Like others have said it will be interesting to see the results of testing the green OT. Also I have several of the black OT gen2's and they seem fine although I don't have any testing equipment to quantify anything.
It's easy enough to see where you are on the printer paper push cut. You can see exactly where the edge is a little more worn from how much the edges of the paper squish up along the cut.
@@knivesiguess Yes I do test with paper and all of my black OT's seem to do ok. Not the best though and some are better than others so there is defiantly a noticeable variance in sharpness across the 4 black OT knives that I have.
Thanks for doing this KIG... I'm still using my original dropout old orange, no issues. Yeah heat treatment varies greatly on these cheap knives. Knife selection at all 3 of my local WMs SUCKS OUTRIGHT... they never have anything. I have given up even trying to find an olive or black one.
Yeah the biggest issue with these knives is quality control and that’s where ur extra $10-$20 goes when buying from a reputable brand like gonzo/ firebird, sencut, petrified fish etc.
For the most part, yeah. There are a few outliers like the $10 Gordon flipper from Harbor Freight which seems to have good QC, the Duratech knives (bumped down steel grade) and the Creacent knives (also lower steel grade) that have all been good in my limited experience. At least everyone that's had those 3 agree that they're solid that I've had exchanges with
"it's got what plants can't refuse, ELECTROLYTES!" "It's got deep carry pocket clip... whiiich is the Lords carry" You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. This is why I subscribed.
I can’t wait to see the results on the green on, I have it and it’s been great for me. I also have a gen 1 that has the same weird warped blade otherwise it’s good too.
@@knivesiguess ah darn ok. That site refuses to go past the screen continue to payment. I tried ordering from her months ago too off her instagram and never got a reply then. Damn.
Oh boy do I think OT has decided a bait and switch on the D2 “ BM bug out killer “ I bought 3 to do farm and ranch beater use , and all three are terrible and with never hold a edge I hogged off about 10 sharpenings worth and went 220, 340 , 600 , 800 then stropped softly with 1 micron diamond, cutting paper easily, then all of them started falling on their face, I think they switched up the steel because D2 shouldn’t fail this easily, false hope or false advertising? But total junk , even my Chinese 440c blows this stuff out of the water Kinda POed @ Walmart
What really gets my goats by the testicles is how insanely the first 3 examples I bought before they broke the community performed. It took MAGNACUT to beat the edge retention I got from those 3 in my testing. All 3. And while replicating Outdoors55's testing on the absolute donkey he got mine absolutely annihilated his. He finally got to good steel after removing what I guesstimate is the same amount of steel I removed on this one. I don't know if it's bait and switch or their supplier couldn't properly heat treat the steel fast enough to meet the demand, or they got a new supplier and they're not providing good steel, it could be anything. I mean, the 3cr13 they use performs exactly like 3cr13 should perform.
Did your V2 ever have a super Sharp edge? My V2 has a screaming sharp edge just from a first stripping, but I haven't noticed any retention issues and but I also haven't tested it like that tho
@knivesiguess no I have orange V2 when they first launched the V2 and came back in stock after that several month break we had last year when they were being scalped
Gotcha. I haven't seen much feedback at all on the orange V2s, but I suspect they're heaps better than tha black ones. Weird thing to say, but all of the black ones seem to have the same QC issues and the green ones seem to all be better quality. Seems like they were made by different facilities or something.
@knivesiguess it's more likely that they're made in large batches, on the same equipment by the same operators, but they'll run a whole batch of like a thousand or something through and if you got one bad operator running that grinder w/o a error proofed process or a QC check to catch it during that batch, then that whole batch is bad
Whenever I can I get 1st release knives and got one of these. Usually that quality control is spot on for that. Glad I did. Got me a nice cheap good pocket knife.
No disrespect but these are $10 dollar knives you get what you pay for their not $30 or $50 knives I have a few of them my self but everyone has an opinion.
You aren't wrong. However after the insane performance of the first ones I got we needed to test the new ones out. You suffer greatly compromised QC on these in exchange for the low price point.
We need to start calling it "Technically D2" whatever the hell they're using. "Untreated D2". Cheap-as-hell D2. Chee2.
Something, man. Maybe D 0.2
Like others have said it will be interesting to see the results of testing the green OT. Also I have several of the black OT gen2's and they seem fine although I don't have any testing equipment to quantify anything.
It's easy enough to see where you are on the printer paper push cut. You can see exactly where the edge is a little more worn from how much the edges of the paper squish up along the cut.
@@knivesiguess Yes I do test with paper and all of my black OT's seem to do ok. Not the best though and some are better than others so there is defiantly a noticeable variance in sharpness across the 4 black OT knives that I have.
This one started off okay-ish, but got worse and worse the more I tried to sharpen it.
Thanks for doing this KIG... I'm still using my original dropout old orange, no issues. Yeah heat treatment varies greatly on these cheap knives. Knife selection at all 3 of my local WMs SUCKS OUTRIGHT... they never have anything. I have given up even trying to find an olive or black one.
Dude, all of the Walmarts around me have very limited selections as well. Annoying as sandpaper on a fresh hemorrhoid.
Starting to think WM pulled a fast one on their customers with these black handles.
Yeah, the unhelpful part is that most of the hype has died down so no one else is really putting the time into testing these new ones out very much.
According to the Opinel age chart that should be a carbon steel made between 86 & 2000
Nice
Thank you for your effort.👍🖖
Yeah the biggest issue with these knives is quality control and that’s where ur extra $10-$20 goes when buying from a reputable brand like gonzo/ firebird, sencut, petrified fish etc.
For the most part, yeah. There are a few outliers like the $10 Gordon flipper from Harbor Freight which seems to have good QC, the Duratech knives (bumped down steel grade) and the Creacent knives (also lower steel grade) that have all been good in my limited experience. At least everyone that's had those 3 agree that they're solid that I've had exchanges with
your content is more fun than a bottle of gasoline in the pocket!
Debatable
There was a guy at meijer arrested for having his shake and bake meth bottle out and shaking it in the store. Fun fact. 😂
That 0% surprises me.
"it's got what plants can't refuse, ELECTROLYTES!" "It's got deep carry pocket clip... whiiich is the Lords carry" You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. This is why I subscribed.
The kind words are always appreciated!
I dont get the plant reference
They can't refuse electrolytes
@@knivesiguess yea, i heard it the first time. Elaborate please
Idiocracy. Sit down and watch it
Thanks for the info. And all the laughs. I got lucky my orange gen 1 was pretty darn good.
Happy to share what I learn as I learn it. We still have the green one to test out too, so there's gonna be more coming for better or worse.
I can’t wait to see the results on the green on, I have it and it’s been great for me. I also have a gen 1 that has the same weird warped blade otherwise it’s good too.
Yeah, I HOPE the green one does better, this was overall an awful experience.
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How’d you get ahold of cutting lace? For the diamond compound.
It's in the video description
@@knivesiguess ah darn ok. That site refuses to go past the screen continue to payment. I tried ordering from her months ago too off her instagram and never got a reply then. Damn.
Oh boy do I think OT has decided a bait and switch on the D2 “ BM bug out killer “ I bought 3 to do farm and ranch beater use , and all three are terrible and with never hold a edge
I hogged off about 10 sharpenings worth and went 220, 340 , 600 , 800 then stropped softly with 1 micron diamond, cutting paper easily, then all of them started falling on their face,
I think they switched up the steel because D2 shouldn’t fail this easily, false hope or false advertising? But total junk , even my Chinese 440c blows this stuff out of the water
Kinda POed @ Walmart
What really gets my goats by the testicles is how insanely the first 3 examples I bought before they broke the community performed. It took MAGNACUT to beat the edge retention I got from those 3 in my testing. All 3. And while replicating Outdoors55's testing on the absolute donkey he got mine absolutely annihilated his. He finally got to good steel after removing what I guesstimate is the same amount of steel I removed on this one. I don't know if it's bait and switch or their supplier couldn't properly heat treat the steel fast enough to meet the demand, or they got a new supplier and they're not providing good steel, it could be anything. I mean, the 3cr13 they use performs exactly like 3cr13 should perform.
Did your V2 ever have a super Sharp edge? My V2 has a screaming sharp edge just from a first stripping, but I haven't noticed any retention issues and but I also haven't tested it like that tho
No. It never got sharp. This is notable however, the OD green ones consistently have better edges on them if you have that one
@knivesiguess no I have orange V2 when they first launched the V2 and came back in stock after that several month break we had last year when they were being scalped
Gotcha. I haven't seen much feedback at all on the orange V2s, but I suspect they're heaps better than tha black ones. Weird thing to say, but all of the black ones seem to have the same QC issues and the green ones seem to all be better quality. Seems like they were made by different facilities or something.
@knivesiguess it's more likely that they're made in large batches, on the same equipment by the same operators, but they'll run a whole batch of like a thousand or something through and if you got one bad operator running that grinder w/o a error proofed process or a QC check to catch it during that batch, then that whole batch is bad
Maybe? Either is equally possible, we're just spitballing guesses without someone that knows sharing with us.
More proof that more color makes knives better
FAILURE TO TACTICAL
could just be another miss, you get what you pay for. I just am glad the OT dropout introduced me to axes locks, won't carry anything else now! lol
Maybe the green one will do better? I dunno.
@@knivesiguess It's all up to the shoddy quality control I think.
100% awful QC.
I have a Gen 2 orange and it’s been great. It seems due to QC issues these knives are a total gamble.
An entire crapshoot, my dude
This ones’s for Jesus… don’t judge me
Whenever I can I get 1st release knives and got one of these. Usually that quality control is spot on for that. Glad I did. Got me a nice cheap good pocket knife.
Yeah, you should have gotten one of the good ones for sure
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@@knivesiguess try again
I would but you won't learn anything.
@@knivesiguess nothing for me to learn that you can teach me with your tip-up heathenism
See, there it is. That lack of willingness to learn will hold you back your whole life.
Garbage
If that garbage were also filled with about a gallon of spoiled yogurt mixed with crab chunks and left outside for a few days in Arizona mid-summer.
No disrespect but these are $10 dollar knives you get what you pay for their not $30 or $50 knives I have a few of them my self but everyone has an opinion.
You aren't wrong. However after the insane performance of the first ones I got we needed to test the new ones out. You suffer greatly compromised QC on these in exchange for the low price point.
@ your %100 right but at the end of the day it’s a $10 dollar knife and even expensive knife can fall also too.
If you haven't, you shoulda seen how awful the QSP Penguin did for me. Worse than slamming your testicles between 2 hardbound copies of War and Peace.
@ is the video on your channel?
Yup. Should be on the Cardboard Slayer Aftermath playlist, if not it was recent enough to be easy to find.