of ruffles....more than the common man could afford.
I know too, a lot of womens clothes we ment to be worn during pregnancy too, and are unable to keep buying new clothes. So when it is pinned, you have the ability to grow without needing a new jacket.
Beautiful great video thanks God bless. 👍
I was diggin in my grandfathers barn and came across some antique clothing. He thinks its from the 1800s. How can I tell? There are a couple items hand sewn only. And more items with machine work done to them. There was a black leather boot with newspaper insoles and the bottom soles were nailed in place. An old long black leather wallet with a mirror inside. Not many buttons on the items. Do you think he might be correct in their age?
Man I miss working there. Worked from 95-2001
When you were putting the jacket on, what was the cord that came from the sleeve?
: Since the sleeves on this style of jacket are well-fitted, I use the string to keep my shift sleeve from getting bunched up. It works like a dream. I loop the string through my shift sleeve, hold the string in my hand and then put on the jacket. No bunches. Pro tip.
@@MackinacStateHistoricParks THATS AMAZING! I try stuff like holding the ends, but you can't do that with a 3/4 sleeve dress! great tip!
Thank you for this descriptive, yet accessible explanation for my students.
this was very helpful. thank you so much!
This is such an interesting video! Thank you for uploading it! I do have one question: How hot is it under all those layers? Does it get uncomfortable or are you pretty much used to it?
Lea Zoeph
Plenty of historical reanacters say it isn't to bad.Keep in mind all of this was made of natural fabrics thar breathed well.
This might sound like a dumb question, but do the re-enactors wear their regular undergarments when in costume?
Where can you get Colonial clothing like the corset ?
You can either find a pattern and sew one, if you sew. Otherwise, there are many places on the internet where you can order one.
do you have any web sites that we can use to order corsets? I find that trying to use the search is really frustrating trying to find anything.
This is the site that I've ordered corset supplies from.
corsetmaking.com/category/corset-coutil.html
You can find coutil a little bit cheaper on Etsy.
Thank you!
They are usually called stays during the 1770s, so if you search for supplies to make stays you will get better results. There are a ton of resources out there to make your own, which is what we usually do. Each pair can take up to 60-70 hours to make by hand, but considerably less if you use a machine for sewing the boning channels. Try atthesignofthegoldenscissors.com to start. Keep in mind that historically, most people would have purchased a large portion of their wardrobe from professional tailors and seamstresses and actually not have made their own garments, especially something as complicated as stays.
very beautiful clothes,thanks!
Where can I get patterns for these clothes? I can't find front laced stays.
awesome video thanks for sharing
I want to work there now! XD
What song is this?
Hi! I’m wondering what pattern was used for your jacket?
Love this video. I am finally doing my first event on Saturday with a re-enactment group! I’m trying to figure out if I want to try to purchase stays or take the time and make them. My question is what materials are yours made of and I can’t tell in the video if they were half boned or fully boned?
Do you know how to make the garters?
Where can I find a pattern for this outfit?
Where can you buy these clothes for a reasonable price?
Where can I find a pattern for the jacket? Thank you!
the background sounds like spongebob's i love it haha
Where did you get your shoes? I really like them and want a pair for myself.
There is also a website called fugawee.com Men's and women's shoes from the colonial era, to the civil war. They also have knee buckles and socks.
Where did she find her shoes!? I keep finding Italian it French shoes from that era... I want something for English or “American”
Try American Duchess. I know they have reproduction 19th century shoes but they might have earlier or later designs.
If pinning clothes had to do with allowing for variations in figure due to pregnancy or whatever, wouldn't the jacket have had more overlap at the front when pinned to a slender/nonpregnant figure like yours? Or were there different jackets/stays for pregnancy?
Mostly the jacket was just left open and the stays partially laced.
I think that's where stomacher's came in
My teacher always gives us these for school work I think there so interesting
I’m so into these silhouettes, I wish it was socially acceptable (but not required) to still dress like this.
Omg you look so beautiful!!!. 😍
I’m going to move to one of these.
Hello fellow Michiganders🙋♀️
She is very beautiful😍!!🔥
this is my dream job
Me too but I've noticed they want masters degrees for a lot of these places.
Looking at these traditional outfits I always wonder...How the heck did women breast-feed in these???
Some stays had laces in the front so they could be opened to nurse.
Katherine Broberg working women would untie their corset, at the front, rich women never breastfed. they hired wet nurses
I've seen pictures of stays that had flaps over the breasts, so they could just open those and not take off the whole garment.
I can see Mackinac Island and Mackinaw City from my front porch.
where is this at?
Jazmin Grimes Mackinac island in Michigan
She's at Colonial Fort Michilimackinac in Mackinaw City, Michigan. Another Mackinac State Historic Park, Fort Mackinaw, is on Mackinaw Island.
Wish to god we still dressed like this. We look ridiculous today🙄
I'm so glad we don't. All those layers in 80-90 degree heat? No thank you!
You're thinking of today's synthetic fabrics. Back then, all materials were natural, and as such, were very breathable and cool. The layers helped to regulate your body temperature. It's a myth that uncovering your skin makes you cooler. The sun heats up all the blood in the veins under your exposed skin. When that blood goes back to the core, it heats your core up and makes you hotter. Natural fabrics that cover most of your skin is the best way to stay cool. There is a reason why desert people wear head to toe clothing.
I don't think that several layers of fabric is necessarily a good thing. Yes, loose, flow-y, natural clothing that covers your body absolutely keeps you cooler. But to have a shift, then a corset or stays, then a petticoat (or maybe several), then a kerchief and then a gown and hat? That many layers almost defeats the purpose. There's a reason why desert people wear a single layer of head-to-toe clothing.
Fuck off and take your corset with you.
is it bad that I sorta agree
I wonder how women survived the summer with all those layers on?
Those garments back then were made from natural materials, like cotton or linen, which are very breathable. They actually "channel" your body heat out, and they protect somewhat from the outside heat (sun) as well. So even with lots of layers, oftentimes you don't feel much different in them, than you would in jeans and t-shirt. Think of the beduins in the desert, who wrap up in (often several) layers of long robes as well. It really wards off the heat.
I used to do medieval reenactment, and I never felt too hot in my dresses, either (I wore ones made from cotton, wool or raw silk). :-)
To add to that, people didn't have air conditioning back then, so their bodies adjusted more naturally to the rise and fall of the temperature during the seasons. Today, we go from an air conditioned house to the the blazing heat of the summer sun and it's a huge contrast that our bodies can't easily adjust to.
Europe and America went through a mini Ice Age at the time.
Air con isn’t that common in the UK, not sure if we just adjusted to the temperature differences lol. It’s only in some big stores and businesses that can add it.
We only felt we needed air con when had about 3 weeks of heatwave which probably was the temp it is during a normal US summer, 35 Celsius at the most, now it’s 23 Celsius, but back then global warming wasn’t happening like it is now.
They are actually really nice to wear I’m a reanater lol
Uuuugh I want to work there
Me too!
So cute
Only reason why I’m watching this is because I have to do my homework😐
the pockets are interesting lol
Never heard fischu pronounced that way--always heard it said as "fee-shoe" (long I/e sound)
She also did forgot the cushion that coes at her back, over the buttom, so the skirt appears fuller. She had it on the bed.
Bravo, tu est fort belle.
looks hot for summertime!
Straight pins. Gawd.
I wish we can dress like this, it’s beautiful. Clothes nowadays look like underwear.
Grace USA that's a bit of an overstatement
Lol you had to carry a pocket in order to carry stuff 😂
Conyshi EG They also used baskets, bags, and the like. The pocket would probably be used to keep your money and small stuff in. Like housekeys for instance.
That's nice. But what about women's period??? Flowed through the legs and dress???
Zoof Fooz they did have special attachments which were tied on with absorbing pads, but it wasn’t way as good as ours, of course. American Indian women had a special place where they would go and sit on a bucket, i think. they had absorbent moss (which was also used for their babies).
So this is what common women wore? Is there nothing with less layers? It just seems like a lot.
@Sarah Hamilfan I think all those layers is the only thing that would have prevented you from smelling ppl. Antiperspirant was only invented in the 1930s-40s.
Куча юбок еще и фартук сверху
LOL what do 21st women wear for modesty?
Clothes. We cover our bits in public and that's as modest as we need to be-- and that's absolutely okay, there's nothing wrong with it.
panties, camisoles, slips, scarves, tights/hose/leggings, shorts. all of these are or can be used as modesty garments. this is even before one gets into cultural wear like head coverings, which are common to many religions and cultures and just as "21st century" as any of those other things.
We have our own version of these things. Bras come to mind and undershirts to prevent over cleavage.
The tears of prudes everywhere! That’s what we wear. 😅
18th century England dress and Colonial America dress are pretty much the same.
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